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  Coldhatez

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Joined: 12/01/11
Posts: 15

 
OP  9/22/13 2:24:50 PM#1

So what can i expect? Im a former WoW player, and i liked that game alot.

I heard there is no gear progression so how does the end game work?

 

Thanks

  IridescentOrk

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Joined: 5/27/13
Posts: 160

9/22/13 2:25:51 PM#2
it's a dps zerg fest

gameplay > graphics

  Psion33

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Joined: 8/06/13
Posts: 257

9/22/13 2:27:19 PM#3

This game is the gold "cornerstone" for all those people pushing both F2P and B2P. 

 

Just keep that in mind when other's talk to you about this game. They hold it in very high esteem.

 

Me personally, I like doing two things in MMOs. Crafting and PVP. I love the crafting system here. The PVP here outright blows...just too many flaws to list and count. Both sPVP and WvWvW.

 

As to your original question, I never did more then a few nights of the end game PVP here. That map chat will fly by so fast with people all trying to set up their very specific groups that what you get is, 200 people (random number) all shouting in map chat for a specific group and 30 minutes later the "right" group will be formed.

 

Since there is no "gear checking" here there is spec checking and believe me, they take just as long to "check" you for endgame here as was in WoW with gear check.

  Skaioverride

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Joined: 11/06/12
Posts: 52

9/22/13 2:28:56 PM#4
if you already have it, see for yourself...
  Psion33

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9/22/13 2:33:46 PM#5
Originally posted by Skaioverride
if you already have it, see for yourself...

 

I always love the trailing dot dot dots'. :D :P

 

Get on with the show!

  Professor78

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9/22/13 2:37:38 PM#6
If you don't really care about teamwork... this is exactly the game for you

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  Psion33

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9/22/13 2:42:37 PM#7
Originally posted by Professor78
If you don't really care about teamwork... this is exactly the game for you

 

Who can be bothered to put so much trust in someone that they'll do their job (from within the trinity?) No thank you sir.

  emperorwings

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Joined: 12/25/06
Posts: 1397

9/22/13 2:50:59 PM#8
Faster leveling than WoW. Missing trinity. You can get random people in for dungeons and it's just a dps zerg die and go back to where you left off. I'd play it casually  to get the most out of it because if you play it fully then maybe 2 weeks before you get everything you want from a game out of it maybe less.

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  Purutzil

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 2905

The Critical Hit Pretzel!

9/22/13 3:03:17 PM#9

Well I'd say play it and see. Over-all simply put though.

 

1.) Action based combat... somewhat. Its meant to be more action based though outside dodging it isn't completely action based. The combat system over-all is weaker then WoWs by a good deal. IMO its the weakest part of the game and the thing you do most which is a bit of a holding point against the game. Its very simplistic as skill comes in play practically just from dodging. The combat to me is one of the weakest in an AAA game I've ever played to be blunt and where I feel pushes the game into such low regard for myself.

 

2.) Great graphics, doing a good job using a much more 'cartoony' look for characters. While i feel they could of explored more abstract art style for environments (making zones feel unique and diffferent) it still looks nice even if not fully realized. Cities in this game are well done and do feel quite alive which is great.

 

3.) WvWvW is a cool concept, even if its implimentation isn't fully realized and the system itself is... 'meh'. Still its interesting to see it in play and getting past some of its duleness you can possibly find some fun in it playing with a group.

 

4.) Story that can rather awesome to being overly cheesy, shake your head terrible. Unfortunately the bad tends to outweigh the good, as near the end if your like me, your probably going to cringe at the last arc in the main story as it gets very stupid very quickly. 

 

5.) Different style of 'leveling'. Its hit and miss though. White more focus on dynamic events (well static events, playing in the same zone quickly makes you realize they are very predictable which can get stale after a while) it does have hearts which are, in my opinion, a very poor implimentation of quests from old games. They manage to feel more tedious and drawn out then traditional quest hubs some how clumping it all into one giant objective bar it can make things very grindy feeling to do. Hitting Max though you will find yourself following a 'zerg' to take out the predictable event spawn.

