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  Rekindle

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OP  9/14/13 7:10:48 AM#1

I patched GW2 the other day and logged on to take a look.  Now, I realize we're talking about a fantasy game and its a game and its for entertainment.  As an adult gamer I can not play GW2 because it feels way too childish to me. 

 

Seriously, what age group was this game made for and its just made for the youngest? 

 

I just can't understand how a mature, cognitive adult could get much out of this experience.

 

 

  Corehaven

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9/14/13 7:18:58 AM#2
I don't play it anymore.  But in comparison what's an mmo you like that you wouldn't consider childish?  I don't see much of a difference in childishness or maturity concerning most mmo's out there.  Particularly thinking of fantasy mmos. 
  Rekindle

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OP  9/14/13 7:22:56 AM#3
I play Eve and The Secret World. I see childish things in EQ2 but its not quite so rampant.  I guess people like playing games designed for 7 year olds.
  Loke666

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9/14/13 7:28:19 AM#4

The game isn't as dark and gritty as certain games (like TSW), that is true but fantasy games and worlds rarely are.

I don't think GW2 is less mature than most MMOs, look on Wow, LOTRO, Neverwinter and the list goes on....

The difficulty is another matter, the game surely could use some harder open world zones for instance (or all zones could be upped like in the first 2 beta weekends) but that have hardly anything to do with being childish. The games old timers like me played as kids makes any modern computer game seems like a breeze. 

  shalissar

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9/14/13 7:32:03 AM#5
Originally posted by Rekindle

I patched GW2 the other day and logged on to take a look.  Now, I realize we're talking about a fantasy game and its a game and its for entertainment.  As an adult gamer I can not play GW2 because it feels way too childish to me. 

 

Seriously, what age group was this game made for and its just made for the youngest? 

 

I just can't understand how a mature, congnicatively developed adult could get much out of this experience.

 

 

It's no quicendience that they're selling cute and furry little backpacks on the market now is it?
You might be on to something, being so congnicatively developed. :D

  Yaevindusk

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9/14/13 7:33:05 AM#6
Originally posted by Rekindle

I patched GW2 the other day and logged on to take a look.  Now, I realize we're talking about a fantasy game and its a game and its for entertainment.  As an adult gamer I can not play GW2 because it feels way too childish to me. 

 

Seriously, what age group was this game made for and its just made for the youngest? 

 

I just can't understand how a mature, congnicatively developed adult could get much out of this experience.

 

 

 

The point of this thread in my opinion?  To get people to rage.

 

In the off chance that it's serious, check that ego at the door if you'll please.

 

I'm sure many would agree that making judgments of what people like (and thereby questioning their maturity based on one's own limited perception) isn't a great way to communicate with others in an adult society.  Human nature / cultural upbringing and all that is something that many try to outgrow before they consider themselves mature.  Analytical thinking of one's own flaws is more important than looking for flaws in others (especially if you don't know them, the experiences they had or where they grew up).  There is no definition in this post to indicate what you consider "cognitively" developed and there is no precise precedence for a reader to adhere to.  The intent seems to be just a flat out insult to anyone who doesn't agree with you and likes the game in question (or if not, then I'd be of the opinion that it may be a poorly articulated question seeking an answer of why someone enjoys the game).

 

Aside from that I don't know how to respond.  I'm sorry you don't like a game you could just quit, but instead decided to make this thread complaining that you don't like it?  Rekindle does not like Guild Wars 2 and insinuates that no one who plays it is mentally developed.  As you took the time to write it, I'll make a note of this.  Though I would request specifics of what you do not like other than just potentially insulting people and saying the game isn't something you enjoy just because it feels a certain way to alleviate the thought that this might just be a post to aggravate other people.

When faced with strife or discontent, the true nature of a man is brought forth. It is then when we see the character of the individual. It is then we are able to tell if he is mature enough to grin and bare it, or subject his fellow man to his complaints and woes.

