Trending Games | Elder Scrolls Online | WildStar | Guild Wars 2 | TERA: Rising

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,645,814 Users Online:0
Games:687  Posts:6,084,421
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Deco Online Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Everquest Next: Landmark Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Project Blackout Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Puzzle Pirates Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian Space Heroes Universe Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Hammers End The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Total Domination Transformers Universe Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn 

General Discussion  » How are people getting several level 50s already??

4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Search
74 posts found
  MindTrigger

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/19/07
Posts: 2628

9/03/13 2:55:41 PM#41
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by MindTrigger
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Theocritus
This is why MMOs are a joke...They have open betas with no wipe, then early access for those who want to waste money on that......Then the game launches and within a few hours theres a handful of these losers parading around in their max level gear that most will never see......

I think you and Mindtrigger are confusing the MMO being a joke and the MMO gamer being a joker...

Yeah, you could solo to cap in FFXIV chasing around FATE and/or grinding, but the game is NOT designed to play that way.

Just like in WoW you could level to cap solo doing nothing but gathering herbs/mining.

Or you could max out your skills for a ship in EvE without even playing the game, just logging in to queue more skills.

Don't let the outliers define your perception of a thing.

Radicals are just that - radical.

We've seen this over and over and over again here. If it can be power leveled in a short amount of time, that means even casual players will finish the content fairly quickly.  A month?  Two months at the longer end of "average" play time?  Some people may not mind that, but I do.

I don't mind when and how other people level up, or how fast or slow, what matters to me is:

A) is it fun

B) once I'm at the cap, is there still enough to keep me interested in playing?

 

A month playtime for 60 bucks is great IMO, if I can get another month out of it for 15 bucks that is a great deal.

If I can get continued enjoyment for many months, then hot damn!

You can't force longevity by making things just take longer... for the sake of taking longer so people sub longer. That, to me, is fleecing your customers.

I disagree.  I want a long term MMO, myself.  Gameplay systems make that possible, as we will see in upcoming games.

I've never looked at a game and thought "yeah I got $60 worth".  Money has never been a factor for me.  I'd pay $50-60 a month for a worthy MMO. For a year+ I was paying for three accounts in SWG.  $45 per month, and well worth it back then.

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  Reklaw

Elite Member

Joined: 1/07/06
Posts: 5772

The adult I am takes care of most things real life. However my inner-child is a GAMER!!

9/03/13 2:56:00 PM#42

The feel I get from those level 50s is somewhat mixed. If they enjoyed getting to 50 so fast then no problem, but more worried them calling out for more content, while most of the content they ignored while following the path with the least resistance.

Okay my experiance with the game is somewhat limited as I only attended the last open beta 3 but during that time I noticed the game had allot more to offer then just their main story quest, normal quests or Fate's. Again no problem if players like to do only that in a MMORPG.

I still wish for more fantasy based full "end game" games similar to what we know as COD, Battlefield, but in a fantasy setting. Cause personaly once I reach end game and the game turns more into a multyplayer game I feel that's what many rush to end game player want yet not getting because that market is overrun with FPS multiplayer games and the few that have tried have unfortunaly faild grasping what it is end game players want the most....atleats in my opinion which of course doesn't have to be right. Sorry for the little derail....

  AmbrosiaAmor

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/24/10
Posts: 682

9/03/13 8:12:26 PM#43

Leveling up through the FATE system is way too easy (already made a post how to in another thread). Version 1.0 Vanilla was a pain to level up... compared to games released in the past 5 years... not comparing them to Lineage II, EVE Online, or FFXI Vanilla as a few examples.

 

Version 1.0 at around the 1.18-1.19 patch made it much easier due to the power leveling scheme that was introduced/allowed. Version 2.0 is just way too easy with the FATE system alone. Add all the other stuff to it and you can see why the first couple of classes you level up will end up going really fast.

 

You don't even need to try that hard, and you will see those levels go up.

