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  nariusseldon

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10/10/13 1:59:29 PM#41
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by DavisFlight
 

Erm, not really. Because the stories in MMOs do not measure up against stories in singleplayer games.

There is an entire genre of RPGs to play online with friends. Diablo, Titan's Quest, Neverwinter.

MMORPGs were always about things on a massive scale, hundreds of people playing together forming a larger story.

So? Not all the stories in every SP game is equal either. MMO stories provide some more variety. Is there a reason game with a marvel comic book story? No, except Marvel Heroes. That is one reason to play marvel heroes.

You're relying on this excuse way too much. This is to do with the IP, not the genre.

If you ask "Would this game be better if it wasn't an MMO?" and the answer is yes? The devs fucked up somewhere.

Another genre would be better suited for SWTOR. Another genre would have been better suited for TSW.

In fact, both games started off as singleplayer games in concept. And it shows. Neither retained players. Both were changed to MMOs because the companies behind them wanted to be justified in charging a monthly fee.

So? The point is that IP and playstyle is more important, to me, than genre. If you want to call Marvel Heroes a different label, it does not change the game, or if it is fun for me.

And yes, some of these games are better as non-MMORPGs. Again .. so? Even if the dev makes an error in putting it in a different genre, it does not mean i should not play it. I do think MH is better to take out all the MMO stuff ... but no game is perfect. It is just like i think Splinter Cell Blacklist will be better if it allows for more building climbing .. but i am not going to avoid playing it just because it is not perfect.

 

  Jaedor

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10/10/13 2:25:03 PM#42

Love it or hate it, LOTRO has a really passionate player base.


To the OP, the world is wide open to you until about level 50. Until then, you can explore all you like but questing content is gated by a paywall at about level 30. There are a number of excellent guides re how to maximize your game currency for questing to level up, and most of them recommend subscribing for 30 days to permanently acquire some benefits such as swift travel, AH access, extra bags, free riding skill, extra character slot, etc.


All players need to buy expansions in order to access the questing content, instances and raids in them. But it is possible to pay for them with game currency, or to skip content and grind on mobs if you want to wait until you are closer to the level cap to buy an expansion. You can totally play LOTRO without spending a dime as long as you are patient and persistent, and willing to grind out the game currency for what you want.


LOTRO has some of the best environmental art around and remains true to the book lore while providing a way for the player to engage with the story. It also has one of the friendliest and most generous player communities - anywhere. Good luck.

  flizzer

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10/10/13 2:33:00 PM#43

I've been away for about a year playing GW2 and just recently returned due to the soon to launch Helm's Deep.  I find myself falling in love with LOTRO all over again!   I am running the game on max settings with the high res client.  I find the game is still looking good for a game that came out in 2007.  In my opinion no other game beats the epic story you get to play in LOTRO.  I envy a new player who has yet to experience it and is starting from the beginning.  There is just so much story without even mentioning the other content available. I can't really speak about the f2p model since I am a lifer from the early days.  One of the est investments I ever made.  I have friends who play tne f2p model who regret not getting the lifetime when it it was offered. 

I am a huge Tolkien fan as are my friends. If you are not a fan of Tolkien and Middle Earth this game might appear uninteresting to you I imagine.  I guess I can count myself fortunate there are many Tolkien fans still playing this game. 

  Lord.Bachus

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10/10/13 2:43:00 PM#44
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Lore and stories are great, you really feel part of middle earth during its most wellknown time

Too bad those parts do not play nice in an MMO setting.

This would be a great game... as a singleplayer or COOP experience.

As an MMO, the world feels too phased and instanced and fractured, articicial gates and invisible walls everywhere, and grouping is discouraged at every turn.

Thats why i play games like swtor tsw, lotro  and WoW...  Because they have great stories, story is the most important part of an RPG, and thats still what MMORPGs are, they are RPGs to enjoy with your friends online...

 

people like different things in games, calling stories in mmos a fail is only your perspective....

Erm, not really. Because the stories in MMOs do not measure up against stories in singleplayer games.

There is an entire genre of RPGs to play online with friends. Diablo, Titan's Quest, Neverwinter.

MMORPGs were always about things on a massive scale, hundreds of people playing together forming a larger story.