  Vinterkrig

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9/14/13 7:33:54 AM#7
it is definitely a rated G fantasy game that has the super casual gamer in mind when  creating content.. all the way from pve to  "WvW"
  rounner

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9/14/13 7:40:56 AM#8
Pro tip: only young people are obsessed with pointing out the childishness of others. Us oldies envy their youth and wouldn't want to cut it short.
  Rekindle

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OP  9/14/13 7:52:05 AM#9
wow the rage here, I came here to discuss a game that is clearly designed with 7 year olds in mind. I am not talking about the audience....their own comments will speak for themselves. 
 
Not all games are designed with the same type of ease in mind.  I think the combat in GW2 is pretty sharp.  I just wish the content was a bit more mature.
 
Interesting how its become. Childish content in mmos is the norm of 2013 gaming and a testimate to all that has gone wrong with MMO gaming in the last decade in my opinion. 
 
  Corehaven

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9/14/13 7:56:10 AM#10
Originally posted by Rekindle
I play Eve and The Secret World. I see childish things in EQ2 but its not quite so rampant.  I guess people like playing games designed for 7 year olds.

 

 

I thought as much.  EvE and Secret World.   But when it comes to outright fantasy games, yea.  I suppose a lot of them could be somewhat construed as " childish " . 

 

The game isn't designed for 7 year olds though.  They would have a seriously hard time figuring out.  Not that it's complex but it's far too complex for a 7 year old.  I know because I've raised them.  I doubt even my 10 year old could fully grasp all the mechanics of that game on his own. 

  Yaevindusk

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9/14/13 8:05:47 AM#11
Originally posted by Rekindle
wow the rage here, I came here to discuss a game that is clearly designed with 7 year olds in mind. I am not talking about the audience....their own comments will speak for themselves. 
 
Not all games are designed with the same type of ease in mind.  I think the combat in GW2 is pretty sharp.  I just wish the content was a bit more mature.
 
Interesting how its become. Childish content in mmos is the norm of 2013 gaming and a testimate to all that has gone wrong with MMO gaming in the last decade in my opinion. 
 

 

Going from your last post onward, I reread the responses and saw no one raging.  Aside from that, the rest of this particular post is pure conjecture and opinion.  Though going on the Franchise's prior difficulty and complexity, it would be bad business to build it's second incarnation for those who are still in elementary school.  If you view streamlining as childish, then that's your opinion again.

 

If you're basing your conjecture on how dark and foreboding the original Guild Wars could be, then the second is very much about "kittens and rainbows" by comparison.  Though I reiterate that there is no (at least it's not known to me) definitive example of what is childish when it comes to games aside from a game that is built on a franchise with a precedence for entertaining children.  Yet even then one's "cognitive" nature should play no role, as there are many adults who enjoy these things as well.  Their reasons are their own and they are very much adults, especially if they enjoy watching them with their own kids as a reason.  This line is further blurred when you add different genders to the mix, as what is "cute" isn't always "childish" to either gender, and is much less so with the fairer sex (an opinion based on experience and observation).

 

It is interesting how an industry evolves.  Though elaborating what you view (and acknowledging that it's your own opinion as you have in this post) as childish would help when making these types of statements.  Some view graphics as a major factor to deciding the "maturity" of a game, some view content, some compare it to a past version.  Heck, some even view the difficulty and if you are forced into groups, or if it's streamlined in anyway.  Personally I make no such accusations and just play a game for what it is.  I've learned long ago that judgments of things not pertaining to myself (being a critic of myself) will usually allow opportunities to escape for me.  Things that will never be experienced because of my pre-ordained thoughts on the matter that prevented me from indulging in something that may be great.  If I find something not to be to my liking, I just quit.  The reasons are irrelevant if I'm just not having fun.

 

:)

When faced with strife or discontent, the true nature of a man is brought forth. It is then when we see the character of the individual. It is then we are able to tell if he is mature enough to grin and bare it, or subject his fellow man to his complaints and woes.

  User Deleted
9/14/13 8:16:14 AM#12
Originally posted by Rekindle

I patched GW2 the other day and logged on to take a look.  Now, I realize we're talking about a fantasy game and its a game and its for entertainment.  As an adult gamer I can not play GW2 because it feels way too childish to me. 

