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Black Desert

Black Desert 

General Discussion  » This game looks good but.

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  Renoaku

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Joined: 2/10/07
Posts: 956

 
OP  9/17/13 2:47:57 PM#1

Based on snap-shots which I have seen on the internet, and videos it is nothing more than you're average RPG game with polished graphics.

The Skill UI itself based on snap-shots looks like Guild Wars the original game.

The game-play itself looks and feels like you're average game based on videos like TERA.

But the million Dollar Question is.

I bet that this game if Pay 2 Play,  Will also still require players who want things like.

1.Player Housing

2. Character Customization

3. Player Housing Customization

To pay additional fees for changing, or editing these type of things because the game comes from Korea? 

Aion & TERA have both done this they were both F2P games now which I don't even bother playing because of the amount of bugs they have and overpriced cash shop items.

I wonder if Black Desert, will be the exact same way.

 

  koboldfodder

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/18/04
Posts: 367

9/17/13 2:56:44 PM#2

It's an Asian MMO, so expect to see Asian MMO stuff in there.  It's a Korean game as well, so expect to see bizarre Korean stuff in there as well.  Play ArcheAge and that is kind of how this game will play/feel.

 

It's also a pretty strange title when you think about it.  Black Desert?  That just sounds odd.

 

While the game looks good, the combat does not look like it belongs in the gameworld.  It's nothing but fast, arcade type of combat with people in heavy armor flipping in the air 30 times with a sword the size of a car.

  Renoaku

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Joined: 2/10/07
Posts: 956

 
OP  9/17/13 3:03:36 PM#3

Yeah I dunno I am just hoping for a new good graphic game that doesn't have a Pay 2 Enjoy cash-shop with subscription like.

Arch Age, or Black Desert.

So far I am playing Albion Online as a sand-box game seems great although its not exactly an action based game but still better than every sand-box I have currently played for a long time.

What is worse is when you pay $50 for a new game or $100 if you are like me and bought the Tera Collectors just to find out that the game is going to be pay 2 enjoy, lies to its customers who purchase the game, and similar things because if so I would rather not buy the game anyways if they were straight up front honest they are going to put such aspects into the game for additional enjoyment at cost of real money.

But its a serious question if anyone has actual details on black desert if its going to be fully Sand-Box based game with All content including Re-customization of characters freely part of the game at no additional charge and player housing for example without the pay 2 enjoy fee on top of the subscription.

  xAPOCx

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Joined: 10/25/12
Posts: 887

9/17/13 6:46:06 PM#4
Originally posted by Renoaku

Based on snap-shots which I have seen on the internet, and videos it is nothing more than you're average RPG game with polished graphics.

The Skill UI itself based on snap-shots looks like Guild Wars the original game.

The game-play itself looks and feels like you're average game based on videos like TERA.

But the million Dollar Question is.

I bet that this game if Pay 2 Play,  Will also still require players who want things like.

1.Player Housing

2. Character Customization

3. Player Housing Customization

To pay additional fees for changing, or editing these type of things because the game comes from Korea? 

Aion & TERA have both done this they were both F2P games now which I don't even bother playing because of the amount of bugs they have and overpriced cash shop items.

I wonder if Black Desert, will be the exact same way.

 

What is the question? All i see are 25 cent statements. Also you do know that the payment models in Korea and the US are different right? And not to mention that nothing about the payment model has been discussed yet. The game looks great. That's all we know. Not how its plays. Not how housing will truly works. Not how the payment model will work. Not how crafting works. Not how the economy will work. A lot of questions, very little answers

  DMKano

Elite Member

Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 5172

9/17/13 6:52:28 PM#5

This game is long ways off, I've seen a leaked gameplay video on a Korean site (not a dev playing)
Honestly it was underwhelming. Pearl Abyss is great at putting great looking trailers.

  Bigmamajama

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/18/13
Posts: 206

9/17/13 7:09:43 PM#6
Originally posted by koboldfodder

It's an Asian MMO, so expect to see Asian MMO stuff in there.  It's a Korean game as well, so expect to see bizarre Korean stuff in there as well.  Play ArcheAge and that is kind of how this game will play/feel.

 

It's also a pretty strange title when you think about it.  Black Desert?  That just sounds odd.

 

While the game looks good, the combat does not look like it belongs in the gameworld.  It's nothing but fast, arcade type of combat with people in heavy armor flipping in the air 30 times with a sword the size of a car.

You left out the trash can lid sound effects and squeaky voices with every pull of the bow or swing of the sword,  HIk  Hik Hik Hik Hik Hik HIk.......

 

Based on how nice the game world looks I was hoping they wouldn't have 8 bit spaztastic arcade game action, but I guess that's what the kids like.

  drakaena

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/11/06
Posts: 508

9/17/13 7:33:53 PM#7
I am willing to overlook quite a bit if someone/anyone can deliver a seamless open world, third person loot drop, territorial control, PvP centric game.

ArcheAge big failing in Korea was an over abundance of safe zones crippling owPvP. Or so I've read.
  psychosiszz

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/18/05
Posts: 43

9/18/13 8:35:22 AM#8
Originally posted by drakaena
I am willing to overlook quite a bit if someone/anyone can deliver a seamless open world, third person loot drop, territorial control, PvP centric game.

ArcheAge big failing in Korea was an over abundance of safe zones crippling owPvP. Or so I've read.

/Agree

From this interview its looking good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhEQNkvsTpg

ArcheAge probably also failed because of those racing cars and anime posters that you can put on the side of your house :/

 

  Grammie

Novice Member

Joined: 5/10/10
Posts: 69

9/22/13 12:01:56 PM#9
Pretty nasty for saying nothing of interest to your readers...
  DMKano

Elite Member

Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 5172

9/26/13 7:52:36 PM#10
Originally posted by Dontneed
Originally posted by psychosiszz
Originally posted by drakaena
I am willing to overlook quite a bit if someone/anyone can deliver a seamless open world, third person loot drop, territorial control, PvP centric game.