MMOs that try to do singleplayer stories always come out worse off because

a) the combat is worse than a singleplayer/coop game, because of net code limitations

b) the story is always worse because it is padded with fetch quests and constrained by the limited mechanics of the MMO genre. Also, the result of each quest is the same, and it NEVER impacts the game world.

c) Again, NO IMPACT ON THE GAME WORLD. Since everyone shares the same world, once you exit the instance, you influence ends.

 

I can't say a game has "great stories" when they force me to kill 10 wolves every 2 minutes to get the next chunk of "story".

Obviously you never played any of the MMOs i described... As there are many epic quests inthere way beyound killing ten donkeys.

 

still you dont see that the majorrity of players likes stories in mmos, i myself need them to get imemrsed in the world and questing is a the best way to get involved in the stories and the world.  I would not play an mmo withoth a long series of epic quests, 

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations)
Currently playing : The Elder Scrolls Online

  DavisFlight

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10/10/13 2:51:31 PM#45
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Lore and stories are great, you really feel part of middle earth during its most wellknown time

Too bad those parts do not play nice in an MMO setting.

This would be a great game... as a singleplayer or COOP experience.

As an MMO, the world feels too phased and instanced and fractured, articicial gates and invisible walls everywhere, and grouping is discouraged at every turn.

Thats why i play games like swtor tsw, lotro  and WoW...  Because they have great stories, story is the most important part of an RPG, and thats still what MMORPGs are, they are RPGs to enjoy with your friends online...

 

people like different things in games, calling stories in mmos a fail is only your perspective....

Erm, not really. Because the stories in MMOs do not measure up against stories in singleplayer games.

There is an entire genre of RPGs to play online with friends. Diablo, Titan's Quest, Neverwinter.

MMORPGs were always about things on a massive scale, hundreds of people playing together forming a larger story.

MMOs that try to do singleplayer stories always come out worse off because

a) the combat is worse than a singleplayer/coop game, because of net code limitations

b) the story is always worse because it is padded with fetch quests and constrained by the limited mechanics of the MMO genre. Also, the result of each quest is the same, and it NEVER impacts the game world.

c) Again, NO IMPACT ON THE GAME WORLD. Since everyone shares the same world, once you exit the instance, you influence ends.

 

I can't say a game has "great stories" when they force me to kill 10 wolves every 2 minutes to get the next chunk of "story".

Obviously you never played any of the MMOs i described... As there are many epic quests inthere way beyound killing ten donkeys.

 

still you dont see that the majorrity of players likes stories in mmos

There are plenty of epic quests, they're just all in intances and have no impact on the world. And the gameplay within said instances is very limited compared to the singleplayer games LotRO tries to emulate.

 

And if the majority of players liked stories in MMOs, SWTOR wouldn't have been the biggest failure in MMO history. And TSW wouldn't have failed. And AoC wouldn't have failed. Singleplayer storylines belong in singleplayer games.

Massive stories belong in MMOs. See: Asheron's Call. MMOs should be about simulating and evolving virtual world with thousands of others. Not about simulating a single scene from a movie with a bunch of bots and instances.

  iridescence

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10/10/13 3:08:17 PM#46

On the plus side it does a good job of immersing you in the story. There is a ton of content and some of the classes are interesting (although getting less so probably with the upcoming generic talent trees). Many of the graphics are also well done especially for 2007, although the toons themselves look kind of goofy unfortunately. The writing is also very good if you're willing to read through it all. I'd say LOTRO did a better job of capturing its IP than SWTOR did despite much less voice acting. [Although admittedly I'm a much bigger fan of LOTR than SW.] 

On the negative side, I don't like the F2P model very much. Especially that they actually (used to?)  sell stuff in the cash shop to raise your character stats. That was one thing that made me quit the game, just left a bad taste in my mouth, despite having a lifetime sub and getting it all for free myself.  It also has some of the worst grinding I've seen (Don't like killing 10 wolves? try killing *500* which you have to do for your "virtues" in a few cases)  

So I'd say if you like the lore and the world it is worth a playthrough. If you don't care about Middle Earth and are just looking for a F2P MMO to play, something like Rift is much better though.

 

 

 

 

  Sovrath

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10/10/13 3:19:23 PM#47
Originally posted by DavisFlight

 

And if the majority of players liked stories in MMOs, SWTOR wouldn't have been the biggest failure in MMO history. And TSW wouldn't have failed. And AoC wouldn't have failed.

