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  S1LentKiller

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Joined: 9/09/04
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9/08/13 12:50:34 AM#21
I think OP might be right tho i see nothing that have the EQ elements in it. They Even Cut out the classic EQ intro music. Not saying that i'm not going to try it out. It kinda looks like SoE is at a fork road and their leaning to the kiddy side for this one. To me EQ seem more like an adult IP. Sure i was a 16 year old kid when i first started playing EQ. But EQN seem to point at the 8 year old crowd. Its also way too early to say its going to suck. Coming from an EQ fan i see nothing good about EQN so far.
  Nitth

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Magic Propels my Rolly Chair.

9/08/13 1:08:48 AM#22

Every time i hear, "EqN art is like Disney" i instantly think of this...


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  satora54

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9/08/13 1:16:28 AM#23

Dont feel bad OP, this game is garbage and they destroyed EQ. GG.

 

  Baleout

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9/08/13 1:23:31 AM#24
Originally posted by ReallyNow10
This is Disney's World of Minecraft.  I already dislike the graphics and design choices, so will pass.  Might have to hunt down some hardcore PVE indie game of yesteryear.

Well this one looks good enuf to play for me I have played them all and am really looking forward to it.

 

This is not Disney' World of Minecraft  . Did you really think it would be anything like any of the older 2 games why would they do THAT.

Graphics look great as far as I am concerned cant wait to try t out.

 

This is not our MoMs And Pops EQ thank god.

  gxizhe

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Joined: 8/08/13
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9/08/13 1:24:20 AM#25

Wildstar has similar graphic style, but is it for kids?

Borderland and No More Heroes are even more cartoonish,are they for kids?

cartoonish graphic≠for kids

  Siug

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9/08/13 1:49:05 AM#26
Originally posted by slickbizzle
Originally posted by ReallyNow10
This is Disney's World of Minecraft.  I already dislike the graphics and design choices, so will pass.  Might have to hunt down some hardcore PVE indie game of yesteryear.

 

Or, continue playing World of Warcraft.

 

 

 

So your answer to critics is insulting? Wtg keyboard warrior.

  Allein

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Joined: 6/11/13
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9/08/13 1:49:38 AM#27
Originally posted by ReallyNow10
Originally posted by Realbigdeal
If this is not a bait thread, than i don't know what it is. Mod, close this thread right now. Now are you waiting so long to close a thread anyway?

Not a hate thread at all, just  a serious discussion with some serious points.  The graphics and some of the simplistic game design choices are ISSUES for some of the old EQ crowd who remembers when MMORPG gaming was more challenging and immersive.  I mean, a warrior who can only use two weapons?  C'mon.  If that isn't gamey, what is?

Do have any any facts to back up your claims? Or are you just making very subjective generalizations based on the very little we know about the game?

Graphics: Have seem very little so far, but graphics are top quality. Will there there blood spraying everywhere and nude women, probably not, but point me in the direction of a popular fantasy mmorpg that is "adult" themed and that isn't friendly to younger players. EQ was not only for mature adults.

They have made it very clear why they chose the style they did and it makes complete sense. I can post some shots of EQ/EQ2 for comparison, but neither was "mature" especially not compared to the competition of their time. How you can play WoW and not like EQN's graphics is baffling. EQN blows away WoWs graphics, tech wise and visually for me.

Simplistic Game Design: Again, shown very little, but I don't see how this conclusion can be made. 8 (really 12) skills? EQ had 8 for several years, which are considered to be the best years by many. Going away from static camps where you'll always find X mob for Y item, no quest hubs or neon signs pointing the way, dungeons that have to be discovered (can't just walk up to the scary looking entrance that never moves), potentially much higher difficulty AI, etc etc. Please explain why EQN is so simple.

Old EQ Crowd: Most of whom left EQ years and years ago. Most seem to have forgotten why they left and why EQ changed (hint, has something to do with so many leaving).

Challenging & Immersive: Again, as I said above, most of the proposed systems in EQN are potentially harder then anything we've seen before. Having to grind for hours on end to level or for gear is not challenging, it is just a time sink. How immersed you become is a personal thing. A game can't make you feel a certain way, you have to let yourself feel at home in it.

2 Weapons: Very simple. There are 40+ classes. Having more than 2 would be too labor intensive and goes against how they are designing the entire class system. Show me a game with over 320 weapon skills that can all be played with one character.

Classes are more like Roles and it is expected that players will switch to deal with different encounters. If someone chooses to limit themselves to one class with two weapons, that is their issue and is missing the point of the class system.

