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General Discussion  » Breaking Immersion? - Hawaii Shirts, Sports Cars, Anime Posters?

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  drakaena

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9/12/13 11:00:28 AM#21

The solution to some of these quote "immersion breaking" features is really simple. RP servers. Guarantee Trion adds them. 

People are whining over nothing. Trion has proven to cater to the RP crowd. Look at all the RP friendly features they added to RIFT. 

I'll probably still play on a regular server since I like variety. But for dedicated RP'ers, AA is the game you should be looking to. 

Old school gamers who dismiss this title because of sensational threads are doing themselves a disservice. 

The virtual world is AMAZING.

  Xer0id

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Joined: 9/06/08
Posts: 342

 
OP  9/13/13 2:29:01 AM#22
Originally posted by Karteli
If someone takes issue with Bikini's being immersion breaking .. wow, just wow.  What are you proposing?? swimming nude, or swimming with 100 pounds of heavy armor on?  You have got to be joking.  Lightweight swimwear is ... tada!  Practical! (thus immersive and believable).

Bikini's aren't breaking immersion, beach parties, and uploading dicks to walls are in my opinion. I was just hinting towards a future premium, cosmetic cash grab in the future. It was meant as a slight-mild joke as a couple of games that come from grinding fairyland, take the premium route towards cosmetic items. Characters have undergarments, but what you need to realize, is that the Tiger Bikini and Polka Dot swimsuit is just one or two step away from bunny ears, and devil tails, angel wings, and anime related crap.

If you take a fireball to the face, do you expect your character to fall to the ground screaming? which would be really neet to add, an actual reaction. Most games do not go that far to create such detail, if you walk on snow, do you expect a snowprint to appear? To my knowledge Archeage does not feature weighted armour, that affects your character, if you fall into the sea and drown/sink, due to heavy weighted armour.

Players break immersion, and Chuck Norris talks are inevitable in every game. A good reason why in most games, I do my best to ignore the chats. Hopefully being able to do the same with these additional features, players can also bring in immersion as well.

Wouldn't you agree?

 

EDIT: I'm unable to find were iv posted about having an issue, about bikini's in the game being immersion breaking. I don't think I directed the post that way? The focus is on Beach Parties & Starbucks & Future-7Eleven - Does having a starbucks in your game, break immersion for you? It's in the game, and so will andy dick. mark my words.

EDIT 2: I know you think I'm hinting towards TRION, doing a future premium cosmetic cash grab similar to snailgames 30-D timed cosmetic item cash shop. but to be honest I really don't know TRION that well, and I'm sort of just poking at games that come to the western side with these horrific shops. I have no real proof or any of the sort, that it will happen or not.

 

  Xer0id

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OP  9/13/13 3:26:04 AM#23

POLL HAS BEEN ADDED TO FRONT PAGE

DO YOU STILL WANT TO GIVE ARCHEAGE A TRY?

 

SLIGHTLY NEW THREAD DIRECTION: 9/13/2013

Shifting the direction of the thread, towards whether or not the game still looks fun to you. Would you pay full price, or a subscription fee, or perhaps toss money at your screen at a cash shop, after hearing these slightly immersion breaking things...... that is... if they are immersion breaking to you at all?

After hearing these things about being able to upload any photo you want to your house/boat/shirt. Did this make you want to play the game more, or less?

Discuss!

 

  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1270

9/13/13 3:44:44 AM#24
It's not like polka dot swimsuits are something extraordinary. I can't see how they're one step away from cat ears.
  LlexX

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Joined: 1/09/12
Posts: 200

9/13/13 6:02:14 AM#25
Swimsuits are present in every MMO, some of them it's called underwear (when you take off all your clothes), in others like Tera it's called "plate armor" :p
  drakaena

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Joined: 1/11/06
Posts: 505

9/13/13 7:43:54 AM#26
Regards to importing Starbucks and half nakie anime chics, that's why I brought up RP servers.