I really wish players would stop using specious reasoning.

"SWToR has stylistic graphics and it didn't do well so any game that has stylistic graphics won't do well. TSW was set in the modern world and it didn't do well so any game that is set in the Modern World won't do well."

"Age of Conan has more "adult themes" and an art design that favors a more brutal sexualized world and it didn't do well so any game that has these elements won't do well."

just silly, off the cuff examples but you get the point.

 

Or perhaps there is the actual truth.

SWToR was enjoyed by quite a lot of players who weren't looking for SWG 2 but there wasn't much to do with the game once you got to level cap therefore players left.

TSW is more of a "horror" game with puzzles/quests that require more effort on the part of the player. I remember thinking "good for them for creating a niche game they will probably get 250k players". And they got 300k players and called it a failure. Even though the writing was on the walls that it wouldn't appeal to vast audiences. "yes" horror books and movies get big draws but horror video games don't usually get huge amounts of people.

Age of Conan had huge issues, required higher end computers, Tortage was not indicative of the rest of the game, there were parts of the game that lacked content and what content you could find was not like the "acted out storied" presentation of level 1- 20.

 

You've got to look at the actual issues not elements that you don't like and therefore you think everyone else doesn't like them.

I do agree with your assessment of LOTRO though as far as it being "open" when the reality is there is a lot closed.

 

 

 

  Kazuhiro

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10/11/13 12:22:06 AM#48

LOTRO is one of the truely "free" to play mmos, in that you can sacrifice immense amounts of gametime doing repetitivive tasks to never have to pay a dime to play every bit of it. But unless your too young to have a job of any sort, it's like getting paid $0.01 an hour doing a menial task, still... they at least give you the option.

Now as for gameplay, that part it kinda sucks at, at least in my opinion, it just wasn't fun. I did love the monsterplay aspect of the game, before they killed it.

JeroKane: In TSW your gear has NO stats whatsoever! But only via trinkets and talismans.

Myself: Please, stop posting, I can't breath I'm laughing so hard at that statement.

  Po_gg

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10/11/13 2:57:42 AM#49
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Po_gg
Grouping is still there of course, there were changes indeed to help the solo gameplay but to call it "grouping is discouraged"... it's a bit of an exaggeration :)

haha WHAT?

Try to swim the Brandywine, you hit an invisible wall. Try to climb a mountain, invisible wall.

Find a dungeon? "You can't enter here without the right quest!" If you find one you can enter, it's instanced.

Find a building? Most you can't enter, the ones you can, require loading screens.

Archet is phased, as are many other areas. 

Want to explore? The game insta kills you if you explore certain regions, and locks others, unless you complete level 50 quests.


 

.... And then as soon as the quest step finishes, they'll degroup and wander away, because this game actively discourages grouping by not rewarding it.

True, I play more with friends and less with pugs, and maybe my english isn't top notch either, but to me "grouping discouraged" means that solo play is better, have more rewards, encouraged - which is clearly not the case, that's why I wrote exaggeration.

Grouping is still there, it's still fun, nothing changed on that matter, only solo play got a few more options and become easier. It's still the player's choice how s/he is playing, and if they are leaving the group, that's their decision, not the game's fault... Maybe that's just me, but I like games which are giving options and not forcing me into a playstyle. I supported IG because I believe forced grouping sucks big time. I'm still playing in groups, regardless of IG... It's only matter of choice.

 

To the first part, every gameworld has its borders :) usually with steep mountains, or rocks and waterfalls like with Bruinen on the southern part of the Trollshaws. In case of Brandywine, which is a wide and calm river, both would've been odd, so invisible wall it is, since there's no gameworld south of that.

Mountains, you can't climb the steep ones, but you can on the rest. I'm a big climber, and I agree it became restrictive during the years as Turbine closed all the routes and gaps... but it's still possible to climb most of them, just like the rooftops, etc :)

Instanced interiors, I wrote it earlier that I don't have a problem with those (maybe it's a matter of taste).

