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  nariusseldon

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OP  9/12/13 11:23:07 AM#21
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Robokapp
Originally posted by nariusseldon
 I finished the solo campaign ... i like that game a lot.

now what ?

This is precisely the response I give when people say "If you want to solo you should play a SPRPG." When you are done you are done... then what do you do.

You do what you would have done if it is a SP RPG. You finish the game and move on. Given there is a pretty big list people have already discussed, there are plenty of other solo MMORPGs one can tackle next.

Or you can play some other types of games, or even read a book. it is not like one has to play a single game forever. In fact, most people don't.

  sanshi44

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9/12/13 11:27:00 AM#22
If you wanna play a solo MMORPG why dont you just play a Single player game RPG they are better made than the online ones because they dont need to take into account of other players. This is why i dont understand the current industry why are we making MMORPG for solos you cant make them aswell as games focused on one person because u need 2 take into account of other players why dont they aim for the audience that acualy wants to play a MMORPG instead of a Single player game. For example Skyrim offers a much better single player experience than say WoW because it is focus round the singple player experience.
  nariusseldon

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OP  9/12/13 11:27:43 AM#23
Originally posted by Po_gg

As much as I like Marvel, I still can't accept they've made a lame diablo clone (ok, mh:ua clone) instead of a real Marvel mmo :) so from the OP's two I'd pick STO. Great Seasons, after that many good Foundry missions. Though I must say STO is cool as an mmo as well.

 

Later you wrote you skipped TOR on purpose - I can understand that, I'm still angry at TOR too (or at myself for buying 2 boxes...) but as solo, single player mmo TOR is the winner, hands down.

8 different storylines (at least 2 of them is great, and 2 more is ok), and it's solo. For real. If you close chat, trash everything at the vendor, don't use GTN, then you have a solo game all the way to the end. And I don't mean "you can play it solo" like in other mmo's, it is solo :) you don't need any interaction or help from anyone (even heroic +4 is soloable easily)

I actually like the fact that MH is a Diablo style game, then a DCUO type MMO. It is refreshing. But of course that is just my personal preferences. STO does have a lot of content ... i am no where close to finish it, and they are adding more already.

Yeah, i skipped TOR on purpose. I really don't like the SP portion of the game. The problem are two fold .. .first the combat is meh .. i don't feel like a Jedi when i am fighting 2-3 lame "labor worker". There are tons of SW games that have done jedi combat better. Secondly, while i think the writing of the story is pretty good, the presentation is not up to par. May be i expect too much from Bioware.

You don't have to convince me that TOR can be a solo game. Many of these games can .. and i have played them as such. But to be fair, since TOR is F2P now, may be i will give it a try.

 

 

  nariusseldon

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OP  9/12/13 11:28:52 AM#24
Originally posted by sanshi44
If you wanna play a solo MMORPG why dont you just play a Single player game RPG

I am glad you asked. I have made a topic just to answer that questions.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5903519/thread/393247#5903519

  Ridelynn

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9/12/13 11:31:28 AM#25

I can't think of a single MMO that has a better single-player story than most single-player games. There are many MMOs that are solo friendly, and have great story lines that are accessible solo. But in a single player game, that and the combat/action are all you have, and the good ones are really good at it.

Take into account the graphics/engine sacrifices you have to make to make a MMO online game, and I can't think of one that looks better than an equivalent-generation MMO either (although Vindictus comes the closest I think).

And then add in the subscription/cash shop/what have you, on top of the box fee. Single player games may have DLC, but the main story isn't usually locked behind DLC unless that's it's only monetization (I can think of a few iOS single player games like this, free for the first chapter, then pay as you go for the story). You pay once for the single player game, you pay continually for the MMO. Even the F2P ones - you have some very inconvenient convenience factors locked out unless you decide to pay for them.

Taking all that into account, I think if your in it for "the best" single player experience, your better served by single player games. If the purpose of this thread is just a thought experiment, though, then have at it; I'd probably say either Neverwinter or SWTOR - both had decent storylines (SWTOR has multiple ones), and I never had to group up at all through the entire storyline or to max level.

  grhuff

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9/12/13 11:31:39 AM#26
I'd recommend AOC and TSW.
  nariusseldon

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OP  9/12/13 11:35:30 AM#27
Originally posted by grhuff
I'd recommend AOC and TSW.

I have never thought of AoC since it is a bit old already. It is F2P right? May be i should check it out too.

  nariusseldon

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OP  9/12/13 11:45:45 AM#28
Originally posted by Ridelynn

I can't think of a single MMO that has a better single-player story than most single-player games. There are many MMOs that are solo friendly, and have great story lines that are accessible solo. But in a single player game, that and the combat/action are all you have, and the good ones are really good at it.

Take into account the graphics/engine sacrifices you have to make to make a MMO online game, and I can't think of one that looks better than an equivalent-generation MMO either (although Vindictus comes the closest I think).

