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  Mahavishnu

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9/16/13 2:02:56 PM#21
This looks more like a commercial than like a "real" review. Hm, maybe we have to understand the title of this thread ironically.

Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.

  Mr.Kujo

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9/16/13 2:09:39 PM#22
Originally posted by JudgeUK

Thanks for this. Not sure the jaded...........rubbish comment was necessary, but the review seemed pretty fair.

But my usual approach to games is try it yourself. One players perfect game can be another's anathema. Try it and make your own mind up - bearing in mind of course that your opinion can change as you progress through the game.

To me, it's a tried and trusted mmo formulaic game. How much staying power it will have depends as usual on:

1) how fast players eat up the end progression content v how quickly SE keep the raid/gear treadmill going

2) the variety of other end game content


Try it yourself isn't the approach I would recommend. Reviews are there for a reason and are very usefull, if you can find one with some facts about a game, rather than personal opinions. If I hate shrips, I can check if the dish has them... and not waste time, rather than buying the dish and after two bites claiming yep, I really do hate shrips. It is often as obvious in game, if I hate this type of mechanics and this type of gameplay bored me in previous two games I can just avoid wasting my time. Sites like IGN tend to have at least a bit more professional and objective approach than a random person on the forum. So at this point I agree with the uninformed jibberish, since most of player reviews are all about fun and feelings, but completely zero objectve facts that I could use to decide if I want to buy the game or not.

 

Review is pretty decent. I didn't care about the end rating though.

  cybersurfr

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9/16/13 2:10:34 PM#23
I like the game, but posting stuff like this is just asking for trouble. Oh well, carry on.
  akkedis86

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Posts: 89

9/16/13 2:16:37 PM#24
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by DMKano

IGN reviews - lulz

http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

9/10

 

IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

 

 

Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

Everyone agree about how bad EA and BW handled SWTOR after launch, till the server merge and the anouncement of content updates every 45-60 days, now the game is actually good, and probably with a few more updates, like the space pvp xpac or dlc, the game will be close to be that SWTOR mmo that everyone was waiting. My point is, MMOs need time but FF need and update pretty fast or they gonna lose an isane amount of players after the free month.

This!

 

But seriously. Let's be honest. Final Fantasy had good sales as no other high-budget MMOs have come out recently. It has a niche market, and you will see people leaving the game fairly fast.

And to be honest, FF is not a tripleA game. It has no staying power, and is largely unvoiced. I give it a 7/10 tops. It is incomplete, and lacks what other games consider vital. 

 

On the other hand, I've been playing SWTOR for more than a year now, and I cannot shake it. I will NOT sub to this low-budget FF game, and I demand quality for me to justify spending money.

While I do agree that putting things behind a paywall, even for subscribers is a bit harsh, a lot has to be said for the story, and immersiveness of SWTOR.

 

Some people might like FF: ARR, but I certainly do not.

Let me provide some facts:

1)It has slow, and dumbed-down combat at-least for the first 20-30 levels(Even worse than Rift). 

2)The quests are insignificant, click here, do this type of thing.

3)Quests are largely unvoiced, and when it is they have not even bothered with lip syncing.

4)Lack of PVP(I know FF has not had PVP historically, but this is supposed to be a big title.)

5)Generally the game feels incomplete, small and uninspiring.

 

They are riding a IP wave, and the game will die down once every bodies 1 month free pass runs out.

If this is a re-release, I cannot begin to think how awful the original was.

 

 

  Thorkune

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9/16/13 2:18:57 PM#25
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

Let me tell you how this will go from here on...

Any review that get 8 or 9 will be a 'REAL' review

Any reviews giving it less that that will be jaded and un informed gibberish.

SWTOR got very high reviews too though... for me personally review means nothing, the real test comes after couple of months for MMOS.

Staying power of MMO got nothing to do with high reviews.

Agreed.

I know the general public won't wait that long, but reviews should not be generated until the game is at least 3 months old. When FF is revisited in a few months, it will get mediocre reviews like all of the other MMO's get after a few months after launch. These devs need to find something innovative to keep people engaged in their games. Longevity is the true MMO killer.

  vzerov

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Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 118

9/16/13 3:50:16 PM#26
Originally posted by akkedis86
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by DMKano

IGN reviews - lulz

http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

9/10

 

IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

 

 

Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

Everyone agree about how bad EA and BW handled SWTOR after launch, till the server merge and the anouncement of content updates every 45-60 days, now the game is actually good, and probably with a few more updates, like the space pvp xpac or dlc, the game will be close to be that SWTOR mmo that everyone was waiting. My point is, MMOs need time but FF need and update pretty fast or they gonna lose an isane amount of players after the free month.

