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  Kopogero

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OP  10/09/13 7:26:38 PM#1

At least the WOW killer didn't happen so I could go back to WOW and enjoy PvP. I did save a lot of $ by not being attracted to new MMORPG since DCUO (January 2011, for $35 with promo).

WOW did bleed subs and it was a wake up call. Now they fighting to keep the remaining subs at all cost, which is a good thing.

I also believe there won't be another Pandaria, Narnia or any new expansion with another big dragon to slay unless Blizzard is truly suicidal.

Paying $15 for PvP is obvioslly a ripoff, but Blizzard deserves it for the MMORPG they created and maintained and they are still improving it. They abandoned "Titan" and are focused on WOW more than ever in my opinion. With directx 11 enabled and SSAO the graphics look as good if not better than modern MMORPG's.

Bottom line, I'm happy with the state of the MMORPG genre. Bad MMORPG's dying and good ones remaining and improving, nothing new here. Now at least they are dying quicker than ever as the MMORPG market becomes more experienced with the genre.

Only MMORPG that captures my attention right now is Star Citizen (mainly based on word of mouth, but with it's budget it won't be the next WOW). Everything else like Everquest Next (which I really hope for the best) will flop hard for not truly understanding the concept of sandbox with the way its combat is designed.

 

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  ozmono

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10/09/13 7:30:16 PM#2

Are you happy with WoW or are you happy with the genre?

 

As to the question yes I am happy with the genre. So many more games than star citizen that have my interest too.

  DamonVile

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10/09/13 7:39:14 PM#3

I log into an mmo almost every day and play with friends. I'm not unhappy with the genre and don't think it's near as bad as ppl on this site seem to think.

Happy with it though ? Hard to say. Some games yes...most no. It's more  matter of picking the right ones for me instead of the old days when they were all good games for gamers.

  Avarix

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10/09/13 7:42:26 PM#4

^^ Also seems like it's just WoW that you're happy with. If it's the genre in general, you're a rarity (At least on this site). I think it's just you and Nariusseldon at this point.  I'm not happy with the longevity of current/recent releases. I am still waiting for a MMORPG that will keep me occupied for years that I find appealing. 

 

Hopefully the genre starts moving more towards long-term and social (Forced) games and I will once again be happy with the genre.

  Magiknight

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10/09/13 7:48:53 PM#5
How can you be a fan of Xenogears and WoW? ><
  Deivos

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Iarð skal rifna, ok upphiminn.

10/09/13 7:50:43 PM#6

I'm never happy.

 

As for MMOs, so-so. The genre has a long ways to go and many developers still need to experiment until they find the mechanics that capitalize on the potential of the MMO framework.

 

I remain fascinated by the genre, but it's still in large due to it's potential rather than it's reality. It's nice to see that some titles are reaching towards providing a more novel experience, but like the past has shown us, we need to see such things implemented and in action to see if they have been executed properly or are a flop.

 

So plenty of hope, but always at arms reach.

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  Homitu

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10/09/13 7:57:52 PM#7
Originally posted by Magiknight
How can you be a fan of Xenogears and WoW? ><

The same way I like both peanut butter and crab cakes.  

  ozmono

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10/09/13 7:58:09 PM#8
Originally posted by Avarix

^^ Also seems like it's just WoW that you're happy with. If it's the genre in general, you're a rarity (At least on this site). I think it's just you and Nariusseldon at this point.  I'm not happy with the longevity of current/recent releases. I am still waiting for a MMORPG that will keep me occupied for years that I find appealing. 

 

Hopefully the genre starts moving more towards long-term and social (Forced) games and I will once again be happy with the genre.

Well that's either very rude or very perceptive. You acknowledge you read my post in your first sentence than you mention the OP and someone who hasn't even chimed in yet as the only people on this site that are happy with it despite me clearly saying otherwise. In fairness though I am only really happy with trends, there seems to be more diversity on the horizon and that's what I am happy about more so than current games. I'm still waiting for the same thing you are.

  Magiknight

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10/09/13 8:02:36 PM#9
Originally posted by Homitu
Originally posted by Magiknight
How can you be a fan of Xenogears and WoW? ><

The same way I like both peanut butter and crab cakes.  

That's so wrong. YOU'RE so wrong!

  GeezerGamer

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Joined: 4/03/12
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10/09/13 8:03:56 PM#10
Originally posted by Homitu
Originally posted by Magiknight
How can you be a fan of Xenogears and WoW? ><

The same way I like both peanut butter and crab cakes.  

How is it on toast?

