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General Discussion  » Don't know if imma sub.. game is too boring after hitting 50.

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  Kaiye

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Joined: 4/20/09
Posts: 31

9/17/13 6:57:47 AM#21

Wow, I can't believe that I was actually shocked to read the original post.  As it was put in an earlier reply, you rushed to fifty - again as noted - probably grinding the hell out of FATES - and now you're bored.  I can only think of COUNTLESS other MMORPG releases where people rushed to the end game and get bored because they have capped their level.  You (and by you, I mean these people who are constantly the small minority that do this) should realize that the game was JUST RELEASED.  Patch 2.1 coming a bit too late?  You realize that developers can't just wave a magic wand and that content is created.  There are phases that development goes through - quality testing - translation - debugging - ect. 

 

There is plenty of content there (or for any MMORPG that is just released), maybe if you slowed down and smelt the roses along the way you'd have more enjoyment with the game while the developers are hard at work making other content.  Now I could care less what happens to FFXIV - or any other MMORPG for that matter.  I don't care if they sink or swim because there will always be a replacement for that game at some point.  But if you RUIN the experience by rushing through the game, it's your fault.  Don't blame the developers.  I have no idea what people are expecting of developers - they have created a game that is meant to be enjoyed and played through, it's your decision if you wish to rush through it and hit the end.  If you decide that, then it should be understood that you'll have to wait for future content.  Rome wasn't built in a day.

  SpottyGekko

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Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 3173

9/17/13 7:04:16 AM#22

I'll be subbing without a doubt. My crafting professions (I'm doing all of them) are mostly around L20-25 now. My DoL's (doing all 3) are all around L25. My Marauder is around L25 (got no other combat classes yet).

 

By the time 2.1 rolls around, I should just about be approaching L50 on some of my crafters...

  JudgeUK

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Joined: 10/15/11
Posts: 735

9/17/13 7:08:03 AM#23
Originally posted by Siveria
Originally posted by JudgeUK
 

You say this wasn't meant to be a troll post - yet you feel inclined to label the vast majority as stupid, you intentionally used the wrong development company name, again with a  derisory typical garbage description. Still reading down and complete idiots crops up - again aimed at the player base.

Consdiering all the stupidness I have seen being done at level cap, I think I have a right to complain. Those players are holding back my progression, and it bugs me even more that I can't even kick the bad players from dungeon parties I am in.

If you can find people who are prepared to put up with your frequent insults, join a Company and run with them. I'm sure there must be some out there who likewise blame everyone else in whatever group they are in. Doing that and you remove all your issues on other players. Find the right Company and you can spend all your time moaning together about other players, content, quests, story line...

But honestly, if you have so many dislikes about this game - just give it up. stop the backwards and forwards posting. The game is obviously not for you. Anyone who feels differently  you feel the need to argue against them.

Take a break, uninstall, move on. You'll probably feel a lot better for it.

  Siveria

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Joined: 3/11/11
Posts: 1174

 
OP  9/17/13 7:08:27 AM#24

Again, I didn't rush, I just did main story and side quests as I seen them. and the odd fate I came across while questing, if that is somehow rushing, I don't know what you consider not rushing is. if I rushed I would have been 50 like days after release. I've been 50 on my war for about 1.5 weeks. It does not take long to level if you do the quests and go into any fates you see on the way while heading to your quest targets. But even doing what I did, I still felt the game let you hit cap far to fast. You can go from 35 to 50 in a day doing fates, people have done it, I'll prob HAVE to do it on my 2nd class, since there is really no other way to level, But I find grinding fates about as enjoyable as watching grass grow. I hate the entire fate system as a whole and think it should never have stayed out of beta. Then again if there was no fates you'd be totally screwed for lving a second job, since its the only real way to level them. Well that or Leves.

I don't get why everyone assumes I rushed when all I just did was main story and side quests I found along the way, while doing the fates I happend to see while running towards a quest objective.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  Ahil6

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/01/11
Posts: 12

9/17/13 7:18:08 AM#25

If it's that bad for you, just go to a different game, rather than continue to argue how it sucks after 50 for 3 pages.

Have a good time, if it's not good, do something else.

Unless this is the only game you own, have on your computer, and are allowed to play.

  Siveria

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 3/11/11
Posts: 1174

 
OP  9/17/13 7:24:49 AM#26
Originally posted by JudgeUK
Originally posted by Siveria
Originally posted by JudgeUK
 

You say this wasn't meant to be a troll post - yet you feel inclined to label the vast majority as stupid, you intentionally used the wrong development company name, again with a  derisory typical garbage description. Still reading down and complete idiots crops up - again aimed at the player base.

Consdiering all the stupidness I have seen being done at level cap, I think I have a right to complain. Those players are holding back my progression, and it bugs me even more that I can't even kick the bad players from dungeon parties I am in.