 

6.) No real 'gear' to gain, though there is grind still in obtaining 'pretty gear'. 

7.) Dungeons are... very poorly designed. Its not so much bad leveling design as such a desire to  break the trinity the game proves WHY you need the trinity, at least in some form to maintain a smooth dungeon experience. This in particularly hurts grouping content as your going to find cheesing it is your best option to attempt a dungeon to make up for it.

  Siug

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Joined: 5/02/12
Posts: 1095

9/22/13 3:09:39 PM#10
Originally posted by Purutzil

Well I'd say play it and see. Over-all simply put though.

 

1.) Action based combat... somewhat. Its meant to be more action based though outside dodging it isn't completely action based. The combat system over-all is weaker then WoWs by a good deal. IMO its the weakest part of the game and the thing you do most which is a bit of a holding point against the game. Its very simplistic as skill comes in play practically just from dodging. The combat to me is one of the weakest in an AAA game I've ever played to be blunt and where I feel pushes the game into such low regard for myself.

 

2.) Great graphics, doing a good job using a much more 'cartoony' look for characters. While i feel they could of explored more abstract art style for environments (making zones feel unique and diffferent) it still looks nice even if not fully realized. Cities in this game are well done and do feel quite alive which is great.

 

3.) WvWvW is a cool concept, even if its implimentation isn't fully realized and the system itself is... 'meh'. Still its interesting to see it in play and getting past some of its duleness you can possibly find some fun in it playing with a group.

 

4.) Story that can rather awesome to being overly cheesy, shake your head terrible. Unfortunately the bad tends to outweigh the good, as near the end if your like me, your probably going to cringe at the last arc in the main story as it gets very stupid very quickly. 

 

5.) Different style of 'leveling'. Its hit and miss though. White more focus on dynamic events (well static events, playing in the same zone quickly makes you realize they are very predictable which can get stale after a while) it does have hearts which are, in my opinion, a very poor implimentation of quests from old games. They manage to feel more tedious and drawn out then traditional quest hubs some how clumping it all into one giant objective bar it can make things very grindy feeling to do. Hitting Max though you will find yourself following a 'zerg' to take out the predictable event spawn.

 

6.) No real 'gear' to gain, though there is grind still in obtaining 'pretty gear'. 

7.) Dungeons are... very poorly designed. Its not so much bad leveling design as such a desire to  break the trinity the game proves WHY you need the trinity, at least in some form to maintain a smooth dungeon experience. This in particularly hurts grouping content as your going to find cheesing it is your best option to attempt a dungeon to make up for it.

Good summary imo and I felt mostly the same when I played GW2.

  ESSKA

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Joined: 11/08/06
Posts: 105

9/22/13 3:14:59 PM#11
Originally posted by Coldhatez

So what can i expect? Im a former WoW player, and i liked that game alot.

I heard there is no gear progression so how does the end game work?

 

Thanks

You already seem to have an opinion about this game judging by your PH. And i'm sure you already know the answer to your question.

  Fangrim

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Joined: 1/07/12
Posts: 484

9/22/13 3:18:38 PM#12
Originally posted by Psion33
Originally posted by Professor78
If you don't really care about teamwork... this is exactly the game for you

 

Who can be bothered to put so much trust in someone that they'll do their job (from within the trinity?) No thank you sir.

You're the kind of player I detest and the main reason MMO's are so shallow and boring.The whole point of a MMORPG is to learn your class and get a name for being good at it.Your style of game play sickens me.I guess some people would rather be a sheep on the whole server of ' DPS dodge class ' then truly shine and make a name for themselves in a SOCIAL game.

When I speak in chat in MMO games that you play a role in ( i refuse to use that stupid name arenanet invented for roles to attempt to discredit them) people know who i am and how i do it and my group is filled up quickly.

  Gardavsshade

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Joined: 6/27/11
Posts: 655

9/22/13 3:27:58 PM#13
Originally posted by Psion33
Originally posted by Professor78
If you don't really care about teamwork... this is exactly the game for you

 

Who can be bothered to put so much trust in someone that they'll do their job (from within the trinity?) No thank you sir.

