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  MumboJumbo

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Veni, Vidi, Converti

9/18/13 5:21:00 PM#21

Some great zones, and classes, but ultimately too restricted.

Anyone remember this version by Climax before Mythic's version?

Warhammer online (Climax)

Wonder how that would have turned out instead?

  Biskop

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9/18/13 5:21:59 PM#22
Originally posted by rojo6934 
Now WAR's license is ending, i hope a better company gets revives it or make a better version.

I agree, but I'm not hoping for revival, just a total reboot.

The world needs a good Warhammer MMO. The IP is just so awesome, it's a shame Mythic didn't understand it at all. A multi-fraction PvP game set in The Old World could be really great, and it's too bad a whole generation of gamers will now associate the Warhammer IP with this trainwreck of a game.

Sure, it had its moments and I was pretty addicted to the RvR for a time. But it had so many serious design flaws and some really sloppy made content that it was doomed from the start - especially considered the ridiculous pre-launch hype.

  Shodanas

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9/18/13 5:23:39 PM#23
Originally posted by observer

Swtor next?

I remember playing the beta for WAR, and the game kept crashing.  It was actually a good game too.

Keep daydreaming. 

Wishing a game to shut down just because you don't like is bellow low.

  User Deleted
9/18/13 5:23:46 PM#24

*heavy sigh* Knew it was coming, but still ****ing sucks to hear.

So much potential wasted; leave it to EA to squander the honor of such a prestigious IP. Creative Assembly has the rights for a new Fantasy title (iirc 1 game), but their track record with Empire TW and now Rome 2 TW doesn't bode well. At least 40k has the DoW franchise; boggles my mind how often companies **** up creating a game with the Warhammer name.

Could have held the game in development for just 2 more years and many of the problems faced at launched would have been resolved. Hell, even 1 additional year would had been great; but nope, EA had to push out the title because Mythic was loosing profits when they took them over. Overhype it and make the return on box sales. Then never give the players any real content update (really, you call LotD an expansion?!) and keep it at a 15$ subscription fee. It boils the blood.

I get the feeling that WAR pays the price for SWtOR's F2P conversation failure. ****ing ironic, since the rumor going around WAR was that our subscription profits went to SWtOR's abnormally high development cost.

P.S. - If I seem angry/ranting, I am and I love this IP so seeing it thrown away and pissed on irritates the **** out of me.

  Methos12

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Its better to be quiet and perceived as stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

9/18/13 5:24:37 PM#25
Well that's damn sad, but considering EA was slow to adapt the game to F2P and never really did it beyond T1 free trial it doesn't really surprise me. I had good times in RvR when the game worked as intended.

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  Minjie

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9/18/13 5:27:24 PM#26
How the hell is DAOC still alive, its alot older than warhammer, i returned to it a couple months ago and most zones were completely deserted, besides the cities and rvr zones of course... maybe daocs time is coming soon?
  Rohn

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9/18/13 5:43:15 PM#27
Originally posted by Minjie
How the hell is DAOC still alive, its alot older than warhammer, i returned to it a couple months ago and most zones were completely deserted, besides the cities and rvr zones of course... maybe daocs time is coming soon?

 

DAOC doesn't have to pay anything for the use of the IP, WAR does.

So, i guess, as long as it's making some money, there's no reason to shut it down.

Mythic was doing nothing with the game.  I can imagine GW might want to give another game company a shot at bringing out a Warhammer MMO that'll actually make money.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  niceguy3978

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9/18/13 5:43:28 PM#28
Originally posted by Minjie
How the hell is DAOC still alive, its alot older than warhammer, i returned to it a couple months ago and most zones were completely deserted, besides the cities and rvr zones of course... maybe daocs time is coming soon?

They don't have to pay a licensing fee for DAOC.   Heck games workshop could have just refused to renew the license.

  DeanGrey

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Joined: 3/29/13
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9/18/13 5:46:16 PM#29

Still the best RvR/PvP mmo (Yes, including DAoC) for myself. I consider it in my top three MMO's based purely off of enjoyment. I would have stuck around had EA not gutted near the entire team to try and save SWTOR's PvP.

 

The writing was on the wall that this was coming. The last month or two, if I understood the WAR forums correctly from my brief visit, WAR has had no developers assigned or any response from staff. In addition they had lengthy time cards removed and many of the origin stores didn't bother to list WAR things for sale any more.

 

I really wish WAR went F2P. If only it were another IP, one with less weight, then a company like GamersFirst could buy it up.

