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  shirlnt

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Joined: 4/29/06
Posts: 355

 
OP  9/18/13 6:03:35 PM#1

Let me start by saying I'm on my second toon in this game and both are dps.  The first is at Titan.  The second I started with a desire to see the storyline from a different starting location.  The second is at Tam.  After waiting the usual amount of time dps wait to enter dungeons (plus more for temporarily grouping with someone who decide he was tired of waiitng), I get into a dungeon group via duty finder.  Right away the tank starts griping at a player for not following his numbers and says he won't pull aggro off them.  I understand as a dps that sometimes my tab to target doesn't follow the numbers and it is easy to accidently attack the wrong thing.  People make mistakes and sometimes game lag and other problems don't help.  The tank and this other person are arguing as we go and I'm thinking this is going to be a miserable dungeon experience or someone is going to leave. (the issue of "end game" came up when this is ONLY the second dungeon in the game at level 16) While we are looking at the first loot chest, the tank runs on and gets the next group.  His health is getting low and since I picked up skills from other magic classes, I start healing him as my THM.  The healer worns the tank that he wasn't ready.  The tank lets it be known that he can get in dungeon right away and we can enjoy our 1 hour wait if we can't follow his directions.  I was the first to leave letting it be known that I'd rather wait another hour than deal with that attitude, and letting it be known he was the worst tank I'd had in the game.

People need to be nice to tanks and healers because they are rare in this game and they are what keeps the party alive BUT I'm playing the game to have fun and I don't need to put up with attitude from ANYONE. So....currently I'm waiting patiently for the next group and hoping it is as good as most of the PUG experiences I've had in this game so far.

  Torval

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9/18/13 6:12:03 PM#2

One of your very few jobs as a DPS player is to NOT hit things you shouldn't. You really have no other tasks outside of maxing your deeps and staying out of the disco lights. No excuses, don't hit things you shouldn't, don't pull aggro, and focus on what the party leader tells you to.  It's so simple and it's not the tanks fault because you couldn't follow that simple path.

Managing aggro for the tank can be tricky. They don't need DPS that can't control their pew pew.

 

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  DMKano

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9/18/13 6:13:06 PM#3

Solution - level up a tank (marauders level quick) and no need to wait on groups.

The hours dps waits on instances is better spent leveling up tanks or healers

  tort0429

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Joined: 11/13/09
Posts: 301

9/18/13 6:17:07 PM#4

I disagree with your last paragraph.  People don't need to be nice to Tanks or Healers (I play both) but rather people need to be nice period in general!!!  It's a game first of all and second, courtesy and kindness to others should exist regardless of the class, or dungeon, or level or what ever!

I was in a group in a dungeon when this new player to MMO's, a DPS class, started to pull everything in sight.   The healer said, I'm not doing this run if that DPS doesn't stop pulling.  I thought, wow, easy pal, it's just a game.  How about we just explain to him the mechanics, he may be knew and may not know.

Sure enough, after explaining it to him, NICELY, he was grateful and we did the dungeon no problem.  And had fun (imagine that, fun).

It's really sad that I'm reading all these posts about bad players, bad groups, bad pugs but more so the players who complain about it.  Really?  Complaining about it???   I can't help wondering if these issues are caused not by the inexperienced MMO player, but rather by the so called pro player who is too high on his own ego.  Maybe come down a bit and try to help others and be friendly and have fun.   Must be a real difficult concept, I guess.

 

 

  Foomerang

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Joined: 11/10/05
Posts: 5583

9/18/13 6:30:08 PM#5


Originally posted by tort0429
I disagree with your last paragraph.  People don't need to be nice to Tanks or Healers (I play both) but rather people need to be nice period in general!!!  It's a game first of all and second, courtesy and kindness to others should exist regardless of the class, or dungeon, or level or what ever!

I was in a group in a dungeon when this new player to MMO's, a DPS class, started to pull everything in sight.   The healer said, I'm not doing this run if that DPS doesn't stop pulling.  I thought, wow, easy pal, it's just a game.  How about we just explain to him the mechanics, he may be knew and may not know.

Sure enough, after explaining it to him, NICELY, he was grateful and we did the dungeon no problem.  And had fun (imagine that, fun).

It's really sad that I'm reading all these posts about bad players, bad groups, bad pugs but more so the players who complain about it.  Really?  Complaining about it???   I can't help wondering if these issues are caused not by the inexperienced MMO player, but rather by the so called pro player who is too high on his own ego.  Maybe come down a bit and try to help others and be friendly and have fun.   Must be a real difficult concept, I guess.

 

 



Now that is an ironic post hehe. But yeah I get what you're saying and I think mmos are largely enjoyable because of the people.

