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  Synns77

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Joined: 3/15/12
Posts: 124

9/09/13 1:13:20 AM#21

I agree with quite a few comments here, I'm in the same boat as the OP and what I've realised is the games I enjoyed the most weren't necessarily the best games but they were the games that I enjoyed the community. Vanilla wow to wotlk were quite social to me so enjoyable, Faxion online lasted 3 months but I loved it because the few people that played it created in that short time a nice community. A lot of mmos now don't care about that and that has bred a generation of players that don't really care for community either.

im holding out for EQN and ESO but I still suspect that even if those games are great it will be hit or miss if I find those like minded players or not and if not will probably move on from them aswell.

  devilman69

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Joined: 7/21/13
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9/09/13 1:57:09 AM#22
I played eq1 for only 8 months before eq2 came out and then eq2 for the last 8 years but the reason I started eq1 then went to eq2 was I had 8 R/L friends playing and we had at least one day off together to play.Now the place we worked closed and everybody scattered and we don't have days off together to play,so at my new work place everybody is starting to play ffxiv realm reborn.I will play this also because coworkers are playing this..that to me is what will make this game fun.My point is any mmo will be fun if you have friends playing with you.Cannot count the times when we are all at the bar talking strategy and tactics for the next play day and everyone else looking at us like we are from another planet.
  Gravarg

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Joined: 8/24/06
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9/09/13 2:03:41 AM#23

Been playing MMOs for over two decades, and FFXIV is my choice.  It has an old school feel to it.  The game tells you what you're able to do, but other than the main storyline to unlock things, you can pretty much run around and do whatever you want, all on a single character.

 

Edit: I haven't been on the internet looking for information since FFXI, FFXIV has revived my internet use lol.  I keep sites up on my tablet, while I'm playing.  Another old school feature...half the time I'm not even sure what I'm doing, or what I'm doing is right or best lol.

  caremuchless

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Joined: 3/19/11
Posts: 597

Whether you believe you can or believe you cannot, you are right.

9/09/13 4:03:31 AM#24
Originally posted by Severinus
Originally posted by actionreaction
None of the new, or upcoming MMO's are going to appease a soul who enjoys good community, built on open worlds. Plain and simple. New games don't community building like old games at all. This is why the repetition, you might have enjoyed one time, such as games like UO, AC, SWG, was okay, because you we're having fun with other people, and it actually felt worth it.

I think there's a lot of truth in your words; games are simply not what they used to be

 for variuos reasons.

 

I'm linking a video here. It may not help the OP in any way, but it may help others to understand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYaLfUJKSSA

Hate that guy

 

Could. He. Talk. Any. Slower.  18 minute video could be 5 mins if he actually talked a normal speed and didn't take himself so serious.

 

PS -Whoever put up that louis ck vid, thank you. That was funny as hell

 

  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1324

9/09/13 4:41:52 AM#25
Originally posted by Stiles223

For whatever reason I forgot to include one very notable game from my "played" list, Dark Age of Camelot. DAoC is actually #3 on my favourite MMO list. How viable is it now though? I remember I went back to it long (4 years maybe?) ago and it was a ghost town.

I checked it a year or so ago and it still is a ghost town. That being said, if you liked DAoC, you could check Guild Wars 2 out. It's the best themepark/RvR MMO right now, IMO. It's not DAoC and you'll be disappointed if you expect it to be, but it's still a really good game with solid massive PvP called World vs. World. WvW wise, they've fixed most of the annoying bugs and other issues by now, so it's more popular than ever and works quite well. Here's a description of it:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_versus_World

GW2 is really nice and different PvE wise, too. Unfortunately, they've made a bigger focus on dailies lately, but they're still not particularly annoying or grindy and you've got some non-daily ways of getting the best items. No raiding, which is something I like.

The Secret World is another MMO I liked a lot, but it's more of a "play through the main quest and quit" game for me, because its endgame is just a dungeon grind. Admittedly a good dungeon grind, but I hate it all the same.

  Gorwe

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Joined: 9/16/11
Posts: 1826

9/09/13 7:37:08 AM#26
My input:

When talking about reliving the past experiences and/or actually managing to get from where you started from, it's always beneficial take example of Mr.Monk. More importantly, its penultimate episode "Mr.Monk and the Badge". In short, if Monk couldn't relive the past experience(and he remembered it down to a dot of T), what chance do you have? As General Castor from DoW 2 said "the situation has changed". You have changed, games have changed and the whole world has changed.

