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  HighMarshal

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Joined: 7/24/03
Posts: 254

10/02/13 4:36:53 PM#41
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by XilentStorm
Originally posted by Razeekster

If this is a "world-wide" model count me and I'm sure many players out. Either make it buy to play with a cash shop like Guild Wars 2, F2P with a cash shop, or subscription based with no cash shop. 

 

The Russian model is ridiculous.

 

EDIT: To add onto this because people seem to be confused as I see comments like "This model looks pretty good to me" do you really want to compete with guilds that have the ability to level up all their members to lvl 50 through this system if they fork out enough cash? Because I do believe that was lost upon a quite a few people from the posts that I am seeing.

 

Indeed, and the gameplay will be equally bad if it's not localized in the slightest.

Trion did state that they were not going to localize (aka dumb down) the content.  However the jury is still out as to what the payment model will end up being for the English version.

 

Perhaps P2W is acceptable in Russia, but it would most certainly not go over well for NA / EU.

 

While, Mail.RU put buying labor points flat-out on the table, it still should be noted that it isn't Live yet (merely beta soon).  Trion should use this time to take some really good notes!

I believe World of Tanks is Russian and P2W and they made enough money to make two more games.

  Ozmodan

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10/02/13 4:41:20 PM#42

Just because it is the Russian model does not mean it will be used in the West.  If fact I really do not see Trion using this funding method at all.  It seems to me that the funding method will be up to Trion as they are the localizer.  Why would the locatization be taking so long if they were not doing their own funding model?

I think this is a lot of angst over nothing.

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

10/02/13 5:04:33 PM#43
Originally posted by Bacchira
I get less excited for this game every time I hear something new...

I was going to agree, but then I remembered I don't think I can get much less excited about this game.  Shame, it was one I showed to friends early on when we were waiting for something to play, now that the ideas are actually being implemented, they look boring, regardless of payment model.

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

10/02/13 5:05:36 PM#44
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Bacchira
I get less excited for this game every time I hear something new...

I was going to agree, but then I remembered I don't think I can get much less excited about this game.  Shame, it was one I showed to friends early on when we were waiting for something to play, now that the ideas are actually being implemented, they look boring, regardless of payment model.  It just took too long and there are better looking games on the horizon, and heck, even out already.

 

 

  InporylemQQ

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10/02/13 5:25:01 PM#45
Btw it's Inporylem with n. 

ArcheAge, Black Desert and Bless videos InporylemQQ Youtube

  Taranx

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Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 153

10/02/13 5:27:37 PM#46

I'm all over it as I try everything. I'll ignore the James Dean race cars and Beach Blanket Bingo parties and focus on what I enjoy

That is if it makes it over to NA in the next 365 days. After that it will old and crusty with newer titles and ideas to get excited about

  rojoArcueid

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Posts: 5803

"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

10/02/13 5:28:35 PM#47

will i play? mmmmh not as a sub-only game. If it has both b2p with cash shop and p2p option then yes i will play it.

 

idc about Russians or anyone else playing. Let everyone play. ITs an mmo, stop limiting the playerbase.

  Veja

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Joined: 10/02/13
Posts: 2

10/02/13 5:28:53 PM#48

Hi, guys, and i'm 2 from Russia. And i'm not like this hysterical insulting guys, who deals that "petition" (For what - many of peoples don't understand). Let's face this problem. Mail.ru have very bad reputation in Russia (i think someone know, that is the reason for this - Allods Online, p2w game (but this game don't be good at start - It has already developed like that)) and this system from XLGames in their performed quite simply lifted wave shit and inveterate hatred. Now, in Russia, we have no any information (and mail.ru too - they have only designer announcement - they have no build, have no anything - only words in paper), except the one that is at mail.ru announced Most probably fishing, but no information yet too), some quest's (for big scarecrow - 100%) and to territory owner on the north for rent (at 100%, and rated by THE KING NAME :) in the factions)

3) Old gold (bop) - all NPC items like seeds and other stuff, repair (don't know about vehicle), creating faction. Where to get - classic :)

4) Delphi stars (bop) (gold? I don't know, sry) transfers for d.dust (boe) and now obtained in all endgame craft's (more, that 200 item's. All siege vehicle have it in recipe), in siege auction.

We have no information about sources for Arks which were not included in the list (really - we have only 5-15% amount of inf), have no information 4ut rates/amount's and others. This is still in development in Corean and mail.ru give as information when they receive a build with this (If you don't know - we have no date for start to CBT =)) But this idiot's sparked a big conflict and when they do not have support from others (7k peoples against 350k subs for CBT. I don't think, that is real number, but not less that 170k real gamers) - going to you =)

  Veja

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Joined: 10/02/13
Posts: 2

10/02/13 5:45:10 PM#49

Sry, some glich with comment: 1) Crystall: buy: painting (houses/ships/cloak), transf between servers, arks. Bought for real money 2) Arks (boe): buy: prop taxes, cosmetic things, labor point restoration items (whis cd, not at start - only when bug with it will be fixed in Corean), it's only acceptable money for player's exchange (with auction too. You can start auction for "old" gold, but 10% rent - in arks), like Age of wulin silver. Where: RB (have no information about amount, but from all and 100% droprate (still in dev, XLGames)), professions - and my first message you can read now =)

I am writing this with only one purpose - you do not know mail.ru and have an unbiased view of things. I guarantee you that now begin the claim that I was a spy from mail.ru - but who to believe - your business. When there is more information - I think I can share with you.

