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General Discussion  » Is it just me or D3 is one of a kind?

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  Panther2103

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9/06/13 1:21:27 PM#21
I really like Diablo 3. Never had any major gripes about it, I even picked it up launch night to play and the whole server being down debacle didn't really throw me away from liking it. Currently I've tried a few builds on my Wizard and only a couple have been really viable. I've been messing around with a CM wizard and they are really fun but single target fights it kind of sucks trying to get it to work right.
  sportsfan

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9/06/13 1:39:07 PM#22

The combat in D3  is superior, no doubt about that.

But the game really shines in hardcore mode: one death = game over...

Imagine an MMO where everoyne dies and the economy is build on such a community of future dead avatars.

 

D3 hardcore = EVE on fast, simple steroids, both in economy and combat.

frankly, the combat is soooo good, I can't return to those slow MMORPG's anymore....

D3 is the most underrated sleeper in hardcore mode.

A pity the console version has no AH and is self found/crafting only... 

 

  SnarlingWolf

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9/06/13 1:41:21 PM#23
I would argue that D3 is at least the third of its kind.
  nariusseldon

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9/09/13 11:44:53 AM#24
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf
I would argue that D3 is at least the third of its kind.

Depends on what "kind" means.

It is the first ARPG with a RMAH, first of its kind.

It is the first Diablo with skill runes, and no skill tree, first of its kind.

It is the first Diablo with 3D graphics, instead of 2D sprites, first of its kind.

 

  Teh_Axi

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9/09/13 11:52:51 AM#25
D3s combat is the only thing that saves it from being an unmitigated disaster.
  nariusseldon

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9/09/13 1:32:17 PM#26
Originally posted by Teh_Axi
D3s combat is the only thing that saves it from being an unmitigated disaster.

And combat is the most important aspect of a hack-n-slash ARPG.

  jcsadone

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9/09/13 1:39:36 PM#27

Well, it's just You then.

I really tried to enjoy D3, but it was disappointment from start till (oh so near) end. But it's just my opinion. Still prefere Torchlight II. And Diablo 2 XD.

  Purutzil

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9/09/13 1:46:50 PM#28

Yes, a lot, and many with far better game mechanics and elements in. The only thing D3 Really shines at is polish. Its a rather week dungeon crawler otherwise. If you aren't all about polish (which btw, is a BAD thing to be all about) your going to find games like Torchlight 2 or Path of Exile far better choices. Its pretty much using a genre is far from unique and it just polishes it up while losing the elements that make the genre good.

  nariusseldon

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9/09/13 3:10:53 PM#29

It is just personal preferences.

I like D3 a lot more than TL2 and PoE. Better combat, better build experimentation (since you can just switch builds on the fly, and i like choosing skills a lot better than choosing 1 point here, and 2 points here).

Heck, i even like Incredible Adventure of Van Helsing better than TL2 and PoE.

 

  Darknessguy64

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9/10/13 7:33:02 PM#30
If D3 was not made by BLIZZARD and not called DIABLO 3, people would be calling it the greatest hack-n-slash game of all time.
  Thomson

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9/10/13 7:43:20 PM#31
Originally posted by Darknessguy64
If D3 was not made by BLIZZARD and not called DIABLO 3, people would be calling it the greatest hack-n-slash game of all time.

I think it's the other way arround, if it wasn't that popular due to the name/company it wouldn't even have a forum here
 and be even more dead than the PC version is right now. Maybe bots wouldn't be such a big problem though.

  grimal

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9/10/13 7:47:16 PM#32

I saw this thread a couple days ago and decided to reinstall it.

I had played initially about a month after launch and had a good month at it.  After, I grew tired of just repeating the same story over and over.

I did launch it up the other day and what hit me is the sheer production values of the music and sound effects.  You can tell they put some money into it.

Other than that, I really couldn't get myself into it.  I had much more fun with Marvel Heroes than D3.  But maybe it's just me.

