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  funcon

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OP  8/28/13 2:56:53 PM#1

 I was waiting on WildStar because I thought it was pretty cool. I like the graphics and stuff but when I tried beta, to me it felt like just another mmo. The running around for npc's to do their quests is very boring now. I mean I think it could be fun for new comers to mmo's, but most mmo players these days are vets. I dont see any games that I think will hold my interest. ArcheAge I think is just going to be like all other mmo's. EQ Next on the other hand looks like what I love. The fantasy theme never gets old. Love the graphics and animations and they are using the same engine as Planet Side 2 which ran so smooth on my pc, loved the graphics in that game too, the terrain mainly. I'm hoping they will have alternative/fun ways to level up not just quest/dungeons.

 

So EQ Next is the last hope for me.

  Karteli

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8/28/13 3:02:03 PM#2

I disagree with ArcheAge being just like other MMORPG's, but that's just my opinion, and I don't want to derail your thread.

 

While EQN is going to be interesting, it is a long ways away.   The Minecraft version LandMark is coming out in the next 4-7 months, if you like creating stuff and sharing your creations.  EQN release? 2015, 2016?  It's in the prototype / early alpha stage now, so ...

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
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  Wakygreek

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8/28/13 3:02:48 PM#3
No one knows if it will make you happy. You can however do some research by watching panels, going to www.everquestnext.com and reading up on what the developers are doing and take part in recent polls. If you like what you see then there is a chance it may be a good fit for you. But only captain planet can tell you if you will be happy with it, after all hes a hero.
  nariusseldon

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8/28/13 3:03:32 PM#4
Originally posted by funcon

 I was waiting on WildStar because I thought it was pretty cool. I like the graphics and stuff but when I tried beta, to me it felt like just another mmo. The running around for npc's to do their quests is very boring now. I mean I think it could be fun for new comers to mmo's, but most mmo players these days are vets. I dont see any games that I think will hold my interest. ArcheAge I think is just going to be like all other mmo's. EQ Next on the other hand looks like what I love. The fantasy theme never gets old. Love the graphics and animations and they are using the same engine as Planet Side 2 which ran so smooth on my pc, loved the graphics in that game too, the terrain mainly. I'm hoping they will have alternative/fun ways to level up not just quest/dungeons.

 

So EQ Next is the last hope for me.

mmos are not the only video games.

  nisrak

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8/28/13 5:30:06 PM#5

I kind of agree with OP.  Video games seem all the same to me at this point.  MMOs are all too WoW-esque (and I've played enough of that) and console games are all some flavor of FPS (with sneaking)...  I know this is going to cause some backlash, but that is just how I've been feeling for a long while now.

I'm excited for something different with EQ:N and landmark

  Rusque

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8/28/13 5:33:31 PM#6
Best thing you can do for yourself is identify if you are still interested in video games. If not, then do yourself a favor and do something else. If you literally cannot find anything to play right now, you might want to seriously consider that video games are not the hobby for you.
  Crazy_Stick

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8/28/13 7:10:36 PM#7
Dude you can wear anything out with enough indulgence even chocolate cake or masturbation. Play some MOBAs, some shooters, and other games for your fix to recharge your RPG batteries while waiting on EQN and be "smart." Don't invest so much hope or buy into the hype so strongly you cry and quit the hobby if it crashes like Miley Cyrus at the VMA.
  Allein

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8/29/13 1:07:23 AM#8

Originally posted by funcon

So EQ Next is the last hope for me.

While I doubt I'll ever truely give up on mmorpgs, the older I get, the harder it is for me to invest time, energy, and money into them. The few games I really enjoyed EQ, DAoC, WAR, WoW either turned into something else as time progressed or simply lost population and fun along with them. I gave GW2 a try and while I mildly enjoyed the PVP arenas and some of the WvWvW, it was just another grindy, game of Tag.

Originally posted by nariusseldon

mmos are not the only video games.

