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  Classicstar

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OP  10/25/13 8:32:52 PM#21

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  Classicstar

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OP  10/25/13 8:34:47 PM#22

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  Siveria

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10/25/13 8:39:11 PM#23
Yeah then its performance is actually bad in a home pc due to poor ati drivers. Happens all the time. I prefer nvidia because while it is more expensive at least it will work without a hitch in everygame, unlike ati cards, where half the time they need special patches and drivers to work properly in games.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  Horusra

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10/25/13 8:40:35 PM#24
got my first Radeon with the 7970 and I will never buy another Radeon again...Nvidia over 8 years never caused me issues...I will pay extra for better software even if Radeon put up better hardware.
  Classicstar

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OP  10/25/13 8:48:48 PM#25


Originally posted by Siveria
Yeah then its performance is actually bad in a home pc due to poor ati drivers. Happens all the time. I prefer nvidia because while it is more expensive at least it will work without a hitch in everygame, unlike ati cards, where half the time they need special patches and drivers to work properly in games.

I dont know why you guys keep digging this old story up about ati drivers are bad that was years ago, its bit sad you nvidia guys need this to hide your guilt not buying a AMD for less money with superb performance but expensive nvidia with driver problems:P


If a card is cheap and perform well i buy it simple as that.

Its so funny how you nvidia fans seem to be nervous or threatend by this new release comming here telling AMD have bad drivers while you guys not have AMD for years.

So when some product is bad you you condem it for eternity lol.

Ive heared plenty of problems over many games with nvidia cards and drivers, seems not exclusive to AMD but offcorse you guys have perfect cards and drivers you don't these problems hey ist always someone else right?

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  Cromica

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10/25/13 8:51:42 PM#26
Stick with my 680GTX until the 800 series come out next year.
  Classicstar

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OP  10/25/13 8:55:54 PM#27


Originally posted by Horusra
got my first Radeon with the 7970 and I will never buy another Radeon again...Nvidia over 8 years never caused me issues...I will pay extra for better software even if Radeon put up better hardware.


Thats strange i have for years AMD and never have any problems how come?

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  Livnthedream

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10/25/13 9:03:02 PM#28
Originally posted by nerovipus32
You could buy a ps4 and a couple of games for that price.

Yeah, but the Ps4 does not play games at 4k resolution. :)

 

@op Even if Ati is a "better" card and Nvidia is the Apple of the video card world, its pretty hard to deny how much more popular it is. For example: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Which breaks down to

35.94% Nvidia
33.89% other
18.62% Ati
11.55% Intel
 

Ati would need to make up an awful lot of that "other" category to come close to Nvidia.

http://chroniclesofthenerds.com/nerdfight/

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  sheller

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10/25/13 9:04:26 PM#29
Quit trying to make Nvidia buyers have remorse over their purchases.  As it so happens I like my 780 and it does everything I want it to, it also has a very reliable warranty package.  
  Cleffy

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10/25/13 9:18:04 PM#30

Here is a very simple fact. ALL REFERENCE COOLERS FROM NVIDIA AND AMD SUCK! Seriously docking it on its reference cooler is not really a valid argument.

I personally am going to wait for a die shrink. They really don't have anymore headroom they can pack into this process node on the same architecture without making the die bigger, hotter, and more hungry. I really like my cards to be cool and consume less energy since I have seen what it can do after the HD3870.

Also I am not getting it because their naming convention is ridiculous. AMD Radeon R9 290X? Its just too much. I would have preferred HD10970.

 

((BTW the other category is mostly AMD))

  Livnthedream

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10/25/13 9:26:26 PM#31
Originally posted by Cleffy

((BTW the other category is mostly AMD))

Considering that they count mobile platforms and how many computer manufacturers are partnered with Nvidia, I find that hard to believe. Got a source?

http://chroniclesofthenerds.com/nerdfight/

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  karmath

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10/25/13 9:39:21 PM#32
While I currently own a ATI card, this isnt the second coming of jesus. Its a great card at a good price point. If partners come up with a better cooling system and drop the price into a medium level on par with a 660 or 7950, then we will see some shit hit the fan.
  Ridelynn

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10/25/13 9:40:47 PM#33

I have been itching to get a new card for a lil bit now.

I certainly don't really need one. I have a 6970. I pre-ordered it back in 2010,and received it in Dec 2010, based almost exclusively on what I had researched about PowerTune. I have an aftermarket water jacket on it, so the video card in and of itself is silent. It overclocks well enough, although I don't maintain an OC on it and pretty much only crank it up for testing and benchmarking various games.

I should say, I have been extremely happy with my 6970.

I have dual monitors, but realistically I only play on one - a 1920x1200 screen. I have found some titles that I can't "MAXMAX" out, but none where I haven't been able to play with more than reasonable frame rates with more than reasonable options turned on.

So I definitely don't need a new card. I just ~want~ one, for absolutely no rational reason.

Right now, looking at everything on the table. I was moderately interested in triple-screen gaming, but the bezels kept me from jumping on board. 4K will probably be my next big investment, once they get down in the <$800 range for 24-30" screen. The fact that the 290X looks good at 4K is very appealing, but honestly, once the monitors get down to the price point I need, we're going to be looking at another generation (or two) of video cards as well.

I will be honest, streaming to Shield does have my attention, but not enough to make me go out and buy a Shield though.... and if SteamOS can do this well, I'll be all ears. G-Sync does have my attention, tearing isn't as bad as it used to be with LCD monitors and game engines, but it's still very distracting when it occurs. G-Sync will be one of those "seeing is believing" technologies though.