 
  IceAge

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Joined: 8/23/05
Posts: 1023

10/02/13 5:50:51 PM#50
That's why we have Wildstar .. 

Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!

  yangdude

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Joined: 5/15/12
Posts: 68

10/02/13 5:59:08 PM#51

One thing that really seems to stand out here in this thread is this.  No one has yet said "This is such and awesome game....blah blah blah.....but the payment model is blah blah blah."

 

Irrespective of the payment model, it isn't sounding like a good game which is quite sad and for me that's enough to say No Thanks.

 

Unless the future discussions after game release make trying the game irresistible, this will just be another 'could have been..', and like others have said, competition is very stiff - they need something polished will the right payment model or everyone will wait for all the other titles which are on their way.

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4269

10/02/13 8:11:05 PM#52
Originally posted by yangdude

One thing that really seems to stand out here in this thread is this.  No one has yet said "This is such and awesome game....blah blah blah.....but the payment model is blah blah blah."

 

Irrespective of the payment model, it isn't sounding like a good game which is quite sad and for me that's enough to say No Thanks.

 

Unless the future discussions after game release make trying the game irresistible, this will just be another 'could have been..', and like others have said, competition is very stiff - they need something polished will the right payment model or everyone will wait for all the other titles which are on their way.

 Maybe the reason why nobody is saying this is an awesome game is because we are still waiting to play it?

  FlyinDutchman87

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Joined: 10/25/10
Posts: 184

10/02/13 8:14:53 PM#53

WoT is more than P2W.... It's P2Multi-player

 

You can't even play with a friend unless you sub...

 

Although the game is still ridiculously fun......

  Xthos

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Joined: 4/18/10
Posts: 2651

10/02/13 8:15:22 PM#54

IT all depends when it comes out, and what models they use for it....Since we don't know any of that, I cannot say if I will or won't.

 

I want to play, but if they try to rape your wallet, count me out.  I am fine with p2p, b2p with cosmetic, and f2p with sub that negates cash shop (minus cosmetic).

  jesteralways

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Joined: 3/17/13
Posts: 689

10/02/13 9:17:25 PM#55
Originally posted by alkarionlog
Originally posted by jesteralways
archeage korea and china are making lots of money with f2p model even though the  game is still in beta there. heard from a chinese friend that publisher are renting game real estate to players, players explore and find suitable place for building their own home; which can even be turned into cities, then they buy space from publisher and create whatever they like. and the publisher also charge monthly for that space. those who wants open world housing to be mainstream this is just their game but will they be paying the enormous amount of money(at least in china) to keep their city?    

so youa re saying arche age is the biggest money grab scam of this decade?

 

and serious that is why we don't get any good MMO for years, they make cash grabs, not even hide this fact anymore, with half the effort they did before, just toss a pretty skin on it and all you guys give your money saying they deserve for half work they did? serious even SWTOR ahve a better f2p plan then this....

 

when players will learn?

They don't ask 20$ for one time usage dye, they don't charge for looting dungeons, they don't  charge to do raids, they don't charge players to show titles or hide their head slots, only thing that is annoying about their f2p model is "labor point restriction" and a player can go without building house or castle, these building options are solely for hardcore RPGers. And even though they ask money for "labor point" it is not as outrageous as prices in SWToR cartel market. NO, SWToR DOES NOT have better f2p model than AA.

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  darkhalf357x

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Joined: 1/25/12
Posts: 1126

I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

10/02/13 10:39:39 PM#56

Payment model is fine. The arguments against it are mostly personal. I think they make it sound more complicated than it actually is.  I don't care if someone else spends money to go to max level. Hell do all your alts. Go nuts. Only concern I have is PvP.  If max people just kill low level people I'm out.  Not the experience I'm looking for.  Just give me a sandbox with fun stuff to do in it.  Give me deep character progression. ROTFLOL! I know. That ain't happenin' but its what I want. Give me a distant second.

If I had to sum it up... 

It sort of feels like that game you REALLY wanted to play a long time ago and never got to ita.  Lack of a playable instance has eroded some of it's appeal.  But I'm still interested in playing just to see... 

WTF Trion?

  BTrayaL

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10/02/13 10:55:05 PM#57
Looks like the Firefall model they will implement, with VIPs.. I don't mind it.

  Hanthos

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Joined: 6/17/13
Posts: 228

PROUD P2P Elitist...

10/02/13 11:34:19 PM#58
It depends on Trion. if it's F2P or some other goofy cash grab scheme I will have to chalk up two years wasted waiting on it and move on. Box and sub have always worked fine for me and keeps the dev staff working on the game, not supplying vanity items to a useless shop.
  gatheris

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10/02/13 11:42:24 PM#59

personally i think Trion has already killed the game by their complete silence - absolutely no when why what where or how - nothing

 

but hey, that is good for Rift isn't it?

  cyrician

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10/03/13 1:05:00 AM#60
Been watching the twitch tv version of this game . Apart from it being in Japan or somewhere like that the game looks very like what we have already seen style like Aion with aspects if gw2.

I must admit I have been changed if late , I have given up most my subs and am back playing lotro mainly for storyline.

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