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  nariusseldon

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9/10/13 8:40:30 PM#33
Originally posted by grimal

I saw this thread a couple days ago and decided to reinstall it.

I had played initially about a month after launch and had a good month at it.  After, I grew tired of just repeating the same story over and over.

I did launch it up the other day and what hit me is the sheer production values of the music and sound effects.  You can tell they put some money into it.

Other than that, I really couldn't get myself into it.  I had much more fun with Marvel Heroes than D3.  But maybe it's just me.

Incidentally i am also playing Marvel Heroes but i am starting to get sick of going through the same levels again there too.

These kind of games are always like that. D3 lasted longer for me than MH.

Now, i expect it will last even longer when the expansion hit, simply because they put in a random dungeon mode (call loot run) so you will have infinite number of random dungeons. The large number of comb will probably entertain longer than the randomization of story levels.

 

  Teh_Axi

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9/10/13 9:13:08 PM#34
Originally posted by nariusseldon

And combat is the most important aspect of a hack-n-slash ARPG.

Well it does make an otherwise mediocre ARPG playable at least.

  sportsfan

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9/11/13 5:18:07 AM#35
Originally posted by Teh_Axi
Originally posted by nariusseldon

And combat is the most important aspect of a hack-n-slash ARPG.

Well it does make an otherwise mediocre ARPG playable at least.

Mediocre ?

I guess you missed the raving console reviews the last few days by everyone and his dog except the usual handful of Blizz haters.

Actually you do have a choice now: hardcore PC play (die once game over) and its perfect hardcore EVE like economy.

Or pure self found gear with 4 friends on a couch on the excellentcasual  console version.

D3 is becoming rapidly the best game on every platform and you choose the version.

It surely kept me from playing WOW for a long time already (going back in for patch 5.4, but D3 is my main game anyway).

 

I just sold me a hardcore weapon Genzaniku for 40 million Gold in hardcore. Fabulous. My second hardcore avatar is going to kill Diablo Inferno in a few hours. 3 classes to go.

Fabulous game experience in whatever version you like most.

 

  nariusseldon

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9/11/13 12:14:20 PM#36
Originally posted by sportsfan

It surely kept me from playing WOW for a long time already (going back in for patch 5.4, but D3 is my main game anyway).

 

I just sold me a hardcore weapon Genzaniku for 40 million Gold in hardcore. Fabulous. My second hardcore avatar is going to kill Diablo Inferno in a few hours. 3 classes to go.

Fabulous game experience in whatever version you like most.

 

Congraz. A hardcore inferno Diablo kill is a pretty good achievement, which i will never get (i only play softcore). BTW, what MP are you doing it on?

D3 was my main game too. I am taking a break though (just doing some paragon leveling with my alts) and i am waiting for the expansion. The game will even be better when the expansion hit.

 

  Gorwe

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9/11/13 1:42:08 PM#37
So, is Diablo 3 Hardcore with MP 10 the hardest thing since they nerfed /players 8 in 1.09 Diablo 2?

I enjoy it greatly in Hardcore MP 10. Even normal is difficult. Btw what's with Dark berserkers and those special hits of theirs? They do more dmg than Maghda or Butcher lol. I got me wiz one shotted that way :P.
  Thomson

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Joined: 9/17/06
Posts: 245

9/11/13 4:43:13 PM#38


"Actually you do have a choice now: hardcore PC play (die once game over) and its perfect hardcore EVE like economy. ...
I just sold me a hardcore weapon Genzaniku for 40 million Gold in hardcore. Fabulous."


Don't you see that you are contradicting yourself here?
The economy of Diablo 3 is suffering from hyperinflation, meaning that gold (the main currency)
is rapidly losing value. The weapon you sold for 40 million gold is a level 9 weapon.


Level 60 characters roughly make 100k to 400k gold per hour by playing the game.
So why the hell does a level 9 legendary cost 40 million gold?
By using basic math you can easily come to the conclusion that it would take a couple hundred
hours to generate that much gold.


