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  TiamatRoar

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10/15/13 9:52:18 AM#21
Originally posted by VoreDock
Originally posted by lugal
Ine thing, it is not "your" story. Everybody of the same class gets the same story.

this is true but it is a deeply personal story  show me another game with 8 storylines all voiced that branch into 16 at the then mid LV  and flashpoints are added offten  the flashpoints all have their own storylines some even ark 2 or 3 flashpoints and you can group with friends on each so you can see other stories than your own  

Ah, so that's where all that budget went!

  VoreDock

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OP  10/15/13 9:53:18 AM#22
Originally posted by udon
Originally posted by VoreDock

This post is for real info about SWTOR if you have real info have played the game for the last few months and have something to post that is real not hate then plz post  SWTOR is not SWG it have never been trying to be SWG infact the 2 have nothing to do with each other.

SWTOR is not pay to win   - I would not call this game P2W either.

SWTOR is not dead or dieing  -  I guess that depends on how you define it.  The beginning and end seem to be fine but the middle of the game often feels very dead with some worlds having only a handful of people on them all doing their own thing.  I don't think that's different than any other older game but it is what it is.

SWTOR is not low pop or empty - Again I guess that depends on what you are looking to do.  If you like to group up between level's 10 and 50 you are likely to be in for a hard time.

SWTOR is not something you must spend money on ( but $ 5 us spent one time will make your game more fun ) - It is very possible to play the game to max level without ever spending a dime or just a little bit like you said.  I can't imagine trying to do anything meaninful max level without a subscription or buying at least some of the passes to one of the end game activities.  I guess you could farm solo dailies forever if that was your thing.

SWTOR is fun both as PVP and PVE even for free players - Fun is subjective but I would say if you like story driven PVE or arena PVP it's a good game.  If you are looking for more sandbox elements you are likely to not find them. 

SWTOR is a AAA gaming exp. ( close to that of MASS EFFECT ) - There is a balance point here but I think SWTOR put to much focus on the single players story and not enough on the MMO.  My opinion to be sure but one I think many others share.  I enjoyed my time in SWTOR as a single player game and hated my time in SWTOR as a MMO.

SWTOR is your story  you can share it with friends. - Kind of.  My problem with story heavy MMO's has been that I have not played one yet that really makes it easy to share as you would put it.  Sure people can help you but why should they as they are seeing only a single part of the story unless they stick with you start to finish.  It's like watching 10 5 minute clips of a movie and trying to piece the story together.

SWTOR has subs if you want them  ( if you sub all restrictions are lifted  ) - I wouldn't consider Sub's optional at max level.

if you have real questions or any real info you want to add plz do  

NO HATERS PLZ  - I don't hate the game but I am critical of it. 

 

  your opinion is respected  and SWTOR is no sandbox  your right on many points  but i have to say no on pop as allot of f2p players are now mid LV 

 

  klash2def

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(/O_o)/ mods please close thread.

10/15/13 9:55:00 AM#23
Originally posted by Darwa

Remember, nobody is necessarily a 'hater' just because they don't like the game you cherish.

 Everyone is entitled to not like a game.. whatever. But it turns into hate when EVERY SINGLE GOT DAMN SWTOR THREAD IS FULL OF THE SAME PEOPLE SAYING HOW MUCH IT FAILED.. literally, the same people.. saying the same shit almost every single time. Like dude.. get a life. The game isnt that fucking bad and there arent many options better than it. Hey I dont like onions on my burgers.. but im not going to every store that sells them or every review on onion stew trying to detract and distract people who actually might like onion. That would make me a old hipster bitch (OHB) like 95% of people on this site. 

People who enjoy the game for what it is do a few things :

They understand its not the only game option out there.

They understand its not SWG and isnt trying to be.

They play the damn thing. There isnt a  "it has a F2P option so it must be fail syndrome"

  RabidMouth

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Posts: 190

10/15/13 10:00:25 AM#24
Lots of opinions.... Which is basically misinformation. Just because you want something to be true does not make it so.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

  VoreDock

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OP  10/15/13 10:00:41 AM#25
Originally posted by Darwa
Originally posted by VoreDock
Originally posted by Darwa

Remember, nobody is necessarily a 'hater' just because they don't like the game you cherish.

your not a hater  your opinion is respected 

Exactly and thank you. 

Personally, I don't like SWtOR. I never have and I doubt I ever will.

Of course, I can say the same about carrots, but I'll never try and convince someone not to eat them on account of my personal taste.

