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The Secret World 

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  User Deleted
9/23/13 6:08:53 PM#41

This game had a lot of potential. I pre-ordered.

Loved the graphics, setting, sound and music.
The premise is great and the investigation quests are a lot of fun.
Dungeons have interesting mechanics and are a lot of fun as well.
The theater is a great idea and the barber shop is implemented well with the lore.
The ability wheel is a cool concept and has a lot of depth.
Three faction pvp is nice since it balances itself out easier than two faction.

Your character feels like it sort of floats in front of the environments. There is not a lot of object interaction save for a ladder or cellar door here and there.
You cant sit in chairs or lean up against walls which is annoying because npcs are doin that all over the place.
The cash shop is a rip off and the cosmetics shouldve been put into the game as an activity players could do themselves. Like a fashion designer or some such thing. Lots of missed opportunities having a modern day mmo. No housing or vehicles in a game where it makes perfect sense to have.
The crafting is a half ass rip from minecraft. It is a complete joke and frankly an insult to anyone with half a brain. Seriously. You're playing a present day mmo and yet you gather metal scraps, put them in a box in the crude shape of a gun, and an assault rifle pops out. Are you fucking kidding me?
As far as the dialogue, your preferences will probably differ from mine. Lots of people love it. I thought it was juvenile at best. It felt like it was written by 14 year olds who still think cussing is cool and snicker when someone says vagina.


Anyway, great concepts. Some not executed so well.

  Vened

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Joined: 4/26/07
Posts: 71

9/23/13 8:55:00 PM#42
Originally posted by Foomerang

This game had a lot of potential. I pre-ordered.

I played beta (early), preordered and buy.

Loved the graphics, setting, sound and music.
The premise is great and the investigation quests are a lot of fun.
Dungeons have interesting mechanics and are a lot of fun as well.
The theater is a great idea and the barber shop is implemented well with the lore.
The ability wheel is a cool concept and has a lot of depth.
Three faction pvp is nice since it balances itself out easier than two faction.

Yep, u r right

Your character feels like it sort of floats in front of the environments. There is not a lot of object interaction save for a ladder or cellar door here and there.

Nah,there is much more interaction environment than in any other mmorpg

You cant sit in chairs or lean up against walls which is annoying because npcs are doin that all over the place.

But you can climb on ladder. And Yes, you can sit, sing, and do lots of shit. -  /emote and TAB
The cash shop is a rip off and the cosmetics shouldve been put into the game as an activity players could do themselves. Like a fashion designer or some such thing. Lots of missed opportunities having a modern day mmo. No housing or vehicles in a game where it makes perfect sense to have.

Lol. yeah. Power to the people.

But mate, i like my Monster Hunter jacket. I dont want Montsers Jacekts impostors.
The crafting is a half ass rip from minecraft. It is a complete joke and frankly an insult to anyone with half a brain. Seriously. You're playing a present day mmo and yet you gather metal scraps, put them in a box in the crude shape of a gun, and an assault rifle pops out. Are you fucking kidding me?

Its not crafting its assembling. You dont craft "things" .
As far as the dialogue, your preferences will probably differ from mine. Lots of people love it. I thought it was juvenile at best. It felt like it was written by 14 year olds who still think cussing is cool and snicker when someone says vagina.

Lol. Who the hell says vagina except you?
Anyway, great concepts. Some not executed so well.

Executed well, but can be better. Sorry my bad english, not native...

 

  bcbully

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9/23/13 9:01:05 PM#43
It's the best written mmorpg I've ever played, worth of novels IMO. Yes you will be able to build and rebuild, but you will have no where to use you unique awesome builds.
  Greymantle4

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Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 773

9/23/13 9:08:53 PM#44
It depends what your looking for. I find it to be another action combat video game just like the others. You go around doing quest to get exp and level while fighting and doing puzzles that you look up in their in game browser to solve. The crafting in game is poor at best and that is about it. I wish I could sell you my copy. :)
  User Deleted
9/24/13 1:54:02 AM#45
Originally posted by bcbully
It's the best written mmorpg I've ever played, worth of novels IMO. Yes you will be able to build and rebuild, but you will have no where to use you unique awesome builds.

I found there were a few well-written characters (for an MMO) but the internal consistencies in the setting were too glaring and the constant resetting of the mobs broke any hope of immersion.

Also the gameplay and quests were pretty feeble as well so any promise of adventure from a semi-interesting character was cruelly dashed.

  Pratt2112

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Joined: 2/12/12
Posts: 1280

9/24/13 8:05:54 AM#46
Originally posted by OldTimeGamer
Originally posted by bcbully
It's the best written mmorpg I've ever played, worth of novels IMO. Yes you will be able to build and rebuild, but you will have no where to use you unique awesome builds.

