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  niceguy3978

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9/22/13 4:35:50 PM#21
Originally posted by ray12k

My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

My point is, that these games have been popular for decades.  It isn't just now.  It was the past, it is the present, and it will be the future.

  ray12k

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Joined: 4/08/05
Posts: 475

 
OP  9/22/13 4:42:24 PM#22
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless

GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

By doing some pathetic and inaccurate math:

If I only counted regular box sales, without the 3x as expensive collectors editions, it would still be like what ~15 million copies sold, and it is still the highest possible estimate (I suck at math, but whatever, it doesn't need to be more accurate than that to prove the point)

GTA IV sold 25 millions so far.... don't you think you put this post a tiny bit prematurely? You could at least wait for it to beat previous game sales, because now it looks like the opposite, new game with violence sells less copies...

 

not really, They made 1 billion dollars in 3 days.  In a sales point of view its unheard of. But my main point was that 18+ games have a huge market.

  niceguy3978

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9/22/13 4:48:17 PM#23
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless

GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

By doing some pathetic and inaccurate math:

If I only counted regular box sales, without the 3x as expensive collectors editions, it would still be like what ~15 million copies sold, and it is still the highest possible estimate (I suck at math, but whatever, it doesn't need to be more accurate than that to prove the point)

GTA IV sold 25 millions so far.... don't you think you put this post a tiny bit prematurely? You could at least wait for it to beat previous game sales, because now it looks like the opposite, new game with violence sells less copies...

 

not really, They made 1 billion dollars in 3 days.  In a sales point of view its unheard of. But my main point was that 18+ games have a huge market.

They have always had a huge market.  That's like saying R-rated movies have a huge market, or porn has a huge market.  Most people are over the age of 18, therefore 18+ games have a huge market.  The point most people are trying to get across is that this isn't a new phenomenon.   This even goes back to the peak of the arcade era.  Violent games have always been popular.  MMO's have always been violent.  

  ray12k

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Joined: 4/08/05
Posts: 475

 
OP  9/22/13 4:49:57 PM#24
Originally posted by niceguy3978
Originally posted by ray12k

My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

My point is, that these games have been popular for decades.  It isn't just now.  It was the past, it is the present, and it will be the future.

Ah no, these games have just recently been out selling  other video games. I mean hell go a step further and say violent games started with chess lol.

 

18+ games are the future of gaming, saying its always been that way is absurd.

  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1289

9/22/13 4:50:02 PM#25
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless

GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

Originally posted by ray12k

My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

  ray12k

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Joined: 4/08/05
Posts: 475

 
OP  9/22/13 4:53:28 PM#26
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless

GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

Originally posted by ray12k

My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong. And no, games were not as graphic in the 90's. You obviously havnt played bf3 or a new cod.  

And yes they do sell rated A games and they are sold by retailers.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_Software_Rating_Board

  User Deleted
9/22/13 5:01:02 PM#27
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless

GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

Originally posted by ray12k

My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

  Quizzical

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9/22/13 5:05:18 PM#28
Originally posted by Panther2103
Does everyone not remember the ultra violent games of the past? Mortal Kombat had insanely violent fatalities, having almost nothing to do with the actual gameplay and were just there to be crazy and violent. There was plenty of violent games in the past like Splatterhouse, Harvester (and a lot of the adventure games that came out around this time), almost any first person shooter had more blood than GTA and think about guns in them like the BFG and Cerebral Bore (turok 2), games have always been violent, just because one sells well doesn't mean it's the future.

Panther already said about what I was going to say, so I'll just quote him and leave it at that.

  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1289

9/22/13 5:05:33 PM#29
Doesn't really matter what M is. The point is that popular shooters have been rated M for ages. Half-Life, Max Payne, COD, BioShock & System Shock, Quake, GTA... pretty much all popular shooters I can think of are rated M and many of these series are over a decade old. That's nothing new.
  bonzoso21

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Joined: 10/13/04
Posts: 102

9/22/13 5:21:53 PM#30
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless

GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

Originally posted by ray12k

My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

 

An M-Rating is exactly the same as an R-rating...both are age 17+, and there are no legal penalties for ignoring ratings by the MPAA or the ESRB. The AO-rating is the highest ESRB rating, at 18+, and you're correct in that any AO game would not be on shelves at most major retailers.