  Siveria

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 3/11/11
Posts: 1135

9/03/13 8:22:30 PM#44
Originally posted by MindTrigger

I think this is the final straw for me.  I have been considering buying the game and checking it out, but if it's yet another MMO that can be power leveled in a short amount of time, I'm not interested.

This also means, as we have seen many times in the past now, that the game is going to become boring for a lot of players within a month.  I expect we may start seeing the first posts with subjects like "Level capped, bored, nothing do to." within a week or so.

People have already been quitting in droves due to how boring the game is, they start to level a 2nd class and relize there is no quests so they just quit, IMO they should spawn quests at all the hubs for each class, that way people can play how they want instead of being forced in to leves and fates.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  rojo6934

Elite Member

Joined: 8/13/09
Posts: 4550

"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

9/03/13 8:24:51 PM#45
Originally posted by Husvik
Originally posted by Darknessguy64
I am happily taking my time and enjoying all the game has to offer, rather than target lvl 50 and "end game". If other's wish to level as fast as possible, let them. As for me, I will spend time leveling my main class, then some time leveling alt classes, including crafting. I just don't see the fun in rushing in this game.

This^^^

^

i do exactly this. When i purchase a game and hit end game it a couple of days i feel like i just wasted my money. I take all the time i need to experience the game that took many years to develop.

"in peace, in sleep under the barren, abandoned soil"

  Ppiper

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/08/13
Posts: 601

9/03/13 8:27:14 PM#46
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Husvik
Originally posted by Darknessguy64
I am happily taking my time and enjoying all the game has to offer, rather than target lvl 50 and "end game". If other's wish to level as fast as possible, let them. As for me, I will spend time leveling my main class, then some time leveling alt classes, including crafting. I just don't see the fun in rushing in this game.

This^^^

^

i do exactly this. When i purchase a game and hit end game it a couple of days i feel like i just wasted my money. I take all the time i need to experience the game that took many years to develop.

just started doing my hunting logs. Good fun, taking me to places I have yet to see. 

  Lowfer69

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/20/04
Posts: 58

9/03/13 8:29:16 PM#47
Most likely Legacy and if not that, the game is stupid easy. Sorry but it is, as are almost all MMO's these days. Wouldn't want it to be a challenge, might scare away some of the money. Accessible is the key to the suites making all that bank. Challenge? Accomplishment? Nah we don't need those things, they are games after all. Sorry, it's just getting old.
  obsolete5

Novice Member

Joined: 8/19/13
Posts: 83

9/03/13 8:31:42 PM#48

im also concerned by the number of people at the 'endgame' and im not sure how well the game is designed for it.  one reason ive had a hard time getting into many mmos is because the way this 'wow-esque' gear progression works (everyone has the same items, whether crafted or raid drops, basically copy and pasted gear, that takes set path, relatively little cost, or repetitive action to obtain, in a pve non-competition world).  so the endgame basically revolves around completing 'hard mode' (if you can really call them that, as its basically the same content with some artificial gear-check difficulty) raids over and over to get these copy and pasted items.  i do remember way back in the day when non-maxed AC and EQ accounts were selling on ebay for hundreds of dollars just because after months they were the furthest, most experienced on the server and they werent even at a fraction of maxed on xp let alone endgame gear.

 

this game is a lot of fun so far and i work freelance so ive been playing a lot these last days off, i take my time to read almost everything (its well written imo) and enjoy the trip but im worried that after a few days of 6 hours im already too far into the game.  in ff11 id barely be at level 15 at this rate and still broke in bronze gear.

 

the game world, at least so far, also seems much smaller than ff11, besides progressing through much faster and easier.  im not sure if they expected most players to only play for an hour or two a day or what, but a good MMO is something i like to really sink my teeth into.  maybe they had to 'fix' so much from original 14 (that i didnt try) that focus on the game world as a whole got put aside and the amount of content was thought to be 'good enough.'  it took me a few months to hit around 40 after swtor went f2p but i was busier and paced myself out.  this game the difficulty level gets just right for pve id say (i do agree with above post though) but im not sure about the amount of content.