Archet tutorial is before the game's present time, that's why it's phased, just like the session plays. A few years ago dwarves and elves started the game with Skorgrím's death, which was hundreds of years before the game's present, -surprise- that was phased as well :)

Insta kill, both had backed with the story and was placed with a reason. There's a whole storyline to find a solution and counter it in Angmar's case (and the Lórien one is removed now, that needed only rep grind)

Edit: and I agree, Vanguard is more open.

  Neo_Viper

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If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

10/11/13 4:24:54 AM#50
Originally posted by Jaedor

LOTRO has some of the best environmental art around and remains true to the book lore while providing a way for the player to engage with the story.

Oh yes, true to the book lore... like with hobbits running all over the place, tanking Balrogs, elves riding through Bree on giant goats to have a drink at the Prancing Pony, a class named "Runekeeper" which farts more lightning than an angry Sith Lord, and to finish this nice picture, a group of random nobodies entering Orthanc and defeating Saruman in his own home.

Awesome respect of the book lore indeed.

It also has one of the friendliest and most generous player communities - anywhere. Good luck.

As long as you praise every aspect of their game, they are friendly indeed... they become pretty aggressive if you dare to point out a problem, like lag, the "pay to win" mechanism for legendaries, or even complain about the many lore breaches Turbine made. They are friendly as long as you agree with them that their game is perfect.

My computer is better than yours.

  CamShirayuki

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OP  10/11/13 5:09:37 AM#51

Well, first I'd like to say thanks for all of your replies. And I think I should address a few things.

 

The reason I'm playing LotRO, is because I have a, for the lack of better words, shitty computer. I can't play most high graphic MMO's and I don't really have much memory in my HDD. 

 

But, if any of you have a suggestion for an MMO I should be able to play if I can play LotRO, by all means, go ahead. I just want a good MMO thats fun and I can play often.

  Lithuanian

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10/11/13 5:42:08 AM#52
Originally posted by CamShirayuki
I don't have a lot of money, and Lord of the Rings is one of my favourites. How is this game on the F2P part? I've heard a lot about it, good and bad.

There would be always people with over-excited opinion("da best game ever!") or with too much scepticism. Decision is up to you.

My personal experience: you can be free player, enjoy all the content and still don't pay a penny.  You start game with the basic free quests and 4 free regions (Bree land, Shire, Ered Luin, Lonelands), basic wallet (up to 2 gold). Epic quests are free, at least up to Helm's Deep, they (epic quests) will guide from sunny Shire to grumpy Angmar to the fortress of Saruman and green fields of Rohan riders.

After Lonelands, you would want to purchase additional content and may pay with Turbine points. These are awarded for doing deeds, like slayer ("kill NN wolves"), exploration ("found points A, B, C"), reputation with factions, doing quests ("complete NN quests in this region"), sometimes - for meta-deeds ("complete deeds A-J in this region"; "become Kindred with factions A, B, C"). Standard deed usually gives 5 Turbine points, advanced - 10 points. Example: Bree land deeds gives some 150 Turbine points.

So far I have purchased much of the content, most time - using discounts, spent some 5000 Turbine points and spent 0 dollars and 0 cents.

My advice: give Lotro a try. Maybe you would want to choose Withywindle server so that my Dwarven Champion could aid you.

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  Neo_Viper

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10/11/13 6:00:19 AM#53
Be aware though that if you got the way Lithuanian describes, you're in for some horrible grinds to get the needed points.

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  Lithuanian

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10/11/13 6:35:59 AM#54

Well, additional content must be bought anyway - paying with ca$h or with time. I chose my time. However, situation is not that bad if one is to act wisely.

Example: reputation. From Friend to Kindred, it gives you some 50 Turbine points. Fact: there are some factions that accept certain items and gives +reputation if you use that item. Example: Rings of Numenor gives +700 reputatio to the Wardens of Annuminas reputation, while Black Badge gives +50 to Wardens of Annuminas reputation. Situation: any player in Annuminas city would be forced to fight his way through hordes of Angmarim, from soldiers to crossbowmen. There are deeds to kill Angmarim in Annumimas. So - gather items while questing/deeding and if you have 122 top-pevel rep.items, your next toon may reach Kindred (remember - 50 TPs?) in no time. Simple strategy requiring only to do deeds and do not use deed accelerator. Oh, have I forgotten Sarnur where various mobs drops reputation item? And repeatble quests that grant +reputation with Thorins Hall, and mobs themselves drop Thorins Hall reputation items?