Trion can limit what is kosher to import on an RP server. No different than choosing an RP name that fits within the fantasy realm.

Again, ya'll are making something out of nothing, imo.
  faiyo

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Joined: 4/09/13
Posts: 125

9/14/13 1:44:11 PM#27

Like I seriously think there should be one big thread stuck on the top of the forums made specifically so everyone can go cry about how this isn't a western game some more. idk why people remain surprised and announce to the world that they're too good to play it like the game is instantly going to disappear just because your presence won't be found.

Just about every ported K-mmo with these aspects are still around with players who enjoy them. AA will be the same, so let's let it go.

Or maybe we can start more threads about it, since I have a few lines left on my list..

  Xer0id

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Joined: 9/06/08
Posts: 342

 
OP  9/14/13 2:25:59 PM#28
Originally posted by faiyo

Like I seriously think there should be one big thread stuck on the top of the forums made specifically so everyone can go cry about how this isn't a western game some more. idk why people remain surprised and announce to the world that they're too good to play it like the game is instantly going to disappear just because your presence won't be found.

Just about every ported K-mmo with these aspects are still around with players who enjoy them. AA will be the same, so let's let it go.

Or maybe we can start more threads about it, since I have a few lines left on my list..

I think it's a healthy thing to continue talking about a game, more threads means more attention to the game. It's nice to have everything organized and in one single thread. If you have a problem with how things are said and done in this thread, than all that can be said is have a good day.

Two threads created this month, six-hundred-fifty overall in Archeage's arsenal. I thought it would be good to have a more direct attack on peoples thoughts, about the introduction to a full sandbox experience, which allows the player to upload nearly anything they want to some things in the game.

If you don't like what is being discussed in this thread, than again have a good day regardless.

Also a late reply to the polkadot bikini's replies: It really does not matter, please keep the focus on the real topic at hand. Starbucks in our Archeage, and sports cars included. Maybe nobody gives a shit about immersion, and more so about fun? Iv never played the game, therefore my view is limited on the KOR game same as most who have viewed, but it cant hurt to talk about some things. If you do not wish to make a post on topic, be sure to vote on the poll on page one.

Immersion is going to be a very important thing in the future, and while archeage may not feature such immersion. I'm curious as to why some people have as iv been saying. "Jumped shipped" aka. the first post on this thread. "I'm not going to be buying Archeage after this." Yet not everyone is reacting the same way, me included!

Thanks!

 

PS. If you clicked, and viewed the latest post - then this epic Archeage video is just for you! Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWqk3UXncM

  ravare

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9/14/13 2:36:30 PM#29

Its a sandbox that gives players customization freedom. When I played in the Korean version, I saw some things and I just turned away from them. No more attention needed to be directed to it. Hell in alot of MMOs I have played, I have seen racist, sexist and really bad conversations going on in chat................I just ignore it.......if it was out of hand, report it and move on.

 

Im not going to boycott a game because it gives people the tools to do something they want with their house. Or if they want to play on the beach in bathing suits or go racing on cars. I wont be there most likely..........and if I ever decide to wind down and just have some fun........i'll go join them for a little bit, then pop back out and go do the stuff I like.

 

Freedom........its what Sandbox games are about.

  Xer0id

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Joined: 9/06/08
Posts: 342

 
OP  9/14/13 3:04:15 PM#30
Originally posted by ravare

Its a sandbox that gives players customization freedom. When I played in the Korean version, I saw some things and I just turned away from them. No more attention needed to be directed to it. Hell in alot of MMOs I have played, I have seen racist, sexist and really bad conversations going on in chat................I just ignore it.......if it was out of hand, report it and move on.

 

Im not going to boycott a game because it gives people the tools to do something they want with their house. Or if they want to play on the beach in bathing suits or go racing on cars. I wont be there most likely..........and if I ever decide to wind down and just have some fun........i'll go join them for a little bit, then pop back out and go do the stuff I like.

