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  etlar

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10/14/13 10:27:58 AM#21

Do not tryy and get into the beta, thats impossible, instead really  try to realize the truth.

 

THere is no beta.

Then you´ll see there is no beta, only yourself!  ;)

  Rorhc

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10/14/13 10:31:09 AM#22
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by Razeekster
I am seriously starting to wonder if there actually has been any real betas. None of my friends have been invited and we all signed up as soon as sign-ups were available. No one in my guild has gotten in either. These beta phases are starting to seem fictional to me...

 

Its a giant conspiracy. The only people that get in are the ones that hang out in irc all day and suck up to devs.

Or the ones with community connections, ie the inner circle of wildstar fans.

It's weird that I'm neither of those.

 

 

 

Conspiracy! (lol)

This could end up being very interesting.

  DAS1337

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10/14/13 10:32:23 AM#23

I love these posts.  There's always someone who can't fathom the idea of them or their vast network of friends and guildmates not getting into an early access portion of game development.

 

It's like they don't know that there are likely over a million applicants to choose from.

  Heretique

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10/16/13 9:39:32 PM#24
Yes the beta is real. Trust me.

Originally posted by salsa41
are you have problem ?

  skyline385

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10/16/13 9:57:26 PM#25
Originally posted by Heretique
Yes the beta is real. Trust me.

Are you saying from previous experience or did they start sending invites again and you got lucky ?

  lolunatic

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10/16/13 10:10:12 PM#26
*DELETED 4 BETA LEAKS*
  flizzer

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10/16/13 10:18:15 PM#27
Also don't forget if I don't like a game and none of my friends are playing said game, then the game is fail and will soon close.  WoW is a failed game since I don't play it and none of my friends like the game.  See!
  lordsefer

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10/19/13 12:14:59 AM#28
Originally posted by Zapzap
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by Dakeru

I signed up for the beta after seeing the game at Gamescom 2 years ago. The only answers I ever got were more mails such as "watch the latest dev interview" and "check out the newest race"

So I assume the beta registration was just to create more hype.

If you haven't followed the game to even know that there have already been several closed betas done including a couple of minor stress tests having 30k+ people in limited regions, then i would say you don't deserve to be playing one.

They took a break from closed betas a couple of months ago to implement several major changes which they have done already and will resuming it in October as the devs have said several times.

This goes for the OP as well

Ah good to know that you are the one in charge to judge people and decide whether they should get something or not.

I followed them for a year after I registered and that is more than enough time. When you tell a million convention visitors to sign up for testing and you get nothing but a commercial spam for the next 2 years then it's the company that doesn't deserve something. That something being my money and attention.

Closed Betas (especially in the Alpha stages) always have a very low number of lucky folks. The 30K+ which they invited for several tests was a generous number. I myself have been following the game for over a year and i have yet to be invited to even one beta. But, i ain't gonna go up in arms and start whining that beta is a hoax.

They never said that we want a million people to sign. They gave everyone a fair chance and opened up the signings for everyone. Just because over a million signed doesn't give you the authority to demand higher numbers of invites. They will invite what they can support at the time of the beta and what they feel will be enough to get the feedback they require.

[mod edit]

Developers put a lot of trust into people they invite into early betas and alpha.  These players can do a lot of damage at early stages if CMs pick the wrong people.  If someone sends them demanding emails, complaints and shows impatience there is a good chance they will demonstrate they are not trustworthy and get on the do not invite list.  In traditional MMO alphas and betas I see a lot of the same people every game getting invites.  These people may or may not be nice people but they know to how to act appropriately.  They know how to post constructively, how to treat other people with respect, how to do their job without creating waves and understand they should honor the trust the devs have put in them and not to leak information.

The poster above said he has emailed Carbine.  If he has expressed the same impatience and used the same tone he has used here it is no wonder he has not gotten an invite.  What CM would trust him with an early invite.  Generally CMs will invite people and guilds they know form other games 1st, people that they and other devs have worked with before whether its beta testing or raid testing or whatever, fanboys who have spent a lot of times on forums who have acted and posted appropriately and people who attend conventions and fan rallys. 