Boost 2.0 and the new PowerTune are essentially tied. Boost looks to perform a bit more aggressively, but PowerTune looks to be a bit more robust. AMD has had better multimonitor support for a while now, but it isn't something I'm seriously considering any longer.

Heat and noise are big concerns, but those are largely functions of the cooling solution. I don't have to water cool, but I have the ability to go up to that level of cooling if I wanted to. Comparing reference coolers is like trying to predict a NASCAR race based on how cars perform out of the dealership. The TDP (the real TDP, not the marketing jazz) is all that really matters - the rest is just a function of cooling.

PhysX, CUDA, Mantle, and TruAudio aren't really considerations; they seem more like marketing buzz than anything.

Soooo.... all of that said. I'm not necessarily waiting on a die shrink, but it does look like I am waiting a lil while longer; not necessarily for anything GPU related, but for 4K monitor prices to come down, and then I'll see what GPUs are out there and where the price war all breaks down.

  Ridelynn

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10/25/13 10:36:34 PM#34


Originally posted by Livnthedream

Originally posted by nerovipus32 You could buy a ps4 and a couple of games for that price.
Yeah, but the Ps4 does not play games at 4k resolution. :)

 

@op Even if Ati is a "better" card and Nvidia is the Apple of the video card world, its pretty hard to deny how much more popular it is. For example: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Which breaks down to

35.94% Nvidia33.89% other18.62% Ati11.55% Intel 

Ati would need to make up an awful lot of that "other" category to come close to Nvidia.



Now this is funny.

Not that I'm pro nVidia or AMD, but I go to that URL, and I see:

PC Video card usage by mfg
APRIL 2012 - SEPTEMBER 2013
nVidia 51.98%
Intel 14.98%
AMD/ATI 32.66%
Other 0.38%

Copy and pasted the numbers to make sure I didn't transpose them incorrectly...

I have no idea where the other set of numbers came from, unless your including OSX/Linux stats as well (and I would be surprised if there are enough of both of those combined to skew the Windows numbers).

Also, just a rumor, but good chance your wrong about the PS4 as well - although I'd be the first to admit it wouldn't matter, because it won't have the horsepower to really drive it and developers won't push it (much like so few push 1080p now on the PS3).

  User Deleted
10/25/13 10:44:38 PM#35
Originally posted by vission
You could have at least tried to proofread your post before submitting it.  It's just a chore to read otherwise.  Mine may not be perfect but they are at least easy to understand.  Also, don't make additional posts covering the same thing.  

He's not a native English speaker, so....back off.

However, you are right about one thing: your post is far from perfect.

  Livnthedream

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10/25/13 10:55:03 PM#36
Originally posted by Ridelynn


Now this is funny.

Not that I'm pro nVidia or AMD, but I go to that URL, and I see:

PC Video card usage by mfg
APRIL 2012 - SEPTEMBER 2013
nVidia 51.98%
Intel 14.98%
AMD/ATI 32.66%
Other 0.38%

Copy and pasted the numbers to make sure I didn't transpose them incorrectly...

I have no idea where the other set of numbers came from, unless your including OSX/Linux stats as well (and I would be surprised if there are enough of both of those combined to skew the Windows numbers).

Also, just a rumor, but good chance your wrong about the PS4 as well - although I'd be the first to admit it wouldn't matter, because it won't have the horsepower to really drive it and developers won't push it (much like so few push 1080p now on the PS3).

I did not even see the window for usage, I was going off from the breakdown of video card description.

 

Also, while I do not doubt that it will be able to push pre rendered stuff to 4k, actually playing the game at decent fps at that resolution is gonna be non existant. Its having issues hitting 60fps with many of its games as is.

You link is a 404 btw.

http://chroniclesofthenerds.com/nerdfight/

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  Reehay

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10/25/13 11:11:04 PM#37
fuck everyones christmas presents.. fuck my car payments. im getting a 290X ASAP
  khameleon

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10/25/13 11:12:02 PM#38

My GTX 670 plays every game out on MAX settings at high FPS still(ive had it almost 2 years now and got it at $300-350), no need to waste money on something newer that has no use for now.

So I will use the $500 to get a PS4 for now and enjoy the best of both worlds. Have a gaming PC that plays it all and a new console to play with.

When my current PC is ready for an upgrade this AMD card or the next Nvidia card that is as good or btter will be at $400-350 or so and I will buy that and build another PC probably.

NEVER buy cards when they come out new and are the top notch thing, wait a while because usually you don't need the power and can save money and put it to better use. 

Now, if you are rich, you can buy everything, but that's my advice to the other 99.9% of the world.

  Reehay

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10/25/13 11:13:35 PM#39
Originally posted by vission
You could have at least tried to proofread your post before submitting it.  It's just a chore to read otherwise.  Mine may not be perfect but they are at least easy to understand.  Also, don't make additional posts covering the same thing.  

ya well you misspelled "vision".

tiresome grammar nuns

  Ridelynn

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10/25/13 11:37:18 PM#40


Originally posted by Livnthedream
You link is a 404 btw.

Should be fixed in the original post - the stupid forum software totally mangled it and added a bunch of junk, took me 4 edits to get it to finally work right.

http://www.cnet.com.au/ps4-to-support-4k-playback-339341262.htm

Just a reference though to back up what I said, and still nothing more than a rumor.

I also found this source:
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/consoles/sony-confirms-4k-video-output-on-ps4-but-not-for-games-1132919

Basically says what you and I say though - the PS4 can output to 4K, but you aren't going to be playing games at 4K.

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