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  deakon

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10/22/13 11:30:26 AM#41
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by deakon

 even gw2 and swtor didn't have 3m beta sign ups,

GW2 had 1 million signups during a 48 hour signup period

http://www.vg247.com/2012/02/25/one-million-people-sign-up-for-guild-wars-2-beta/

ANET didnt have an extended beta signup beyond that  (unless you prepaid) so its hard to compare

 

I wasn't trying to compare just pointing out that 3m beta sign ups is far from "normal" like ender4 was trying to make it out to be

  SavageHorizon

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10/22/13 11:31:05 AM#42
Originally posted by Ender4

 


The last time we saw something like this was with WOW and battle.net fans never having played a MMO before but ended up playing WOW.

 

I'd be surprised if there are a ton of skyrim fans that have never played an MMO before. This is extremely different. This is more like SWTOR being popular because of the IP or GW2 because they had the established GW1 players.

I haven't seen much to interest me in ESO but the monthly fee is certainly going to get in the way of me trying it out.

As for Beta signups, 3M is a pretty normal number. Rift had over 3M. AOC had over a million and that was 6 years ago.

Lol, where do you get your numbers from, totally fabricated numbers.

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  bcbully

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10/22/13 11:31:27 AM#43
I think they will sell 5-8 million right off the bat, no questions asked.
  goldtoof

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10/22/13 12:40:04 PM#44
Lol and then you will hear all the "i told you so"s from the doom brigade when it drops 1m down to 7m after a month
  lizardbones

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10/22/13 1:56:26 PM#45


Originally posted by goldtoof
Lol and then you will hear all the "i told you so"s from the doom brigade when it drops 1m down to 7m after a month


True. I'm sure $480M dollars at launch and the $105M earned every month by the developer would go a long way towards making them feel better about their failure.

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  IridescentOrk

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10/22/13 9:58:39 PM#46
millions indeed; wait 6 months after release, get the box cheaper, play for 30 days and trash, and move to next MMO; then comeback when it turns F2P

gameplay > graphics

  djazzy

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10/22/13 10:08:55 PM#47

Is The elder scrolls a bigger IP than Star Wars?

I think it will be comparable to what SWTOR did in initial sales.

  Teala

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10/22/13 10:12:25 PM#48
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

 I dont see them selling 10 million copies anytime soon... 

 

But you had no problem predicting that ArenaNet would sell more copies of GW2 than Blizzard's WOW, right lol.

Think you are underestimating the pull of the IP and it's followers. The last time we saw something like this was with WOW and battle.net fans never having played a MMO before but ended up playing WOW.

Like the game or not, TESO will IMO be the first western MMO that get's close to the numbers of WOW.

And unlike your other GW2 prediction, sub based mmo didn't die with the release of GW2. Many players have no problem paying a sub for a decent MMO. The pull of the IP will have people paying a sub without even thinking about it.

 

Post like this always make me LMFAO!

  doodphace

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10/22/13 10:14:11 PM#49
Originally posted by tasburath
Originally posted by SavageHorizon

Like the game or not, TESO will IMO be the first western MMO that get's close to the numbers of WOW.

 

WoW would not reach WoW numbers if it was released today. 

People seem to forget that there were less than a handful of MMOs when WoW was released.  The only real competitor to WoW was EverQuest 2.  EQ2's graphics engine was so horribly bad and required such high end hardware to run decently, it never stood a chance.

The market is so saturated with MMOs now that it will be nearly impossible to replicate WoW's success, short of paying people to play the game.

I know a few people that have played the TESO beta.  If what they are telling me is true, there will be a lot of disappointed people.

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Heck, there arn't even that many AAA MMOs TODAY that are less than a few years old.....

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  ThomasN7

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10/22/13 10:23:41 PM#50
A million copies sold  perhaps. The Old Republic I believe mustered up about a million and Star Wars is more popular than Elder Scrolls. 
  doodphace

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10/22/13 10:33:34 PM#51
Originally posted by ThomasN7
A million copies sold  perhaps. The Old Republic I believe mustered up about a million and Star Wars is more popular than Elder Scrolls. 

SWTOR did over 2 million sales, then stablized at 500k subs. I see TESO doing similier.

  Homitu

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10/22/13 11:03:46 PM#52

I guess I'll just copy/paste the same answer I gave last month...