And then add in the subscription/cash shop/what have you, on top of the box fee. Single player games may have DLC, but the main story isn't usually locked behind DLC unless that's it's only monetization (I can think of a few iOS single player games like this, free for the first chapter, then pay as you go for the story). You pay once for the single player game, you pay continually for the MMO. Even the F2P ones - you have some very inconvenient convenience factors locked out unless you decide to pay for them.

Taking all that into account, I think if your in it for "the best" single player experience, your better served by single player games. If the purpose of this thread is just a thought experiment, though, then have at it; I'd probably say either Neverwinter or SWTOR - both had decent storylines (SWTOR has multiple ones), and I never had to group up at all through the entire storyline or to max level.

Who says i don't play SP games? The point is that one cannot always play the "best" experience because sooner or later, you will finish the game.

Let's say i like Dishonored better than Splinter Cell Blacklist. So Dishonor .. in this case .. is "best" for me. Do i just play Dishonored and ignore Blacklist? Of course not. Two reasons. One, i finished Dishonored. Second, while Dishonored is better (for me), blacklist is fun for me too.

The same applies to MMOs. For example, D3 is much more polished, and i like it better than Marvel Heroes. But i can't just play D3 forever and nothing else, can i? So i play MH as a SP game too, and that gives me 30 hours of free fun. I don't see a reason why i should not do so.

 

  Po_gg

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9/12/13 11:50:19 AM#29
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by grhuff
I'd recommend AOC and TSW.

I have never thought of AoC since it is a bit old already. It is F2P right? May be i should check it out too.

F2p, with a pretty decent model might I add.

But I wouldn't call it single player. It has an awesome storyline (imo of course) and many many well-written side stories, so it's definitely worth a playthrough (did I mention it's free? lol).

You can do a lot in solo mode - but "a lot" is not equal single player game, almost every bigger storyline ends up in group quests, or leading you into instances for the conclusion. It's not a huge problem though, AoC has nice instances with fun mechanics :)

  Siug

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9/12/13 11:52:42 AM#30
Definitely TSW. Most content is solo with great story telling and quite a few excellent quests.
  Ridelynn

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9/12/13 11:53:06 AM#31


Originally posted by nariusseldon
Who says i don't play SP games? The point is that one cannot always play the "best" experience because sooner or later, you will finish the game.

Let's say i like Dishonored better than Splinter Cell Blacklist. So Dishonor .. in this case .. is "best" for me. Do i just play Dishonored and ignore Blacklist? Of course not. Two reasons. One, i finished Dishonored. Second, while Dishonored is better (for me), blacklist is fun for me too.

The same applies to MMOs. For example, D3 is much more polished, and i like it better than Marvel Heroes. But i can't just play D3 forever and nothing else, can i? So i play MH as a SP game too, and that gives me 30 hours of free fun. I don't see a reason why i should not do so.

 


No, you didn't say "what should I play"

You asked for "The Best"

I said, the best is a single player game.

  Taranx

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9/12/13 11:56:54 AM#32
Originally posted by free2play
Tera, TSW, LotRO, STO, FF14, WoW to name a few. FF14 does have some forced grouping but it can be avoided. LotRO during the original Angmar version was very group driven but it's easy to solo now. Group content is optional. The greatest virtue of TSW is the infinite repeatability of the quests. Each zone has a play style and if you prefer the original zone you really never need to leave. You go in, do a circuit and log out.

I'm curious as to the avoiding of forced group play in FFXIV. Do you have any more info on that? I have done the group thing, but would love to avoid it if possible while still progressing. I am ready to not continue playing if there is no way around it. I get the impression one will miss a ton of content without go along on the rails

Call me an mmo semi-intravert like I'm am in real life. I like being around people and saying hello and converse, but I hate it when I'm "forced" to go out and party. I prefer  those decisions on my terms, not the storyline

  nariusseldon

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OP  9/12/13 12:09:48 PM#33
Originally posted by Ridelynn

 


Originally posted by nariusseldon
Who says i don't play SP games? The point is that one cannot always play the "best" experience because sooner or later, you will finish the game.

 

Let's say i like Dishonored better than Splinter Cell Blacklist. So Dishonor .. in this case .. is "best" for me. Do i just play Dishonored and ignore Blacklist? Of course not. Two reasons. One, i finished Dishonored. Second, while Dishonored is better (for me), blacklist is fun for me too.

The same applies to MMOs. For example, D3 is much more polished, and i like it better than Marvel Heroes. But i can't just play D3 forever and nothing else, can i? So i play MH as a SP game too, and that gives me 30 hours of free fun. I don't see a reason why i should not do so.

 


 

No, you didn't say "what should I play"

You asked for "The Best"

I said, the best is a single player game.

No. I asked for the best solo MMORPG, i did not ask for the best game. You answer does not fit the narrow confine of my question.