 

Freedom........its what Sandbox games are about.

I agree with you, very valid words towards a sandbox.

Did they not lock off outsiders to the Korean beta?  mmorpg seems to have quite a few members, who have seemed to play in the Korean version of the game.

Anyway, turning a blind eye towards certain things, would of course work for most. Having sports cars, and Starbucks does not ruin it for me at all personally, having them in the game most likely won't bother many, as long as they aren't in all of the game, like many who have played have said. This is great insight to those like me who have not gotten a chance to get a taste of the game. Thank-You!

It is a sandbox first and foremost, and having additional things such as a sports car,  could spawn something different, and make things so much more fun in the game. Nobody can really complain about having more features, as it would seem you have to have your images approved before they are uploaded for boats specifically, not too sure about houses.

Thanks for your valid input, don't forget to use the poll. =)

  crack_fox

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Posts: 398

9/14/13 3:36:51 PM#31
Wasn't following this game closely but thanks for the info. Now I know to give it a miss. Cheers OP!
  Teala

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9/14/13 3:44:13 PM#32

ArcheAge was on my radar...then they added...

 

XL I thought was producing a good medieval/high fantasy type MMO - instead they are producing a K-pop version of Second Life.  So yeah...I'll pass.

 

  psiic

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Posts: 561

9/14/13 3:50:09 PM#33

Honestly I will wait and see, after the fail this game is quickly becoming in Korea I am really kinda over the hype of it all.

 

Lately Korean's have been a fairly accurate judge of a game's merits. 

 

Basically its like the old " Let's get Mikey to eat it he will eat anything.. " 

If Korean's won't eat it I"ll be damned if I will.

  AmbrosiaAmor

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9/15/13 3:40:50 AM#34

I dare them to put in Gundam vs Voltron vs Miku vs Longcat vs Full Metal Chemical Engineer...

 

I Kawaii™ dare them to do it.

 

  DarthRaiden

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9/15/13 6:22:59 AM#35

It has all the cool features and on top gives players many means to live out their creativity.

This must be the golden age of MMORPG's revived. The time which games have been made with fun in mind and with a twinkle in the eye.

It reminds me alot on one of the best MMORPG's of all times SWG PRE CU  just in different settings.

bring this gem on ...baby

bring it for the real vets and expert gamers  that founded this genre and let the "new player generation" enjoy  the rest of  these uninspired shooters that release daily lol

 

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  ronderic

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9/15/13 2:02:07 PM#36

I don't care!

 

There are many strange games out there, some immersive, some not. BUT.. if it is fun and I enjoy my playtime and feel that I get my moneys worth, then I will play it.

 

I am playing Archeage in Korea and even paying over $30/Month for the priviledge and I dont care. I get my moneys worth and have many enjoyable evenings.

 

The NA/EU version will not have separate servers for pvp/pve. Forget it. The game is structured for a mix of both playtypes on one server BUT for you carebears out there, it is quite possible to level, quest, craft and have good times without coming into contact with any pvp. You may find that you want to though..

 

 

 

 

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  DrCokePepsi

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9/19/13 6:47:49 PM#37


Originally posted by xer0id
SLIGHTLY NEW THREAD DIRECTION: 9/13/2013

Shifting the direction of the thread, towards whether or not the game still looks like fun to you. Would you pay full price, or a subscription fee, or perhaps toss money at your screen at a cash shop, after hearing these slightly immersion breaking things...... that is... if they are immersion breaking to you at all?

Question 1: Do you still want to play Archeage, after the addition of being able to make superman and hawaii shirts or did this sort of thing make you turn away from the game.?

Question 2: Did they go to far with sandbox? - Bikni + Beach Parties + Sports Cars + Starbucks - Upload anything you want, to your shirts, houses, an boats = Immersion Breaking for you?

