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  DMKano

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9/27/13 9:56:31 AM#21
[mod edit]

I didn't misquote anything, also why are you resorting to name calling is beyond me. My text is clearly in green - for some reason Android OS cannot reply under a box - its a bug that happens on this site on my tablet - this is why I change the color because I can't type anything below the box. 

 

  SpottyGekko

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9/27/13 10:04:39 AM#22



Originally posted by BMBender



OK I'm not arguing for or against the ultimate success/failure of FF.  But isn't it a tad pre-mature to be making sweeping statements barely a month past re-launch? TOR at this point still had over a mil subs.




 

 


All depends on your viewpoint, of course.


 


I see it this way:




"TOR at this point had already lost almost half of it's players from launch"





 

  BMBender

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9/27/13 10:11:58 AM#23
Originally posted by SpottyGekko



Originally posted by BMBender



OK I'm not arguing for or against the ultimate success/failure of FF.  But isn't it a tad pre-mature to be making sweeping statements barely a month past re-launch? TOR at this point still had over a mil subs.




 

 


All depends on your viewpoint, of course.


 


I see it this way:




"TOR at this point had already lost almost half of it's players from launch"





 

I'm not disputing that I just feel it's a bit early to be saying it's a success   it's a failure.  Then the whole gameplay the biggest detractor statement in the same article it's called a success feels odd.  Maybe it's just me but game play is a reflection of enjoyment/satisfaction derived from playing the game.  Which I always thought was the whole point of playing games...silly me

  TiamatRoar

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9/27/13 10:25:29 AM#24
It's a glowing review that says everything else is good, but says gameplay is "the biggest detractor" and basically also says there's nothing that can be done by Square to improve the gameplay (or that they've given up trying, presumably because it'd be too hard or impossible).  That's.... kinda disconcerting, I think.
  Hatefull

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9/27/13 10:34:07 AM#25


Originally posted by Theocritus
If at first you dont succeed, copy as much from WoW as you can the next time.......

Have you logged into the game? I would be very interested in your FFXIV - WoW comparison. The only thing I see they have in common is quests. Very interested in how you compare these two very dissimilar games.

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  Hyanmen

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9/27/13 10:36:45 AM#26
Originally posted by BMBender

I'm not disputing that I just feel it's a bit early to be saying it's a success   it's a failure.  Then the whole gameplay the biggest detractor statement in the same article it's called a success feels odd.  Maybe it's just me but game play is a reflection of enjoyment/satisfaction derived from playing the game.  Which I always thought was the whole point of playing games...silly me

Have you ever played a Final Fantasy game? The gameplay is not the strong point of those titles.

Audiovisuals, story, strong presentation matters much, much more.

Granted, even with a 7 this game can challenge an MMO player just like any other MMO. So I don't think the 7 has to do with the difficulty level, unless the reviewer wants to give every MMO since 2005 a 7 in gameplay.

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  SgtPepperUK

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9/27/13 10:38:53 AM#27

As long as we get content updates every 3-4 months I think the sub is more than justified. On the off-chance I run out of things to do I have a big list of Steam sale buys to keep me going :)


 


Also interesting that you make the comparison to TSW.


 


Firstly, TSW's problems wasn't simply keeping the numbers they need, it was getting those numbers in the first place, with its first quarter's sales being very, very poor to the point of almost destroying FunCom.


 


Secondly, the sub fee for FFXIV is much better priced than TSW's, at least for UK players, TSW's sub price is pretty high. FFXIV can cost as little as £7.39 a month or £8.99 for the option with more character slots. Compares favourably to TSW's £11.49 per month. Even with multiplan options FFXIV's 6 months sub still marginally beats TSW's 12 month sub (£7.39 vs £7.99).


 


Lastly, TSW's content updates a) weren't all that big and b) soon started to fall off schedule. Those promised monthly updates have become 7 updates in 14 months, with the last one being almost 3 months ago. If SE sticks to 3 or 4 major contents a year that's good enough for me.


Think about it, nobody wants to die, there's rules to this game son, I'm justified.

  BMBender

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9/27/13 10:40:29 AM#28
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by BMBender

I'm not disputing that I just feel it's a bit early to be saying it's a success   it's a failure.  Then the whole gameplay the biggest detractor statement in the same article it's called a success feels odd.  Maybe it's just me but game play is a reflection of enjoyment/satisfaction derived from playing the game.  Which I always thought was the whole point of playing games...silly me

Have you ever played a Final Fantasy game? The gameplay is not the strong point of those titles.

Audiovisuals, story, strong presentation matters much, much more.

Granted, even with a 7 this game can challenge an MMO player just like any other MMO. So I don't think the 7 has to do with the difficulty level, unless the reviewer wants to give every MMO since 2005 a 7 in gameplay.

since when did gameplay = purely  challenge

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  Azorith

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9/27/13 10:42:25 AM#29

Originally posted by Rockniss

Good scoreing and right on with that ability lag. I really really wish that it wasnt present, I cant get past it, but if you're someone who can, this is a great place to call home.