 

Seriously, what age group was this game made for and its just made for the youngest? 

 

I just can't understand how a mature, congnicatively developed adult could get much out of this experience.

 

 

Well, yeah, there are some "childish" things. But a lot of games have that. It's a game. It's designed for a casual audience to  be able to have fun, so there are some light hearted things. If you want all serious, go hang out in Orr. That place is pretty grim.

 

WoW? How about that one? Rift? You can wear plate armor and a bowler hat while you're out slaying beasts. Yeah, maybe EVE is not childish. What games do you think are suitable for adults, OP? Past games are okay, too. I just want to know what you're thinking.

 

 

  moosecatlol

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9/14/13 8:20:09 AM#13

Maybe it's the story that the OP finds childish. Could it be the lack of challenging content?

  User Deleted
9/14/13 8:28:54 AM#14
Originally posted by Rekindle

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I just can't understand how a mature, congnicatively developed adult could get much out of this experience.

 

 

So you can't understand how someone else can enjoy something you cannot enjoy? 

  Angzt

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9/14/13 8:34:38 AM#15

maybe you should play some wallstreet sim or whatnot, no idea.

 

in general: games and "adult" don't really mix. i am 39 by now and days are counting... anyway, i dont feel old or any shit like that and surely the prob with GW2 for me wasn't that it's too childish (rather it's problem with displaying alot of characters at once).

 

growing older is inevitable, growing up is optional.

 

 

i don't play games to get some "serious experience", but to have fun.

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  Tholdornas

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9/14/13 8:38:35 AM#16
To be honest: I don't really consider GW2 very childish. Of course, there are the Asura which are a bit comical, Quaggans, ok, I can agree that they're pretty childish, but other than the story being a little bit on the ridiculous side, when you first start a character and get introduced to the race you've chosen, especially Norn and Charr aren't too child-friendly in their race-defining motives (hunting, drinking, killing, the overall conflict of Charr and humans). Sure, there aren't any Dead Space-like execution cutscenes (there aren't in games like TSW or Eve, too), but the underlaying themes are mature, as far as I can see. Destruction of the world, evil gods luring several races into their lines; if you really want to look, GW2 just present you with a complete, maybe a little bit on the light side, fantasy world. And let's be honest: every game with a cash shop will, at some point, sell things that are just out of the context of the game itself, but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't break the immersion in GW2 as much as in other games, because the main concept of the world is way more mature than, let's say, WoW, in my opinion.
  rodingo

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9/14/13 8:45:18 AM#17
Originally posted by moosecatlol

Maybe it's the story that the OP finds childish. Could it be the lack of challenging content?

Let the OP articulate himself further before you put words into his mouth.

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  dorugu

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9/14/13 8:51:48 AM#18

y dont yu say what parts of gw2 thts to childish and how do yu want it to b changed as to not be childish?

if it is to childish as yu say y did yu buy it in the 1st place?:) if yu want blood and gore evrywhere then go find a game with that or make yur own :)

sorry op broad sweeping generallisations like this aint precisely constructive

  zipzap

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9/14/13 9:00:07 AM#19

i havent played the game in awhile either... havent played anything in awhile...

anyways you keep saying its childish but not what makes it childish?

  JoeyMMO

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To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

9/14/13 9:20:21 AM#20
Originally posted by Rekindle
wow the rage here, I came here to discuss a game that is clearly designed with 7 year olds in mind. I am not talking about the audience....their own comments will speak for themselves. 
 
Not all games are designed with the same type of ease in mind.  I think the combat in GW2 is pretty sharp.  I just wish the content was a bit more mature.
 
Interesting how its become. Childish content in mmos is the norm of 2013 gaming and a testimate to all that has gone wrong with MMO gaming in the last decade in my opinion. 
 

You seriously overrate the average 7 year old kid. If you had a 7 year kid old you'd know how silly your statements are. If you do have a 7 year old kid, then let him create a character and level it to 80, or just let him make or even only look up a build, use it and do some PvP with it without any help from anyone older. You won't need long before you figure out how far from the truth you are.

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