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  nilden

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9/01/13 6:15:03 PM#41
Originally posted by Ayulin

For the people complaining, It is understandable. However, do not say that you can't get in. You can get in, you just don't want to take the time to do it.

lol...

Right, because spending 30-60 minutes spamming a login window, for the off chance that you'll "get lucky" is a completely reasonable thing to expect people to do. And shame to anyone who isn't insane enough to waste hours away over the course of several days doing it!

Sorry, I tried that route - 5 days/evenings in a row. And I will say, quite bluntly: I could not get in. Period. End of discussion.

The closest I got was a queue that lasted about 2 minutes, only to kick me with a "world is full" error as reward for my persistence.

Other than that, I got into queue for various other spans of time, upwards of about 5 minutes, with the same result. And again, at those times, while I was getting the "queue -> world is full" routine, others were slipping right in. A few others on TS were having the same issue.

It got to the point where we concluded (as in, the others getting in, those not getting in, and myself) that there must have been an issue regarding region or something, because it made no sense otherwise that I get "world is full", and then others are getting in as much as ~10 seconds later.

The apologist attitudes of others over this issue - making excuses for it, insisting, like you, that "if you can't get in, then you're just not trying" and all this has only soured me on it even more, because it's just a crock. Even funnier how the people telling others to "stop complaining" or of "how it's not that difficult to log in", are often the same people who are staying AFK for hours on end, helping to make a bad situation even worse. Talk about hypocrisy.

And, lest I be dismissed as "just some hater who spent $30 on the game and now is "acting all entitled" (another BS remark going around by some), I'm a 1.0 Legacy player. I bought the CE back then, played right up 'til they took the servers down. Hence, I was given ARR CE for "free" and didn't have to spend another dime to play it. Regardless, I was impressed enough by what Yoshi-P and co had done, that I wanted to show further support by spending an additional $90 on the PS3 CE. That's how much I was behind this game.

The events since Open Beta, EA, and now launch, with SE's terrible response (apologies and vague promises of "improvements in the future" only go so far), and the absolute ugliness that's come out in many of ARR's community over it, when considered altogether, has really eroded my interest in the game.

I'll likely still come back and try it again at some point, and hence will keep following it. But this rolling trainwreck of a launch, SE's insufficient response to it, and the abhorrent attitude of a large portion of the community has seriously killed off most of the excitement I once had about it.

Quoted for truth and well said.

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  Elsabolts

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9/01/13 6:20:52 PM#42
Originally posted by svann
Originally posted by Elsabolts
Originally posted by ubermut
If they would just boot the afkers this problem would fix itself.  it makes no sense that you can remain logged in afk for weeks at a time.

The fine folks in Japan pay by the min. thus the reason for afk folks.

I dont see the logic.  If they pay by the minute then why bother staying logged in?  Wouldnt they save money by logging off?

It is why SE does not boot afk.

  svann

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9/01/13 6:37:51 PM#43
Originally posted by Four0Six
Originally posted by Syno23
SE launched a very polished and awesome game. That was Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. But good gosh, the server issues are too much. And I'm very upset about what happened to me and my friends. SE has failed, and I will continue to play their game, but I will also complain that if I cannot log into the servers, why should I continue to pay for subscription?

First what you should do is go read any of the official SE announcements about how they are adding new servers and will be compensating players.

Adding new servers wont help servers that already have too many characters created on them, unless MANY people reroll on a new server (unlikely) or they allow server xfers soon (also unlikely) AND many people take advantage. 

What they actually said was that as people spread out among the zones they will be able to raise the login limit (up to 5k max).  However that even that hope is flawed.  Game design indicates that even when people are higher level they will be coming back to the low level zones to level their alternate classes.  And besides that, people will be leveling multiple crafting classes exclusively (afaik) in the cities.  How will that mass of people ever "spread out"?  Not soon, I dont think.  And certainly not this wednesday.

 

Mark my words - come wednesday, this problem is not going away.

  svann

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9/01/13 6:41:49 PM#44
deleted because not worth thread space to respond
  kabitoshin

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9/01/13 6:46:19 PM#45
You don't have to pay for a sub till the end of the 30 free days.
  svann

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9/01/13 6:48:42 PM#46
Originally posted by kabitoshin
You don't have to pay for a sub till the end of the 30 free days.

There are no free days.  The first 30 days is included in the price of the box. 

  User Deleted
9/01/13 6:48:59 PM#47
Originally posted by svann
Originally posted by Four0Six
Originally posted by Syno23
SE launched a very polished and awesome game. That was Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. But good gosh, the server issues are too much. And I'm very upset about what happened to me and my friends. SE has failed, and I will continue to play their game, but I will also complain that if I cannot log into the servers, why should I continue to pay for subscription?

First what you should do is go read any of the official SE announcements about how they are adding new servers and will be compensating players.

Adding new servers wont help servers that already have too many characters created on them, unless MANY people reroll on a new server (unlikely) or they allow server xfers soon (also unlikely) AND many people take advantage. 