This!

 

But seriously. Let's be honest. Final Fantasy had good sales as no other high-budget MMOs have come out recently. It has a niche market, and you will see people leaving the game fairly fast.

And to be honest, FF is not a tripleA game. It has no staying power, and is largely unvoiced. I give it a 7/10 tops. It is incomplete, and lacks what other games consider vital. 

 

On the other hand, I've been playing SWTOR for more than a year now, and I cannot shake it. I will NOT sub to this low-budget FF game, and I demand quality for me to justify spending money.

While I do agree that putting things behind a paywall, even for subscribers is a bit harsh, a lot has to be said for the story, and immersiveness of SWTOR.

 

Some people might like FF: ARR, but I certainly do not.

Let me provide some facts:

1)It has slow, and dumbed-down combat at-least for the first 20-30 levels(Even worse than Rift). 

2)The quests are insignificant, click here, do this type of thing.

3)Quests are largely unvoiced, and when it is they have not even bothered with lip syncing.

4)Lack of PVP(I know FF has not had PVP historically, but this is supposed to be a big title.)

5)Generally the game feels incomplete, small and uninspiring.

 

They are riding a IP wave, and the game will die down once every bodies 1 month free pass runs out.

If this is a re-release, I cannot begin to think how awful the original was.

 

 

Too true, i am still enjoy the game so far, but i can see myself leave this game in 1 or 1.5 months at most.

There is just nothing to do except for dungeon grinding, or the unblievable retarded fate thing. crafting doesnt mean much, while the crafting system is actually good, but it serves no purpose if other aspect of the game is not interesting anymore. no pvp, what else can i do?

It does feels fresh for the first 2 weeks, just like gw2 though, maybe still better than gw2, but hard to keep players stay.

  echolynfan

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Joined: 1/26/10
Posts: 718

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OP  9/16/13 5:56:52 PM#27
Originally posted by intrinsc
Originally posted by echolynfan

For those of you who want an actual review of the game and not jaded uninformed gibberish:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-review

Judging by the words you use you are not posting the link as a way to voice your opinion about the IGN review, but to take a stab at another reviewer who doesn't agree with you. In true angry nerd form you make yourself look like a fool of a fanboy who is out for blood rather than to understand how the human psyche works and the fact that no two people using the same product will ever agree on anything, ever. I read the IGN review and found it to be written by someone who mostly leveled through FATE parties and took part in very little else for a decent amount of time. Hardly enough time to warrant a thorough review and the score it received. IGN is known for this, however, and it won't be the last time they rush through an MMO while reviewing 50 other games(IGN staff did get slashed recently) in order to just get an arbitrary number out that people like you can use as ammo against others.

I have no problem with people not liking the game for their own personal preferences but I DO have a problem with those who trash the game by misrepresenting features (like crafting sucks..items aren't as good as drops and such nonsense)

Members of this forum routinely trash games because they don't conform to THEIR standards so I'm offering a positive counterpoint to those. Also - I find many of the members arrogant and very condescending and yes...bitter and jaded.

Currently playing as Pete Puma on Excalibur. FF ARR - The best MMO I've played since SWG!

  drivendawn

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Joined: 4/17/11
Posts: 857

9/16/13 6:01:57 PM#28
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by intrinsc
Originally posted by echolynfan

For those of you who want an actual review of the game and not jaded uninformed gibberish:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-review

Judging by the words you use you are not posting the link as a way to voice your opinion about the IGN review, but to take a stab at another reviewer who doesn't agree with you. In true angry nerd form you make yourself look like a fool of a fanboy who is out for blood rather than to understand how the human psyche works and the fact that no two people using the same product will ever agree on anything, ever. I read the IGN review and found it to be written by someone who mostly leveled through FATE parties and took part in very little else for a decent amount of time. Hardly enough time to warrant a thorough review and the score it received. IGN is known for this, however, and it won't be the last time they rush through an MMO while reviewing 50 other games(IGN staff did get slashed recently) in order to just get an arbitrary number out that people like you can use as ammo against others.

I have no problem with people not liking the game for their own personal preferences but I DO have a problem with those who trash the game by misrepresenting features (like crafting sucks..items aren't as good as drops and such nonsense)

Members of this forum routinely trash games because they don't conform to THEIR standards so I'm offering a positive counterpoint to those. Also - I find many of the members arrogant and very condescending and yes...bitter and jaded.