Just look at your own profile and compare the sum of gold you looted against the sum of
gold you are dealing with ingame.
Now you could say that you don't necessarily need to loot 40 million gold to get 40 million gold.
A big part of your gold comes from selling items to other players. This is a argument
often used in the wrong manner. Even if you sold items, you didn't generate (as in adding
to the overall sum) any gold. It's the opposite because AH fee's remove gold from the game.
So all the gold had to be generated by people looting it or by vendoring items.


If you put all together and ask yourself how the hell did the inflation go so bad that
the amount of gold a player that spent more than 600h ingame generated only equals
to the amount of gold needed to buy a very mediocre item or not even a level 9 legendary for that matter?

The answer is that bots have dominated the game for over a year now and blizzard has done
almost nothing against that. If you think that bots are not present in hardcore than you are also very wrong.

I personally hope that Blizzard reduces the problems with the expansion.
From what i've read many of the new items will be soulbound which hinders bots
but also renders the auction house useless. So the people are also affected
by the consequences against bots and this doesn't even touch the other parts of the
game where diablo 3 is just lackluster.

  sportsfan

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9/11/13 6:15:15 PM#39

@ the dude above:

You are wrong since I talk about the HARDCORE auction house which doesn't have much inflation since the AH is constantly reset by dying avatars.

Also this weapon is VERY expensive for a level 9 weapon since ... it has a socket at level 9.

Making it a weapon to level quite quickly and secure on a hardcore server (you die = game over).

 

Without a socket it hardly sells for 300K Gold...You see the gems in that socket makes for quite powerful DPS and you can change the gems to make it more powerful..

 

So next time : learn to READ what I wrote about instead of babbling OUTSIDE of the scope of hardcore play on D3 and its hardcore economy.

The problem of inflation is a problem of the SOFTCORE AH because in softcore play the AH is never reset, while in hardcore (because everyone dies some day), the hardcore economy almost works perfectly (we don't have a RMAH either).

 

As a matter of fact your lvl 60 avatars are not sure to live another day either while they grind: every hour can be your last, which makes D3 a FANTASTIC resource management game in HARDCORE play (everyone dies).

 

I still sell massively my Cains Legendary kit set on a daily basis. That's a leveling set and in ... hardcore demand simply never stops because of people dying daily (the price ranges from 50K Gold to 100K Gold per item). I was VERY Lucky to have the plans drop on me. The lvl 9 Legendary wepaon with socket was the best I had in around 500 hours hardcore playing time btw.

 

 

  sportsfan

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9/11/13 6:36:34 PM#40
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by sportsfan

It surely kept me from playing WOW for a long time already (going back in for patch 5.4, but D3 is my main game anyway).

 

I just sold me a hardcore weapon Genzaniku for 40 million Gold in hardcore. Fabulous. My second hardcore avatar is going to kill Diablo Inferno in a few hours. 3 classes to go.

Fabulous game experience in whatever version you like most.

 

Congraz. A hardcore inferno Diablo kill is a pretty good achievement, which i will never get (i only play softcore). BTW, what MP are you doing it on?

D3 was my main game too. I am taking a break though (just doing some paragon leveling with my alts) and i am waiting for the expansion. The game will even be better when the expansion hit.

 

Tx... My second avatar made it: a new Diablo Inferno kill with another avatar.

I do grinding runs in MP2, mostly Act 1-2 these days with the main.

DPS = only 50K and Res @70%. You see you have limited resources in HC ...

The risk to die is too high/ Already had 6 dead avatars...

 

In softcore I have one Paragon 39 and do MP4 runs. Dying is fun there ...

I'll take a little break in Hardcore (too stressful, the last Elites today ... just before Diablo... almost killed me with 10% life and potions on cooldown (wet the pants). :)  3 Blue Mallet Lords with beams AND another yellow elite walling in...

I think I'll go for a WD in softcore for the next few days, just to destress a bit.

I am convinced D3 in hardcore is an experience everyone should look for in a video game. Much underestimated and with a perfect working economy.

 

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