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  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

10/19/13 3:01:03 PM#21

Sadly none,developers are moving in the wrong direction,i see no bright star in the horizon.

EQ:Next is doing a few things that are nice but in the end it will be a lot of the same old ,missing some key elements that would make a great MMORPG.

SOE in all of their games tend to follow a set pattern,they make the design so it is easy to follow up with content.Example is tiers of crafting,every tier is basically identical to the last.How about tiers in spells, again instead of creating NEW they tend to rehash old and just make them higher tiers.Even WOW does this with armour,just make the next armour a higher tier.

None are showing the ability to think and make things more realistic which is quite possible,even inside of Fantasy gaming.

I have yet to see a game besides FFXI's Besieged create scenarios where players come together to take on large scale foes and keep them from taking over valuable resources or capturing prisoners.FFXI is an extremely limited game,it is bound by the PS2 ,however that does not mean OTHER developers can't learn from it and go much further in the design.We saw a weak example in Rifts,too small and no real purpose,just spawning nodes that happen the same every time and in the same places.Rifts were more like FFXI Campaigns,go figure again it is FFXI doing the creating while other games are stagnant.

Even yet again FFXI has created a system where players can play the mobs in the game and level up as those mobs,why is it only one game doing all the creating of content while other devs are sitting on such weak efforts?

Really sad that FFXI came out 10 years ago on the PS2 and still rules the roost for content creation.

Somewhere a developer needs to step up, i had hoped it was Jake Song but AA will again be pretty much the same old gaming as all the rest with little much to the imagination.Just like EQNext there will be a few ideas in Archeage example the hand gliding is cool and open housing is a new idea and physics but still we will be running from NPC marker to NPC marker doing meaningless tasks or pvp'ing.

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  xanthmetis

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10/19/13 3:05:00 PM#22

1. EQN: by far this is the one I am looking forward to most.  Just awaiting the information on pvp. 

2.  Bless:  Looks interesting and highly pvp focused; korean scares me a bit.

3.  ESO:  I wish this was completely OWPVP and any race good go to any land at anytime.  I am interested to see how their ava turns out and hopefully it wont be a zerg fest.  I prefer small sized battles that require skill, so this game is still on my maybe list.

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  xanthmetis

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10/19/13 3:08:12 PM#23
4. World of Darkness: Is this game even being still produced?  I think the pvp and controlling things would make for an interesting setup.

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  Galadourn

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10/19/13 3:10:52 PM#24

Everquest Next without any second thoughts.

This looks like the much anticipated mould breaker that will lead MMOs in a new direction. Hopefully at least.

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  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

10/19/13 3:12:39 PM#25
Originally posted by Ender4

My hopes fall on EQ Next and Star Citizen. The rest of what I see seems to be more of what is already out there which doesn't interest me at all.

I beleive EQNext has potential but would not cross my fingers.I have been supporting SOE for many years and have a very good picture of how they do business.

SOE does create decent or good games but they show a lack of effort or do not care about much after the game is released.Example is bugs,they really do a horrible job in quality control but are utilizing more resources to making sure the next item for cash shop is ready to go.

I have always been happy with SOE's GM/support work imo the best there is and is probably their strongest point as a business.Aside from their rushed coding mistakes they lack the ability to think outside the box,it is like the same guy is making all the decisions ,so there is no new blood to creative thinking.

If you look at Next what are they doing for creative thinking?Well the emotes or automated jumps and slides are nice they are not content,they are features.A Minecraft simulation is again a feature not a creative content idea.Player made content will be restricted but is at least as minimal creative idea but again not SOE's.See the problem,SOE is the one lacking in creative content ideas,they are good at delivering features,usually have a nice looking game but are simply not very creative.

Yo ucan even look further int othe combat structure,is limiting a player to 4 choices really being creative?Ok add in another 4 from another class ,again is that creative content or just a limiting feature?SOE lacks the ability to bring all those features together and create something unique in game play,instead  my gut tells me they will deliver features but game play will be the same old.

Bottom line is 15 years of the same old gets real boring,we need a developer that can be creative in it's features AND content and bring it all together oh and all the while giving us some nice visuals,effects,graphics.

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  immodium

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Joined: 11/03/07
Posts: 1280

10/19/13 3:14:43 PM#26

A few have caught my eye.

Elder Scrolls Online, Wildstar, EQN, Camelot Unchained, The Re-Population and The Division.

  BadOrb

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Joined: 1/11/13
Posts: 739

10/19/13 3:19:26 PM#27

Destiny , the division( R.I.P. Tom Clancy ) and PSO2 ( if they ever release our version for gods sake! )

Cheers,

BadOrb.

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  xanthmetis

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Joined: 8/07/13
Posts: 119

10/19/13 3:49:24 PM#28
Originally posted by Wizardry
Originally posted by Ender4

My hopes fall on EQ Next and Star Citizen. The rest of what I see seems to be more of what is already out there which doesn't interest me at all.

I beleive EQNext has potential but would not cross my fingers.I have been supporting SOE for many years and have a very good picture of how they do business.

SOE does create decent or good games but they show a lack of effort or do not care about much after the game is released.Example is bugs,they really do a horrible job in quality control but are utilizing more resources to making sure the next item for cash shop is ready to go.

I have always been happy with SOE's GM/support work imo the best there is and is probably their strongest point as a business.Aside from their rushed coding mistakes they lack the ability to think outside the box,it is like the same guy is making all the decisions ,so there is no new blood to creative thinking.