I've been playing MMOs for almost 18 years. It is really really hard for me to play a single player game. I play a few co-op console games with my lady, but that is about the extent of my console gaming. I just can't get immersed or feel challenged in a game where I am only playing against/with the AI (usually bad) or there is no story (arcade fighting, racing, etc).

I've been looking into LOL and moba's, but I'm not sure I have the attention span or patience to play them.

While not a fantasy mmorpg, Team Fortress 2 has got me through the times were I just couldn't grind another level.

TF2 is awesome and I think it relates to EQN in a way. Classes with defined roles and alternates play styles, many different gear options that change game play, swap classes whenever you want, big focus on team play, etc. Good way to get some adrenaline pumping and some mindless PVP action, all without any real point of lasting effect.

Overall, after all these years, I think it helps to have a backup or time-out game to break the cycle that is so easy to fall into in most mmorpgs.

If EQN disappoints, I'll wait for the next game to come along in a few more years. Wildstar does have some potential, unfortunately they are pretty set on catering to the high end grinding raiders from WoW. I can't get the years of my life back that I spent doing that...

 

  Lord.Bachus

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8/29/13 2:13:19 AM#9
Dear OP, if you take a break from video gaming now, and return to it when EQN releases somewhere in 2015 it most certainly will make you hapy.

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations)
Currently playing : The Elder Scrolls Online and Wildstar

  Rydeson

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8/29/13 3:15:34 AM#10

     I think one reason, at least for me, why people get bored with MMO's is the level of activity people want from a game..  What I mean here is that if all you are doing is hack and slashing from one mob to the next in line, it becomes routine.. As with anything in life, all routine actions become numbing.. If MMO's expect me to stay and play, there has to be more to the game then hack and slash..  This is why raids in many games become "dances".. I want and demand variety of play.. I want crafting to be meaningful and fun.. This doesn't mean sitting in town and hitting "create all".. You know crafting is broken in a game when 90% of the auctions are selling "mats"..

     As for combat, there needs to be even a bigger variety of play.. There has to be roles like pulling, charming, mezing, snaring, rooting, buffing, debuffing, etc etc.. The more "jobs" that are available to play, the less chance you become bored doing the same numbing hack and slash.. 

  Metrobius

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8/29/13 7:03:51 PM#11
Originally posted by funcon

 I was waiting on WildStar because I thought it was pretty cool. I like the graphics and stuff but when I tried beta, to me it felt like just another mmo. The running around for npc's to do their quests is very boring now. I mean I think it could be fun for new comers to mmo's, but most mmo players these days are vets. I dont see any games that I think will hold my interest. ArcheAge I think is just going to be like all other mmo's. EQ Next on the other hand looks like what I love. The fantasy theme never gets old. Love the graphics and animations and they are using the same engine as Planet Side 2 which ran so smooth on my pc, loved the graphics in that game too, the terrain mainly. I'm hoping they will have alternative/fun ways to level up not just quest/dungeons.

 

So EQ Next is the last hope for me.

You might as well ask us if you're going to be satisfied after your next dinner.  

  Drakephire

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8/29/13 7:15:16 PM#12

OP, if you're talking about video games in general, I can empathize. Nothing was engaging me, and I found myself loading up old games and playing those.

But then I sort of went on an Indie game binge, and found some real fun games. Hope in the industry was restored. Minecraft started it. Then Walking Dead. More recently Don't Starve and Kerbal Space Program.

I've given more mainstream games a shot in that time as well, but few have been as fun as the Indie games.

 

From what I've seen, I think EQN has the potential to engage me in MMOs again.

  Lissyl

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If cosmetics aren't content, why don't people demand a cheaper game done in full grayscale?

8/29/13 7:28:10 PM#13

I think Lord.Bacchus has it right, OP.  You seem more burned out on gaming in general, and if that is the situation you're in then no, I can practically guarantee you it won't make you happy.

 

You truly, honestly need a good healthy break.  When you come back, EQN, FFXIV, or virtually -any- game will make you happy.