I found there were a few well-written characters (for an MMO) but the internal consistencies in the setting were too glaring and the constant resetting of the mobs broke any hope of immersion.

Can you give examples of the internal inconsistencies, which I'm sure is what you meant? I'm curious what you're referring to, and simply saying "there are glaring internal (in)consistencies" isn't really saying much.  It's like someone asking you "what did you do today?" and you say "Oh, a bunch of stuff", and leave it at that. We get the idea that you did things, but have no specific idea what.

Constant resetting of mobs? I've had that happen maybe three times, and it was usually due to me simply getting outside their range, or on a spot they couldn't reach. In most other cases, if I was on a spot they couldn't reach, they'd simply start using ranged attacks.

Also the gameplay and quests were pretty feeble as well so any promise of adventure from a semi-interesting character was cruelly dashed.

This is another very vague complaint. We have no idea why you feel that way, just that you do. What made it feeble to you?

(possible spoilers)

I found the idea of tracking someone down on a moving train, having to hop from car to car, climb along the sides, fight off attacking enemies while a fire burns its way down the cars toward me, ultimately facing down the main antagonist and kicking him from the top of the train to have been one of the most interesting and exciting series of events I've experienced in any MMO ever. And that was just the finale of one story arc.

Putting together the clues and retracing the steps of a hobbyist conspiracy theorist, to ultimately follow him into the very surreal and dream-like world inside the Fog around Solomon Island, and learn of what it's doing to people was quite fun, very imaginative, and rather creepy.

The are many examples to be given of missions and quests that I, at least, have never experienced in any other MMO I've ever played. Not even close. They've been anything but feeble, and the sense of adventure has been quite strong. Then again, what you consider Adventure and what I do could be entirely different. And anyway, I have no idea what in particular you found lacking.

 

 

  Pratt2112

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Joined: 2/12/12
Posts: 1280

9/24/13 8:17:20 AM#47
Originally posted by Zeppelin4
It depends what your looking for. I find it to be another action combat video game just like the others. You go around doing quest to get exp and level while fighting and doing puzzles that you look up in their in game browser to solve. The crafting in game is poor at best and that is about it. I wish I could sell you my copy. :)

I'm assuming  you did, but I hope you realized that the idea of the in-game browser was so you could look up clues provided in-game during missions (typically Investigation Missions). Many people seem to be under the impression that the idea of having the browser in-game was to make it easier for people to pull up walk-through guides. That isn't it.

There are clues in the form of Bible verses, Latin writings, morse-code, and many other things that require you to google them in order to track down and figure out.

There are entire websites created specifically for the game. A few are for The Orochi Group, The Town of Kingsmouth, and a blog by Tyler Freeborn, which was discovered by future players 2 years before the game even launched. Tyler Freeborn has an entire Issue storyline dedicated to him, and his blog gives a lot of background on himself and his investigations. All of those examples, and more, contain information that's required to solve different missions, and to provide background on the various people and places in TSW.

That's why there's a browser inside the game. The Secret World is supposed to take place in the modern real world, where all these things are available. So, they make use of them in-game as well. Funcom also runs ARGs via Twitter, many details of which are reflected in the game as well.

TSW is not a standard "generic fantasy MMO #14325". Trying to play it like one (which many seem to do, based on complaints I see) is bound to be a disappointing experience. Square peg, round hole and all that. It's quite a different game from anything else out there.

 

  User Deleted
9/24/13 6:18:16 PM#48

Are you saying you have played The Secret World, TangentWorld, and missed all the inconsistencies?

If you failed to spot them then you may not understand them if I pointed them out.

Are you also saying that no-one can find TSW quests feeble?

I find that  a very hard claim for someone, even a devoted fan, to make.

  Pratt2112

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Joined: 2/12/12
Posts: 1280

9/24/13 8:05:47 PM#49
Originally posted by OldTimeGamer

Are you saying you have played The Secret World, TangentWorld, and missed all the inconsistencies?

I have not. But that's neither here nor there. I'm not the one making the claim.

You stated that there are internal inconsistencies in TSW. I asked you to provide some examples. Whether or not I would understand them is irrelevant. Frankly, you don't know me well enough from Adam to make that judgment anyway. There's a number of reasons I might not be aware of such things - such as simply not encountering them yet. Or, perhaps because they simply don't exist.

So, will you provide examples of the internal consistencies you claim to have found? Or are you going to play dodge-ball, and I'm wasting my time asking?

Are you also saying that no-one can find TSW quests feeble?