If you can find people who are prepared to put up with your frequent insults, join a Company and run with them. I'm sure there must be some out there who likewise blame everyone else in whatever group they are in. Doing that and you remove all your issues on other players. Find the right Company and you can spend all your time moaning together about other players, content, quests, story line...

But honestly, if you have so many dislikes about this game - just give it up. stop the backwards and forwards posting. The game is obviously not for you. Anyone who feels differently  you feel the need to argue against them.

Take a break, uninstall, move on. You'll probably feel a lot better for it.

I dunno, everyone says I am a great tank, I avoid aoe's, interupt what I need to and use my defensive skills to reduce damage taken and such, and never lose threat. So I highly doubt I am the problem here. I'm not the dps that stands in aoe's and doesn't even try to avoid em on bosses, or the dps that comes to stuff undergeared (only really an issue in amdapor keep due to the 2nd boss, but bascally if the dps don't have certan average item level of gear your not killing that boss due to the nature of the fight. Look it up on youtube for an example), or the ones who don't even know how to play their class properly (monks and dragoons are notorious for this for their dps to be good they need to move from the side to the back for positionals, most don't bother from what I seen, or they just stand in either the side or back and never weave between them like they should be to maximize performance). Someone else who has reply in this thread has also said that the game as a whole has alot of really bad players, so its not just me who noticed it, even in my fc we've talked about it and they have said it too.

Its gotten to the point that I don't use duty finder much to find parties anymore because you never know what your gonna get, sometimes you get lucky with good players, but most of the time you end up with ones that just are well.. bad. I've had dungeons where leaving one of the dps dead actually let us complete the boss fight much easier because said dps kept dying by standing in easly avoidable aoe's aka they were just a bad player, then we wipe because the healer runs out of mana constantly resing them.

But yeah, maybe a break will do me good take a break for a week or something, I have crysta on my acct to sub so I am always ready to do so. We'll see.

Other than the not much to do when lving a 2nd and beyond combat class deal, my next biggest issue is just how bad the majority of the players are. I actually enjoy the crafting and gathering side of the game, I love taking out miner or botanist, watching some breaking bad eps or something on my monitor while mining or chopping trees for stuff. Mind you both of those classes aren't very exciting. Honestly I just love the graphical effect and sound when you get a HQ gather XD.

 

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  Siveria

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 3/11/11
Posts: 1174

 
OP  9/17/13 7:27:11 AM#27
Originally posted by Ahil6

If it's that bad for you, just go to a different game, rather than continue to argue how it sucks after 50 for 3 pages.

Have a good time, if it's not good, do something else.

Unless this is the only game you own, have on your computer, and are allowed to play.

MMO wise its the only one that interests me atm. I am waiting for Wildstar but that is a ways away. I do have a The Secret world acct and I never got far in it, isin't that f2p now? if so maybe i'll install it and play that for a while for something diffrent.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  psiic

Elite Member

Joined: 6/03/09
Posts: 733

9/17/13 7:50:01 AM#28

Sad just sad.. 

 

Ya know I was gonna post something condemning, but then I realize the ability to mentally process the wit  and sarcasm would be lost on 90% of the people that come here.

 

  NightBandit

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Joined: 1/25/07
Posts: 795

Make friends not money, then wealth will follow.

9/17/13 7:50:24 AM#29
Originally posted by Siveria

Am I the only one who is thinking of not subbing just because of how boring the game is? I have a 50 warrior but the current endgame is just completly boring. Leveling a 2nd class is also just as bad, no quests=boring fates or leves, dungeons are not worth the exp for the time they take.

I am really trying to like this game, but the fact they pretty much just made wow with a ff skin and made it even easier than wow is kinda depressing. I mean I don't mind a generic combat system but at least try to add something to it. Examples of this is eq2.

I could craft, but other than putting materia in stuff there doesn't seem to be a point with how stupidly easy everything is to get, even getting your classes relic weapon is a pretty big joke compared to what you have to do in other mmo's for a simmlar weapon. On my server, the only reason I don't have my relic is the cost of the materia I need is like 95000 a piece, and I just lack the drive to do anything to earn that cash, so I been spiritbonding stuff hoping I get what I need but thats getting increadbly boring as well. Easiest way to do it I found is take a lv 50 and just slaughter low lv mobs in dps gear for max dmg. Since it seems kill counts does more than anything else in the spirit bonding process.

I am just kinda at a loss of what to do, I want to like the game but, I mean there just is nothing fun to do. I've played mmo's that play exactly like ff14 does for far to long, I've actually played f2p mmo's with better gameplay to be honest. The story kinda sucked ass in ff14, typical squarsoft garbage rehashed plot they use in every one of their FF games.

Anyway, I hope this didn't come off as a troll post, I've spent alot of time in ff14, and now I am just having trouble finding anything the game has to offer intersting.

