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  SBFord

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OP  9/25/13 6:47:25 PM#1

Jagex has announced that Runescape Bonds will be introduced into the game as a way to eliminate gold farmers once and for all. Jagex has taken an assertive stand against gold farming and has removed over three trillion gold from the game. More than 40% of players buy gold in any month, something Jagex feels is unacceptable. To combat that statistic, Bonds are incoming. Check out this informative video and then tell us what you think.


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  Prodigy152

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9/25/13 7:24:28 PM#2

Looks pretty much like the system EVE has with PLEX...man, havn't played RS in years.

It's also pretty crazy that 40% of the playerbase is buying gold like that. Must be why so many items are crazy expensive with all that cash in the system and being bought.

  wangkom

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9/25/13 11:01:09 PM#3
And this prevents gold farmers for selling gold how? they are just gonna sell their gold for way cheaper then the price of bonds, and they are still gonna make money.
  Mtibbs1989

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9/25/13 11:06:02 PM#4
How about those idiots actually monitor the game and MAC ban them? It's only a matter of seconds for a MAC address be be eliminated from accessing their services. Jagex is just banking off of gold selling.


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  tkoreaper

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9/25/13 11:20:33 PM#5
I don't see how this helps anything... Sure they get rid of gold sellers, but Jagex becomes one themselves >.< How the fuck does that fix the economy?
  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

9/25/13 11:34:15 PM#6

Bah his explanation did NOTHING at all to say nothing at all.

All he is saying is that they have some new RMT item they want you to buy,how is selling an rmt item going to remove rmt gold sellers?

So much is unclear but sounds like a gold sink to buy the time,well the rmt farmers who will have bots and even  more gold than players will be able to buy even more items/Bonds and sell them instead.

So now instead of players buying gold from some rmt site they will buy Bonds.I bet those items sell for more than they are worth just like EQ2's similar system.

Here is a funny and odd thing,if they know the numbers so well they must be able to track all the rmt easily,so then what is the problem?OK first of all it is free to play,so you will NEVER stop rmt botters,they will immediately add a new account right after you ban them.MOST rmt are smart enough to use new accounts to spread the sales and keep vet botters for farming.

This is VERY simply a new marketing gimmick to a game that has a really bad structure,this game should serve as the perfect proof that f2p is a horrible business structure for games,well unless you love cheating and botting and RMT.

 

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  wangkom

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9/26/13 12:48:55 AM#7

Its more like:

We have now found a new and better way to make money, instead of letting all the farmers take the profit from our game

Tera did similar thing and it failed, didnt stop gold sellers at all.
 
  DamonVile

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9/26/13 1:00:34 AM#8
If 40% of your players are buying gold, you should be looking at how the game is designed not trying to stop the players solution.
  SpottyGekko

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9/26/13 1:27:28 AM#9

Fighting goldsellers is not particularly difficult, it's just quite expensive to do, because the only effective way to do it is with real people.

 

But no game company wants to double or triple or even quadruple their payroll bills. It's more than some of them could afford anyway. So they try to do "the best that they can", which is slapping bandaids on a sucking wound.

 

This system will most likely do very little to the 3rd-party RMT in the game. Those guys will simply undercut the game developer. The goldsellers will always be "better value" than the actual game company, which is why you'll find them in all F2P games as well.

 

There is only ONE way to significantly reduce (not end) 3rd party RMT in an MMO: "Remove the ability for players to do any form of trade with each other."

  Purutzil

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9/26/13 2:25:51 AM#10

So... the blizzard "D3" method of combating gold selling eh? Pretty sure that hurt the game...

Nice try coating in YOU selling YOUR OWN game gold as being a way to combat gold sellers. You know people can easily see through this right?

  kosac

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9/26/13 2:33:46 AM#11
i dont care, maybe in RuneScape10
  Seelinnikoi

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9/26/13 3:40:52 AM#12

LOL! Are they stupid or what?

So now you can buy that bong item that gives you all this, with your in-game wealth... which means in-game gold... which means people will still buy gold!