Trust me, I created many toons, got quickly through intro quests, ran to Bree, used 3 factions items...and 150 TPs were mine. If I was to do only basic quests in Bree - I would earn ~300 Turbine points. Not too hard if one has patience.

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  ReaperUk

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10/11/13 6:36:30 AM#55
Originally posted by kyssari

First of all I didn't try LOTRO out for a long time because I was familiar with Dungeons and Dragons Online's abyssmal F2P model with Turbine Points and thought LOTRO would be pretty much the same. Luckily that is nowhere near the case at all and TP is far easier to earn in game than it is in DDO.

 

LOTRO's F2P isn't nearly as bad as most people here are making it sound by any means. It's true there are a number of things you'll really want to get from the cash shop as a F2P player but earning Turbine Points in game is pretty easy. By the time I reached the end of the free content (not counting the main epic story line which is always free regardless of which areas you own or don't) I had acquired more than enough TP ingame to buy a whole quest pack to continue on as well as riding skill and a good bit of TP left over. On top of that you can easily create throw away alts and making a quick farming run to earn 140 TP in about an hour and a half for your account.

 

That being said I would look at LOTRO more like a Buy2Play game with a really good free trial. You can easilly play to your 30s or so through the first bunch of areas which are compmletely free and if you really enjoy the game by that point you have a few options. You can do your deeds and farm TP to buy more content or you can dish out a little bit of cash to unlock virtually the entire game. Paying a mere $14.99 for 1 month of VIP gets you 500 TP, unlimited access to the game for that month and best of all, a whole lot of unlocks that are permanent for your account even after you cancel VIP and drop down to Premium (you'll go to premium instead of full f2p after spending any cash on the game). These unlocks include removal of the credit cap, access to all traits, 5 bag slots instead of 3, all swift travel routes unlocked, and a few other very useful things for any character you log on during this time. You'll also get a permanent 3rd character slot (and 2 more for a total of 5 if you ever buy moria xpac which is in the quadpack). In addition to that you can buy the expansion quadpack for $40 to get all 4 expansions which includes pretty much ALL content for lvl 50-85. The best part is the sales LOTRO constantly has, I was actually able to pick up the quadpack and get all 4 expansions for only $20 which was one hell of a deal. With the newest expansion getting real close I wouldn't be suprised in the least if the quadpack went on sale again or just straight up dropped in price.

 

All in all you can pretty much play compleyely free to mid 30s or so and then you can either grind xp and do just epic questline, take a lot of time and farm TP with throwaway alts, or spend $55 for virtually full access to the game without subbing. All depends on how much you enjoy the game and can afford to spend if you want to but either way I highly recommend at least trying it out through the areas that are completely free and any beyond that you can afford to buy with earned ingame TP.

This the most  accurate reply in the whole thread. Many others have varying degrees of misinformation.

I agree that to pay for a month's sub is a wise move for all the things it permanently unlocks. After that I would definitely advise not to sub unless you're bothered about getting every last minor detail of fluff that enttitles you to. Using the freemium method and just buying the content you need as you need it is far cheaper. You can get to around level thirty five without buying any quest packs.After that just buy the ones you want. Absolutely no need to buy them all as some have suggested. There is far more content available than you'll ever need if you simply want to level a character.

The world is mainly open with fast loading screens for the mini instances you'll encounter for some questss you'll encounter along the way. It's possible to go all the way from the Shire in the West to The Misty Mountains or Ergion in the East without any loading screens and that's probably a thirty minute journey even with a mount.

There are no instakill portals that you can't pass without paying money as has been suggested. Simply playing through the main storyline, which is completely free by the way, will unlock these.

You can work your way to the outskirts of Moria at level 50 by spending $50 or less without having to do any grinding for TP's.

After that, you don't have to buy expansions, you can simply carry on buying the quest packs you want which are much cheaper. If you do buy the expansions, you will get bonuses though, such as extra character slots, special mounts, armor etc. There are special offers all the time. The last time I looked in the shop last week it was possible to buy a job lot of previous expansions for a vastly reduced price.

As for the OP's follow up question about PC requirements. The game has been out six years now. The system requirements the time were quite high but what was a high end PC in 2007 would be quite a low end one now. I can't imagine there are many PC's that can't run it. I still have it installed on my backup PC which has a Core 2 Duo 3200 processor and it runs perfectly on that..