ArcheAge big failing in Korea was an over abundance of safe zones crippling owPvP. Or so I've read.

/Agree

From this interview its looking good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhEQNkvsTpg

ArcheAge probably also failed because of those racing cars and anime posters that you can put on the side of your house :/

 

I was in Archage beta test, I don't know about 'end game' stuff but it was a completely them-parked game at early 'level'. The fact I had to 'level up' in a 'theme park' world, made me quit trying this game in like 15 minutes. Basically it was same as wow in many aspect. Archage was not what we are expecting from Black Desert. That was why it failed, not just because of some racing cars and other similar stuffs.

XL Games is working on completely removing the early themeparks quests - as that was the #1 complaint in Korea - 30 levels of tutorial was a mistake so by the time Trion releases it - should be gone from the game. I hope Trion can comment on this as this info is Korean, I don't think its made it across the ocean yet.

The version we'll see in US/EU won't have those themepark quests.

I've been playing on Korean servers for a long time, the game is one of the most engrossing and immersive games I've played since EQ1 back in 1999. The freedom  and amount of stuff you can do in ArcheAge is epic - so getting through the early themepark experience is worth it as the game world completely opens up after level 30 - still I am glad that XL will remove the themepark elements from the game.

 

 

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

9/26/13 8:03:08 PM#11

I didn't like the presentation at all.  Perhaps this could be refined over the next 3 years til release?  It just looks like another action-adventure game masquerading as an MMORPG?  Vindictus 2.0?

 

I hate the combat style with the blur effects everytime something happens.  I mentioned it before, not to beat a dead horse, but they give me a headache just watching trailers for this game, let alone playing it oneday.

 

Beyond that .. much graphics fluff to hide gameplay .. and a huge resemblance to modern beat-em-up, whoop-te-doo! hero style single player MMORPG's.  I'm important, wheeee!!  Not saying that is how it will end up, just a resemblance.

 

Gameplay > Graphics .. but well see.  I do note that the advertisers are trying very hard, which is a red flag for me.

 

 

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  bcbully

Elite Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7202

9/26/13 9:16:39 PM#12
The game looks good but... enough with the eye candy! Hope it has some meat.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  zetsu1

Novice Member

Joined: 9/30/13
Posts: 3

10/01/13 4:26:27 PM#13
Originally posted by Renoaku

Based on snap-shots which I have seen on the internet, and videos it is nothing more than you're average RPG game with polished graphics.

The Skill UI itself based on snap-shots looks like Guild Wars the original game.

The game-play itself looks and feels like you're average game based on videos like TERA.

But the million Dollar Question is.

I bet that this game if Pay 2 Play,  Will also still require players who want things like.

1.Player Housing

2. Character Customization

3. Player Housing Customization

To pay additional fees for changing, or editing these type of things because the game comes from Korea? 

Aion & TERA have both done this they were both F2P games now which I don't even bother playing because of the amount of bugs they have and overpriced cash shop items.

I wonder if Black Desert, will be the exact same way.

 

 

 

99.99% chance to be a f2p

 

and you can't build a house, you buy a house.

  superconducting

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/21/13
Posts: 705

10/01/13 5:44:17 PM#14
Originally posted by Karteli

I didn't like the presentation at all.  Perhaps this could be refined over the next 3 years til release?  It just looks like another action-adventure game masquerading as an MMORPG?  Vindictus 2.0?

 

I hate the combat style with the blur effects everytime something happens.  I mentioned it before, not to beat a dead horse, but they give me a headache just watching trailers for this game, let alone playing it oneday.

 

Beyond that .. much graphics fluff to hide gameplay .. and a huge resemblance to modern beat-em-up, whoop-te-doo! hero style single player MMORPG's.  I'm important, wheeee!!  Not saying that is how it will end up, just a resemblance.

 

Gameplay > Graphics .. but well see.  I do note that the advertisers are trying very hard, which is a red flag for me.

 

 

This is precisely my thought.

In the new videos posted on the other thread http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/944/view/forums/thread/397272/Black-desert-new-videos-.html, the gameplay looks awful and nothing special- like your average MMO; like NW and possibly even worse. Very disappointing to see.

I'm not all that surprised since all we had seen at first was a mindblowing cinematic. Cinematic is the key word. Now we know the game plays no different than every fast-paced actiony nonsense that has tanked after release. And the rapidly dropping hypemeter reflects it. I mean, what did you expect something other than your usual generic Korean churnout?

  Bigmamajama

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Joined: 6/18/13
Posts: 206

10/01/13 7:17:08 PM#15

The game world looks beautiful but the amount of screen shake and screen distortion on attacks makes it unplayable for me.  How could anyone put up with that for an extended period of time without a migraine.

An option to disable all that crap needs to be mandatory.

  Boneserino

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Joined: 12/08/07
Posts: 736

10/06/13 10:03:00 AM#16
Originally posted by Bigmamajama

The game world looks beautiful but the amount of screen shake and screen distortion on attacks makes it unplayable for me.  How could anyone put up with that for an extended period of time without a migraine.

An option to disable all that crap needs to be mandatory.

Add me to the list here.  I would definitely have to be a crafter in this game because the combat just looks like another game entirely! 

Why they would make a world with such realistic detail and then throw in Disney with ADD  combat animations is beyond me.   But hey, Archage pulled the same stunt, so we know its what the Asian audience wants in their games.  

A disable option sounds like a good idea to me.

FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  moura23

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Joined: 10/08/13
Posts: 3

10/08/13 2:20:53 PM#17
This game looks good but i preffer Archeage.