Can you see how, by making this thread, you'll only elicit negativity and that could be considered trolling? (I see someone has reported the thread, presumably for that reason).

I'm sure that wasn't your intention, but by the the time I posted this, someone has already attacked me, despite me having said nothing either positive nor negative.

my goal is to show others what SWTOR is  ( players that have not played  and might want to try SWTOR ) and to stand up to the hate and  say its not ok to hate  i respect all  people even haters  you all have a right to like or not like any game  i just wanted  to set a place for real info about SWTOR  

  udon

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10/15/13 10:02:08 AM#26
Originally posted by NightBandit
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by VoreDock

This post is for real info about SWTOR if you have real info have played the game for the last few months and have something to post that is real not hate then plz post  SWTOR is not SWG it have never been trying to be SWG infact the 2 have nothing to do with each other.

SWTOR is not pay to win

SWTOR is not dead or dieing

SWTOR is not low pop or empty

SWTOR is not something you must spend money on ( but $ 5 us spent one time will make your game more fun )

 

SWTOR is fun both as PVP and PVE even for free players

SWTOR is a AAA gaming exp. ( close to that of MASS EFFECT )

SWTOR is your story  you can share it with friends.

SWTOR has subs if you want them  ( if you sub all restrictions are lifted  )

 

if you have real questions or any real info you want to add plz do  

NO HATERS PLZ 

I think you're confusing hatred with disappointment.

+1 Also Vore why you wasting time trying to convince folks that SWTOR is all of a sudden the EPIC game they claimed it to be many moons ago. If it's that good wtf you doing wasting time in here go play it!!!

Not sure if you noticed but they LIED to us all...

 

Bandit.

The word "LIED" implies deliberate and calculated attempt to deceive the game community and my feeling is that is not what happened.  I think they had every intention of delivering the game they talked about but in the end they just could not make the vision turn into a working reality with the budget and time frame they had.  

I don't believe that companies that want to sell long term relationship services like MMO's to players deliberately set out to deceive them because there is no sense in that.  That only works if you want to grab the money and run sort of speak which the subscription model doesn't really lend well to.  Now F2P and B2P games could be but not always are a very different story.

More likely the developers fell victim to their own hype and drastically underestimated how long and how much it was going to cost to take a game from mostly complete to done.  It's a pretty common occurrence in the video game industry actually.

  VoreDock

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OP  10/15/13 10:04:51 AM#27
Originally posted by klash2def
Originally posted by Darwa

Remember, nobody is necessarily a 'hater' just because they don't like the game you cherish.

 Everyone is entitled to not like a game.. whatever. But it turns into hate when EVERY SINGLE GOT DAMN SWTOR THREAD IS FULL OF THE SAME PEOPLE SAYING HOW MUCH IT FAILED.. literally, the same people.. saying the same shit almost every single time. Like dude.. get a life. The game isnt that fucking bad and there arent many options better than it. Hey I dont like onions on my burgers.. but im not going to every store that sells them or every review on onion stew trying to detract and distract people who actually might like onion. That would make me a old hipster bitch (OHB) like 95% of people on this site. 

People who enjoy the game for what it is do a few things :

They understand its not the only game option out there.

They understand its not SWG and isnt trying to be.

They play the damn thing. There isnt a  "it has a F2P option so it must be fail syndrome"

Thank you this is the whole hate point 

  RabidMouth

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10/15/13 10:06:14 AM#28
Originally posted by VoreDock
Originally posted by Darwa
Originally posted by VoreDock
Originally posted by Darwa

Remember, nobody is necessarily a 'hater' just because they don't like the game you cherish.

your not a hater  your opinion is respected 

Exactly and thank you. 

Personally, I don't like SWtOR. I never have and I doubt I ever will.

Of course, I can say the same about carrots, but I'll never try and convince someone not to eat them on account of my personal taste.

Can you see how, by making this thread, you'll only elicit negativity and that could be considered trolling? (I see someone has reported the thread, presumably for that reason).

I'm sure that wasn't your intention, but by the the time I posted this, someone has already attacked me, despite me having said nothing either positive nor negative.

my goal is to show others what SWTOR is  ( players that have not played  and might want to try SWTOR ) and to stand up to the hate and  say its not ok to hate  i respect all  people even haters  you all have a right to like or not like any game  i just wanted  to set a place for real info about SWTOR  

Except half of your post was an opinion. Just sayin...

