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  Blazer6992

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10/18/13 1:43:05 AM#61

   At least they look real, not like a cartoon.

 

  JeroKane

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10/18/13 2:54:24 AM#62
Originally posted by Siris23
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by shalissar
Originally posted by Torvaldr

It looks pretty good as to what should be standard by now. I'm glad they're not skimping on this.

I'm trying to remember what other mmo has that triangle body shape mechanism. I remember thinking that was pretty slick.

I think that's Age of Conan, but the changes that you make on the sliders are more pronounced in ESO. Pretty nifty stuff, I'm gettin' more excited about this!

Arent they using the same engine as AoC?

 

I wouldnt be surprised if they used the same base engine... graphics indeed look a lot..

Unlikely, I don't think Funcom licenses their Dreamworld engine.

back on topic, if Skyrim's char creator was like this I would have played it way more. They were just fugly compared to this, esp. the elves.

Edit: looks like it's using HeroEngine:

http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/about-game-engine

hopefully they do a better job of implementing it than SWTOR did 

The current Version of HeroEngine is actually pretty good.

The problem With SW:TOR was, that they used one of the earliest Versions of HeroEngine and heavily modified it and so could not Upgrade the engine to later Versions anymore.

That Version of HeroEngine was plagued by performance problems and was the primary reason why the MMO Hero's Journey never saw the light of day.

Instead they later added it as a demo asset to HeroEngine.

  Torvaldr

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10/18/13 3:01:12 AM#63
Originally posted by Leviathonlx
Originally posted by Torvaldr

It looks pretty good as to what should be standard by now. I'm glad they're not skimping on this.

I'm trying to remember what other mmo has that triangle body shape mechanism. I remember thinking that was pretty slick.

Beast races being humans with animal heads and tails and every race using the same base skeleton (and in effect the same exact animations) is the very definition of skimping in my opinion. The last big game that got that lazy didn't fare so well. 

I mean in how the configuration tool works not really the racial options. That's more part of the lore of the game rather than the mechanics of the character creator. I don't have an opinion one way or another about the racial options.

The mechanics of the creator are more than satisfactory and like the AoC system. The texture look good enough and seem to fit the style and look of the game world.

The only thing that looks funny is the bendy armour but like like Sovrath points out it's likely to help performance in pvp.

I have plenty of criticism for the game but this isn't one of them. The system is at least as good as most any other currently published mmo.

Curse you AquaScum!

  User Deleted
10/18/13 3:43:42 AM#64

I think it looks pretty good. It's certainly better than most. I'm liking the age slider, if they really do have one. I like my mages to be wizened old dudes instead of teens. (But maybe if they mastered magic they wanted to make themselves look like they were in high school again, who knows?)

 

Also, I don't really understand why some people are so bitter about TESO. It isn't even out yet, so we can't know if it sucks or not. Why can't we give them a chance? I haven't been wronged by Zenimax, yet. Let's see what they can do before we pass judgment. They're just showing us what they have and I don't think they are hyping it into something it's not. I respect that, at least.

  Mischiff

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10/18/13 7:33:23 AM#65

its not bad .. but its not as good as AIONs, im glad you cant make tiny characters like in AION , but you cant even make one look like a dwarf from RIFT either, the height adjustment looks to be between 5'6 and a lil over 6'   .

Even the facials are subtle at best .. talking jaws, eyes, ears etc, not scars or tats .. in other words you would have to get pretty close to see any differences.

  Sovrath

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10/18/13 9:35:48 AM#66
Originally posted by Mischiff

its not bad .. but its not as good as AIONs, im glad you cant make tiny characters like in AION , but you cant even make one look like a dwarf from RIFT either, the height adjustment looks to be between 5'6 and a lil over 6'   .

Even the facials are subtle at best .. talking jaws, eyes, ears etc, not scars or tats .. in other words you would have to get pretty close to see any differences.

There are no Dwarves in Elder Scrolls that directly correlate to, say, a Lord of the Rings Dwarf. There are the Dwemer but they are elves and they have "vanished".

It's possible they were small, but I think, given Morrowind, they were probably more like Wood Elf size.

  Xarko

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10/18/13 11:08:09 AM#67
They were small elves with beards :)
  Valgar1

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10/18/13 12:46:48 PM#68
I belive they prefer little people.

  Leviathonlx

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10/18/13 10:44:37 PM#69
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Leviathonlx
Originally posted by Torvaldr

It looks pretty good as to what should be standard by now. I'm glad they're not skimping on this.

I'm trying to remember what other mmo has that triangle body shape mechanism. I remember thinking that was pretty slick.

Beast races being humans with animal heads and tails and every race using the same base skeleton (and in effect the same exact animations) is the very definition of skimping in my opinion. The last big game that got that lazy didn't fare so well. 