  Amjoco

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9/18/13 6:35:17 PM#6
This is common in every game. /shrug

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  remyburke

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9/18/13 6:38:20 PM#7
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by tort0429
I disagree with your last paragraph.  People don't need to be nice to Tanks or Healers (I play both) but rather people need to be nice period in general!!!  It's a game first of all and second, courtesy and kindness to others should exist regardless of the class, or dungeon, or level or what ever!

 

I was in a group in a dungeon when this new player to MMO's, a DPS class, started to pull everything in sight.   The healer said, I'm not doing this run if that DPS doesn't stop pulling.  I thought, wow, easy pal, it's just a game.  How about we just explain to him the mechanics, he may be knew and may not know.

Sure enough, after explaining it to him, NICELY, he was grateful and we did the dungeon no problem.  And had fun (imagine that, fun).

It's really sad that I'm reading all these posts about bad players, bad groups, bad pugs but more so the players who complain about it.  Really?  Complaining about it???   I can't help wondering if these issues are caused not by the inexperienced MMO player, but rather by the so called pro player who is too high on his own ego.  Maybe come down a bit and try to help others and be friendly and have fun.   Must be a real difficult concept, I guess.

 

 



Now that is an ironic post hehe. But yeah I get what you're saying and I think mmos are largely enjoyable because of the people.

 

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  shirlnt

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Joined: 4/29/06
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OP  9/18/13 6:47:09 PM#8
Update: Just finished the dnugeon and it was a good group.  Got the ding right after I finished last post so it wasn't even an hour.  Tank let us know right away it was his first run so another player helped him through the process and no one displayed a negative attitude.  We all worked together and made it through the dungeon with no problems.
  tort0429

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Joined: 11/13/09
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9/18/13 6:51:00 PM#9
Originally posted by shirlnt
Update: Just finished the dnugeon and it was a good group.  Got the ding right after I finished last post so it wasn't even an hour.  Tank let us know right away it was his first run so another player helped him through the process and no one displayed a negative attitude.  We all worked together and made it through the dungeon with no problems.

Awesome, thanks for sharing and ...

 

I rest my case.

 

  shirlnt

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Joined: 4/29/06
Posts: 355

 
OP  9/18/13 6:53:30 PM#10
Originally posted by tort0429

I disagree with your last paragraph.  People don't need to be nice to Tanks or Healers (I play both) but rather people need to be nice period in general!!!  It's a game first of all and second, courtesy and kindness to others should exist regardless of the class, or dungeon, or level or what ever!

I was in a group in a dungeon when this new player to MMO's, a DPS class, started to pull everything in sight.   The healer said, I'm not doing this run if that DPS doesn't stop pulling.  I thought, wow, easy pal, it's just a game.  How about we just explain to him the mechanics, he may be knew and may not know.

Sure enough, after explaining it to him, NICELY, he was grateful and we did the dungeon no problem.  And had fun (imagine that, fun).

It's really sad that I'm reading all these posts about bad players, bad groups, bad pugs but more so the players who complain about it.  Really?  Complaining about it???   I can't help wondering if these issues are caused not by the inexperienced MMO player, but rather by the so called pro player who is too high on his own ego.  Maybe come down a bit and try to help others and be friendly and have fun.   Must be a real difficult concept, I guess.

 

 

Thank you for that post.

  tort0429

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Joined: 11/13/09
Posts: 301

9/18/13 7:04:55 PM#11
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9/18/13 7:14:17 PM#12

Yup its just a game and the goal is to have fun.  You can spot the people who take the game too seriously and don't have fun pretty quick...

Some cant have fun unless the run goes 100% smooth and easy.

 

It would serve you and your run well if you would take the simple step of watching the dungeon guide on youtube prior to running.

Unless your in voice comms with the group and they can explain mechanics to you...things can be really difficult to grasp walking in blind, and explaining some things in text can be difficult to do.

Really to avoid most issues, simply watching the youtube guide on the instance will save you a LOT of issues, frustration, and negative attention.

Also people forget that a lot of endgame mechanics are suppose to be hard...its not meant to be easy.  People are going to mess up its by design.