A lot  of luck is needed getting into betas and alphas, a lot of it is relationships and past experience and a lot of it is the way you act.  But regardless patience is needed.  It could simply be bad luck on part of the poster or it could be that he came off poorly in his communications.

I always hated that, the whole secrecy crap. You know what message it sends out to me? "Don't let people know our game sucks." I can't tell you how many times I get pissed off following a game for a long ass time, only to find the game is actually horrible and it was inflated and bloated by all the hype generated by lies and idiot fanboys who are like "Omg this is the best thing ever" despite not ever actually playing it, and the majority of them stick by their words because half of em don't like to be wrong, and the other half are so hyped that they cant see the truth of what the game really is.

So yea, I hope someone who has played the game can actually dispose to us some kind of information telling us how the game -really- is. Infact, you can do it cryptically without getting in trouble! Just start talking about a game you think plays similarly (but don't say your comparing them. Just randomly start talking about another game in this thread.) and then end your sentence with a smiley face depicting if you think its good or not. (but dont say the smiley face is for wildstar)

See? There you go, a way to tell us about how the game is without really breaking nda. After all, talking about ANOTHER game isn't breaking nda? I mean... Its not like your actually comparing the two... Your just randomly talking about another game that you happened to have played.

bleh

  Zapzap

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10/19/13 11:07:22 AM#29
Originally posted by lordsefer
Originally posted by Zapzap
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by Dakeru

I signed up for the beta after seeing the game at Gamescom 2 years ago. The only answers I ever got were more mails such as "watch the latest dev interview" and "check out the newest race"

So I assume the beta registration was just to create more hype.

If you haven't followed the game to even know that there have already been several closed betas done including a couple of minor stress tests having 30k+ people in limited regions, then i would say you don't deserve to be playing one.

They took a break from closed betas a couple of months ago to implement several major changes which they have done already and will resuming it in October as the devs have said several times.

This goes for the OP as well

Ah good to know that you are the one in charge to judge people and decide whether they should get something or not.

I followed them for a year after I registered and that is more than enough time. When you tell a million convention visitors to sign up for testing and you get nothing but a commercial spam for the next 2 years then it's the company that doesn't deserve something. That something being my money and attention.

Closed Betas (especially in the Alpha stages) always have a very low number of lucky folks. The 30K+ which they invited for several tests was a generous number. I myself have been following the game for over a year and i have yet to be invited to even one beta. But, i ain't gonna go up in arms and start whining that beta is a hoax.

They never said that we want a million people to sign. They gave everyone a fair chance and opened up the signings for everyone. Just because over a million signed doesn't give you the authority to demand higher numbers of invites. They will invite what they can support at the time of the beta and what they feel will be enough to get the feedback they require.

[mod edit]

Developers put a lot of trust into people they invite into early betas and alpha.  These players can do a lot of damage at early stages if CMs pick the wrong people.  If someone sends them demanding emails, complaints and shows impatience there is a good chance they will demonstrate they are not trustworthy and get on the do not invite list.  In traditional MMO alphas and betas I see a lot of the same people every game getting invites.  These people may or may not be nice people but they know to how to act appropriately.  They know how to post constructively, how to treat other people with respect, how to do their job without creating waves and understand they should honor the trust the devs have put in them and not to leak information.

The poster above said he has emailed Carbine.  If he has expressed the same impatience and used the same tone he has used here it is no wonder he has not gotten an invite.  What CM would trust him with an early invite.  Generally CMs will invite people and guilds they know form other games 1st, people that they and other devs have worked with before whether its beta testing or raid testing or whatever, fanboys who have spent a lot of times on forums who have acted and posted appropriately and people who attend conventions and fan rallys. 

A lot  of luck is needed getting into betas and alphas, a lot of it is relationships and past experience and a lot of it is the way you act.  But regardless patience is needed.  It could simply be bad luck on part of the poster or it could be that he came off poorly in his communications.