Just give it a try. It doesn't cost anything. Be warned the starter area is ridiculously easy. Don't judge the game by that, It doesn't really start until you're about level 9 or so.

 

  Neo_Viper

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10/11/13 7:10:41 AM#56
Originally posted by Po_gg
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

Every single building you can enter (when you can enter at all) has a loading screen indeed, even the smallest farm house. The interiors also never fit the outside design of the building.That definitely contributes to that amazing "open world" feeling this game provides...

(end of sarcasm)

 

PS: SoA isn't seamless either. You have a loading screen between The Shire and Ered Luin.

:) I mentioned it too, and 6 years ago seamless interiors weren't a common thing I guess.

WoW has seamless interiors and it's 9 years old...

Asheron's Call has seamless interiors and it's like 14 years old (and is a Turbine game).

Hell, even UO had them...

PS. There isn't any loading screen, just walk / ride up to Needlehole, follow the Water, through the bridge and you'll find yourself near Falathorn in Ered Luin. (the elven homesteads, next to Duillond)

There is a zoning border with a loading screen.

Not a big deal, but it's still there. I'd rather have the few zoning borders than having to load each time I enter a building to be honest. That has always been a pet peeve of mine.

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  Nadia

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10/11/13 7:17:05 AM#57
Originally posted by CamShirayuki

The reason I'm playing LotRO, is because I have a, for the lack of better words, shitty computer. I can't play most high graphic MMO's and I don't really have much memory in my HDD. 

But, if any of you have a suggestion for an MMO I should be able to play if I can play LotRO, by all means, go ahead. I just want a good MMO thats fun and I can play often.

I think playing LOTRO can be a fun choice

play it until you feel like trying other mmos

 

you should be able to run Vanguard, RIFT, EQ2 too -- just not on high settings

you may like Turbines other game, DDO

  Hariken

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10/14/13 8:51:07 PM#58
I'M coming to realize that there is no such thing as a f2p mmo. To the op, just look at some of the replies to your question. They tell you will have to spend money at some point in the game.  And lotro will ask you to spend money on screen any chance it gets. I haven't come across any real f2p AAA game's that don't make you to spend money. As you get higher in lvl you will have to. Your better off finding an old school game or bite the bullet and sub to a game. There are some old school game's out there that were either shut down and have an emulator or the code was sold to someone else to take over. I could name a couple but i don't know if i should here.
  Lord.Bachus

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10/14/13 11:45:07 PM#59

If you love tolkien stories, you realy need to play trough the content once...  

 

Its not hard, it took me to level 20 in one day, withouth dieing even once...

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations)
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10/15/13 12:11:53 AM#60

As I originally posted LOTRO is great to try out at least and if you like it enough spend some cash on to get the full experience. That being said however if you want a game that is completely F2P and can run easily on an older or lower end system Vanguard is one that is great to try out. You can easilly play it completely f2p from beginning to endgame and all without ever spending a dime. There are no content restrictions whatsoever and the world is incredbily massive. The ONLY restrictions a non paying player has in Vanguard really is being unable to equip high quality gear. This however is easily countered by the fact that you can buy item unlockers pretty cheap from other players off the AH for ingame gold to unlock items individually whenever you actually need to. Levelling its no big deal anyways as gear gets updated and replaced so fast anyways. The only other thing is that VIP members do get some increased xp rates but this is seriouslly no big deal at all. The world of Vanguard is so massive with so many places you can  go at all level ranges I have frequently turned my XP off while playing and I am a full f2p member with no XP boosts. There are also a lot of free +10% xp boosts you get from quests as you go and you can buy bigger ones off the AH as well if your eally wanted to. Thats the other cool thing with Vanguard, pretty much all of the useful cash shop items are tradeable and thus can be bought from other players off the AH and such.

 

In summation LOTRO is a lot of fun but to get the most out of it you really will ahve to dish a little cash out to experience it all at 50+ if not sooner. You could technically get all the 50+ content free but it'd take ages of grinding. As I mentioned in my original post I'd treat it more as a B2P game with arather long and good trial. If it doesn't work out for you however Vanguard is a very good game worth checking out as well that will never require you to spend a dime.

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