Don't sweat it man after every beta there were a new bunch of gloom and doomers and they all left most likely these will too.

  echolynfan

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Joined: 1/26/10
Posts: 718

I ain't got a gat but I gotta soldering gun

 
OP  9/16/13 6:02:31 PM#29
Originally posted by akkedis86
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by DMKano

IGN reviews - lulz

http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

9/10

 

IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

 

 

Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

Everyone agree about how bad EA and BW handled SWTOR after launch, till the server merge and the anouncement of content updates every 45-60 days, now the game is actually good, and probably with a few more updates, like the space pvp xpac or dlc, the game will be close to be that SWTOR mmo that everyone was waiting. My point is, MMOs need time but FF need and update pretty fast or they gonna lose an isane amount of players after the free month.

This!

 

But seriously. Let's be honest. Final Fantasy had good sales as no other high-budget MMOs have come out recently. It has a niche market, and you will see people leaving the game fairly fast.

And to be honest, FF is not a tripleA game. It has no staying power, and is largely unvoiced. I give it a 7/10 tops. It is incomplete, and lacks what other games consider vital. 

 

On the other hand, I've been playing SWTOR for more than a year now, and I cannot shake it. I will NOT sub to this low-budget FF game, and I demand quality for me to justify spending money.

While I do agree that putting things behind a paywall, even for subscribers is a bit harsh, a lot has to be said for the story, and immersiveness of SWTOR.

 

Some people might like FF: ARR, but I certainly do not.

Let me provide some facts:

1)It has slow, and dumbed-down combat at-least for the first 20-30 levels(Even worse than Rift). 

2)The quests are insignificant, click here, do this type of thing.

3)Quests are largely unvoiced, and when it is they have not even bothered with lip syncing.

4)Lack of PVP(I know FF has not had PVP historically, but this is supposed to be a big title.)

5)Generally the game feels incomplete, small and uninspiring.

 

They are riding a IP wave, and the game will die down once every bodies 1 month free pass runs out.

If this is a re-release, I cannot begin to think how awful the original was.

 

 

Wow...do we differ in opinion on SWTOR - I find that game to be terrible in comparison to FF ARR and I'm a really big Star Wars fan...so it was doubly tough for me. I think you're wrong about the 1 month die down...I think the game will continue to grow and get better and has the best "potential" of any MMO I've played in years.

Now...this potential could be squandered if SE fails to come up with a very good, meaningful 1st patch come November/December - and I'll have plenty enough to keep me busy until then. Time will indeed tell.

Currently playing as Pete Puma on Excalibur. FF ARR - The best MMO I've played since SWG!

  icculus2112

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9/16/13 6:04:22 PM#30
Originally posted by akkedis86
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by DMKano

IGN reviews - lulz

http://www.ign.com/games/star-wars-the-old-republic/pc-816935

9/10

 

IMO SWTOR was 7/10 for the first month, after that 6/10 

FFARR is a much better game (initially) and is a better game after a month, but suffers from lack of content and a very small world.

When I started FFARR itr felt like 8.5/10, after I hit 50 feels like 7/10

 

 

Hehe...yeah..that review may have been skewed by the reviewers nerd-love for Star Wars. What REALLY hurt SWTOR more than anything was utter lack of content added in subsequent patches and a failure to fix some glaring technical problems along with a rather boring game world...bad crafting system...etc etc.

FF ARR will go the same way if SE doesn't come through with it's planned patch in November with Housing....etc:

http://zantetsuken.net/news/final-fantasy-xivs-patch-future-2-1-2-2-and-beyond

Everyone agree about how bad EA and BW handled SWTOR after launch, till the server merge and the anouncement of content updates every 45-60 days, now the game is actually good, and probably with a few more updates, like the space pvp xpac or dlc, the game will be close to be that SWTOR mmo that everyone was waiting. My point is, MMOs need time but FF need and update pretty fast or they gonna lose an isane amount of players after the free month.

This!

 

But seriously. Let's be honest. Final Fantasy had good sales as no other high-budget MMOs have come out recently. It has a niche market, and you will see people leaving the game fairly fast.

And to be honest, FF is not a tripleA game. It has no staying power, and is largely unvoiced. I give it a 7/10 tops. It is incomplete, and lacks what other games consider vital. 

 

On the other hand, I've been playing SWTOR for more than a year now, and I cannot shake it. I will NOT sub to this low-budget FF game, and I demand quality for me to justify spending money.

While I do agree that putting things behind a paywall, even for subscribers is a bit harsh, a lot has to be said for the story, and immersiveness of SWTOR.

 

Some people might like FF: ARR, but I certainly do not.

Let me provide some facts:

1)It has slow, and dumbed-down combat at-least for the first 20-30 levels(Even worse than Rift). 

2)The quests are insignificant, click here, do this type of thing.

3)Quests are largely unvoiced, and when it is they have not even bothered with lip syncing.