I always hated that, the whole secrecy crap. You know what message it sends out to me? "Don't let people know our game sucks." I can't tell you how many times I get pissed off following a game for a long ass time, only to find the game is actually horrible and it was inflated and bloated by all the hype generated by lies and idiot fanboys who are like "Omg this is the best thing ever" despite not ever actually playing it, and the majority of them stick by their words because half of em don't like to be wrong, and the other half are so hyped that they cant see the truth of what the game really is.

So yea, I hope someone who has played the game can actually dispose to us some kind of information telling us how the game -really- is. Infact, you can do it cryptically without getting in trouble! Just start talking about a game you think plays similarly (but don't say your comparing them. Just randomly start talking about another game in this thread.) and then end your sentence with a smiley face depicting if you think its good or not. (but dont say the smiley face is for wildstar)

See? There you go, a way to tell us about how the game is without really breaking nda. After all, talking about ANOTHER game isn't breaking nda? I mean... Its not like your actually comparing the two... Your just randomly talking about another game that you happened to have played.

There will be a time for a developer to show off their game.  If the game is good and worth playing they will open it to as many people as possible during open beta.  If its bad they will limit people from seeing the bad parts.

That being said I do not approve of your message telling people to break the NDA.  Developers put a lot of trust in players allowing them into beta.  Leaks can cause a lot of damage.  One should respect that trust and simply keep their mouth closed.  For some that might be a hard thing to do.  But it is the right thing to do.  If the game is bad people will find out and know if they pay attention you do not need to break your word.  If its good the same will happen.  Patience and integrity seem to have become rare abilities for many people. Take a deep breath, wait. and adjust your expectations.  We are a minimum of 6 months until release day.  Likely 8 months and possibly longer if the game gets delayed again. Let us hope they use this time wisely and make a game worth playing.

  Odinthedark1

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10/19/13 12:45:48 PM#30
it has been in closed beta for a little more than 2 years, i signed up for beta day one it was put up...still haven't gotten in despite the fact that i've signed up with multiple emails to increase my chances....its super super exclusive i guess...either way i only have a mild interest in this game now, its been so long i could care less. Still, if it ever DOES go into open beta ill give it a shot.
  DOGMA1138

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10/21/13 1:18:22 PM#31
Originally posted by Odinthedark1
it has been in closed beta for a little more than 2 years, i signed up for beta day one it was put up...still haven't gotten in despite the fact that i've signed up with multiple emails to increase my chances....its super super exclusive i guess...either way i only have a mild interest in this game now, its been so long i could care less. Still, if it ever DOES go into open beta ill give it a shot.

Just a small point when you signed up they run a script that does a machine fingerprint in addition to logging the IP address.

Signing up with multiple emails from the same hosts with the same IP address might not increase your chances by one bit, infact it might ban you from the draw all together.

 

  Fusion

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10/21/13 1:21:55 PM#32
I smell a US-bias beta, since i've not heard from anywhere 'around' me anything (and i know alot of EU based MMO folks from big and bigger communities), no matter the NDA, there's always atleast a mention of someone being in (but not a hiss on WS in the EU sector i know of)

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  Aori

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10/21/13 1:29:57 PM#33
Originally posted by Fusion
I smell a US-bias beta, since i've not heard from anywhere 'around' me anything (and i know alot of EU based MMO folks from big and bigger communities), no matter the NDA, there's always atleast a mention of someone being in (but not a hiss on WS in the EU sector i know of)

They invited EU and AUS players awhile back. I think it was Phase 2 when they announced that.

  Deerhunter71

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10/21/13 1:30:19 PM#34
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by Dakeru

I signed up for the beta after seeing the game at Gamescom 2 years ago. The only answers I ever got were more mails such as "watch the latest dev interview" and "check out the newest race"

So I assume the beta registration was just to create more hype.

If you haven't followed the game to even know that there have already been several closed betas done including a couple of minor stress tests having 30k+ people in limited regions, then i would say you don't deserve to be playing one.