 

level 50 should take the omg-im-gonna-rush-everything-and-twitchtv-it im so pro crowd at least 2 months, and should be a long journey for most players... i understand they wanted to speed things up from 11 and appeal to a bigger crowd but i feel they may have gone a few steps too far and lack a fully fleshed out gameworld space to merit a recurring playerbase rather than a one and done purchaser.

  DMKano

Elite Member

Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 3815

9/03/13 8:35:20 PM#49

I hit 50 on Saturday - leveling is super fast in this game

Things I had going in my favor - my guildies are RL friends that I've played MMOs with since 1999, so we are a tight group - we rip through content in any game.

I've never played FF games (I am not a fan of the lore) - but decided to try it as all my buddies were in on it, so what the heck.

Now two of them were FFpros, they have toons on legacy server but we started fresh.

Main story line - completed

Ifrit on hardmode - completed (for blue weapon)

side quests completed - like 1 or 2, basically skipped all of those

Dungeon runs - We ran all of them at least once up to level 50, some were required for main story.

The rest was FATES XP grinding and huntlogs for XP spikes.

That's it - basically no screwing around, always in a guild group - 50 easy as pie.

 

The leveling is WAY fast in this game, I think it took us a week to hit 80 in GW2, this was faster.

Also the world is *tiny* IMO, one of the smallest online worlds I've ever played. But it is amazingly well done and jam packed with stuff (that we mostly skipped honestly).

Now my plan is to take it easy and level up other jobs.

 

 

 

  tort0429

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/13/09
Posts: 287

9/03/13 8:46:49 PM#50

I don't care why. Simple as that.   This is the first time in a long time I'm enjoying a game and with my friends and spouse.  So why on Earth would I care why other people level fast, or slow, or hate the game, or love the game, or pick their nose in public, or sleep with their pet iguana, or wipe their butts with tin foil?  I just don't care.

I play to have fun and make new friends along the way as a bonus.  I don't judge others or care how they play.  As a matter of fact, not to change the subject a little but, yesterday I did a dungeon with 3 newbies.  We wiped twice.   Now me being an old timer, been playing mmo's since eq1, could have said, you guys stink and left the group.  Instead, I asked them if they wanted some old timers advice on what they were doing wrong.  First, the healer was fighting more then healing.  The DPS were stealing aggro like it was free donuts at Dunkin Donuts and then me, the Tank, dying faster then my wife runs to the Prada store on sale day.

After a couple more tries, the newbies did it perfectly.  They were so happy about it they thanked me for hours later.  lol

There is fun in teaching but only if you learn not to judge others, not to give a crap about others play style and just try to remember, it's a game.  Have fun and stop caring about weather or not the sun will burn out.  Some day it will, but just not today.

There is a lot to do if you want to play the game at a pace where you can enjoy the story line and all the game has to offer.

But if rushing to the end is your thing, you paid for it, have at it.   Me, I'm going at a nice fun pace, to enjoy it for as long as I can.

  icculus2112

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/25/13
Posts: 107

9/03/13 8:53:42 PM#51
Originally posted by DMKano

I hit 50 on Saturday - leveling is super fast in this game

Things I had going in my favor - my guildies are RL friends that I've played MMOs with since 1999, so we are a tight group - we rip through content in any game.

I've never played FF games (I am not a fan of the lore) - but decided to try it as all my buddies were in on it, so what the heck.

Now two of them were FFpros, they have toons on legacy server but we started fresh.

Main story line - completed

Ifrit on hardmode - completed (for blue weapon)

side quests completed - like 1 or 2, basically skipped all of those

Dungeon runs - We ran all of them at least once up to level 50, some were required for main story.

The rest was FATES XP grinding and huntlogs for XP spikes.

That's it - basically no screwing around, always in a guild group - 50 easy as pie.

 

The leveling is WAY fast in this game, I think it took us a week to hit 80 in GW2, this was faster.