If you look at Next what are they doing for creative thinking?Well the emotes or automated jumps and slides are nice they are not content,they are features.A Minecraft simulation is again a feature not a creative content idea.Player made content will be restricted but is at least as minimal creative idea but again not SOE's.See the problem,SOE is the one lacking in creative content ideas,they are good at delivering features,usually have a nice looking game but are simply not very creative.

Yo ucan even look further int othe combat structure,is limiting a player to 4 choices really being creative?Ok add in another 4 from another class ,again is that creative content or just a limiting feature?SOE lacks the ability to bring all those features together and create something unique in game play,instead  my gut tells me they will deliver features but game play will be the same old.

Bottom line is 15 years of the same old gets real boring,we need a developer that can be creative in it's features AND content and bring it all together oh and all the while giving us some nice visuals,effects,graphics.

Every game in the future is going to have a lot of the same philosphy as past MMO's.  Think of Science or in any field of study.  People in the past discover things and people in the future tend to build of them those things and improve on them.  That does not mean you do not change part of the foundation from time to time. 

I think in terms of the science as I am in the medical field so bare with me.  A new medication or treatment for a patience is made from existing substances known to aide a patient.  As future research is develop new medications/treatments are derived from existing chemicals/substances.  Sometimes you find that things in the past were not always good for you and new ideas are things are being discovered.  But adding x, y, z make a new medication that has a greater benefit to the patient. 

I see EQN as doing this.  They are taking things from different areas in the genre and linking them all into one.  They are editing on their way to make all the ingredients work together.  The ideas may not be new, but putting them together in a different way; you produce a new product.  I would hope that all their ideas are not new ideas, because there are alot of things that work for the genre :)

With this said.  I was highly disappointed with EQ2 coming from EQ1.  So, I understand your trepidation and I am hoping for the best.  No pressure EQN, but try not to disappoint us it may your last chance :)

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  Vermillion_Raventhal

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10/19/13 3:54:28 PM#29

EQNext.  Not because its necassarly the game for me but because it's moving away from WoW trend.  At least I hope.  

 

ESO seems like it might be fun to play for awhile.  But lack of sandbox just doesn't interest me as much anymore.  I've wait years for another good sandbox to arrive lol.  

  aspekx

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10/19/13 4:04:45 PM#30
ya i'd say EQL/N i am looking forward to, but the only game recently to really peak my interest is The Division. hoping it turns out alright for the PC.

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  goldtoof

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Joined: 10/18/13
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10/19/13 4:13:14 PM#31
Starbound is the one I'm looking forwards too that should release first

After that Eso, eqn, cu, wod, elite dangerous, starcitizen all looking forwards too.
  DMKano

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Posts: 5107

10/19/13 4:20:53 PM#32

Excited for - EQ1, Rift, TSW, AoC, FF14ARR, ArcheAge, D3

You can be excited over games you've played for years, right?

 

  Ortwig

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10/19/13 4:26:32 PM#33
EQNext, Star Citizen, Shroud of the Avatar...
  xanthmetis

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10/19/13 5:56:14 PM#34
5. CU:  how could i forget this.  I just how an indie studio is up the challenge.  Their founding principles sound great and the foundation of the game.  The pvp sounds like it could be amazing in this game.  This is my second most anticipated under eqn. 

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  User Deleted
10/19/13 6:04:22 PM#35
World of Warcraft and of course I am always excited for the upcoming mmorpg's EqNext probably the most depending on what payment model actually takes flight if it stays f2p well I will probably skip it too. Wildstar and Eso are exciting. I dunno I guess when you say "excited" the payment models just take the wind out of my sails. I don't really get excited anymore for video games.
  Ramonski7

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10/19/13 6:16:29 PM#36

EVERYTHING! Am I allowed to say that? I'm not one to pick and choose a single mmo to stick with for the rest of my life and currently FFXIV is racking up a lot of playtime with me but I'm a MMORPG enthusiast first and a fanboi second. The genre is looking brighter with so many potential gems on the horizon. And I'm a player of all styles:

  • PvE
  • PvP
  • Sandbox
  • Themepark
  • Traditional fantasy
  • Non-traditional fantsy
  • Sub
  • F2P
  • B2P
There are so many choices. You need to diversify you bonds! Wu-Tang Financials

 


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  Chile267

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10/19/13 6:27:15 PM#37

Probably Star Citizen, City of Titans (if they get investors), Blizzards next MMO, and anything else in the next 3-5 years that surprises me.

  Pyrcyvyl

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10/19/13 9:55:31 PM#38
Blizzard's next, ESO, and continuing Eve.

  maccarthur2004

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10/19/13 10:04:44 PM#39
Archeage and Black Desert.

"What we are aiming in ArcheAge is to let the players feel the true fun of MMORPG by forming a community like real life by interacting with other players, whether it be conflict or cooperation." (Jake Song)

  bliss14

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Ahh devil ether.

10/19/13 10:05:13 PM#40
I am excited for the possibility of the opposite of what Nariusseldon espouses.  Please give us a world that isn't a throwaway.  Please make it so inconvenient and unwieldy yet rewarding and immersive that Narius throws up his hands and says, "Yeah, I get what you guys is talkin bout"  He or she will be so confounded by the deep and immersive world that he or she has been denegrating for so long that it will cause an about-face in his or her attitude towards games that have any sort of depth.  My grammatical structure may be lacking but I have a heart in this dog race.  Vote Nader.
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