I find that  a very hard claim for someone, even a devoted fan, to make.

I assume you read my post, so you tell me. Am I saying that?

I'll answer that for you. No, I'm not.

I didn't say anything. I, again, made a request, and I'll make it one more time: Will you provide examples of what you find feeble, and why?

Or am I wasting my time again?

 

  Ortwig

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Joined: 4/20/12
Posts: 1067

9/24/13 10:50:54 PM#50
Originally posted by OldTimeGamer

Are you saying you have played The Secret World, TangentWorld, and missed all the inconsistencies?

If you failed to spot them then you may not understand them if I pointed them out.

Gee.  Try us.

  User Deleted
9/25/13 1:41:48 AM#51

I have already posted my review of this game via the forums and it can be found using the site's search facilities.

I assume you that this site does have search facilities although some uber fans will tell me this is a mere "claim".

  Pratt2112

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Joined: 2/12/12
Posts: 1280

9/25/13 7:46:44 PM#52
Originally posted by OldTimeGamer

I have already posted my review of this game via the forums and it can be found using the site's search facilities.

I assume you that this site does have search facilities although some uber fans will tell me this is a mere "claim".

So, though you didn't provide a link to your review, curiosity got the better of me, so I went ahead and found it.

What I read was kinda disappointing to be frank. It was more of a meandering, incoherent series of unrelated complaints than any kind of organized or well-reasoned review. More importantly, and most relevant to my previous request of you, however, it didn't provide examples of "feeble missions" or the "internal inconsistencies" you've referred to, which is what I was hoping to find in it.

The only thing in that entire post that could maybe fit the criteria, still doesn't say a whole lot as to what your actual problem was with it.

Here's the bit I'm referring to.

"There was one mission where you actually delivered a package for someone who seemed to be working for the bad guys but this was treated just like all the other missions."

It sounds like you're describing the mission "Rolls Downhill", in Kingsmouth. Assuming that's the one you're talking about (and I'm pretty certain it is), and that's how you characterize it, then you've failed to provide an example of "internal inconsistency" or "feeble missions".

If that's the one, can you please explain to me what your exact issue is with it? You seem to describe it as something "bad", but you don't really explain why (seems to be a "thing" with you).

Alternately, if you have some other specific examples to better illustrate either of your claims, by all means, share them.  If you're just going to continue dodging the question or giving vague non-answers, then just don't bother responding.

  Pratt2112

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Joined: 2/12/12
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9/26/13 7:42:50 AM#53
Originally posted by OldTimeGamer

Why do you must waste your time attacking anyone who has differing views about TSW and then attack them more for the amount of time you have wasted doing this?

If TSW is so amazing, surely you should be spending your time actually playing it.

Don't try to swing this back on me. I'm not attacking anyone. I've asked for specific examples of a couple vague complaints you made about TSW. I've called out the fact that you've been dodging the request every step of the way, and keep throwing out diversions, rather than just providing some examples.

With how vocal and critical you've been about TSW in your relatively brief post history, I'd think you'd be thrilled to give specific examples to back up  your claims. All the more to tear the game down with! It's telling how defensive you become when asked to do so.

You dodged the first time by taking a passive-aggressive jab at my intelligence, questioning whether I'd be able to understand the inconsistencies if you pointed them out. I squashed that by pointing out that you don't know me well enough to make that judgment, and that there are a number of reasons why I might not be aware of such things.

I then asked you again to please provide examples for your assertions.

You dodged the second time by saying to go read your review, also making sure to get in a snarky and unnecessary jab about "claims". I took the time to read the review, found it didn't provide anything to back up your statements.

I asked you for further examples/explanation yet again.

Now you come back and accuse me of attacking you.

It should be clear to anyone at this point of what you're doing. The reason you're dodging requests to give examples is because you can't.

If you can't back up your claims with solid, verifiable examples, then there's no reason for anyone to take them as anything but baseless, unsupported ranting.

And, no, that's not an "attack". That's a frank and fair assessment of your reactions/responses throughout this exchange.

With that, I'm done with this "discussion", as it clearly has become a waste of time.

  User Deleted
9/26/13 2:58:54 PM#54

You are again wasting your own time, as you have finally admitted  to yourself.

I should point out I have been known to recommend The Secret World on the LFGame forum, if someone seems to be a good fit.

People suited to TSW should play it if they want to but other people can hold perfectly valid differing views about this game.