Also the world is *tiny* IMO, one of the smallest online worlds I've ever played. But it is amazingly well done and jam packed with stuff (that we mostly skipped honestly).

Now my plan is to take it easy and level up other jobs.

 

 

 

I wouldn't call the world size tiny, its probably about twice the size of vanilla Rift.  Which still puts it on the small side but not terrible.

Leveling speed is too fast, way too fast.  Its slower than vanilla Rift and SWTOR were, but with the way FATE grinding is a borderline exploit (high exp, *zero* risk or skill) you can max out way too fast.  And FATEs are even faster for your other classes.

The fantastic crafting system is hurt by the fast leveling speed and FATE system, because you outlevel gear too fast and FATEs are so easy when done with zerg groups that gear doesnt matter.

No fast leveling game has *ever* had good retention.  Thats going to be FFXIV's biggest challenge, overcoming that.  Will the other classes and crafting and all the other stuff be the difference maker?  WEll see.

Its a fantastic game marred by the inability to realize that fast leveling = huge drop in subs after the first 2-3 months. 

  echolynfan

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/26/10
Posts: 709

I ain't got a gat but I gotta soldering gun

9/03/13 8:58:24 PM#52
I had some guy trampling all over me in the beginning area with his level 50 and honkin' BIG black mount. I was wondering about that too...I actually like the P L A Y the game and take my time.

Currently playing as Pete Puma on Excalibur. FF ARR - The best MMO I've played since SWG!

  DMKano

Elite Member

Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 3815

9/03/13 8:58:29 PM#53
Originally posted by icculus2112
I wouldn't call the world size tiny, its probably about twice the size of vanilla Rift.  Which still puts it on the small side but not terrible.

 

Hmm I don't know as I haven't seen any data comparing the two, to me - again my personal experience, FFXIV ARR world feels smaller than vanilla Rift and a lot smaller at that.

And yes Rift's world was not big, but again this feels so much smaller, maybe because of all the zoning - Rift was seamless (except the dungeons obviously). Also there are many invisible walls in ARR, Rift has some too don't get me wrong, but at least in Rift you can climb mountains and find glowy collectibles and some loot cairns are on top of hills etc.

 

  Mithrandolir

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/28/05
Posts: 1661

Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft' might win, by fearing to attempt

9/03/13 9:00:42 PM#54

I've managed to actually log in enough to play one class to 19 so far. I log out even when I need to take 1/2 hour break, and my days are pretty packed with stuff to do. I spent the entire 3 day weekend trying to log in... 

I really hope they manage to better the login process tonight, I can't wait to sink a long day this upcoming weekend.

 

  icculus2112

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/25/13
Posts: 107

9/03/13 9:27:43 PM#55
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by icculus2112
I wouldn't call the world size tiny, its probably about twice the size of vanilla Rift.  Which still puts it on the small side but not terrible.

 

Hmm I don't know as I haven't seen any data comparing the two, to me - again my personal experience, FFXIV ARR world feels smaller than vanilla Rift and a lot smaller at that.

And yes Rift's world was not big, but again this feels so much smaller, maybe because of all the zoning - Rift was seamless (except the dungeons obviously). Also there are many invisible walls in ARR, Rift has some too don't get me wrong, but at least in Rift you can climb mountains and find glowy collectibles and some loot cairns are on top of hills etc.

 

1-20 Rift has a total of 2 zones (not counting the tutorial zones).  FFXIV has about 9-10 different zones.

Not to mention the city sizes.

 

 

  obsolete5

Novice Member

Joined: 8/19/13
Posts: 83

9/03/13 9:30:06 PM#56
Originally posted by icculus2112
 

The fantastic crafting system is hurt by the fast leveling speed and FATE system, because you outlevel gear too fast and FATEs are so easy when done with zerg groups that gear doesnt matter.

