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  psychosiszz

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OP  10/24/13 5:16:00 AM#1

The developer hasn't made one decent game in these history.

See list: http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

So many bads, I cant see how this game could possibly be any good. Not sure what games workshop were thinking.

  moguy2

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Wish I had something positive to say =(

10/24/13 5:17:17 AM#2
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  Amjoco

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10/24/13 5:18:16 AM#3
Why must every discussion have one of these predictions in it? Why isn't there one on why it won't fail? 

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  moguy2

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Wish I had something positive to say =(

10/24/13 5:20:17 AM#4
The release is like 2 years away. People are already making character names, drawing nifty pictures, and calling their friends and telling them about their exciting wittle shootem up game. But my point being is that in 2 years time they will gather enough underwear tugging folks to make the release a success. I think you are gonna be wrong on this one.
  psychosiszz

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OP  10/24/13 5:20:40 AM#5
Originally posted by Amjoco
Why must every discussion have one of these predictions in it? Why isn't there one on why it won't fail? 

I know its sad. I love 40k but we have to live by these wise words "hope is the first step on the road to disappointment".

But come on, when a developer hasnt made a single good game its not all that encouraging.

  xeniar

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10/24/13 5:20:55 AM#6
Originally posted by Amjoco
Why must every discussion have one of these predictions in it? Why isn't there one on why it won't fail? 

It's a cool thing to do cant you see that?

hurray for the OP........

  Scalpless

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10/24/13 5:26:33 AM#7
If I remember correctly, both Wet and Dante's Inferno got some praise and were at least decent.
  apocoluster

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10/24/13 5:32:39 AM#8
Originally posted by psychosiszz
Originally posted by Amjoco
Why must every discussion have one of these predictions in it? Why isn't there one on why it won't fail? 

I know its sad. I love 40k but we have to live by these wise words "hope is the first step on the road to disappointment".

But come on, when a developer hasnt made a single good game its not all that encouraging.

I thought Wet was

pretty awesome. Best sexiest only max Payne clone I've ever played

 

i know this fact has noting to do with nothing. Burin defending one of my top ten favorite

games of all time.  =)

No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin

  Grotar89

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10/24/13 6:48:50 AM#9
Originally posted by psychosiszz

The developer hasn't made one decent game in these history.

See list: http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

So many bads, I cant see how this game could possibly be any good. Not sure what games workshop were thinking.

Most of the devs came to behaviour especially for this project they werent responsible for earlier games. Think Miguel and most of the team worked on TSW.

Anyway their communication with community and passion is definitely promising. So far looks like they have rly good idea of how 40K game should look and play, unlike the monstrosity that THQ/Vigil were making.

  grigdusher

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10/24/13 6:55:58 AM#10
Originally posted by psychosiszz

The developer hasn't made one decent game in these history.

See list: http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

So many bads, I cant see how this game could possibly be any good. Not sure what games workshop were thinking.

the dev have made age of conan and the secret world.

 

read this from an intewiev.

Everyeye: To begin with, how did an independent study on how to obtain your license from Games Workshop Warhammer 40,000, especially considering the fact that, until last April, was the only licensee THQ? 

Miguel Caron: We managed to get the license due to a succession of several events. Games Workshop in the past she used to sell or "rent" the full license of Warhammer 40,000 (which includes not only the sixteen playable races of the boardgame, but also the eight specialist games and dozens of novels published by Black Library, author's note), as they did with THQ. Given the dearth of titles published during the last period of the license, the agreement with THQ has not proved optimal for Games Workshop. 
You must understand that Games Workshop does not lavish licenses only to have an economic return, their goal is that the games are made and that the fans are happy to play with it. With these premises, sign a contract like that for them provides for the creation of many games, but if I'm not mistaken, THQ has managed to make only a few (ie the IP Dawn of War (RTS) and Space Marine (TPS), author's note) . They could have done much more, but given the shaky financial situation, have been forced to cancel some titles. 
Archived experience with THQ, Games Workshop has started to implement a new licensing strategy, which consists of breaking the license, entrusting the individual elements of the diverse studies that cater to them on the basis of the proposed projects, what they like the license, which characters are fans, etc. .. With this new method, a study could develop a game dedicated exclusively to the Orks, or one that takes place entirely aboard a single spacecraft (recent example is Space Hulk Full Control, author's note), and so on. 
I mean, Games Workshop has decided to split the Warhammer 40,000 license and distribute rights on the basis of what they want to make developers, also taking into account factors such as the type of platform on which we will publish the game, such as game visuals will be used. .. what kind of gameplay will it have? It will be top-down? A FPS? Finally, take into account the platforms on which the game will be available, if it is a title for consoles, tablet or PC game. 
With this new vision, Games Workshop has recently signed many more agreements, some with smaller studies. 
When the company announced for the first time these new licensing options, I was working on the concept of the game, with what would become our core team, for Funcom. One of the reasons I left Funcom was just to continue the work on that project: the company did not want to continue the production of the game of Warhammer 40,000, and so, with their permission, I left the studio bringing with me the work done so far, direction Behaviour . 
I received offers from 3 different studies for the IP of Eternal Crusade, but I chose Behaviour because they had twenty years of experience and I really liked their financial discipline, the way they managed their projects. Another point in favor of Behaviour is found in Quebec, were one of the first studios to open venues in this area and I already knew most administrators. 
All of these things led me to bring the IP to Behaviour. Games Workshop wanted to know the leaders of the study, which I presented to them at the last GDC. After this meeting I, the core team and Behaviour we finally received the blessing for the signing of the contract on Friday before this year's E3. 