What they actually said was that as people spread out among the zones they will be able to raise the login limit (up to 5k max).  However that even that hope is flawed.  Game design indicates that even when people are higher level they will be coming back to the low level zones to level their alternate classes.  And besides that, people will be leveling multiple crafting classes exclusively (afaik) in the cities.  How will that mass of people ever "spread out"?  Not soon, I dont think.  And certainly not this wednesday.

 

Mark my words - come wednesday, this problem is not going away.

Other than the free transfers they are giving so people can migrate to new servers....

 

  svann

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9/01/13 6:51:04 PM#48
Originally posted by Deciman
Originally posted by svann
Originally posted by Four0Six
Originally posted by Syno23
SE launched a very polished and awesome game. That was Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. But good gosh, the server issues are too much. And I'm very upset about what happened to me and my friends. SE has failed, and I will continue to play their game, but I will also complain that if I cannot log into the servers, why should I continue to pay for subscription?

First what you should do is go read any of the official SE announcements about how they are adding new servers and will be compensating players.

Adding new servers wont help servers that already have too many characters created on them, unless MANY people reroll on a new server (unlikely) or they allow server xfers soon (also unlikely) AND many people take advantage. 

What they actually said was that as people spread out among the zones they will be able to raise the login limit (up to 5k max).  However that even that hope is flawed.  Game design indicates that even when people are higher level they will be coming back to the low level zones to level their alternate classes.  And besides that, people will be leveling multiple crafting classes exclusively (afaik) in the cities.  How will that mass of people ever "spread out"?  Not soon, I dont think.  And certainly not this wednesday.

 

Mark my words - come wednesday, this problem is not going away.

Other than the free transfers they are giving so people can migrate to new servers....

 

I dont find that message anywhere.  Got cite?

  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

9/01/13 6:56:02 PM#49

No he is not doing anything wrong,they KNEW of server issues from certain regions in last Beta and claimed they fixed them.However without another test how would they know,that is the part that pisses me off,you can't say it is fixed without testing it.

I seriously don't know how there could be a problem unless it is as simple as some servers not working properly.

If everyone lets them know,then there should be a statement by now on the situation at hand.

Ok so i did a little research and i guess there is something happening as of Wednesday ...MAYBE lol.

Apparently they have the new servers and are doing internal testing.If the testing is favorable they will do all worlds maintenance on Wednesday.However that also means if not favorable means no go for Wednesday.This still bothers me because Yoshi says "internal testing" that is no way shape or form mimics the REAL server load and i highly doubt he is that stupid and doesn't realize it.

My gut feeling is this,the REAL truth is probably that they don't have more servers yet and are just buying time hoping they come in by Wednesday or they have some other plan in the works.He did mention something about transferring server loads to less populated ones,so maybe there really is not any new servers coming,just some new worlds by thinning out the free space.

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  Electro057

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9/02/13 4:50:35 AM#50
I log in everyday~ On a Japanese server :3

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  Puffington

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9/02/13 5:01:12 AM#51

You know if I can say one thing it's this. Although I am annoyed as all hell that I cannot log in, I'm annoyed because from the amount of time I have been able to play, the game is fantastic! At least I have something to look forward too, most MMO launches for me are ruined by the crappy game they release. At least this time I have some hope that the servers will get fixed and there will be an awesome game waiting for me!

 

TLDR;

It's a damned good game with shitty server, which is a lot easier to fix than a damned bad game with perfect servers. 

  Zohdi118

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

9/02/13 8:36:54 AM#52
Originally posted by Kyleran
You must be doing something wrong, many people not only log in regularly but are at or near level 50.

It's true there are login issues but a substantial portion of the player has managed to cope with it.

But if it really bothers you, ask for a refund and don't play. (or come back later)

Folks are at or near 50 because they are logging in in the morning and not logging out of game for days.  Thus keeping servers full.  I have only been able to log in over this Labor Day weekend for 4 hours of game play.  My character fell through world on Saturday morning and I haven't been able to log back in since.  Players shouldn't have to cope with awful customer service.  Because its ok for the passive folk, like yourself, its not ok at all.

Definitely one of the worst launches since AO and SWG in terms of login server problems.  Gameplay is fairly smooth/good if you can get in. It is a good thing that the 30 days free doesn't start until SE gets their shit together.

  TheRealDarkeus

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9/02/13 8:41:52 AM#53

A lot of this could have definitely been prevented by having a 15 minute AFK timer.  Then again, they have admitted that they grossly underestimated the response the game would get.  They literally thought, "Last game sucked, only so many players are going to come back."

 

Surprise SE!! 

  svann

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9/02/13 9:54:22 AM#54
Originally posted by TheRealDarkeus

A lot of this could have definitely been prevented by having a 15 minute AFK timer.  Then again, they have admitted that they grossly underestimated the response the game would get.  They literally thought, "Last game sucked, only so many players are going to come back."

 

Surprise SE!! 