Those of you having issues with ability lag, I would recommend downloading Leatrix Latency Fix. It increases the frequency of TCP packet sending, and reduces the effect of that lag tremendously.


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  drivendawn

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9/27/13 10:44:34 AM#30
Very close to the score I thought it should have - 8.3
  azonic69

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9/27/13 10:47:04 AM#31
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by Rockniss
Good scoreing and right on with that ability lag. I really really wish that it wasnt present, I cant get past it, but if you're someone who can, this is a great place to call home.

I don't know what crappy internet you people have but i have zero skill lag and i play from Europe. Maybe want to check out your provider.

Dude, EVERYONE has the ability lag, that you can't see it or understand what it is doesn't mean that it's not there. [mod edit]

  bcbully

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9/27/13 10:53:03 AM#32

How does mmorpg define innovation? FF was given a 7, but then Wushu was given a 7 also.. Is innovation solely based on the reviewer's opinion?

 

No knock on FF, it is what it is, and FF fans are happy for it, but there's certainly a magnitude of difference in the innovation department between these two games.

  BMBender

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9/27/13 10:54:28 AM#33
Originally posted by bcbully

How does mmorpg define innovations? FF was given a 7, but then Wushu was given a 7 also.. Is innovation solely based on the reviewers opinions?

 

No knock on FF, it is what it is, and FF fans are happy for it, but there's certainly a magnitude of difference in the innovation department between these two games.

I get the feeling they make them up as they go along with no standardization rhyme nor reason.

 

These types of articles are certainly not in danger of being confused with a consumer report or a car and driver article.  :D

 

EDIT if this was a car review it would read IT LOOKS GREAT the upholstery is top notch, it gets the same mileage and provides the same features as it's competitors(innovation), it looks like a Ferrari but drives like an out of tune Pinto(gameplay) we give it 4 out of 5 stars....uh what?

  ThumbtackJ

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9/27/13 10:58:27 AM#34
Originally posted by DMKano

Aesthetics IMO should be 9 (textures are really bad in some spots - no way this deserves 10) longevity should be 8 - social 7.

Innovation 7? Why? IMO should be 6.

Overall the score IMO is around 7.3, again the game was scored too generous.

Its a good game just scored about 1 point too high.

 

While there is a difference between aesthetics and graphics, I would have to agree that some of the poor textures should affect the scoring of that a little. 

 

But yeah, as of right now, I agree, ~7.5 would have been more accurate, IMHO. We'll see how things go after 2.1 drops I suppose.

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  psychosiszz

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9/27/13 10:59:47 AM#35
Bit of a high score. I was bored of the game by Level 40. The storyline was rubbish, quests boring and the game was just too easy. The crafting system was fun, but pointless as the items you get from dungeons and quests are better. End game is just PVE raiding.
  Hyanmen

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9/27/13 11:08:18 AM#36
Originally posted by psychosiszz
Bit of a high score. I was bored of the game by Level 40. The storyline was rubbish, quests boring and the game was just too easy. The crafting system was fun, but pointless as the items you get from dungeons and quests are better. End game is just PVE raiding.

Aye, I agree. They really should use two different metrics for their reviews.

1. The general score, for everyone out there.

2. The MMO gamer score, 3 points lower at least.

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  snoocky

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9/27/13 11:11:42 AM#37
It's a nice game, but really not to pay for....
  orbitxo

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9/27/13 11:25:54 AM#38

to those curious abt the game.


 


yes FF has a huge legacy following. but if your looking for the same look and feel.


TERA  gives them a run for their money literally as its F2p.


  Sagremor

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9/27/13 11:28:01 AM#39

FF14 is a nice game but not worth paying 15$ / month to continue playing. GW2 was a B2P with more world to explorer and more content at launch. Unfortunaltely, I couldn't stand the "no healer" thing as I mostly play an healer class. 




Things in FF14 that should have been there at launch :






  • Search box in crafting / hunting log


  • Search box in inventory / armory


  • A dressing room


  • More than 1 color on an armor for dye. 


  • Report for gold spammers and blacklist with a click.


  • Items comparision (can't tell if the new item have more Piety by checking the tooltip is annoying)


  • Item linking



On top of that, the long GCD of 2.5 seconds and the ability lag is painful. 


 


Crafting is awesome tho... gotta give SE that but it won't have me sub...!!!

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  KingAlkaiser

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9/27/13 11:33:49 AM#40

score was a bit too generous in my opinion.  Did reviewer even hit level 50 and try game after that? thats were a lot of the complains start coming in.

 

this game is a solid 7 tops, id rate it a 6/10 myself

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