  Mtibbs1989

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Joined: 12/17/10
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9/18/13 7:15:42 PM#13
Originally posted by shirlnt

Let me start by saying I'm on my second toon in this game and both are dps.  The first is at Titan.  The second I started with a desire to see the storyline from a different starting location.  The second is at Tam.  After waiting the usual amount of time dps wait to enter dungeons (plus more for temporarily grouping with someone who decide he was tired of waiitng), I get into a dungeon group via duty finder.  Right away the tank starts griping at a player for not following his numbers and says he won't pull aggro off them.  I understand as a dps that sometimes my tab to target doesn't follow the numbers and it is easy to accidently attack the wrong thing.  People make mistakes and sometimes game lag and other problems don't help.  The tank and this other person are arguing as we go and I'm thinking this is going to be a miserable dungeon experience or someone is going to leave. (the issue of "end game" came up when this is ONLY the second dungeon in the game at level 16) While we are looking at the first loot chest, the tank runs on and gets the next group.  His health is getting low and since I picked up skills from other magic classes, I start healing him as my THM.  The healer worns the tank that he wasn't ready.  The tank lets it be known that he can get in dungeon right away and we can enjoy our 1 hour wait if we can't follow his directions.  I was the first to leave letting it be known that I'd rather wait another hour than deal with that attitude, and letting it be known he was the worst tank I'd had in the game.

People need to be nice to tanks and healers because they are rare in this game and they are what keeps the party alive BUT I'm playing the game to have fun and I don't need to put up with attitude from ANYONE. So....currently I'm waiting patiently for the next group and hoping it is as good as most of the PUG experiences I've had in this game so far.

 Unfortunately There are many bad players in this game. The only solution would be to get into a Free Company so that you won't have to deal with them. I've personally had 30-40 accounts of tanks not even being able to hold aggro after my first heal when I'm in dungeons. Which essentially told me I would be tanking throughout the entire dungeon on my White Mage and for the most part; it was true, I did tank most of those dungeons on my healer lol.

 However, you as a DPS should be able to constantly monitor your aggro hold seeing as you're able to constantly see it while fighting. It might take much longer to kill them but heck... you got to do what you got to do. On the otherside like myself, I can't simply not heal. If I did that they'd die and we'd wipe. It's just about making tough calls and hoping that it works out in the end.


Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.

  Ridelynn

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Joined: 12/19/10
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9/18/13 7:42:02 PM#14

The aggro meter in this game is pretty nice once you find it.

That doesn't always help, and it doesn't excuse a poor player (be they tank, dps, or healer), but it goes a long way to helping.

  Furic

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9/18/13 8:01:15 PM#15
Originally posted by tort0429

I disagree with your last paragraph.  People don't need to be nice to Tanks or Healers (I play both) but rather people need to be nice period in general!!!  It's a game first of all and second, courtesy and kindness to others should exist regardless of the class, or dungeon, or level or what ever!

I was in a group in a dungeon when this new player to MMO's, a DPS class, started to pull everything in sight.   The healer said, I'm not doing this run if that DPS doesn't stop pulling.  I thought, wow, easy pal, it's just a game.  How about we just explain to him the mechanics, he may be knew and may not know.

Sure enough, after explaining it to him, NICELY, he was grateful and we did the dungeon no problem.  And had fun (imagine that, fun).

It's really sad that I'm reading all these posts about bad players, bad groups, bad pugs but more so the players who complain about it.  Really?  Complaining about it???   I can't help wondering if these issues are caused not by the inexperienced MMO player, but rather by the so called pro player who is too high on his own ego.  Maybe come down a bit and try to help others and be friendly and have fun.   Must be a real difficult concept, I guess.

 

 

I don't think it is fair for you to say that....

tank/healer takes the blame for pretty much everything. "tank didn't last long enough" "tank didn't kept agro" "healer can't heal fast enough"..... when's the last time anyone gets to complain "why can't you DPS kill the monster fast enough?" 

 

Tank and Healer needs to be expert at their jobs while DPS can't even hit targets in order at lvl 40?

 

DPS is the easiest class to become ignorant because they have no idea what tank and healer need to go through to keep the party alive.

 

 

 

 

  Amjoco

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9/18/13 8:05:19 PM#16
Gotta remember too that some folks are on PS3s. Tanks and healers in this case don't communicate very well unless they have a keyboard. Just something to think about if it comes down to it. :)

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  tort0429

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Posts: 301

9/18/13 8:46:51 PM#17
Originally posted by Furic
Originally posted by tort0429

I disagree with your last paragraph.  People don't need to be nice to Tanks or Healers (I play both) but rather people need to be nice period in general!!!  It's a game first of all and second, courtesy and kindness to others should exist regardless of the class, or dungeon, or level or what ever!

I was in a group in a dungeon when this new player to MMO's, a DPS class, started to pull everything in sight.   The healer said, I'm not doing this run if that DPS doesn't stop pulling.  I thought, wow, easy pal, it's just a game.  How about we just explain to him the mechanics, he may be knew and may not know.

Sure enough, after explaining it to him, NICELY, he was grateful and we did the dungeon no problem.  And had fun (imagine that, fun).

It's really sad that I'm reading all these posts about bad players, bad groups, bad pugs but more so the players who complain about it.  Really?  Complaining about it???   I can't help wondering if these issues are caused not by the inexperienced MMO player, but rather by the so called pro player who is too high on his own ego.  Maybe come down a bit and try to help others and be friendly and have fun.   Must be a real difficult concept, I guess.