 

 

- - -  Old Post Below - - - 9/08/2013

In my eyes, players destroy Immersion, but can also create immersion. Such as creating guilds, and taking territory, having things run by the players, for the players. and true in archeage we may have sports cars, and hawaii and superman shirts, but we also have Lord of the rings, Game of thrones, Hunger games, Player made content! - Legions of armies formed, to either rule the seas, or the lands. Guilds claiming territory, while waving lannister flags, or even underwear flags if you will.  

Archeage is a game to look forward too, with the most epic roleplaying we may ever see. It depends on the houses that represent. Imagine representing a certain trading company, or perhaps those douche lannisters that always pay their debts.

Here is a link to a fan made guild trailer, which shows off the level of epicness you can really get in this game. Below is a trailer of a guild in archeage called "The Black Storm Legion!" Comment by Crusader - //This is a guild, making a video that showcases their conquering of the new content in the game. Inadvertently it shows how awesome ArcheAge is!//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWqk3UXncM

The below is a picture which id label as an immersion killer, including hawaii shirts, and sports cars, to coca cola vending machines. it is a slight immersion-murderer, maybe developers are plotting to ruin the game, which we each have set our gaze upon, and it goes even beyond that. Players themselves are allowed to upload images as textures to customize the house that they own. But if you can look past the players uploading pictures of adult related images to customize a house they created. Then you get the link above and think as you should, players are both the reason why this game can be amazing, and can also be why the game is less than stellar. That trailer shows off, the true epic feeling that you can get in this game.

...Themeparks and sandboxes and starbucks? - OH MY!

Where do you stand with archeage, are you looking forward to it? or did the hawaii shirts/sports cars/anime-soft porn house textures/images ruin it for you?//

 

Thank you for taking the time to visit this page, it's really been a long time since iv made a thread!  //Almost 2-years!!!//

-

POLL:

DO YOU STILL WANT TO GIVE ARCHEAGE A TRY, AFTER HEARING ALL THIS?



No clue. It may be disappointing for me or it may not, after seeing all the disasters lately, this is the closest It's going to get to solid sandbox mmorpg for a long time. Mine as well keep my mind open and hope for the best. Who knows maybe this goofy shit will make for a memorable experience? God what the fuck is wrong with the MMORPG industry now....

  KeksX

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9/20/13 3:35:24 AM#38

ArcheAge always had and always will have steampunk elements. You rage about the car now, where were you when ArcheAge had the tractor since..ever? It's basically the same thing!

 

 

  steelwind

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9/20/13 9:53:00 AM#39

While these treads keep popping up about the same petty silly concerns about immersion breaking RPG elements, I must laugh because as I approach my 9 month mark, AA remains the most immersive MMO I have ever played by a very wide margin. In fact I would say immersion is AA's strongest trait and those whom feel these petty things effect that whatsoever won't take long to change their tune if they ever swallow their pride long enough to actually see for themselves.

 

  Gardavsshade

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9/20/13 10:18:52 AM#40
Originally posted by drakaena

The solution to some of these quote "immersion breaking" features is really simple. RP servers. Guarantee Trion adds them. 

People are whining over nothing. Trion has proven to cater to the RP crowd. Look at all the RP friendly features they added to RIFT. 

I'll probably still play on a regular server since I like variety. But for dedicated RP'ers, AA is the game you should be looking to. 

Old school gamers who dismiss this title because of sensational threads are doing themselves a disservice. 

The virtual world is AMAZING.

I trust Trion will make sure RP Players are taken care of, Trion has earned my trust much more than most Devs/Publishers.

The problem is AA is a Eastern MMO.... and I have a problem understanding/comprehending/feeling comfortable with any Eastern. "It's not them, it's me" is a phrase that fits. Also I really don't believe an Eastern MMO can actually be westernized. I am not a racist, but I now where my shortcomings are.

So like so many other Eastern MMOs, even if they are great in the eyes of many of you, it will not be played by me. It's better that way for the players of ArcheAge.


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

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