Just let it go. And try new experiences/games. Who knows? Maybe you run into one that's going to ensorcell you. You never know. Or maybe not. But if you stop trying...what are the Odds to find what you seek? Just remember the Vulcan saying(and their philosophy of Life imo):

"Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations"
  Mardukk

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Joined: 2/05/11
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9/09/13 7:46:55 AM#27

OP you will likely be forced to play a PvP centered game as they seem to be the only ones with EQ open world (no linear quest hubs).  I 've found myself really enjoying Darkfall UW.  I do tire of the PvP focus but the crafting is great, the PvE is pretty good and the open world feel is really unmatched in the genre.  If you don't like PvP you can typically find some out of the way places and gather or PvE or even stay in the safe zones for some time.

 

This is the only game that has given me that EQ feel of a big dangerous world that is really fun to explore.

  HEKKRA

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Joined: 3/07/07
Posts: 77

9/09/13 7:59:12 AM#28
Originally posted by Mardukk

OP you will likely be forced to play a PvP centered game as they seem to be the only ones with EQ open world (no linear quest hubs).  I 've found myself really enjoying Darkfall UW.  I do tire of the PvP focus but the crafting is great, the PvE is pretty good and the open world feel is really unmatched in the genre.  If you don't like PvP you can typically find some out of the way places and gather or PvE or even stay in the safe zones for some time.

 

This is the only game that has given me that EQ feel of a big dangerous world that is really fun to explore.

to bad the Developers have a really bad trackrecord of how they treat their customers and how they treat their own game. It wouldn't be wise of advicing a game that needs alot of players where in the game the population is dwindling.

Especially how the Developers abandoned their older game for 2.5+ years to release the monstrosity of what they call DF Unholy wars.

 

I wish they would just make a type of game like Lineage2. Where grouping was needed. No battleground bullshit. No instancing. Only open world. I miss my Cruma Tower, DVC and ToI. :(

  Mardukk

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9/09/13 12:53:42 PM#29
Originally posted by HEKKRA
Originally posted by Mardukk

OP you will likely be forced to play a PvP centered game as they seem to be the only ones with EQ open world (no linear quest hubs).  I 've found myself really enjoying Darkfall UW.  I do tire of the PvP focus but the crafting is great, the PvE is pretty good and the open world feel is really unmatched in the genre.  If you don't like PvP you can typically find some out of the way places and gather or PvE or even stay in the safe zones for some time.

 

This is the only game that has given me that EQ feel of a big dangerous world that is really fun to explore.

to bad the Developers have a really bad trackrecord of how they treat their customers and how they treat their own game. It wouldn't be wise of advicing a game that needs alot of players where in the game the population is dwindling.

Especially how the Developers abandoned their older game for 2.5+ years to release the monstrosity of what they call DF Unholy wars.

 

I wish they would just make a type of game like Lineage2. Where grouping was needed. No battleground bullshit. No instancing. Only open world. I miss my Cruma Tower, DVC and ToI. :(

Also OP don't listen to bitter DF1 vets.  They want their old game back...it's not coming back, so they will distort DFUW because their feelings are hurt.  I've never encountered a more distorted group than the DF1 people.  Thank god I ignored them and tried DFUW against their wishes.

 

They need a full forum here on MMORPG for people that are fans of games that don't exist anymore and everyone can sit in there and complain and cry to each other, without screwing with games that are currently out.

  HEKKRA

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Joined: 3/07/07
Posts: 77

9/09/13 4:59:31 PM#30
Originally posted by Mardukk
Originally posted by HEKKRA
Originally posted by Mardukk

OP you will likely be forced to play a PvP centered game as they seem to be the only ones with EQ open world (no linear quest hubs).  I 've found myself really enjoying Darkfall UW.  I do tire of the PvP focus but the crafting is great, the PvE is pretty good and the open world feel is really unmatched in the genre.  If you don't like PvP you can typically find some out of the way places and gather or PvE or even stay in the safe zones for some time.

 

This is the only game that has given me that EQ feel of a big dangerous world that is really fun to explore.

to bad the Developers have a really bad trackrecord of how they treat their customers and how they treat their own game. It wouldn't be wise of advicing a game that needs alot of players where in the game the population is dwindling.

Especially how the Developers abandoned their older game for 2.5+ years to release the monstrosity of what they call DF Unholy wars.

 

I wish they would just make a type of game like Lineage2. Where grouping was needed. No battleground bullshit. No instancing. Only open world. I miss my Cruma Tower, DVC and ToI. :(

Also OP don't listen to bitter DF1 vets.  They want their old game back...it's not coming back, so they will distort DFUW because their feelings are hurt.  I've never encountered a more distorted group than the DF1 people.  Thank god I ignored them and tried DFUW against their wishes.