If anything I hate the fact there are no quests, I'd rather do quests and hop into fates I see on a 2nd class, then just grind fates the entire way like I am seemingly forced to do. Leve's are limited and don't even give the same exp a fate would, Dungeons are a complete waste of time to go into a 2nd time exp wise. Level 50 dungeons don't count since well, your level 50 and cannot gain exp anyway.

Then lastly the biggest problem FF14 has in my eyes: The playerbase itself, I'm sorry to say it but the vast majority (read about 90%) are just terribly bad at the game, which just blows my mind some of the stupidness I see in lv 50 dungeons. People sitting in aoe's, not able to focus fire on 1 target in a 4 man without a big number telling them which to hit, this is especally funny when its 2 melee dps's and you can clearly see who is hitting what, yet they still seem to need me to mark them. The aoe thing is especally bad, when the game pretty much beats it into your skull that standing in red stuff usually is a bad move, yet even at level 50 some people don't get it. I am not talking about ones who try to get out but their reaction is to slow, for all I know they could be crippled irl, but I am talking about the ones (read mostly dragoons.. why are so many dragoon players complete idiots?) that sit in a aoe and don't even attempt to move out of it.

Arg anyway this is kinda long and I am sorry I just needed to vent a bit. Hopefully the mods don't label this as a troll post because it was not meant to be.

What else did you expect from this franchise, they don't give a shit about you the gamer just using you to make money that's obvious. Lets face it everyone has high expectation for the older type themepark games this is no exception. I played one game from this company and that was enough for me. I new it was only a matter of time before post like this happened but thankfully I didn't say it as I would of been beat on for saying it. I hope more people realise this and don't waste their money on this game but sadly as like many games the front end hides the real problems in these games and it's time people stop buying them and supporting them and they will die.

As gamers we need to demand more and not support these developers so that they start to make a better games which we expect and demand.

The Bandit

  Kajidourden

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Joined: 2/20/13
Posts: 314

9/17/13 7:57:14 AM#30
Originally posted by Siveria
So...... overdramatising a bit perhaps?  Nothing New after launch of each MMO mind you.  People racing to the cap after each release and then firing up the "Drama Queen" record.  /Shrug

Except the part where I never rushed? if I did I would have been 50 over 2 weeks ago. I been 50 about a week just doing mostly quests, you do not see the problem because your only level 29, get to 50, and start to level a 2nd class past 15, and you'll see why I say its boring. No more quests other than class/job ones every 5th level, nothing but fates, or leves, or running dungeons that don't really net enough exp (the dungeons i mean, they have a realllly bad exp to time ratio). So unless your idea of fun is following around a zerg of people brainlessly clearing the Fates, Your going to be pretty bored after 50 as well most likely. I thought the game was pretty good myself until after I hit 50, and decided to level a 2nd class past 15 and then relized how boring it was. I also dabbled in some endgame stuff, pretty boring run same dungeon over and over for tokens, which the mythic ones for the decent gear have a 300 per rl week cap, and most of the gear takes 2-3 weeks of spamming the same dungeon atm to get them. Amdapor Keep is really not fun after you've ran it so many times you lost count. its even worse than the 2nd boss is a dps check boss, and half the time your dps just aren't up to par gearwise and you end up wasting your time entirely. For Amdapor Keep I highly suggest you do not use duty finder unless u already have a full party. I've had horrible luck with random pugs and that dungeon.

Wrong again.  Go to another city, there are enough quests for at LEAST 2 level 50 classes.  Or 48, since they seem to drop off after that.

Oh, and lol @ everyone expecting epic, robust endgame in a brand new game.  Good luck with that.

  moguy2

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Joined: 9/20/12
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Wish I had something positive to say =(

9/17/13 8:05:35 AM#31

Im not resubbing. I am in a great outfit with decent people but honestly I find myself alt tabbing and just surfing the net. I dont feel driven to do much. The graphics are great but beyond that it just seems lack luster, to me.

 

I did in the meanwhile fire back up everquest for something to do.

  Bigdaddyx

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9/17/13 8:59:59 AM#32
Originally posted by Kajidourden
Originally posted by Siveria
So...... overdramatising a bit perhaps?  Nothing New after launch of each MMO mind you.  People racing to the cap after each release and then firing up the "Drama Queen" record.  /Shrug

Except the part where I never rushed? if I did I would have been 50 over 2 weeks ago. I been 50 about a week just doing mostly quests, you do not see the problem because your only level 29, get to 50, and start to level a 2nd class past 15, and you'll see why I say its boring. No more quests other than class/job ones every 5th level, nothing but fates, or leves, or running dungeons that don't really net enough exp (the dungeons i mean, they have a realllly bad exp to time ratio). So unless your idea of fun is following around a zerg of people brainlessly clearing the Fates, Your going to be pretty bored after 50 as well most likely. I thought the game was pretty good myself until after I hit 50, and decided to level a 2nd class past 15 and then relized how boring it was. I also dabbled in some endgame stuff, pretty boring run same dungeon over and over for tokens, which the mythic ones for the decent gear have a 300 per rl week cap, and most of the gear takes 2-3 weeks of spamming the same dungeon atm to get them. Amdapor Keep is really not fun after you've ran it so many times you lost count. its even worse than the 2nd boss is a dps check boss, and half the time your dps just aren't up to par gearwise and you end up wasting your time entirely. For Amdapor Keep I highly suggest you do not use duty finder unless u already have a full party. I've had horrible luck with random pugs and that dungeon.

