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  Ozmodan

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9/18/13 5:22:59 PM#41

A lesson to all developers, beware using someone else's IP, because the licensing fees will eventually be unprofitable to keep the game running.  

Secondly, only a fool works with Games workshop, one of the worst IP owners out there.

Whoever said greedy EA has it all wrong, it is greedy Games Workshop

  Calerxes

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9/18/13 5:27:14 PM#42
Originally posted by sayuu
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by jordiincraas
they're prob shutting down to make room for the new Warhammer MMO thats in the works (warhammer 40k). Like what Star Wars did. Also maybe this means they're go back to the game they dropped for this one. The based on what if the roman empire never died... I wanna say Imperator? maybe

This is also true, as I tried to explain many times in the SWG case, you cannot have 2 MMOs with the same IP running at the same time because of licensing rights reasons.

Except Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are two different IP's created by the same company.

 

So where exactly is the licensing conflict???

 

How many gamers do you think know there is a difference between Warhammer and Warhammer 40K outside of Warhammer fans?

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  ste2000

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9/18/13 5:32:42 PM#43
Originally posted by MumboJumbo

Some great zones, and classes, but ultimately too restricted.

Anyone remember this version by Climax before Mythic's version?

Warhammer online (Climax)

Wonder how that would have turned out instead?

Creepy, dark, gritty............... that's Warhammer.

I am sure it would have been more successful than WAR, but  Games Workshop deided they wanted something more WoWish, so they gave the IP rights to Mythic.

Good job..................... (/sarcasm)

  Calerxes

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9/18/13 5:40:01 PM#44
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by MumboJumbo

Some great zones, and classes, but ultimately too restricted.

Anyone remember this version by Climax before Mythic's version?

Warhammer online (Climax)

Wonder how that would have turned out instead?

Creepy, dark, gritty............... that's Warhammer.

I am sure it would have been more successful than WAR, but  Games Workshop deided they wanted something more WoWish, so they gave the IP rights to Mythic.

Good job..................... (/sarcasm)

 

Didn't Mythic just take over development when Climax died?

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  ste2000

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9/18/13 5:46:39 PM#45
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by sayuu
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by jordiincraas
they're prob shutting down to make room for the new Warhammer MMO thats in the works (warhammer 40k). Like what Star Wars did. Also maybe this means they're go back to the game they dropped for this one. The based on what if the roman empire never died... I wanna say Imperator? maybe

This is also true, as I tried to explain many times in the SWG case, you cannot have 2 MMOs with the same IP running at the same time because of licensing rights reasons.

Except Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are two different IP's created by the same company.

 

So where exactly is the licensing conflict???

 

How many gamers do you think know there is a difference between Warhammer and Warhammer 40K outside of Warhammer fans?

Correct.................but it doesn't even matter.

IP licensing is not about the product, it is about the name (brand).

As long as the game has the name Warhammer in it, it can't be used in any other MMO.

When you acquire a licence, you are technically renting the brand, in the hope that the brand popularity alone will attract more customers.

That's why companies pay a premium to acquire a popular brand (name), rather than developing games with a new IP.

 

Warcraft is basically Warhammer, but Blizzard changed its name so they can use  the same lore to make their game without paying for a licence.

You can copy a product, but you can't copy a name (brand)

Licensing is all about the name (brand).

  plescure

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Joined: 10/28/07
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9/18/13 5:50:18 PM#46
i always suspected that GW2 would be the death of WAR

If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!

  Theocritus

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9/18/13 5:54:03 PM#47
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by MikeB
Depressing. Despite all its issues, there still isn't a PvP MMO out there that does it for me the way WAR did. I wish they would have done more to rescue it.

i think they decided to shut it down instead of saving it as F2P because Swtor is not doing well with their awful hybrid model. Since Mythic is also part of EA they just opted to let it die. My opinion, of course.

 

I never played SWG but i remember when it shut down SOE said the license ended, then EA took the license and made Swtor. Now WAR's license is ending, i hope a better company gets revives it or make a better version. I would definitelly have played this game without a sub.

 Maybe Blizzard will buy it...Oh wait they already have a Warhammer based MMO.

  ste2000

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9/18/13 5:54:04 PM#48
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by ste2000

Didn't Mythic just take over development when Climax died?

More likely Climax died after Games Workshop changed their mind and decided to give the license to a more "experienced" team.

  Ravenmane

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9/18/13 5:58:10 PM#49
I bet there will be another one in development.  Notice how the producer stated that the license agreement was coming to an end.  Another company actually has the rights for the Warhammer MMO IP now (at least for Warhammer 40k).  So its probably a safe bet that WAR will shutdown but in a few years another will take its place or be announced.  Same thing happened to Star Wars.  The big reason why SWG closed down was because SOE couldn't renew the license for that caliber of an MMO (I don't really count clone wars, its more interactive star wars mini-games in a clone wars universe than mmo).

"If at first you don't succeed, excessive force is probably the answer."

  jawali

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9/18/13 5:59:21 PM#50
I have mixed feelings about this. I loved this game, than hated it, but will never forget the fun I had with the pvp. Maybe someone uses the WAR license in good way in the future. I hope so.

  garbol87

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9/18/13 6:01:49 PM#51
I shed a manly tear. Such wasted potential...

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  ste2000

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9/18/13 6:07:31 PM#52
Originally posted by jawali
I have mixed feelings about this. I loved this game, than hated it, but will never forget the fun I had with the pvp. Maybe someone uses the WAR license in good way in the future. I hope so.

Well, they are making Warhammer 40K................that's why they had to shut this game.

  IridescentOrk

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9/18/13 6:07:36 PM#53
game sux, and the warhammer 40K will fail as well

gameplay > graphics

  stayontarget

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9/18/13 6:12:09 PM#54
It takes a lot of time, money, and effort to convert a sub game to a f2p game.  I figure they felt it was just not worth it.

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  zaylin

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9/18/13 6:24:18 PM#55
Originally posted by MikeB
Depressing. Despite all its issues, there still isn't a PvP MMO out there that does it for me the way WAR did. I wish they would have done more to rescue it.

I feel ya, EA Imo once again forced a good game out to soon.

  HikaruShidou

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Joined: 9/19/07
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9/18/13 6:26:16 PM#56
It's kinda funny and sad how there are so many MMOs out there and not one captures the true need and want of gamers like games from 10-15 years ago. Ultima Online is a great example of what people loved, where is it in today's mmo? :(
  coldandnumb

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9/18/13 6:31:52 PM#57

I'm always amazed at all the "support" these games get when they announce they are shutting down. Maybe if the game had all this "support" over it's lifetime it would not be shutting down now.

I played war at launch thought it had potential but was terribly flawed in many ways and it seemed no one ever cared to fix anything in the game not to mention all the initial promises that they made before launch and never delivered a single one.

  Gorwe

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9/18/13 6:46:42 PM#58
Good riddance! (I'll treat them how they treated us...)

Now give me my Warhammer Fantasy RPG dam it! After this WAR hullaballoo, I think that WE, the Warhammer Fantasy RPG fans deserve it. A bloody good one at that!
  User Deleted
9/18/13 6:56:37 PM#59

@EA hope Nurgle takes care of you!

  stealthbr

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9/18/13 6:57:28 PM#60
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