I also wouldn't classify the GTA series as a simple 'shooter' along with FPS series like CoD and Battlefield. Yes, it's main weapons are firearms, but I'd think of if along the lines of an Open-World Action game. It has far more in common from a design standpoint with Crackdown, Saints Row, Assassin's Creed, Arkham City, infamous, Prototype, and even the open-world Spider-Man games by Activision than it does Call of Duty.

  ray12k

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Joined: 4/08/05
Posts: 475

 
OP  9/22/13 5:22:13 PM#31
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless

GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

Originally posted by ray12k

My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1

Looks like the money talks. But yeah keep down playing 1 billion in 3 days.... good on yah lol.

  Rayshe

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9/22/13 5:28:02 PM#32
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless

GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

Originally posted by ray12k

My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1

Looks like the money talks. But yeah keep down playing 1 billion in 3 days.... good on yah lol.

Your playing that its the violence in video games thats causing this, Peronsally i think your wrong. Video game popularity has grown extremely quickly over the last few generations. more people are playing for longer in their lives. i would honestly say that today we have the most people playing videogames then ever before. Think of it, Gaming used to be comsitered a geek thing. Gaming used to be as socially nerdy as playing Table top stuff, Now every does it. more people are playing then ever before, and these people aren't putting the controllers down. usually people who have the money to shell out to games when they are released. factor in the new costs tied to special ediions and you can see where the 1 billion comes from.  

 

Its not Ultra violence thats doing this, its simple popularity of the industry. And more people playing for longer.

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  i_own_u

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9/22/13 5:28:20 PM#33
League of Legends is not "Ultra Violent" and is the most popular game in the world right now. 
  bonzoso21

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9/22/13 5:33:57 PM#34
Sure, it's the biggest financial success in entertainment history, but it's NOT just because of the violence. Other publishers may try to tap into that market by trying to create their own game in the style of the GTA series, but they will likely fail because they don't have Rockstar. Rockstar makes great games. They take their time on them, they never flood the market with their stuff (i.e. Ubisoft and annual Assassin's Creed games), and Take-Two allows them to spend big on both development and marketing. People know that open-world action games by Rockstar San Diego are going to be great games. Shocking violence is definitely a big part of the series' history, and that may be why teens were so into the earliest games. But those teens are now in their 30s, and there's nothing wrong with them enjoying a great game with a ton of variety and content akin to anything you'd watch on HBO.
  User Deleted
9/22/13 5:38:45 PM#35
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by Scalpless

GTA V isn't popular because of its violence. It's popular because it's probably the best open world shooter ever made, with a ton of variety, amazing (for this gen of consoles) graphics and great gameplay.

Ah no, If the game had no violence I can with out a doubt tell you it would fail. Stop lying to yourself....

If it had no violence it wouldn't have gameplay. It's a shooter. You shoot stuff. On the other hand, if GTA5 had normal shooter violence, it'd still sell like hotcakes.

Originally posted by ray12k

My point was that games with the 18+ rating are the ones selling like hot cakes.  COD AND BF4 are also 18+ and many more but the 3 above dominate the gaming industry. 

MMORPGS have a lot of catching up....

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32552&Title=Call%20of%20Duty:%20Black%20Ops%20II

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=32041

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31650

COD: Black Ops 2, BF3 and GTA5 are all rated M by ESRB, which is 16+ and the standard rating for shooters. If they were R (18+) rated, many retailers would refuse to sell them in the US, which is the reason why ESRB ratings are important.

COD and BF3 aren't particularly violent. They've got blood and some gore, but we had much more violent stuff in the 90s.

Rated M is 17+... seems we both were wrong.

http://www.refinedguy.com/2013/06/11/the-30-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time/#1

Do please continue telling us how ultra violent games are the future and how they're the best sold evah.

The OP needs a reality check because he/she seems to be living in a certain demographic and is unable to fathom that that demographic isn't that big (it isn't small mind you but nor is it the majority).

http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1

Looks like the money talks. But yeah keep down playing 1 billion in 3 days.... good on yah lol.

Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all times and even caused particularly interesting individuals to commit suicide, does that mean that Avatar-like movies are all that's left in the future? 4 years have proven otherwise.

As for 1 billion in 3 days, yeah, it's also the most expensive game ever made and I am willing to bet it had the most expensive marketing campaign for a game ever as well. Time will tell if sales will keep up or if its main demographic (around 25-30 million people, if previous series game sales are to be believed) has shrunk. If everything holds and their marketing was spot on then the game will hit about 2.5-3 bil USD if everyone rushes to buy the game at full price. Pound for pound it looks good but that's under ideal conditions, my guess is the game will make a good profit but sales will taper off in about 2-3 weeks as saturation is reached amongst die hard fans and casual fans and then you'll see some spurts during sales. 30 million copies would be allot if it sells that much in the end but it's still not enough to make your point ^^ as both a italian plumber by the name of Mario ( over 10 million more copies sold on the first super marios game) and Wii sports ( over 80 million copies) beat it hands down.