4)Lack of PVP(I know FF has not had PVP historically, but this is supposed to be a big title.)

5)Generally the game feels incomplete, small and uninspiring.

 

They are riding a IP wave, and the game will die down once every bodies 1 month free pass runs out.

If this is a re-release, I cannot begin to think how awful the original was.

 

 

The irony is this is coming from someone who has played SWToR over a year.

"fact" 1 also applies to SWTOR, which also has dumbed down content.  the GCD may be faster, but that doesnt make the combat any better.

"fact" 2 also applies to SWTOR.  The class story lines are great but the individual quests are mostly mundane.  The main storyline in FFXIV is good, and the class quests are entertaining (not deep like SWTOR, but thats where the main story is)

fact 3 (which is the first to actually be a fact) can be a negative to SWtOR because many (I am not one btw) feel that the voice overs for all the mundane quests is terrible and they just spam spacebar.  Its tough to dispute that this was a giant waste of resources.  

fact 4 (again, an actual fact) is a 'who cares' for most.  And its coming anyway.

"fact" 5 (not even close to a fact) is especially laughable coming from someone playing SWTOR for a year.  SWTOR featured tiny planets and overall probably less real estate than FFXIV.  SWTOR was also in much worse shape at launch than FFXIV when it lacked things such as guild banks or UI editing options.  these are the signs of an unfinished game.  Also, its not like SWTOR had a ton of endgame content either.

 

And the only reason SWTOR still exists is its IP.

 

I dont mean to dump on SWTOR, but this is why people's opinions on this site are mostly garbage.  You are disliking a game for flaws that were even more pronounced in your game of choice.  pot/kettle/black

And you mention what you consider to be the bad points, but you dont counter it with the good points, such as the crafting system, the armory system, the cities, the fact that the zones actually hold more than 100-200 people, etc

  icculus2112

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9/16/13 6:06:59 PM#31
Originally posted by echolynfan

Wow...do we differ in opinion on SWTOR - I find that game to be terrible in comparison to FF ARR and I'm a really big Star Wars fan...so it was doubly tough for me. I think you're wrong about the 1 month die down...I think the game will continue to grow and get better and has the best "potential" of any MMO I've played in years.

Now...this potential could be squandered if SE fails to come up with a very good, meaningful 1st patch come November/December - and I'll have plenty enough to keep me busy until then. Time will indeed tell.

The launch was too big not to have a one month die down.  i dont think it will be as drastic as most other recent games, but it will happen.

One big advantage FFXIV has:  one of the first groups to jump ship from both SWTOR and Rift were the PvPers.  This group never joined FFXIV in the first place.

  mayanking

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9/16/13 6:18:11 PM#32
ehh anyone can agree with mmorpgs you can't rate them until alteast 1 year in to see where the company goes with the game. all this early crap is just sill until you see them make changes to how they want the game.
  Purutzil

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9/16/13 6:20:17 PM#33

IGN and "Real" review. That made me giggle...

Sorry, hard to take them ever seriously, considering they are far from giving good reviews.

  echolynfan

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OP  9/16/13 6:29:32 PM#34
Originally posted by Purutzil

IGN and "Real" review. That made me giggle...

Sorry, hard to take them ever seriously, considering they are far from giving good reviews.

You may giggle but the IGN review was a helluva lot more fair and accurate than the crap being opined on this forum.

Currently playing as Pete Puma on Excalibur. FF ARR - The best MMO I've played since SWG!

  drivendawn

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9/16/13 6:32:06 PM#35
You know I am surprised that IGN gave them that score seeing how skeptical they were of it and a lot of there staff don't seem to care for FF games that much, or was that gamespot?
  User Deleted
9/16/13 6:38:03 PM#36

I don't take any professional review seriously, just like I don't take random reviews by forum posters seriously. 

Nothing beats watching a few streams, a few youtube gameplay videos, and a good solid reading on the main website regarding in game features (as well as developer roadmaps for the future)

 Anyway using these kinds of reviews are the same as xfire numbers ect...just use to push an opinion....

Even if I like the game and the review is positive...

  Distopia

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9/16/13 6:56:53 PM#37
Originally posted by echolynfan
Originally posted by Purutzil

IGN and "Real" review. That made me giggle...

Sorry, hard to take them ever seriously, considering they are far from giving good reviews.

You may giggle but the IGN review was a helluva lot more fair and accurate than the crap being opined on this forum.

Who's to decide what's accurate when it comes to opinions? As for ign's review, I would certainly hope it's less emotionally driven than a typical MMORPG.com forum post. A portion of the community posts simply to stir up forum PVP here. Even considering that there are plenty of posters here who attempt to be fair in their assessments, both positive and negative.