 

  Seelinnikoi

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9/26/13 3:44:48 AM#13

Oh and check the comments on youtube, they are being moderate AKA only praise comments allowed lool

 

  caiozet

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9/26/13 5:11:24 AM#14
That is not true, they did ban millions of players just this year for botting and gold farming. Do a little more research.
  caiozet

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9/26/13 5:15:36 AM#15
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

LOL! Are they stupid or what?

So now you can buy that bong item that gives you all this, with your in-game wealth... which means in-game gold... which means people will still buy gold!

 

 

They won't be buying gold, because bonds aren't a gold fountain, players only trade bonds between each other, so they are transferring, not creating gold.

  caiozet

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9/26/13 5:18:04 AM#16
Originally posted by SpottyGekko

Fighting goldsellers is not particularly difficult, it's just quite expensive to do, because the only effective way to do it is with real people.

 

But no game company wants to double or triple or even quadruple their payroll bills. It's more than some of them could afford anyway. So they try to do "the best that they can", which is slapping bandaids on a sucking wound.

 

This system will most likely do very little to the 3rd-party RMT in the game. Those guys will simply undercut the game developer. The goldsellers will always be "better value" than the actual game company, which is why you'll find them in all F2P games as well.

 

There is only ONE way to significantly reduce (not end) 3rd party RMT in an MMO: "Remove the ability for players to do any form of trade with each other."

 

Exactly, Jagex did that before, but the players complained, a lot, so they re-enabled trading in the game.

  caiozet

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9/26/13 5:28:57 AM#17
Originally posted by Wizardry

Bah his explanation did NOTHING at all to say nothing at all.

All he is saying is that they have some new RMT item they want you to buy,how is selling an rmt item going to remove rmt gold sellers?

So much is unclear but sounds like a gold sink to buy the time,well the rmt farmers who will have bots and even  more gold than players will be able to buy even more items/Bonds and sell them instead.

So now instead of players buying gold from some rmt site they will buy Bonds.I bet those items sell for more than they are worth just like EQ2's similar system.

Here is a funny and odd thing,if they know the numbers so well they must be able to track all the rmt easily,so then what is the problem?OK first of all it is free to play,so you will NEVER stop rmt botters,they will immediately add a new account right after you ban them.MOST rmt are smart enough to use new accounts to spread the sales and keep vet botters for farming.

This is VERY simply a new marketing gimmick to a game that has a really bad structure,this game should serve as the perfect proof that f2p is a horrible business structure for games,well unless you love cheating and botting and RMT.

 

 

That is also wrong, since Botany Bay earlier this year, and the introduction of JAG, Jagex is completely aware of how many accounts there are per IP, so they also ban the IP itself.

And players aren't buying gold from Jagex in any way, they are buying from the other players, through the trading of the Bonds, so they are basically legalizing rather than creating a way for players to buy gold from the company. And they are legalizing something that half the players already do.

So Jagex is doing the same as many countries are with drugs and drug trafficking, they are legalizing it, and selling it themselves.

 
  SpottyGekko

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9/26/13 6:16:05 AM#18

Ironically, the struggle for F2P games is not in combatting currency or item sales for real money, the struggle is how to make players do it more !

 

Of course, once you have gotten the players completely used-to buying things in your game with real money, the REAL struggle begins: How to make sure the players spend those real dollars with YOU, not your ingame competitors !

 

 

  aspekx

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9/26/13 7:58:46 AM#19

i'm glad they're trying something to actually combat this.

 

however, its hilarious that he's talking like a politician or a doctor speaking to you about a life threatening illness.

 

illness IS serious.

 

gold farming? not so much in the same league of 'serious'.

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  Seelinnikoi

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9/26/13 8:11:34 AM#20
Originally posted by caiozet
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

LOL! Are they stupid or what?

So now you can buy that bong item that gives you all this, with your in-game wealth... which means in-game gold... which means people will still buy gold!

 

 

They won't be buying gold, because bonds aren't a gold fountain, players only trade bonds between each other, so they are transferring, not creating gold.

Not really.

 

Players can buy bonds with gold.

Players still need gold.

Gold keeps getting farmed.

Gold is traded into bonds.

 

Which part did you not get mate? lol

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