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  DrDream

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9/23/13 4:48:38 PM#41
I feel like im one of a few but i like Class restrictions based upon lore, while many may disagree many raced in WoW wouldn't make good druids, my biggest gripe is tauren rogues, i just cant see  them being viable rogues when it comes to there size, along with Tauren paladins. In games like Rift it makes sense they all seem like they could do anything but i guess in the end it all depends on the game the races and the choices of course. we shall see how it all fairs i guess.
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9/23/13 4:54:14 PM#42
Originally posted by DrDream
I feel like im one of a few but i like Class restrictions based upon lore, while many may disagree many raced in WoW wouldn't make good druids, my biggest gripe is tauren rogues, i just cant see  them being viable rogues when it comes to there size, along with Tauren paladins. In games like Rift it makes sense they all seem like they could do anything but i guess in the end it all depends on the game the races and the choices of course. we shall see how it all fairs i guess.

^ people should take lessons from this guy on objectivity.

  Yizle

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9/23/13 4:58:15 PM#43
Originally posted by Wiha
So I can roll gnome shadow knight-paladin-druid-necromancer? Personally I'm less interested in this game with every new info they reveal. SOE devs must really hate Everquest to erase everything from that game.

Getting this same feeling. My interest wanes the more I hear about it.

  Nadia

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9/23/13 5:26:45 PM#44
Originally posted by GimiZigi

the dev's did say in the video that they originally didn't want to have class restriction. So why even have the vote? For sh*ts and giggles? Seems like a pretty big waste of time if you ask me.

I agree - why put it up for vote?

  bcbully

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9/23/13 5:29:16 PM#45
Originally posted by eric_w66
It's being made for the PS4, that's all you need know about this game.

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  Nadia

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9/23/13 5:29:31 PM#46
Originally posted by GimiZigi

Players want immersion, they want a game with real meaningful decisions, not a free-for-all, do-whatever-you-want game.

as I posted earlier

at SOE fanfaire they said there are class restrictions - you cannot choose both a paladin and shadowknight

  Distopia

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9/23/13 5:39:15 PM#47
Originally posted by neobahamut20
So much for having a round table. Another bunch of liars, like the ones working on GW2.

A round table like this isn't put in place to govern the developers. It's simply there to provide feedback and opinions of the playerbase. That doesn't mean they will allow the players to dictate the games design.

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  Mardy

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9/23/13 5:39:17 PM#48
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by GimiZigi

the dev's did say in the video that they originally didn't want to have class restriction. So why even have the vote? For sh*ts and giggles? Seems like a pretty big waste of time if you ask me.

I agree - why put it up for vote?

 

Agreed, seems like the round table is nothing but a PR stunt.  They never intended on changing their minds based on the votes, they likely already know exactly what they want to do with the game inside out.  The EQ Next Round Table seems to be just a way for them to keep players interested in the game while they pretend to take notice to what players want from the game.

 

The whole ninja & guns question, you can bet they already have their minds made up about putting them in the game before they even put the votes up.

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  Choch

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Joined: 10/15/12
Posts: 155

9/23/13 5:56:31 PM#49
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by GimiZigi

Players want immersion, they want a game with real meaningful decisions, not a free-for-all, do-whatever-you-want game.

as I posted earlier

at SOE fanfaire they said there are class restrictions - you cannot choose both a paladin and shadowknight

Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to no class restriction as per your race. With no restriction, we end up living in a world with giant ogre/troll rogues, things that are completely out of place and ultimately making the game less immersive. This may not be a big deal for people which is why I said that this subject is not a game-breaker for me but it does make you feel like you're playing in some silly cartoon game with oddball characters running around.

  Golelorn

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9/23/13 6:30:17 PM#50
This will be a game that tries to cater to everyone, and no one will like it for that very reason. Stand for something SOE. Have some balls.
  Choch

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9/23/13 6:38:44 PM#51
Originally posted by Golelorn
This will be a game that tries to cater to everyone, and no one will like it for that very reason. Stand for something SOE. Have some balls.

If there was a like button on this website, I would break it for you.