Regardless, they could of made it 4 weapons or 10 and someone is still going to complain that it is too much or too little. Their system makes sense and goes with the rest of the games design. If they had 10 classes, no multi-classing, and 2 weapons, then maybe there would be an issue, but this isn't the case.

Gamey: Not sure where you are going with this. A game having things to do in a game?

If you want to have a serious discussion, then discuss... Give some clear reasoning, not just "I don't like the graphics." Can you find actual faults with what has been revealed?

Attempting to appeal to fans of Minecraft (12+ million), LoL (32+ million), WoW (8-12 million), EQ (100-500k) and countless others is a pretty smart move (Disney fans...billions?). If you happen to not be one of the 50+ million gamers they are going after, well I guess you are just going to pass this one up.

I enjoy discussing EQN as the info slowly trickles out, but make it an actual conversation, not just another troll post.

Going back to the title "Sorry, this isn't EQ to me." There isn't any reason it should be. EQ2 wasn't EQ to me, nor was EQOA, or LON or any of the other EQ IP games. They are all stand alone experiences. I don't like every single Zelda, Mario, or Final Fantasy game, doesn't mean I write them all off or try new ones when they come out. I didn't like the orignal Warcraft games, but enjoyed WoW for several years. You can choose to like a particular game or the entire IP, that is up to you. You can also choose to ignore all the EQ in EQN as well. I can read the e-books and get immersed in the world of EQ without any graphics. They are only one part of the IP, unfortunately for you, they seem to be the major part.

  Siug

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9/08/13 1:50:51 AM#28
Originally posted by gxizhe

Wildstar has similar graphic style, but is it for kids?

Borderland and No More Heroes are even more cartoonish,are they for kids?

cartoonish graphic≠for kids

That's the problem why I cannot get interested in Wildstar. I read about it and like it a lot, but then I see pics and vids and lose every interest.

Edit: Btw, how should I supposed to play my beloved class SK in EQN if it parkours up walls and mountains and Lion King shadow knight and paladin hybrids are running around? 

 

  Allein

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Joined: 6/11/13
Posts: 924

9/08/13 2:02:54 AM#29
Originally posted by Piiritus
Originally posted by slickbizzle
Originally posted by ReallyNow10
This is Disney's World of Minecraft.  I already dislike the graphics and design choices, so will pass.  Might have to hunt down some hardcore PVE indie game of yesteryear.

Or, continue playing World of Warcraft.

So your answer to critics is insulting? Wtg keyboard warrior.

OP plays WoW, it isn't exactly an insult, more of a suggestion.

  Kyllien

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Joined: 3/22/13
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9/08/13 2:05:35 AM#30
Originally posted by Piiritus
Originally posted by gxizhe

Wildstar has similar graphic style, but is it for kids?

Borderland and No More Heroes are even more cartoonish,are they for kids?

cartoonish graphic≠for kids

That's the problem why I cannot get interested in Wildstar. I read about it and like it a lot, but then I see pics and vids and lose every interest.

Edit: Btw, how should I supposed to play my beloved class SK in EQN if it parkours up walls and mountains and Lion King shadow knight and paladin hybrids are running around? 

 

Why does everyone assume that a video meant to so what they are working on (Parkour moves) doesn't mean that is what they plan on your character doing all the time.  Don't want to climb up walls, here a hint, don't climb up walls.

  trikki

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Joined: 8/21/09
Posts: 56

9/08/13 2:05:38 AM#31
Originally posted by Enrif

EQ released 1999

this is EQNext. get over it.

What he said

  Allein

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Joined: 6/11/13
Posts: 924

9/08/13 2:10:23 AM#32
Originally posted by Piiritus
Originally posted by gxizhe

Wildstar has similar graphic style, but is it for kids?

Borderland and No More Heroes are even more cartoonish,are they for kids?

cartoonish graphic≠for kids

That's the problem why I cannot get interested in Wildstar. I read about it and like it a lot, but then I see pics and vids and lose every interest.

Edit: Btw, how should I supposed to play my beloved class SK in EQN if it parkours up walls and mountains and Lion King shadow knight and paladin hybrids are running around? 

You are assuming SK will be as evil as they have been. EQN lore isn't about good vs evil. Dark Elves are not "evil" (so far) so SK could be warriors that use "dark" magic instead of "evil" magic so to speak. Reading the 2 e-books, there seems to be magic that is frowned upon and not commonly used, but it doesn't make one "evil" instantly by using it. Now the Lich...

Not to say that I think everyone should be flipping off of everything, hopefully it is actually implemented well and not what many are assuming based on a 20 sec video.

  Malacth

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Posts: 116

9/08/13 2:25:39 AM#33

You're right, this isn't EverQuest, it's EverQuest Next.

 

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