I mean in how the configuration tool works not really the racial options. That's more part of the lore of the game rather than the mechanics of the character creator. I don't have an opinion one way or another about the racial options.

The mechanics of the creator are more than satisfactory and like the AoC system. The texture look good enough and seem to fit the style and look of the game world.

The only thing that looks funny is the bendy armour but like like Sovrath points out it's likely to help performance in pvp.

I have plenty of criticism for the game but this isn't one of them. The system is at least as good as most any other currently published mmo.

 

From a gameplay perspective I look at it this way. If a developer is too lazy to put effort into the avatars players play as the entire time they are in the game then they likely will cut corners in other areas of gameplay as well.

 I understand the 'lore' reason for khajiit to not have digitigrade legs for example (though that lore was made up to justify said design laziness back in Oblivion) but in the case of argonians there is no such lore besides them wanting to use the same exact animations for everything to make things easier.

At least I have GW2 if I want my proper beast race (WoW too but Blizzard has problems having tauren and worgen exist). 
  Solo-nite

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10/19/13 6:36:02 AM#70

Doesn't look too bad at all, I mean it's not something different to be honest but it does cover a lot of customisation which is always good.

 

Good to see plenty of scar/tattoo options which I think some games lack in

  Sevenstar61

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10/19/13 10:51:57 AM#71
Looks really nice. I love the attention to details. I am certainly going to try it, even if just for a short while...


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  goldtoof

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10/19/13 12:41:32 PM#72
Looks better than the skyrim character creator to me.
  greyhawke115

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10/20/13 8:58:24 PM#73
Its nice enough, but I still prefer City of Heroes. The one failing of most MMOs is the reliance on gear acquired determining how you look, but needing the gear to actually be relevant in combat. If they disconnect the two and allow me to look the way I want right from the beginning, then I will be more impressed. 
  BreakNFaces

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10/23/13 5:53:32 AM#74
Looks above average, we are almost in 2014 so could of been better

  Classicstar

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10/23/13 6:08:28 AM#75


Originally posted by ivanj99

Originally posted by Leviathonlx

Originally posted by Torvaldr It looks pretty good as to what should be standard by now. I'm glad they're not skimping on this. I'm trying to remember what other mmo has that triangle body shape mechanism. I remember thinking that was pretty slick.
Beast races being humans with animal heads and tails and every race using the same base skeleton (and in effect the same exact animations) is the very definition of skimping in my opinion. The last big game that got that lazy didn't fare so well. 
Yea, this game is going to flop hard, in the day and age of mass consumer themeparks, you better atleast get the Lore right to keep your dedicated ES fans, aka how SWTOR is still surviving ( the stories are pretty good ).

 

everyone will just flock back to WOW once they do 30 day trial,  because most of there friends/relatives still playing WoW, so might as well just play that if your going to play a themepark, not to mention Gw2 buy to play is most peoples back ups.

 

What has changed inside Bethesda ever since Daggerfall/Marrowwind they have not released a good standalone game?


That's a positive 1month and down it go unless consoles have a succes and it could be they never enjoyed a multiplayer on this magnitude. But i very doub that most mmo players will fall for the same old copy past themepark DEJAVU feeling.

I realy don't understand why you people don't see these characters dont look so good.

Hair looks copied straight from oblivion ugly and primitive seems im only one seeing this, ill bet it dont even use any animation movement.

Remember how morrowind argonians walk.

These all look human only head is different and some different textures.

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  Lord.Bachus

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10/23/13 6:16:48 AM#76
Originally posted by stealthbr
Originally posted by Siris23

Unlikely, I don't think Funcom licenses their Dreamworld engine.

back on topic, if Skyrim's char creator was like this I would have played it way more. They were just fugly compared to this, esp. the elves.

Edit: looks like it's using HeroEngine:

http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/about-game-engine

hopefully they do a better job of implementing it than SWTOR did 

You didn't read that properly. "ZeniMax tell that HeroEngine helped them to get started. But final version of Elder Scrolls Online will have its own unique engine."

Lets hope so, because the hero engine was the single reason of all the initial swtor problems... And improving and working around the engine took more then half their budget, in the end for swtor the engine was a hindrance instead of a helpfull tool... eA should have developed their own mmo engine as part of the swtor project, would have been cheeper..

 

lets hope Zenimax does not get trapped in the same pit

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  Lord.Bachus

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10/23/13 6:18:41 AM#77
Originally posted by greyhawke115
Its nice enough, but I still prefer City of Heroes. The one failing of most MMOs is the reliance on gear acquired determining how you look, but needing the gear to actually be relevant in combat. If they disconnect the two and allow me to look the way I want right from the beginning, then I will be more impressed. 

Dcuo had a great system for that... Worked really well..

 

most games are offering a reforge option nowerdays, to recreate armor with different looks

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

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