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Ender4

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Joined: 5/18/08
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10/09/13 8:59:37 PM#11

I still play them because they are my favorite type of game. The MMORPG genre itself is just awful right now. A bunch of WoW clones with stale concepts that largely flopped. Glad to see a new wave is at least attempting to do something different, hopefully some of them are good.

  xAPOCx

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10/09/13 9:07:12 PM#12
no

  jpnz

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10/09/13 11:02:00 PM#13
I am. Enjoying Swtor and gw2 mmo wise atm.

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  Panzerbase

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Joined: 3/20/13
Posts: 431

10/09/13 11:14:06 PM#14
I guess the enjoyment one receives from a game is unique to them, meaning to each his or her own. But, that being said I can say for my part I expected much more in terms of advancement in the field. WoW set the stage and the standard by which everyone should have tried to surpass, yet sadly when the day was done, mind you ten years later or so, not much has changed. Don't blame WoW, blame those who went after fast money. 
  Novusod

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Posts: 872

10/09/13 11:14:15 PM#15

Am I happy with mainstream WoW clones? Absolutely NOT. However, there are a few niche titles that are very good and keep me interested in the gaming industry. People tend to get too wrapped up in the negativity that comes with the hype + letdown cycle of big budget games. The smart thing to do is ignore those over hyped games and focus on finding games that are actually good. Currently I am playing Vindictus and Neverwinter because I think these games are good. Some people think those are bad games but that is not my problem because I don't let their opinion affect me.

 

I have been playing MMORPGs since the late 90s and I am having as much fun now as the good old days.

  Torvaldr

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10/09/13 11:18:55 PM#16
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Homitu
Originally posted by Magiknight
How can you be a fan of Xenogears and WoW? ><

The same way I like both peanut butter and crab cakes.  

How is it on toast?

Xenogears or WoW?

I'm not happy with everything, but I spend most of my gaming time in MMOs and the genre is better than it's ever been for me. So yeah, I'm generally happy with it. If I wasn't I wouldn't be playing and I wouldn't be here hanging out with other mmo players.

 

Curse you AquaScum!

  AlBQuirky

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Tomorrow's just a future yesterday...

10/09/13 11:37:44 PM#17

I am happy that many gamers are happy with the genre. Personally... No, not happy.

I do not see it changing anytime soon because of the 500+ MMOs listed on this site alone, all of them are making enough to stay running every month. If they were not, they would be closing down left and right. I see this as providing a lack of incentive to drastically change anything.

MMO publishers are comfy right where they are.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
- FARGIN_WAR

  baddog66

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Joined: 4/19/06
Posts: 36

10/10/13 12:00:14 AM#18
I think the behavior and language of many mmo players is getting worse. Many games have left this moderation unchecked and unchallenged and this is a mistake in my opinion. It has many players turning off broadcast chat channels out of disgust with the foul nature of the chat and that isn't helpful when the goal os most mmo's to to meet more and group more. BTW  this is not part of the mmo genre and we do not have to accept foul language and behavior on a wide scale. That is just an easy answer for many people sadly. This is just my opinion and what I observed from many of my guildies as well over the years.

GRIND DOES NOT EQUAL MAKING A GAME CHALLENGING!! YES I AM YELLING LOL

  Shadanwolf

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Posts: 1879

10/10/13 12:05:39 AM#19
Originally posted by Kopogero

At least the WOW killer didn't happen so I could go back to WOW and enjoy PvP. I did save a lot of $ by not being attracted to new MMORPG since DCUO (January 2011, for $35 with promo).

WOW did bleed subs and it was a wake up call. Now they fighting to keep the remaining subs at all cost, which is a good thing.

I also believe there won't be another Pandaria, Narnia or any new expansion with another big dragon to slay unless Blizzard is truly suicidal.

Paying $15 for PvP is obvioslly a ripoff, but Blizzard deserves it for the MMORPG they created and maintained and they are still improving it. They abandoned "Titan" and are focused on WOW more than ever in my opinion. With directx 11 enabled and SSAO the graphics look as good if not better than modern MMORPG's.

Bottom line, I'm happy with the state of the MMORPG genre. Bad MMORPG's dying and good ones remaining and improving, nothing new here. Now at least they are dying quicker than ever as the MMORPG market becomes more experienced with the genre.

Only MMORPG that captures my attention right now is Star Citizen (mainly based on word of mouth, but with it's budget it won't be the next WOW). Everything else like Everquest Next (which I really hope for the best) will flop hard for not truly understanding the concept of sandbox with the way its combat is designed.

 

Have you tried Dark Age of Camelot ? If faction vs faction fighting is your "thing".14 day free trial so no risk.

 

  Encephalitis

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Joined: 9/20/13
Posts: 59

10/10/13 12:12:09 AM#20
Originally posted by Deivos

I'm never happy.


I remain fascinated by the genre, but it's still in large due to it's potential rather than it's reality.

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