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  Voqar

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9/16/13 7:43:45 PM#38

8.6/10 is way too high.  That reviewer used to be with gamespy and I simply don't share his view of MMORPGs.

 

FFXIV is a shallow game with more simplistic than ever gameplay and all I can say is, give it a month or two, and this will be SWTOR 2.0.

 

There just isn't much to this game.  You speed level to 50 with a weak story quest, weaker generic quests, and fate grinding which is just xp welfare for dummies.  At endgame you grind a very few instances.  That's it.

 

Once the new game smell wears off, we'll see.  People thought SWTOR was the greatest game ever when it first released too, and with just about every other failure since WoW it's been the same story.  Start out sub based, too solo, too ez-mode, weak endgame, and in the end can't retain players, and F2P candidate within a year.

 

FFXIV has a lot less going on than the failed clones before it, has boatloads of quality of life issues, and plays dumber and faster than any previous clone.  Logically this game should fall even faster than previous failures.  We shall see.

 

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  Morgaren

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9/16/13 8:27:30 PM#39

All I ever see on this site is if there is a review that is written by a professional writer, then they are bought off. Technically "no duh" you don't pay a sub to view this site, or IGN, but game companies pay to advertise cause you go there. Doesn't mean they have to give a good review.

Then I read through some people's comments and either they cannot comprehend what they read, or didn't read the article to begin with. Then you got to deal with the score they were given, it's not a number that is just pulled out of the air, but to understand it, you have to understand how audit weights work. Let's say your auditing say...a bathroom. If you give the toilets a 2/10 cause they are filthy,  but you give ledges a 10/10 cause there is no dust on top of the partitions, the room doesn't get a 6 overall. Toilets weigh more than ledges in overall score.

 I might not agree with the 8.6 score (I actually kinda do, maybe 8.1, but hey I'm not going to make a big deal about it) but I am not going to claim that they were bought cause I don't know the formula they use when making the score. I imagine music doesn't weigh as much as graphics, and graphics not as much as gameplay, but hey I don't know. (BTW, neither do you)

 

Seriously, go to IGN, look up reviews, and start at the bottom of the scores.

Compare

http://www.ign.com/games/action-girlz-racing/wii-889218

with

http://www.ign.com/games/final-fantasy-xiv-online/pc-20000148

Is the only real difference that SE is a big time company? Action Girls Racing just didn't pay them enough right? Get over it. The game is not perfect, but it passes. an 86 out of a 100 is a B student, you got everything mostly right but you didn't make perfection. FF14 is not perfect, no one said it's perfect, but compared to how bad games can actually be, yeah it's an 8.6 easy.

 

One more thing about all this, any review I have ever read on this site from the forum posters is nothing but rants and raves and opinionated garbage. They weigh things with extreme prejudice and hit too critically and take off too much for things that are really not that big a deal. There is also too much misunderstanding of art design vs. graphics quality. Also when you have quest in a game that you don't want to read in the first place you can't get mad cause they are there. I see this all the time, people complain about worthless quest everywhere, but I just don't see it. Not every one is a enthralling winner, but that's kind of the point, your helping mundane people with mundane things. 

 

The actual written review was a fair account of the game, obviously written from someone who enjoyed themselves, which also speaks about the game. I do not thing that Hoard was the greatest game ever, but I did enjoy it. Like another user posted, the metacritic score is doing good too, so it's not just one reviewer who liked it.

  daltanious

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9/17/13 3:14:38 AM#40
Originally posted by JudgeUK

Thanks for this. Not sure the jaded...........rubbish comment was necessary, but the review seemed pretty fair.

But my usual approach to games is try it yourself. One players perfect game can be another's anathema. Try it and make your own mind up - bearing in mind of course that your opinion can change as you progress through the game.

To me, it's a tried and trusted mmo formulaic game. How much staying power it will have depends as usual on:

1) how fast players eat up the end progression content v how quickly SE keep the raid/gear treadmill going

2) the variety of other end game content

Agree with you about trying personally and have followed always this advice. As long game has 3rd person view and can move avatar with mouse, I will buy and try.

And was rarely sorry. ARR is not this case, total, incredible disappointment. Maybe because always enjoyed so much FF series on console, not sure. Maybe because purchased ARR version knowing I do not have to, could download for free client because have purchased 1.0.

Never in past have stopped to play any game so fast, got bored so fast by all aspects. Except sound and environment (with great weather effects). This is my opinion but I'm happy if game will stay because i'm sure many are very happy with it. Problem is if will make enough money to stay alive and possibly expand.

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