 

 

I don't think it is fair for you to say that....

tank/healer takes the blame for pretty much everything. "tank didn't last long enough" "tank didn't kept agro" "healer can't heal fast enough"..... when's the last time anyone gets to complain "why can't you DPS kill the monster fast enough?" 

 

Tank and Healer needs to be expert at their jobs while DPS can't even hit targets in order at lvl 40?

 

DPS is the easiest class to become ignorant because they have no idea what tank and healer need to go through to keep the party alive.

 

 

 

 

I think you missed my point.  I'm not stating one class is harder or easier or more important then another.  For some taking is easier to master, for others healng is.  Some can't tank, some can't heal.   The point I was making is that regardless of the class ALL players should respect each other's roles and have patience and have fun.   You sound like one of those players that want to be on a King's throne and recognized as a better player  just because you are a tank.   That's silly.  Every role and every class contribute to a successful group or dungeon run.   The quicker you learn that, the more fun you will have.   

 

  lzanon

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Joined: 1/28/10
Posts: 313

9/18/13 9:19:29 PM#18
Originally posted by Furic
Originally posted by tort0429

I disagree with your last paragraph.  People don't need to be nice to Tanks or Healers (I play both) but rather people need to be nice period in general!!!  It's a game first of all and second, courtesy and kindness to others should exist regardless of the class, or dungeon, or level or what ever!

I was in a group in a dungeon when this new player to MMO's, a DPS class, started to pull everything in sight.   The healer said, I'm not doing this run if that DPS doesn't stop pulling.  I thought, wow, easy pal, it's just a game.  How about we just explain to him the mechanics, he may be knew and may not know.

Sure enough, after explaining it to him, NICELY, he was grateful and we did the dungeon no problem.  And had fun (imagine that, fun).

It's really sad that I'm reading all these posts about bad players, bad groups, bad pugs but more so the players who complain about it.  Really?  Complaining about it???   I can't help wondering if these issues are caused not by the inexperienced MMO player, but rather by the so called pro player who is too high on his own ego.  Maybe come down a bit and try to help others and be friendly and have fun.   Must be a real difficult concept, I guess.

 

 

I don't think it is fair for you to say that....

tank/healer takes the blame for pretty much everything. "tank didn't last long enough" "tank didn't kept agro" "healer can't heal fast enough"..... when's the last time anyone gets to complain "why can't you DPS kill the monster fast enough?" 

 

Tank and Healer needs to be expert at their jobs while DPS can't even hit targets in order at lvl 40?

 

DPS is the easiest class to become ignorant because they have no idea what tank and healer need to go through to keep the party alive.

 

 

 

 

heh you hear that all the time on dps race bosses or mobs.  bees that do final sting. dps didnt do their job. the wall boss, if it gets to the end the blame is on the dps for not dpsing fast enough.  many senarios where dps are to blame. usually when there are adds and those take a priority. not delt with its the dps fault. its quite common to hear that in ff14

  Cernan

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Joined: 10/13/06
Posts: 357

9/18/13 10:19:27 PM#19

The fun of duty finder.  Back in the day when you had to find your own groups you made actual friendships.  If someone was a really great tank or healer you added them to your list and ran more dungeons with them.  Now people get bossy in general.  

I have a 34 CNJ / WHM and 26 ARC.  I wanted a bard first but because of the long waits I decided to work on my WHM.  Most of the time I have patience for groups, but I'm finding a lot of people seem to be making tanks just to get groups.  Some don't even try to pick up adds and others try but don't succeed.  

I have had a couple moments myself of utter frustration and left a group.  Once early on in my cnj career.  I was in the 2nd or 3rd dungeon.  Tank wouldn't grab adds, DPS wouldn't focus the same target as the tank.  Either way the DPS were tanking the adds or I was tanking them every single pull.  After our 2nd or 3rd wipe to trash in an easy dungeon I left.  I apologized to them, but advised I was going to search for a more coordinated group.  I also left a guildleve where the tank wouldn't grab any of the adds.  The DPS wouldn't focus the bubbles spawning adds.  So I had at least 10 slimes on me as a healer. 

I finally decided to work on getting a GLA to at least 22, then debating on rolling up a MRD.  I honestly don't like tanking.  I'd much prefer healing or DPS.

  PsYcHoGBR

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“Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn.” –C.S. Lewis

9/19/13 12:52:24 AM#20
I play as a tank and if someone keeps taking agro I inform them about the little agro meter that appears under their class sign and tell them that if this white bar fills up they take agro from that mob this usually gives them an idea about their agro and so far its been good.
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