  Gorwe

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9/22/13 5:43:36 PM#36
Violence in games! Yay! I've got just the thing for you:

Go to the GameTrailers and watch the latest episode of Marcus(the Annoyed Gamer). He was just talking about the GTA V and m rating(18+) and how it should've been Ao rating(adult only, 21+). And the effects of that and dimwit parent's buying GTA for their eight/nine year old child's birthday lol.

Just go watch it. You won't be sorry!

(This is my contribution to this discussion)
  ray12k

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OP  9/22/13 5:45:56 PM#37
Originally posted by i_own_u
League of Legends is not "Ultra Violent" and is the most popular game in the world right now. 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2013-s-best-selling-video-games--so-far-121312729.html

Its not.

 

Originally posted by bonzoso21
Sure, it's the biggest financial success in entertainment history, but it's NOT just because of the violence. Other publishers may try to tap into that market by trying to create their own game in the style of the GTA series, but they will likely fail because they don't have Rockstar. Rockstar makes great games. They take their time on them, they never flood the market with their stuff (i.e. Ubisoft and annual Assassin's Creed games), and Take-Two allows them to spend big on both development and marketing. People know that open-world action games by Rockstar San Diego are going to be great games. Shocking violence is definitely a big part of the series' history, and that may be why teens were so into the earliest games. But those teens are now in their 30s, and there's nothing wrong with them enjoying a great game with a ton of variety and content akin to anything you'd watch on HBO.

 

I agree on the point that the game allows freedom but I do disagree on that people play only for the open world ect. You play the game as a criminal, You kill innocent people. Blow up cop cars ect. You are right on the story and flow and how they created their world, its a quality game.

I mean If I had a kid I wouldnt let him play this game would you? Unless he was a teenager that is. 

Yes, I also agree its a just a game, I guess the post was to reinforce that realistic non-pg gaming is on a rise.  IMO I feel its a good thing, It will pull more adults into gaming.

 

  i_own_u

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9/22/13 5:48:01 PM#38

I said "most popular" not highest grossing. 

 

EDIT: And I highly doubt Tomb Raider made more money than League of Legends did this year. 

  niceguy3978

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9/22/13 5:54:53 PM#39
Originally posted by ray12k
Originally posted by i_own_u
League of Legends is not "Ultra Violent" and is the most popular game in the world right now. 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2013-s-best-selling-video-games--so-far-121312729.html

Its not.

 

Originally posted by bonzoso21
Sure, it's the biggest financial success in entertainment history, but it's NOT just because of the violence. Other publishers may try to tap into that market by trying to create their own game in the style of the GTA series, but they will likely fail because they don't have Rockstar. Rockstar makes great games. They take their time on them, they never flood the market with their stuff (i.e. Ubisoft and annual Assassin's Creed games), and Take-Two allows them to spend big on both development and marketing. People know that open-world action games by Rockstar San Diego are going to be great games. Shocking violence is definitely a big part of the series' history, and that may be why teens were so into the earliest games. But those teens are now in their 30s, and there's nothing wrong with them enjoying a great game with a ton of variety and content akin to anything you'd watch on HBO.

 

I agree on the point that the game allows freedom but I do disagree on that people play only for the open world ect. You play the game as a criminal, You kill innocent people. Blow up cop cars ect. You are right on the story and flow and how they created their world, its a quality game.

I mean If I had a kid I wouldnt let him play this game would you? Unless he was a teenager that is. 

Yes, I also agree its a just a game, I guess the post was to reinforce that realistic non-pg gaming is on a rise.  IMO I feel its a good thing, It will pull more adults into gaming.

 

The median age for a player of video games is in the upper 20s, I'm not sure how much more adult you want it to get?

  WhiteLantern

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9/22/13 5:54:55 PM#40
Originally posted by maplestone
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 


Originally posted by maplestone
I'm suffering a generation/culture gap on that franchise.  It's a genre that just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.  But it looks like it's the next generation's version of high fantasy.


You and me both!

 

Would you like to pull up a rocking chair and yell at the young kids with me?

I'm not grumpy enough for rocking chairs.  I want to be an Obi-wan.

 

At least you don't want to be an Uncle Owen!

 

Ah ha ha ha ha ha.......

 

 

Ahem. Sorry, had to.

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

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