  Siug

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9/26/13 3:05:08 PM#55
I think it's quite healthy and it seems there's no problem finding a group. Just played it after a break and LFG channel was very active.
  Hersaint

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9/26/13 3:18:06 PM#56

Been playing for a while now and I regret my purchase. The PvE quests are interesting if you like reading/searching the web. The ability wheel is interesting - choose anything - but IMO just makes your choice not all that big of a deal. The no level take is interesting - but imo there is a level system it just takes longer to figure out. The crafting system well didn't like it - its not intuitive, fills up your inv with a ton of itmes that all look close to the same! The PvP is bad to non-existant. Suprising since the pre-game nearly broke facebook - with everyone and their brother choosing sides.

Three secret societies(kinda) all soloing through stories and then stanindg around in crazy clothes screaming "LFG" to do the next private instance.

I like the storyline but nothing to keep it an MMO instead of a solo rpg.

Just my 2 yuans worth

  Pratt2112

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9/26/13 5:07:55 PM#57
Originally posted by OldTimeGamer

You are again wasting your own time, as you have finally admitted  to yourself.

Indeed.

Asking you for examples to support your claims is a waste of time.

We agree on something. Awesome. Let's call it a high note and end on that.

 

 

  Pratt2112

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9/26/13 5:20:51 PM#58
Originally posted by Hersaint

Been playing for a while now and I regret my purchase. The PvE quests are interesting if you like reading/searching the web.

The investigation missions require looking stuff up, but that's only a small portion of the missions in the game, and they're entirely skip-able if you don't like them (and there are those who don't). Most of them are purely objective based, though the objectives can be tricky to achieve at times.

The ability wheel is interesting - choose anything - but IMO just makes your choice not all that big of a deal.

Oh, not at all. Picking your skills is where TSW's ability systems begins. Your choices matter quite a lot.

Give this article a look. It explains the concept behind the Skill Wheel, Actives and Passives, the concept of 'Synergy', and why your skill choices are very important to how you fight and how effective you are.

To wit, the Skill system in TSW is actually quite deep, though it doesn't seem that way at first.

The no level take is interesting - but imo there is a level system it just takes longer to figure out.

It's not a traditional "level 1, level 10, level 30", etc... deal. There are "tiers" or "Quality Levels" of difficulty and such. However, you'll find those "tiers" are not as cut-and-dry as they are in other MMOs. If you're a level 50 character in your typical MMO, you can go into a level 10 area, be attacked by an entire area's worth of mobs, and not be scratched.

Try doing the equivalent in TSW (a QL10 in a QL3 area, etc), and you'll have a rather different experience. You can still find yourself in hot water fairly easily if you're not careful, and if your gear isn't up to snuff. Character progression is much more flat.

The crafting system well didn't like it - its not intuitive, fills up your inv with a ton of itmes that all look close to the same! The PvP is bad to non-existant. Suprising since the pre-game nearly broke facebook - with everyone and their brother choosing sides.

Crafting is hit or miss. You either love it or you hate it. I personally really enjoy it, but at first I couldn't stand it. It seemed "too weird" to me. Once I got a handle on it, though, I came to be rather fond of it. Def. not for everyone, though, agreed.

Three secret societies(kinda) all soloing through stories and then stanindg around in crazy clothes screaming "LFG" to do the next private instance.

You'll see that in Agartha, sure. Elsewhere, though, people are also running missions together, doing Lair runs, doing dungeons, doing their "10ks", PvP'ing, etc. Speaking for my own Cabal, at least, I can tell you we are quite active, and people are always out doing a variety of things. I don't think anyone's ever standing around shouting for instances.

If you'd be interested, I can PM you my in-game character name and perhaps you can give my Cabal a try? I think you'll find your experience can be improved quite a lot. They're a good group. Your call, but I just wanted to leave the offer open.

 

 

  User Deleted
9/27/13 8:22:34 AM#59
Originally posted by TangentPoint
Originally posted by OldTimeGamer

You are again wasting your own time, as you have finally admitted  to yourself.

Indeed.

Asking you for examples to support your claims is a waste of time.

We agree on something. Awesome. Let's call it a high note and end on that.

Actually the way you are wasting your time is actively, continuously badgering people for any hint of dissent.

You claimed you would stop with me, and yet you carried on again.

Then you go on to attack another person in much the same manner.

You must be really bored with The Secret World to do this instead of playing the game itself.

  Pekish79

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9/27/13 8:02:10 PM#60

Sorry OldTimeGamer but he got a point

 

if you criticize something you need to prove your point with example or information otherwise you are not contributing to the discussion.

 

if i get in here and say "the game is awesome" and leave is moronic at best.

 

Especially when you criticize you need to justify you critique, in internet there is too much people that enjoy the noise of the finger on the keyboard while writing bashing comments.

 

if you dont you just sound like a troll of the worst kind

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