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News & Features Discussion  » Firefall: PvP 'Shut Off' for the Time Being

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9/12/13 6:24:40 PM#41
Originally posted by describable

Money is on FF14 following suit in 4 months time...


just saying.

Following suit in what exactly, the pvp they don't have?


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9/12/13 7:30:28 PM#42
how do you guys STILL have any money left? never seen a company with such a lack of focus


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9/12/13 8:04:44 PM#43

The crap part is they nerfed so much of the game for pvp. now that pvp is gone i hope they un-nerf the weapons and skills and guns.


Nerfing PvE for PvP is always 100% fail. Those two should be separate sets of skills /guns so one never affects the other. 


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9/12/13 10:04:02 PM#44

Funny, i didn't played pvp all this time cause i was just waiting for the oppvp, now i can't duel, ok then time to find another game



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9/12/13 10:11:30 PM#45

The PVE is good. The leveling used to be better when there was a tech tree. Unfortunate that the devs are too proud to put the tree back and change direction. 

The pvp was ok, but not amazing. Good that they are reevaluating it. Hopefully they do the same and put the tech-tree back.


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Joined: 8/27/04
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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

9/12/13 10:13:05 PM#46

IMO pvp will never attract enough players,unless it is the ONLY facet worth playing in the game,which would detract from the role playing aspect of this genre.

FFXI has solid pvp,most probably don't know it,players don't care about it.

You would think players care most about role playing aspects but truth is they ONLY care about having the best gear and sadly that is the truth.That is what churns that one certain game,players keep coming back to grind better pvp gear.

Point is to think they  can create interest through an overhaul,might be possible but will not make for a better game.The fun of the game and your player is what matters,not focusing solely on pvp.
Samoan Diamond


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9/12/13 11:39:51 PM#47
lol the game sucks suprised people still play.

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9/12/13 11:56:37 PM#48
Originally posted by Razeekster
This game has had one problem after the other... Red 5 has to be made up out of the least competent developers in the industry. They were in beta for literally years, and are still having major problems and don't seem to know what they want their game to even be.

you clearly have never played Darkfall or Mortal online lol.


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Joined: 12/08/05
Posts: 395

9/13/13 1:03:05 AM#49

I thought the game had some interesting concepts, but they got a little too grindy for my taste when they added item decay plus the horrible grind to re-create said items.


Of course, the reason why I even looked at this game at all was the potential for world PvP; Clans fighting over resources and such, perhaps even area control. They seemed to abandon that very early to focus on instanced PvP arena's, which is just not my thing.


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Joined: 8/26/13
Posts: 225

Bort bort bort!

9/13/13 1:33:30 AM#50

This dev team has wasted ridiculous amounts of time & money trying to get this thing off the ground. They have absolutely no focus whatsoever.

BTW I can't find anything about them not being able to make the world as big as originally planned, and I'm having no luck with google.


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9/13/13 2:46:41 AM#51
Originally posted by Razeekster
They were in beta for literally years, and are still having major problems and don't seem to know what they want their game to even be.

You got this one wrong, the game is STILL in beta, and rightfully so. Open beta != Release, please learn this already people.

However I do agree on the fact that red5 doesnt really have any clear view of what they want to do with their game.


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9/13/13 2:56:27 AM#52
Kudos to them for having the balls to admit that there's a problem and to take such drastic action to fix it.


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Posts: 395

I am, I think?

9/13/13 4:43:01 AM#53
Originally posted by cnutemp
Woah talk about vocal minority, the correlation between the people that played pvp (less than 3%) and the percentage of angry posts in this thread are amusing.

That's the way it usually is in MMOs in my experience. PvE players spend more time in game playing than on the forums while PvP players spend more time complaining on forums than playing. It only makes sense. Forum posting is a type of PvP. It's anonymous, confrontational, and often turns into a battleground of poster vs poster. Guess who's more attracted to that?


I think this may be the first time I've actually seen a developer give a concrete number as far as PvE vs PvP population. It would be awesome to see other games let us know those numbers as well. And then to actually commit the development team based on that data? Wow, I think that's great.


Insert random misqoute here


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There is no ''I'' in teamplay.

9/13/13 6:19:57 AM#54

Stupid as all hell not to develop FireFall with Open World PvP in mind from the start.

Could've been great, but then again most devs don't have a good and thought-out vision for their games. :+: #kompaniet @ QuakeNet


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May the game be ever in your favor.

9/13/13 6:23:06 AM#55
Originally posted by indef
Originally posted by Razeekster
This game has had one problem after the other... Red 5 has to be made up out of the least competent developers in the industry. They were in beta for literally years, and are still having major problems and don't seem to know what they want their game to even be.

you clearly have never played Darkfall or Mortal online lol.

The thing is, the developers of Darkfall and Mortal Online didn't have the money that Red 5 has had. Red 5 has wasted millions upon millions.



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Posts: 665

9/13/13 9:22:18 AM#56
They remove jetball partly due to it requiring skill. Man these guys are dumb. You want esport, yet a no skill needed esport. Can't wait to see what joke of a system they put in that reuires no skill.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
The reviewer has a mishapen head
Which means his opinion is skewed

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9/13/13 9:37:53 AM#57
The worst part is theyre charging people for things, and then still calling it a beta. Much like PVP, they need to remove the selling of things until they deliver a complete product. If they need money they should ask for investments.
As for PVP, the action style had potential. Its fun to jet around and shoot stuff. Theres just nothing to actualy do.
  User Deleted
9/13/13 9:40:22 AM#58
Originally posted by ichihaifu
Originally posted by Razeekster
They were in beta for literally years, and are still having major problems and don't seem to know what they want their game to even be.

You got this one wrong, the game is STILL in beta, and rightfully so. Open beta != Release, please learn this already people.

However I do agree on the fact that red5 doesnt really have any clear view of what they want to do with their game.


Youre just perpetuating their deception. They are selling in game items and services. Its open to the public. Thus its not beta.


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9/13/13 9:56:11 AM#59

Firefall is a PvE game. They do a great job removing unused and useless minior features (PvP) and making all the work to release better core features, all the PvE of the game: invasions, Chosen attacks, repulsing melding , ARES missions.

Good job!


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Posts: 212

9/13/13 12:57:42 PM#60

Is there a way to turn off or switch the look of aiming reticle? I hate the default look.

Is there a way to switch third person view camera from holding weapon on right hand side to the left hand? 

I wanted to try pvp but could never get passed the "waiting for players" queue!

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