Originally posted by Homitu

Most new big name MMOs with big IPs that have come out over the last few years - like SWTOR, GW2, FFXIV - effortlessly generated 1-2 million buyers based on pre-release interest alone.  Whether the numbers go up or down from there depends on how good the game actually turns out to be.  

TES has a similarly successful IP, so I'd expect the numbers to be somewhere in the same realm.  One thing that favors the game is that I think there's a fair bit of overlap between TES players and MMO gamers.  We all know how well Skyrim did.  Now certainly, all 10 million Skyrim players aren't also MMO gamers; and even some portion of those who are won't necessarily play the game.  Then, of course, there are also MMO gamers who haven't ever played any TES games who will pick up the game to check it out.  All of this factored in, I expect the game to sell somewhere in the GW2 3-4 million range after one year.  After just one month, I'll broadly guess between 1.5 and 2.5 million.  

It's also worth nothing that console availability broadens accessibility to the game, which will undoubtedly increase sales to some extent.

I personally haven't followed the game much since it was announced though, so I'm not factoring in how the game actually looks, which of course completely dictates player retention and growth after release. 

 

  ElRenmazuo

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10/22/13 11:07:39 PM#53
Originally posted by goldtoof
I would have thought not being able to play it on their xbox would be a bigger factor.

Its going to be on xbox one and PS4

  Iselin

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10/22/13 11:21:03 PM#54
Originally posted by djazzy

Is The elder scrolls a bigger IP than Star Wars?

I think it will be comparable to what SWTOR did in initial sales.

Bigger than KOTOR? Yeah by a huge amount. The big IP there was the Star Wars movies, not KOTOR. By your logic LOTRO and Star Trek should have also been huge MMO hits... they weren't. Those were attempts to spin-off popular IPs into MMOs by 3rd parties who didn't even have anything to do with the IP previously.

This IP is an CRPG IP being developed by a branch of the same people who own the IP.

The biggest MMOs have all been based on existing computer games (UO, WOW) or good original computer game ideas (EQ, EVE.) And all were developed by the IP creators.

 

Anyway... we'll see in about 6 months won't we?

 

  Iselin

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10/22/13 11:28:05 PM#55
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

 I dont see them selling 10 million copies anytime soon... 

 

But you had no problem predicting that ArenaNet would sell more copies of GW2 than Blizzard's WOW, right lol.

Think you are underestimating the pull of the IP and it's followers. The last time we saw something like this was with WOW and battle.net fans never having played a MMO before but ended up playing WOW.

Like the game or not, TESO will IMO be the first western MMO that get's close to the numbers of WOW.

And unlike your other GW2 prediction, sub based mmo didn't die with the release of GW2. Many players have no problem paying a sub for a decent MMO. The pull of the IP will have people paying a sub without even thinking about it.

 

Post like this always make me LMFAO!

So do most of your posts: all big sig bling and little to no substance.

  DAS1337

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10/22/13 11:31:37 PM#56

I am not big on predicting these sorts of things, but I would imagine that TESO will be incredibly sought after initially.  It will be releasing on three systems nearly simultaneously. 

 

They will get their money's worth.  That's for sure.

  DAS1337

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10/22/13 11:32:38 PM#57
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by ThomasN7
A million copies sold  perhaps. The Old Republic I believe mustered up about a million and Star Wars is more popular than Elder Scrolls. 

SWTOR did over 2 million sales, then stablized at 500k subs. I see TESO doing similier.

Was SWTOR also released on XBOX and Playstation as well?

 

You have to factor that in.

  muffins89

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10/22/13 11:34:49 PM#58
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by ThomasN7
A million copies sold  perhaps. The Old Republic I believe mustered up about a million and Star Wars is more popular than Elder Scrolls. 

SWTOR did over 2 million sales, then stablized at 500k subs. I see TESO doing similier.

yeah but swtor was just pc.  I can see 2mil pc sales and 1mil for each console.  that's 4m at launch.  which isn't anything to scoff at.  but of course many will call it a failure because it won't have 100% player retention.

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  TheCrow2k

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10/22/13 11:38:27 PM#59
Originally posted by goldtoof
I would have thought not being able to play it on their xbox would be a bigger factor.

 

^QFT. While I am not a console gamer I am an Elder Scrolls fan, but a fan of their single player stories so the MMO holds no interest for me.
  Arglebargle

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10/23/13 12:51:59 AM#60
I do think they should focus on the Console versions of ESO.  Less competition in the install base, and less exposure to MMOs. 

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