  Sagasaint

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I don't always play MMOs, but when I do, I play sandboxes

10/24/13 3:17:46 PM#11
Originally posted by psychosiszz

The developer hasn't made one decent game in these history.

See list: http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

So many bads, I cant see how this game could possibly be any good. Not sure what games workshop were thinking.

they hired a whole new team of MMO-veteran developers just for this title. Miguel mentioned people working on Age of COnan and TSW, but also said that being in Montreal they had access to tons of experienced developers who had been hit by recent layoffs in different companies.

 

of course that doesnt instantly mean the game will come out good or bad, but at least disproves your initial argument

  DamonVile

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10/24/13 3:59:40 PM#12

So OP doesn't know anything about the dev team or who they are. He just looked at a list of games he's probably never heard of and said ...nope fail.

To me this thread is nothing more than a troll thread. They really need to stop letting these things stay up on the forums.

People are like cats. When they die, you get a new one.

  psychosiszz

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OP  10/25/13 5:29:17 AM#13
Originally posted by Sagasaint
Originally posted by psychosiszz

The developer hasn't made one decent game in these history.

See list: http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

So many bads, I cant see how this game could possibly be any good. Not sure what games workshop were thinking.

they hired a whole new team of MMO-veteran developers just for this title. Miguel mentioned people working on Age of COnan and TSW, but also said that being in Montreal they had access to tons of experienced developers who had been hit by recent layoffs in different companies.

 

of course that doesnt instantly mean the game will come out good or bad, but at least disproves your initial argument

Age of Conan was a bad game. TSW is a PVE game. Not that promising.

 

Originally posted by DamonVile

So OP doesn't know anything about the dev team or who they are. He just looked at a list of games he's probably never heard of and said ...nope fail.

To me this thread is nothing more than a troll thread. They really need to stop letting these things stay up on the forums.

Well I do now. Devs from age of conan and TSW LOL!!!!

  Savij

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10/25/13 8:27:38 AM#14

haters gonna hate

the devs are going the right way, working together with thair customers

and they are true fans to the wh40k IP

 

but i can understand if you think like this cause...see first 3 words

be always up to date about Eternal Crusade
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  Nonderyon

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10/26/13 2:23:59 AM#15

i just lol'd when see the topic title and always do when see "fortune tellings" and predictions, what game going to fail and what not.

The final judge is us the players when we take a hand on the actual game(not the Betas!!!!).

Stating that a game going to fail because of the developer or even publisher is just soo wrong, is equalent saying a painter going to fail before see his/her painting, or saying that musician is going to fail before hearing the violin solo...etc.

So yeah, i love this, a mon-keigh try to be a farseer.

  Instigator-Jones

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10/26/13 3:08:27 AM#16
"Why this thread fails" ... There FTFY
  Wroniec

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10/26/13 3:13:21 AM#17

Bioware made some good games and failed at SWTOR ... 

My point is even if we had some hard info on the topic like : budget, approach,  gameplay , depth of the game,..

We just can’t tell what will happen ... and your opinion is based on one page of games they made ?

  DamonVile

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10/26/13 6:36:44 AM#18
Originally posted by psychosiszz


Originally posted by DamonVile

So OP doesn't know anything about the dev team or who they are. He just looked at a list of games he's probably never heard of and said ...nope fail.

To me this thread is nothing more than a troll thread. They really need to stop letting these things stay up on the forums.

Well I do now. Devs from age of conan and TSW LOL!!!!

You mean 2 of the very few mmos in the last 10 years that didn't try and copy wow and actually had some originality to them ? Yeah that's not very promising at all.

People are like cats. When they die, you get a new one.

  A.Blackloch

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10/26/13 6:50:29 AM#19
Originally posted by psychosiszz

The developer hasn't made one decent game in these history.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Let's hope the dev team has such flawless logic as OP and they quit the development before it's too late... 

  Agent_Joseph

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10/26/13 6:57:26 AM#20
Originally posted by Amjoco
Why must every discussion have one of these predictions in it? Why isn't there one on why it won't fail? 

OP following new trend in mmo's discussions ... it is ok

For us,war 40k fan's that game ll be great what ever they make at end.

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

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