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

  FlyinDutchman87

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10/15/13 10:08:32 AM#29
But it's still a wow clone........
  DamonVile

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10/15/13 10:08:41 AM#30
Originally posted by Darwa
Originally posted by VoreDock
Originally posted by Darwa

Remember, nobody is necessarily a 'hater' just because they don't like the game you cherish.

your not a hater  your opinion is respected 

Exactly and thank you. 

Personally, I don't like SWtOR. I never have and I doubt I ever will.

Of course, I can say the same about carrots, but I'll never try and convince someone not to eat them on account of my personal taste.

Can you see how, by making this thread, you'll only elicit negativity and that could be considered trolling? (I see someone has reported the thread, presumably for that reason).

I'm sure that wasn't your intention, but by the the time I posted this, someone has already attacked me, despite me having said nothing either positive nor negative.

lol that wasn't an attack on you... You might be the one that needs to calm down and stop being so defensive. Maybe it hit a bit close to home in your past posting ...I don't know but it was aimed at the people who really can't stop themselves when it comes to this game.

 

There's a saying about evolution and why we have two eyes and two ears but only one mouth. Clearly it didn't see the internet coming or it never would have given us ten fingers to type with.

  ignore_me

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10/15/13 10:09:35 AM#31
Originally posted by DamonVile

If it's fun go play it. The opinions from this site have always been negative about every game but eve. They've also had no influence on the industry because developers know what kind of ppl hang out here.

When you want to get ideas for a new product you don't go to the old folks home to listen to them complain about how great everything used to be.

^^ Don't listen to this guy, he Hangs Out Here.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  VoreDock

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OP  10/15/13 10:10:21 AM#32
Originally posted by FlyinDutchman87
But it's still a wow clone........

in many ways this is both true and untrue  40 % wow clone but much better  ( no reading quests ) 

  VoreDock

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OP  10/15/13 10:16:36 AM#33
  iridescence

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10/15/13 10:20:44 AM#34

I'm not a "hater". I bought it, having a feeling that I'd get bored with it after a month and that, in fact, is what happened. I think I probably got my $30 worth (glad I waited a couple of months after it came out  for it to come down in price though.) The first 20 or so levels are some of the most fun I've had in any MMO. The story is pretty good and draws you in. The problem is, at least for me, that after about level 20, I started to feel like the voice acting could no longer hide how many of the quests were just "kill 10 space rats". The combat is clunky and if you play multiple classes from the same faction, which I did,  you really start to see how much content is duplicated no matter which class you play.

 

None of my characters actually finished their story and I thought I may go back when it went F2P. But the model is ridiculous. I refuse to pay so I can use extra hotbars. It seems like deceptive advertising to call it F2P when they charge for basic and needed things like that.

 

My overall impression of the game was that as KOTOR3 it wasn't bad but would have been much better if they had made it a completely single player game. As an MMO, it totally failed to convince me to play it for more than a month.

 

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

10/15/13 10:23:49 AM#35

Is this thread about haters or SWTOR?

This thread has already failed its purpose - you need to forget about the haters, and thread title should have been "Information on SWTOR" and have no "haters" in it, to have been more of a success

  ignore_me

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10/15/13 10:25:26 AM#36
Originally posted by VoreDock

That is a fact huh? lol. Yes you have diagnosed all those who don't like this game as having self-esteem issues. omg thank you for this. Well by that logic, if I start liking this game will I then have a great self-image?

This is a pop-psychology recipe for goodness here! You should go out on the streets and tell people to play so that they can feel good about themselves.

Best post ever

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  udon

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10/15/13 10:26:04 AM#37
Originally posted by iridescence

I'm not a "hater". I bought it, having a feeling that I'd get bored with it after a month and that, in fact, is what happened. I think I probably got my $30 worth (glad I waited a couple of months after it came out  for it to come down in price though.) The first 20 or so levels are some of the most fun I've had in any MMO. The story is pretty good and draws you in. The problem is, at least for me, that after about level 20, I started to feel like the voice acting could no longer hide how many of the quests were just "kill 10 space rats". The combat is clunky and if you play multiple classes from the same faction, which I did,  you really start to see how much content is duplicated no matter which class you play.

 

None of my characters actually finished their story and I thought I may go back when it went F2P. But the model is ridiculous. I refuse to pay so I can use extra hotbars. It seems like deceptive advertising to call it F2P when they charge for basic and needed things like that.

 

My overall impression of the game was that as KOTOR3 it wasn't bad but would have been much better if they had made it a completely single player game. As an MMO, it totally failed to convince me to play it for more than a month.