+1 for you sir!

  Praxcelis

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Joined: 1/28/13
Posts: 2

9/23/13 6:43:53 PM#52
My enthusiasm drops each time SOE speaks about EQN. This one may not matter to 60% of those polled, but I'm betting it is A BIG DEAL to those of us in the 40%.
  Praxcelis

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9/23/13 6:45:45 PM#53
Can I be a bad guy wood elf drood? Cuz that was bad enough oh so many years ago…
  hraeth

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Joined: 10/25/07
Posts: 35

9/23/13 7:45:18 PM#54

Honestly when I first heard about the round table my hope for the game waned a bit.  Now that I see that the round table is a poll rather than a vote my hopes are rising again.  I don't really believe that race/class restrictions add much to the game.  Especially given the fact that a big part of the game appears to be going out and getting classes to augment your main class with.  There just doesn't appear to be a compelling reason to arbitrarily exclude x or y class from a or b race.  Sure, you could write lore that makes it exclusive... or you could write lore that makes it inclusive.  Game play isn't significantly improved (possibly isn't at all improved) by the addition of unnecessary and arbitrary limitation.  This kind of limitation might make more sense if there were "hero" classes that had especially powerful abilities that, from a development standpoint, you didn't want players mixing and matching but we don't have that.

For those who are upset that SOE isn't listening to you (using the round table as a vote):  Of course they aren't listenting to you.  They are professional game developers and you are... well, not professional game developers (statistically speaking).  Be glad that they aren't listening to the crowd too closely.  It's the only hope you have for a good game...

  VooDoo_Papa

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Posts: 877

9/23/13 8:41:40 PM#55

The more i see SOE feedback on the round table, the more im convinced that they know what route theyre going to go, they just want to see how their future gamers will react to their decisions before pushing forward.

Were nit voting on things to be excluded or included, were just showing how we would feel if certain things are included or excluded. Obviously the more detailed feedback in the forums gives a better insight to these polls because its not always as black and white as the poll results show

  Ehliya

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Joined: 7/13/06
Posts: 197

9/24/13 12:20:23 AM#56
Why bother with the round table if SOE already knows what they want to do and are going to do it anyway?  Yeesh, they aren't helping build trust...
  Lustmord

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Posts: 1133

9/24/13 12:24:44 AM#57
exactly. If they have to ask questions like "Should female dwarves have beards", then they clearly don't have a grasp on the direction of the EQ franchise.
  hraeth

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Joined: 10/25/07
Posts: 35

9/24/13 12:48:01 AM#58
Clearly some things are "flavor".  Dwarven female beards and ratonga fit into this category and it would make sense for SOE to treat those subjects more like a vote than an opinion poll.  Restriction of classes to specific races, however, effects more that just the flavor of the game.  It has the potential to effect game balance (especially in PvP).  Of course they already have an idea of where they are going with the development of the game.  If they didn't there wouldn't be much of a game developed.  In the case of issues that may cause imbalance (not beards) it makes more sense to use the Round Table as a way to check in with the community as a whole.  It's very possible that SOE gained information from the forums about this particular subject that helped them come to a final decision.  Perhaps it was a group of players that gave the feedback that made the dev's realize that race/class restrictions had the potential to imbalance the game. 
  nomadie

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Joined: 11/24/06
Posts: 43

Pie.

9/24/13 5:13:37 AM#59
Race should never have a factor to pick a class, I mean if a human can pretty much be every thing why cant every other race do the same, I mean how would your race stop you from being whatever you want.  If you're a Roleplayer it still should not stop you from being any thing, I mean really if you're say a Troll or an Ogre why could it not be a bard? It has hands and a mouth pretty sure they can play something it just may not be the best sound.
  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 8103

9/24/13 5:28:30 AM#60

What a joke this is - it's like they are going out of their way and intentionally giving all the EQ1 vets a big middle finger with every new EQN info reveal.

Lets take all the unique things that made EQ cool (like the fact that race mattered) - and just throw it in the trash.

With every new reveal - EQN just keeps sounding worse and worse.

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