 

 

 

i agree, and while i have 'fun' in the same way that computer programming is fun (somewhat tedious, pressured work that gives a sense of satisfaction when you look back at the finished product)  its also a bit of a time sink .. and like bruce lee said, if you love life, dont waste time.. and suffers from this problem greatly - besides making some gil or filling in no-so-required pieces, and without being able to harvest repair ores, besides materia socketing there is little real point to it , it appears, so far.  since the gear goes unneeded leveling the crafting without a hefty supply of leves becomes a tedious grind as well.  

 

the post about worrying about the sun had some nice philosophy and while its true its best to live and enjoy life that way, that doesnt mean there arent tons of games to choose from and that gamers can discuss both good points and shortcomings of games... for once id say the developers should listen here, but im sure they are noticing this already themselves.  i hope they are already busting their asses to make more content - many more large world zones, higher level cap that takes a long time, more duty finder stuff

  castertroyt

Novice Member

Joined: 7/12/10
Posts: 19

9/03/13 9:35:53 PM#57
It's quite possible to get multiple char to lv50 if you planned your leveling route properly. I manage to get 4 class to lv20, and 2 class to lv15 during open beta...in which I've only spent 45 hours...which is considered low by hardcore standard. Didn't play much during head start, then play only at night during weekdays, and a little bit more on weekends...got 2 class to lv30+, a crafter to 28, another craft at 20 & 15. The hardcore ones probably get only 4 hours of sleep every day.
  evilized

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 390

9/03/13 9:41:32 PM#58

hit 50 last thursday.

 

follow the story quest and hit fates when you can. it's pretty easy and not really that time consuming. i certainly wasn't pushing myself, there were people in my FC hitting 50 on the 26th/27th.

  Dzone

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/17/12
Posts: 290

9/03/13 9:46:32 PM#59

Well im no were near 50 yet. I play like 3-4 hours a day, average 30 minutes to log in during that time. Few days I couldn't log in.

 

I actually started with phase 3, and been playing since, but I take my time and do all the side quest's, read the storyline, and just explore. I'll do fates ocationally if they happen to be near wear i'm questing, or doing hunting logs.

 

So far I got a level 16 conjurer and a 22 gladiator, I've been enjoying this game, even without rushing.

 

If this game is like GW2 even with my playstyle i'll prolly cap in less than 2 months, and the game will still be around 10 years from now, so no point to rush it.

  icculus2112

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/25/13
Posts: 107

9/03/13 9:47:15 PM#60
Originally posted by obsolete5
Originally posted by icculus2112
 

The fantastic crafting system is hurt by the fast leveling speed and FATE system, because you outlevel gear too fast and FATEs are so easy when done with zerg groups that gear doesnt matter.

 

 

 

i agree, and while i have 'fun' in the same way that computer programming is fun (somewhat tedious, pressured work that gives a sense of satisfaction when you look back at the finished product)  its also a bit of a time sink .. and like bruce lee said, if you love life, dont waste time.. and suffers from this problem greatly - besides making some gil or filling in no-so-required pieces, and without being able to harvest repair ores, besides materia socketing there is little real point to it , it appears, so far.  since the gear goes unneeded leveling the crafting without a hefty supply of leves becomes a tedious grind as well.  

 

the post about worrying about the sun had some nice philosophy and while its true its best to live and enjoy life that way, that doesnt mean there arent tons of games to choose from and that gamers can discuss both good points and shortcomings of games... for once id say the developers should listen here, but im sure they are noticing this already themselves.  i hope they are already busting their asses to make more content - many more large world zones, higher level cap that takes a long time, more duty finder stuff

I actually really enjoy gathering and crafting, because I find it personally rewarding.  I make almost all of my own gear and choose to take my time.  At least FFXIV gives me this option, most games do not.  And my FC very much enjoys the fact I love to dump HQ crafting jewelery in the company chest.

Im more worried because fast leveling is a proven retention killer, and dont want to see that happen to FFXIV.

I think they should make a couple end game patches for now and focus on making a big 25 level expansion that splits the difference between FFXI and FFXIV speed.

4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Search