I can.

In MMOs Players need to trust and rely on other Players all the time. It is part of the attraction that brought me to the MMO genre in the first place. I derive great enjoyment from playing with, working with, adventuring with, other Players. Like I did with DnD many years ago.

But I do get your drift.... I don't really consider GW2 a real MMO either. Fun Game, but not a MMO. For you then GW2 is Perfect.

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2669

9/22/13 4:37:04 PM#14

Apparently only the healers and tanks do team work and the large majority of players that play DPS even in holy trinity oriented games don't matter.

And since DPS players do no team work, whatever they do doesn't really matter but somehow they can survive bosses without tanks and healers in GW2.

Could it be that actually you need to know how to play a DPS class and use your dodges and blocks properly?

Nah, the game must be too easy at the same time that it is a zerg rezzing fest.

Because it is so easy but people somehow die so much the game is rezz zerg fest.

 

Another day in the world of people that can't tolerate difference...

Currently playing: GW2
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  RebelScum99

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Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1127

9/22/13 4:39:25 PM#15
Originally posted by Coldhatez

So what can i expect? Im a former WoW player, and i liked that game alot.

I heard there is no gear progression so how does the end game work?

 

Thanks

You can expect to start looking for a new friend, because you are going to hate your current one.  

  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1354

9/22/13 4:47:45 PM#16

You can expect lots of hate on mmorpg.com. Then again, the same could be said about practically any game.

The official wiki is an excellent source of info:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Main_Page

Most of all, don't expect WoW.

  dwarfkinglords

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Joined: 8/07/13
Posts: 62

9/22/13 4:47:59 PM#17

gw2 is not a trinity game and thank god its not..

 

i like it the way it is.. does every mmo have to be a trinity to you people? some have it and some dont, there are different types of mmo.

 

calling it a flaw is like saying you dont like this type of mmo, its hardly a flaw.. go play something else that focus on it.. geezus christ

  SirFubar

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Joined: 7/21/11
Posts: 405

9/22/13 4:54:23 PM#18
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

Apparently only the healers and tanks do team work and the large majority of players that play DPS even in holy trinity oriented games don't matter.

And since DPS players do no team work, whatever they do doesn't really matter but somehow they can survive bosses without tanks and healers in GW2.

Could it be that actually you need to know how to play a DPS class and use your dodges and blocks properly?

Nah, the game must be too easy at the same time that it is a zerg rezzing fest.

Because it is so easy but people somehow die so much the game is rezz zerg fest.

 

Another day in the world of people that can't tolerate difference...

Hahahaha this exactly. Don't listen to the people who says dungeons are just a zerg rezzing fest with no teamwork. They just never understood how to play and blame the game for their lack of skills and understanding of the game.

  Thupli

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Joined: 7/25/11
Posts: 434

9/22/13 5:07:25 PM#19

I like it.  It has like 1 expansion/tier of wow gear grind to it, then you are done with gear grinding.  

There is no raiding, but the dungeons and fractals are fun.  You can get through them with a poor profession mix and bad players, but it goes much, much better with a good mix and good players.  

I would say the pvp is much better than wow, but the pve is trailing wow.  

 

Overall, I'm happy that it is different than wow.  You realize just how much you can customize and your character when you hit 80 and have full access to all traits and full triple stat gear for tank, heal,condition, crit, toughness builds, depending on sustain vs damage out.

  rastapastor

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9/22/13 6:08:17 PM#20

CalIing outdated and archaic, boring WoW combat better than GW2 is 'insert bad word here'. Seriously u consider static WoW combat better? I'm shocked, but what can i expect from brainwashed wow kids...Good i have oppened my eyes long time ago, played this crap game(WoW) for too long and i was blind on better games that are out there.

 

OP if u have the game already just play it, dont listen to me or other ppl on the forums. They are mostly haters who bash all games except the one that they are currently playing or fanboys who will protect their beloved game to death. Make Your own opiniom.

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