  WolfClaws

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9/18/13 5:48:36 PM#30
EA!  So awesome, wins again.
  rpm1986

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9/18/13 5:50:32 PM#31
It's not fair, warhammer had the potential to be something great, if it wasn't for EAs greedy launch when the game wasn't even ready. Yet they never even considered to make the game f2p to see if it attracted more players. But with swtor they made the move 1 year later. It's not fair that warhammer gets to be shut down and forgotten while the pile of crap that is wow with lightsabers keeps on living.
  firefly2003

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9/18/13 5:53:58 PM#32
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by MikeB
Depressing. Despite all its issues, there still isn't a PvP MMO out there that does it for me the way WAR did. I wish they would have done more to rescue it.

i think they decided to shut it down instead of saving it as F2P because Swtor is not doing well with their awful hybrid model. Since Mythic is also part of EA they just opted to let it die. My opinion, of course.

 

I never played SWG but i remember when it shut down SOE said the license ended, then EA took the license and made Swtor. Now WAR's license is ending, i hope a better company gets revives it or make a better version. I would definitelly have played this game without a sub.

Bioware offered Lucasarts 20% more on the Star Wars License to make to TOR, LA thought well were getting more out of Bioware so they went to SOE and asked them for 20% more and SOE declined, hence the closure of SWG. SOE tried to negoitate for a more fairer price but LA wouldn't budge. So blame Bioware for SWG's closure, not that TOR is doing well today anyway , and a little inside info say Bioware is trying to get out of the contract with Disney so you may see TOR get shut down in the next couple of years.

  Calerxes

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9/18/13 5:54:30 PM#33
If you read the statement it about Games Workshop not renewing the license, not that Warhammer wasn't profitable. Its probably a mutual agreement like with SWG as there is a Warhammer 40K MMO coming out. Though with it being left to fester for so long, business is a brutal world sometimes and the cost of fixing such a badly conceived and executed game far outweighed any chance they would redeem their time and money by attempting to fix it. Sad but sometimes you just have to let things die. 

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  spookydom

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9/18/13 5:55:12 PM#34
Am just sitting here looking at my preorder copy in my games collection. God I wanted this game to be good so much. When I think of what it could  have been and what it ended up like it almost makes me as angry as when Fox canceled Firefly.  The truth is as others have mentioned I think is that it just wasn't good enough and then it was abandoned. Still, I know it had more than a few loyal players so if you are one of them you have my sympathies if that means anything. Always sucks to loose your game. 
 

  Vladamyre

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9/18/13 6:03:01 PM#35
I played in the beta for over a year and a half. They took out about 60% of the gear that was in the beta right before the launch. You were able to get a full purple set of gear at lvl 11 from killing players and buy it off of merchants when you got the rank to do so. I really had more fun in the beta then I did after the game launched. This game could've been great but Mythic dropped the ball on it about as bad as they did with DAoC and their new frontiers and trials of crap expansions.

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  Soki123

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9/18/13 6:09:23 PM#36
Should have just made DAOC 2 like we all said years ago. Had some fun in it, but it still was a far second in rvr to DAOCs.
  sayuu

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9/18/13 6:16:16 PM#37
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by jordiincraas
they're prob shutting down to make room for the new Warhammer MMO thats in the works (warhammer 40k). Like what Star Wars did. Also maybe this means they're go back to the game they dropped for this one. The based on what if the roman empire never died... I wanna say Imperator? maybe

This is also true, as I tried to explain many times in the SWG case, you cannot have 2 MMOs with the same IP running at the same time because of licensing rights reasons.

Except Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are two different IP's created by the same company.

 

So where exactly is the licensing conflict???

  psiic

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9/18/13 6:17:54 PM#38
FREE THE CODE!!!!
  ArrowX

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9/18/13 6:19:30 PM#39
I played this game from shortly after launch till SWTOR release, sure it had it's problems and I played the gimpiest class of all time the SW! Why did I play for so long? The class was fun to play and open world RVR lead by competent WB leaders was the most satisfying of all mmo's I've played. Pity it's long standing issues (and there were many) weren't addressed.
  DeanGrey

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9/18/13 6:21:05 PM#40
Knights of the Blazing Sun ftw! The only game I ever enjoyed tanking in. I had a friend text me another article of this announcement. He hasn't even played the game in a year. We both knew it wouldn't happen, but we liked to talk like we would come back once the game went F2P.
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