They took a break from closed betas a couple of months ago to implement several major changes which they have done already and will resuming it in October as the devs have said several times.

This goes for the OP as well

Been watching this game and heard of the supposed stress tests yet me and a lot of guildmates have not even gotten into this...

  DOGMA1138

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10/21/13 1:32:52 PM#35
Originally posted by Fusion
I smell a US-bias beta, since i've not heard from anywhere 'around' me anything (and i know alot of EU based MMO folks from big and bigger communities), no matter the NDA, there's always atleast a mention of someone being in (but not a hiss on WS in the EU sector i know of)

The last stress test was very German centric from the reports, probably because it was couple of weeks before Gamescon and they wanted to generate some buzz locally.

 

  Aori

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10/21/13 1:33:14 PM#36
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by Dakeru

I signed up for the beta after seeing the game at Gamescom 2 years ago. The only answers I ever got were more mails such as "watch the latest dev interview" and "check out the newest race"

So I assume the beta registration was just to create more hype.

If you haven't followed the game to even know that there have already been several closed betas done including a couple of minor stress tests having 30k+ people in limited regions, then i would say you don't deserve to be playing one.

They took a break from closed betas a couple of months ago to implement several major changes which they have done already and will resuming it in October as the devs have said several times.

This goes for the OP as well

Been watching this game and heard of the supposed stress tests yet me and a lot of guildmates have not even gotten into this...

Well it does have an NDA, hopefully your guildmates are adhering to it.

  Myrdynn

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10/21/13 1:39:52 PM#37
Its real and its NOT spectacular
  Fusion

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10/21/13 2:26:34 PM#38
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Fusion
I smell a US-bias beta, since i've not heard from anywhere 'around' me anything (and i know alot of EU based MMO folks from big and bigger communities), no matter the NDA, there's always atleast a mention of someone being in (but not a hiss on WS in the EU sector i know of)

They invited EU and AUS players awhile back. I think it was Phase 2 when they announced that.

Like i said, NDA regardless, someone always mentions being in a beta and it doesn't matter if i say i knew someone in the beta (which i don't, which is "odd" because i know people in every other beta / alpha around, but not WS), because no one besides me would know who i'm talking about. So yeah, i have high doubts on EU participants.

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  Odinthedark1

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10/21/13 3:20:30 PM#39
Originally posted by DOGMA1138
Originally posted by Odinthedark1
it has been in closed beta for a little more than 2 years, i signed up for beta day one it was put up...still haven't gotten in despite the fact that i've signed up with multiple emails to increase my chances....its super super exclusive i guess...either way i only have a mild interest in this game now, its been so long i could care less. Still, if it ever DOES go into open beta ill give it a shot.

Just a small point when you signed up they run a script that does a machine fingerprint in addition to logging the IP address.

Signing up with multiple emails from the same hosts with the same IP address might not increase your chances by one bit, infact it might ban you from the draw all together.

 

I've gone through 2 laptop upgrades in the past couple years and a rebuilt PC, as well as moving around between new york/new jersey quite often (Meaning a new ip address every move), void arguement for someone like me who moves around a lot and has money to spare for the higher end laptops in annual intervals. Though i guess it doesn't matter, i've waited this long and lost interest so i can wait till OBT.

  numz92

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10/21/13 3:35:39 PM#40
Originally posted by DOGMA1138
Originally posted by Odinthedark1
it has been in closed beta for a little more than 2 years, i signed up for beta day one it was put up...still haven't gotten in despite the fact that i've signed up with multiple emails to increase my chances....its super super exclusive i guess...either way i only have a mild interest in this game now, its been so long i could care less. Still, if it ever DOES go into open beta ill give it a shot.

Just a small point when you signed up they run a script that does a machine fingerprint in addition to logging the IP address.

Signing up with multiple emails from the same hosts with the same IP address might not increase your chances by one bit, infact it might ban you from the draw all together.

 

Just don't say such stupid things...

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