Wrong again.  Go to another city, there are enough quests for at LEAST 2 level 50 classes.  Or 48, since they seem to drop off after that.

Oh, and lol @ everyone expecting epic, robust endgame in a brand new game.  Good luck with that.

Once you are done with your main class the only quests you can get for your second class is between lvl 5 to 10 range (that is ofcourse if you didn't teleport to other two cities and did all the starting quests). After that side quests are scarce with an ocassional couple of quests here and there. To say that there are enough quests for two classes to reach 48 is just false information.

FATES grinding is the only viable method to level and that is why a lot of players are getting burned out.

oh and lol @companies still not getting 'it' and releasing another P2P MMO with a weak and only one type of end game. Good luck with that.

No lessons were learned from failures of past P2P MMOS it seems.

  Blazeyer

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9/17/13 9:15:02 AM#33

To OP:

 

I hit 50 on august 30th. I grinded my ass off and 11 days later had full dark light gear, af2 body, and relic weapon.

You think the game is lacking options at 50? Currently, I could see your argument. There are only 2 50 dungeons, 3 primal fights, and a VERY difficult 8-man "raid" to complete. I don't see why you have to label crystal tower a raid and not coil only because tower is 24-man. Are there now player number requirements for the use of the word "raid"? Infact it's already known that crystal tower will be easier than the ever-expanding bahamuts labyrinth.

If you're looking for challenging gameplay I would suggest doing what a prior poster said and start your relic quest, farm some darklight, take on the hardmode primals (enjoy titan), and attempt the undefeated (so far) coil.....

 

but first I would level your subs, not having provoke :/.

  jbombard

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9/17/13 9:20:24 AM#34
Not sure why you would even consider subbing if you are bored with the game.  It isn't like the game has been out very long, if you are bored already, take a step back, take a break and come back to it when there looks to be some more stuff you are interested in.  Who knows maybe you will find something you enjoy more in the interim.
  Nicephorus

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9/17/13 9:30:32 AM#35
Originally posted by Siveria
So...... overdramatising a bit perhaps?  Nothing New after launch of each MMO mind you.  People racing to the cap after each release and then firing up the "Drama Queen" record.  /Shrug

Except the part where I never rushed? if I did I would have been 50 over 2 weeks ago.

I honestly don't have a problem with people who don't like the game. People like what they like. But I am continually amazed at how out of touch people like you are with typical post WOW player. So you took a whole 2 weeks to level to cap, and that supposedly makes you some sort of casual who didn't rush? Please!!! As easy as it is to level, and I wouldn't dispute that it is easy, I would wager my house that less than 10% of the non legacy player base have hit cap yet. I hate to break it to you, but you are simply NOT the main target audience for this game.

  Theocritus

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9/17/13 9:37:21 AM#36
Too easy to hit 50 and no end game...Yeah thats a great formula for long term success.....
  Silacoid

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9/17/13 9:39:27 AM#37

You say you are upset that there isn't enough to do when you're 50, yet you're upset that dungeons take too long for the xp payoff.  Sounds like you like the leveling part of a game more than the game itself.

 

Also when you race to 50 like you did and others are busy leveling other classes, you aren't going to find a ton to do.  Give it a month and see what happens.

  k11keeper

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9/17/13 9:42:48 AM#38

So these people that say there is nothing to do at 50 must have killed all the primals hard mode and have their relic weapons and full darklight and af2? And are well on there way to relic+1?

Or did you just lvl to 50 and then come here and complain?

  Distopia

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9/17/13 12:52:18 PM#39
Originally posted by k11keeper

So these people that say there is nothing to do at 50 must have killed all the primals hard mode and have their relic weapons and full darklight and af2? And are well on there way to relic+1?

Or did you just lvl to 50 and then come here and complain?

A couple dungeons doesn't really amount to a lot to do at endgame,especially for those who aren't into dungeon farming. Most of their endgame activities have yet to be put in place. Considering that I think it's a fair complaint as of right now.

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  Mpfive

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9/17/13 1:06:37 PM#40
The game has only been out a couple of weeks, give it time. I think people expect a new mmo to be released with the same content that of mmos which have been out for years.
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