 

 

  gatheris

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9/12/13 12:14:17 PM#34

GW2

you can have great fun running solo and then jump into a dynamic event with other players without dealing with the "formal" group thing

 

  nariusseldon

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OP  9/12/13 10:34:17 PM#35
Originally posted by gatheris

GW2

you can have great fun running solo and then jump into a dynamic event with other players without dealing with the "formal" group thing

 

Do they have solo-able instances with story events?

  sportsfan

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9/13/13 3:50:39 AM#36

IMAGINE a game with a HUGE solo challenge, that combines perma death (die once - avatar dead for good )with a centralised economy where "the still living " are trading goods, resources, gear ...

IMAGINE every  day may be your last and demand for goods is high as perma death is all around you ...

You can craft leveling gear as demand is kept huge as everyone dies some day, you can earn Gold by playing it safe ... or ADAPT the difficulty and gain MORE lucrative resources and Gold to climb higher and have a small group of other hardcore avatars.

IMAGINE a game with 100.000 players on one centralised server, so this hardcore perma death economy is always alive and kicking.

Imagine  this totally insane economical driven on line game even exists ...and is not called EVE.

Imagine it is even made by ...Blizzard.

Diablo 3 HARDCORE mode.

Best all in one challenging hardcore game ever invented.... and the laugh is Blizzard stumbled over it by accident and players are not even aware before stumbling in it by pure boredom after playing the softcore dud.

Even automated bots are hardly a problem since ... you die a perma death ... :) 

So no discussions here: hardcore D3 with its built in hardcore Gold only AH is the best on line solo experience for anyone searching.

It is almost the Holy Grail of what mmorpg has been searching for in the past years. 

"You are dead" and you just spend the last 57 million Gold in trading ...

Start from scratch.

 

The rest of the bunch of games is kid stuff compared to this. 

PS. the game is so good I'll make a 3rd dispensable HC character of the same class to not lose my 2 other HC heroes that downed Diablo Inferno previously... and so have a back up - back up to grind for crafting resources....

 

  nariusseldon

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OP  9/13/13 11:22:20 PM#37
Originally posted by sportsfan

IMAGINE a game with a HUGE solo challenge, that combines perma death (die once - avatar dead for good )with a centralised economy where "the still living " are trading goods, resources, gear ...

IMAGINE every  day may be your last and demand for goods is high as perma death is all around you ...

You can craft leveling gear as demand is kept huge as everyone dies some day, you can earn Gold by playing it safe ... or ADAPT the difficulty and gain MORE lucrative resources and Gold to climb higher and have a small group of other hardcore avatars.

IMAGINE a game with 100.000 players on one centralised server, so this hardcore perma death economy is always alive and kicking.

Imagine  this totally insane economical driven on line game even exists ...and is not called EVE.

Imagine it is even made by ...Blizzard.

Diablo 3 HARDCORE mode.

Best all in one challenging hardcore game ever invented.... and the laugh is Blizzard stumbled over it by accident and players are not even aware before stumbling in it by pure boredom after playing the softcore dud.

Even automated bots are hardly a problem since ... you die a perma death ... :) 

So no discussions here: hardcore D3 with its built in hardcore Gold only AH is the best on line solo experience for anyone searching.

It is almost the Holy Grail of what mmorpg has been searching for in the past years. 

"You are dead" and you just spend the last 57 million Gold in trading ...

Start from scratch.

 

The rest of the bunch of games is kid stuff compared to this. 

PS. the game is so good I'll make a 3rd dispensable HC character of the same class to not lose my 2 other HC heroes that downed Diablo Inferno previously... and so have a back up - back up to grind for crafting resources....

 

I agreed. D3  is a great game. Not only that, i like it better than all MMOs.

However, the question is that what is the best single player MMORPGs. D3 certainly deserves a honorary mentioned, but not an answer to the question.

  djazzy

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9/13/13 11:28:21 PM#38
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by gatheris

GW2

you can have great fun running solo and then jump into a dynamic event with other players without dealing with the "formal" group thing

 

Do they have solo-able instances with story events?

There are some. Most instances are group based though.

  Drakephire

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9/13/13 11:34:15 PM#39
Personally I prefer LOTRO's solo experience over SWTOR.  LOTRO has a lot more freedom and a larger world to get lost in. Also LOTRO has a lot less repetition to its content, whereas SWTOR becomes a bit boring if you level a new character.
  WhiteLantern

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9/13/13 11:42:28 PM#40
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by arieste

TOR is very much designed for single-player as well, but the writing and story quality are just atrocious.  Most of it makes no sense whatsoever even from a protagonist perspective.  It's just extremely dumb and aimed at 8-year-olds.  

I agreed. I purposefully did NOT list TOR. It is a much worse SP games than these other ones i mentioned, to me at least.

If they have spent more effort in terms of writing and story scripting, instead of making the world, it would have been a much better game.

 

Now you're just being silly.

 

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

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