 

They need a full forum here on MMORPG for people that are fans of games that don't exist anymore and everyone can sit in there and complain and cry to each other, without screwing with games that are currently out.

Don't listen to the UW fanboys. Because of them they destroyed my precious game which was alot better than the current version of the game.

  Utinni

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Joined: 7/13/13
Posts: 357

9/09/13 5:12:15 PM#31

If you stopped playing EQ at luclin I'd say revisit that as you missed all the best parts of that game. I hear that it died around then even though the highest population was 3-4 years after luclin launch. I played from kunark to DoDH and loved every minute of it. I still play from time to time as the new content is just as good as anything other games are putting out. P1999 is for the hardcore. It took me a year to get to lvl 52. It's especially hard as there aren't many people leveling up between 20-50 so finding people to group with is near impossible. Orc 1 is always full though. You won't be able to do much endgame if thats what you're seeking as one guild controls 90%+ of the spawns through mass text bombs and a hugely unemployed player base.

 

Anarchy online is very similar to EQ in a lot of ways. Grinding, buffs, gear, lots of classes and places to visit. They are rebuilding the engine for that game which is really exciting. Gameplay wise I still rank it top 5 in the market. 

 

Other than that it seems you've disliked most everything about MMO's, perhaps try another genre.

  Yizle

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Joined: 4/24/10
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9/09/13 5:28:04 PM#32
Originally posted by actionreaction
None of the new, or upcoming MMO's are going to appease a soul who enjoys good community, built on open worlds. Plain and simple. New games don't community building like old games at all. This is why the repetition, you might have enjoyed one time, such as games like UO, AC, SWG, was okay, because you we're having fun with other people, and it actually felt worth it.

I am also an old UO player and been through all of the OP list and then many more. But I think this post has it nailed. Back in UO and EQ you knew who people were even outside of your guild. Housing also meant something you knew your neighbors around you especially in UO.

 

You could give Eve a try. Steep learning curve though.

 

Of course it may also be the fact that game makers are just doing the themepark treadmill and Im sick of it myself.

  MuffinSGE

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Joined: 9/10/13
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9/10/13 2:43:08 AM#33
Starport: Galactic Empires. I know you don't like ghost town games, but since this game only really had about 100 players, it's more of a close-knit community than a ghost-town. Anyways, it's incredible, simply put, and doesn't rely on graphics to be incredibly fun. The developer listens to every concern and adds new patches all the time based upon what the community wants. I play a server called Blitzkrieg, which in my opininion is the most skill-sensitive games ever created. It takes just skill and strategy. No grinding at all. And no auto-aim bull shit. But that's pure PVP. Every other server is a balance between PVP and PVE as you build an empire, and invade others. It's seriously depth-filled, but you can start enjoying it pretty quickly. And with the small player-base, becoming number 1 is actually feasible! And its a huge open galaxy like EVE - the graphics. Its lost its player-base because the admin stopped putting money into advertising. Anyways, I urge you to try it out. My name on there is Muffin, and I like to help new players out. My goal right now is to increase the player base, thus why I'm here. Happy gaming!
  Syanis

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9/11/13 6:43:47 AM#34

So often same old problems I'm facing. I'm old school from Meridian 59, then UO, then EQ1... so on and so on through dozens of other games.

 

I didn't mind grinding like DAoC and EQ as long as I had the community and friends. I loved to group and still do but so much is based on solo play until max level. Even then often at max level community isn't their with often cross server dungeons, raids, and pvp were being known, having a rep, or having friends doesn't really matter.

 

I keep breezing through games trying to find one I can enjoy. I find a few games but always feel like I'm playing a single player game with a bunch of trade/raid spam as I level. No one groups, no ones socializes, and social friendly guilds are near dead. Been speeding through DCUO lately and no one seems to group until top level for the most part. No one wants to recruit into guilds unless top level for raiding. Heck, I was yelled at for trying to chit chat and ask questions in general chat....

 

I'd be happy to stay with DCUO for a bit, or EQ2, or a few other old games if had more socializing and content as you played up in levels.

 

Its a sad time for real MMORPG gamers who made the genre. We been over run with all the soloist kiddies who just want to show off kewl lewts and be dicks.

  Pin_Cushion

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9/11/13 7:15:52 PM#35
Originally posted by Syanis

Its a sad time for real MMORPG gamers who made the genre. We been over run with all the soloist kiddies who just want to show off kewl lewts and be dicks.

They could just sticky this at the top of every MMORPG.com forum and save everyone a lot of time.

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