Just a note they removed that stupid limitation a while back.  It's really easy to play level 1 to max without spending a dime especially if you own a box copy of the game as long as you don't care about space combat, PVP or Dungeons more than very rarely.  It's only at cap that the need to spend money or subscribe really hits in.

In many regrades the best part of SWTOR is the part that is free and the weakest part of the game is the part they are charging for.  Kind of funny when you think about it.

  VoreDock

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OP  10/15/13 10:33:50 AM#38
Originally posted by iridescence

I'm not a "hater". I bought it, having a feeling that I'd get bored with it after a month and that, in fact, is what happened. I think I probably got my $30 worth (glad I waited a couple of months after it came out  for it to come down in price though.) The first 20 or so levels are some of the most fun I've had in any MMO. The story is pretty good and draws you in. The problem is, at least for me, that after about level 20, I started to feel like the voice acting could no longer hide how many of the quests were just "kill 10 space rats". The combat is clunky and if you play multiple classes from the same faction, which I did,  you really start to see how much content is duplicated no matter which class you play.

 

None of my characters actually finished their story and I thought I may go back when it went F2P. But the model is ridiculous. I refuse to pay so I can use extra hotbars. It seems like deceptive advertising to call it F2P when they charge for basic and needed things like that.

 

My overall impression of the game was that as KOTOR3 it wasn't bad but would have been much better if they had made it a completely single player game. As an MMO, it totally failed to convince me to play it for more than a month.

 

I invite you back all of this has been fixed you have spent  money on the games   so you would be a perfired player 

the hotbar problem is gone  only 100 % F2P players have 2 hotbars  all others have 4 or 6 and you can get up to 8 off the GTN the in game auction house sence you subbed you should have 6 hotbars SWTOR never had more then 6 hotbars  untill  RoTHC exp then 2 were added at players request but everyone must bye the 2 extra ones even subs if you want them 

SWTOR does not charge players for needed items  unless you have never payed a dime for SWTOR after you spend 5 $ one time your prefired  player 

You can even earn cash shop coins for in game achvements almost everything in the cash shop is on the GTN the in game auction house  for credits  the in game money 

  Rosha

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10/15/13 10:33:58 AM#39
Originally posted by VoreDock

show me another game with 8 storylines all voiced that branch into 16 at the then mid LV  and flashpoints are added offten  the flashpoints all have their own storylines some even ark 2 or 3 flashpoints and you can group with friends on each so you can see other stories than your own  

Minus the voiceovers...  most MMOs, right back to grandaddy EverQuest.

Back in my day even weapons and armor had quests, not just some "simple" crafting process after killing a boss or two.

  ignore_me

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10/15/13 10:36:29 AM#40
Originally posted by VoreDock
Originally posted by iridescence

I'm not a "hater". I bought it, having a feeling that I'd get bored with it after a month and that, in fact, is what happened. I think I probably got my $30 worth (glad I waited a couple of months after it came out  for it to come down in price though.) The first 20 or so levels are some of the most fun I've had in any MMO. The story is pretty good and draws you in. The problem is, at least for me, that after about level 20, I started to feel like the voice acting could no longer hide how many of the quests were just "kill 10 space rats". The combat is clunky and if you play multiple classes from the same faction, which I did,  you really start to see how much content is duplicated no matter which class you play.

 

None of my characters actually finished their story and I thought I may go back when it went F2P. But the model is ridiculous. I refuse to pay so I can use extra hotbars. It seems like deceptive advertising to call it F2P when they charge for basic and needed things like that.

 

My overall impression of the game was that as KOTOR3 it wasn't bad but would have been much better if they had made it a completely single player game. As an MMO, it totally failed to convince me to play it for more than a month.

 

I invite you back all of this has been fixed you have spent  money on the games   so you would be a perfired player 

the hotbar problem is gone  only 100 % F2P players have 2 hotbars  all others have 4 or 6 and you can get up to 8 off the GTN the in game auction house sence you subbed you should have 6 hotbars SWTOR never had more then 6 hotbars  untill  RoTHC exp then 2 were added at players request but everyone must bye the 2 extra ones even subs if you want them 

SWTOR does not charge players for needed items  unless you have never payed a dime for SWTOR after you spend 5 $ one time your prefired  player 

You can even earn cash shop coins for in game achvements almost everything in the cash shop is on the GTN the in game auction house  for credits  the in game money 

Andryah is that you?

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