I dont buy that.  They had plenty of indication in several betas that there was massive interest.

  blackburn11

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9/02/13 11:08:17 AM#55
Originally posted by Kajidourden

LOL @ OP and all the other geniuses talking about their subscription.  Nobody has paid a dime of subscription fees yet, and SE has already stated they plan to increase the free time because of the issues.  So really....you have no legs to stand on.  

Yes, it's annoying that you're having login issues....but when you're being compensated for it and still whining you just sound like children.

Well, you pay $30 to get the game initially.  Part of that 30 bucks goes towards the first month of play.

Regardless, when people pay money for a product and dont get it, they are bound to get mad.  I certainly wouldnt be so arrogant to say they dont have a leg to stand on.

I find SE's solution for the last week+ to be inadequate.  I think they put in place a system where the hardcore players will get in with either software to constantly autolog them in or because they will sit at their computer and try to log in for 30+ min.  I think this was a conscious decision because they new these fanatics would throw a fit if they couldnt get to lvl 50 in the first 3 days.  Meanwhile the casual player is just unable to get on since launch.

I know they are working to fix the issue and I know it will be fixed.  But how could it take them this long to get new servers live?  In wow and swtor they were adding servers daily to meet demand (if I remember correctly).  

I am frustrated and I know others are also.  But again, please keep trying to convince me why I have no right to be upset!

  blackburn11

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9/02/13 11:15:37 AM#56

Also... other than the hardcore, fanatic players that have been getting on because of their persistance... wont everyone else jump ship from their old servers to play on a fresh server without lvl 50s?

I think some will roll on new so they can get a fresh start and not be lvl 20 wtih level 50s running around.  I think some will reroll because their friends and family couldnt get on same server.  There are just lots of reasons for people to roll on these new servers.  

Guess I am wondering how many there will be and worried they will be overrun and swamped again.  

What I am really worried about would be SE's snail of a plan to address this new issue asap (as in a couple weeks!).

I have just never seen an MMO that has been unplayable for me from the final beta stage, through early access, and then through the first week of launch.  But.... I will keep waiting and eagerly play and give them money when they figure it out.

  nilden

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9/02/13 11:51:05 AM#57

I can't believe all of you people who buy something and actually expect it to work!

/sarcasm

 

 

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  crysent

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9/02/13 12:06:31 PM#58
Originally posted by Kyleran
You must be doing something wrong, many people not only log in regularly but are at or near level 50.

It's true there are login issues but a substantial portion of the player has managed to cope with it.

But if it really bothers you, ask for a refund and don't play. (or come back later)

This is part of the problem and not a good thing.

 

MOST casual players have had to put up with substantial amounts of #$%^ to log in.  Players that are at 50 have stayed AFK online for a majority of the time, refusing to log out, thus compounding the server queue issues.  On top of that these people have either played substantial amounts of time to already be 50, or the game is NOWHERE near as hard as players are claiming at end game.

  User Deleted
9/02/13 12:09:19 PM#59
Originally posted by nilden

I can't believe all of you people who buy something and actually expect it to work!

/sarcasm

 

 

FFS just do a charge back already.  Or are you just going to complain non stop here until new servers are here?

  Four0Six

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9/02/13 12:14:58 PM#60
Originally posted by blackburn11
Originally posted by Kajidourden

LOL @ OP and all the other geniuses talking about their subscription.  Nobody has paid a dime of subscription fees yet, and SE has already stated they plan to increase the free time because of the issues.  So really....you have no legs to stand on.  

Yes, it's annoying that you're having login issues....but when you're being compensated for it and still whining you just sound like children.

Well, you pay $30 to get the game initially.  Part of that 30 bucks goes towards the first month of play.

Regardless, when people pay money for a product and dont get it, they are bound to get mad.  I certainly wouldnt be so arrogant to say they dont have a leg to stand on.

I find SE's solution for the last week+ to be inadequate.  I think they put in place a system where the hardcore players will get in with either software to constantly autolog them in or because they will sit at their computer and try to log in for 30+ min.  I think this was a conscious decision because they new these fanatics would throw a fit if they couldnt get to lvl 50 in the first 3 days.  Meanwhile the casual player is just unable to get on since launch.

I know they are working to fix the issue and I know it will be fixed.  But how could it take them this long to get new servers live?  In wow and swtor they were adding servers daily to meet demand (if I remember correctly).  

I am frustrated and I know others are also.  But again, please keep trying to convince me why I have no right to be upset!

EA was turning on and gating access to TOR to have a smooth launch. They weren't adding any servers they didn't have already.

That being said it can often be the final nail in the coffin, so to speak, to launch with tons of servers to only  have them all have to be merged. Merging has a negative appearance.

You have plenty of "right" to be upset. But there has been compensation put in place, as in not charging any days until the new servers go live. Laving any sort of viable complaint aside of "rage quit" out of the picture. You don't have to like it, but it is what you get.

On a "big picture" note, This is again some of the reasons I wont "launch" a MMO anymore. Jaded = happy in my case, at least where FF XIV is concerned.

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