  Kuanshu

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8/29/13 7:41:06 PM#14

One can only make oneself happy as it shouldn't be happiness one seeks outside oneself

Everquest Next is at least a year from release and if your bored playing video games sounds like you should consider something other then computer generated stimuli

I considered myself a serious video gamer at one time in my life and it takes a toll if it takes up alot of your time/energy. Exposing yourself to electronic devices such as TVs, Computers, Consoles, Cell Phones, etc.. alot over time really adds up if you simply take it all for granted and wonder why your not feeling like you used to or its affecting you adversely somehow.

Take a break and get some fresh air and get the blood circulating and your body oxygenated as you refresh and reinvigor yourself and you would be surprised how renewed you feel and how more enthusiastic you are playing video games and its even better if its multiplayer or massively multiplayer games as I have observed within myself over the years.

I actually sell video games, consoles, computers, etc...and the people who have a well balanced life are the most well adjusted and happy gamers in my experience. Over indulgence in anything is unbecoming and leads to dis-ease and dis-orientation and imbalance...which affects everything else in your life accordingly.

We all hope and pray Everquest Next delivers something as revolutionary as Everquest was when it was introduced back in the day as the first 3D MMORPG.

  ropenice

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8/29/13 8:01:40 PM#15
Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
Dude you can wear anything out with enough indulgence even chocolate cake or masturbation. Play some MOBAs, some shooters, and other games for your fix to recharge your RPG batteries while waiting on EQN and be "smart." Don't invest so much hope or buy into the hype so strongly you cry and quit the hobby if it crashes like Miley Cyrus at the VMA.

I beg to differ, sir.

  Univers0

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8/30/13 9:16:44 AM#16

I understand why I quit all those games that I played.   Most often it is because  the way that the class you played and loved while leveling up is not the role which is needed for endgame raiding.  For example, in original Everquest as a magician you level up by having your pet tank and you nuke down the mob while watching your aggro and pet's health, or you would do same in a group.  On raids you would summon people or items, sometimes debuff resistances.  No pet, no damage.  Whenever endgame like that happens, an alt is born. 

I have not yet played a game with an engaging/functional endgame, which is actually fun.  Maybe EQ Next and the smart mobs can change that.

  Suraknar

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8/30/13 9:49:45 AM#17
Originally posted by Karteli

I disagree with ArcheAge being just like other MMORPG's, but that's just my opinion, and I don't want to derail your thread.

 

While EQN is going to be interesting, it is a long ways away.   The Minecraft version LandMark is coming out in the next 4-7 months, if you like creating stuff and sharing your creations.  EQN release? 2015, 2016?  It's in the prototype / early alpha stage now, so ...

I agree about ArchAge. It is not the same, while it may start in a similar way, in the Protected continent, and there are levels its scope is much wider after that point, such as Player Built and Run Cities, Kingdoms alliances etc, it has a very strong GvG aspect to it. It is much like EVE but in a Fantasy Setting.

Not wanting to derail the thread either.

 

My problem with EQN, is just that, the Crafting and Building is Separate from the main Game. You can build Houses, and you can share your creations, but you cannot (based on current information), use them for you in the main EQN world.

It is not like ArchAge where people can have their own Houses, form player Run Villages and Cities and claim territory to defend protect and maintain.

The Housing is in Landmark. I am assuming, again extrapolating from current information, that the goal is to have Players share in creating the content and assets that will be constantly explored, destroyed and renewed in the main game of EQN in order to provide an ongoing player vs Environment Experience which does not see repetitive.

For example lets say you go off with your friends, and due to some adventure you open a hole on the ground and find a Cave with some old Ruins guarded by some mean Beasts. You fight the beasts, you destroy the environment in the process, some of the ruins are not there anymore, and you leave.

If that same location is not visited lets say for a given period of time, the game may simply erase it from existence, and the next time some group digs in to the same spot then a new Cave with new ruins and assets is created and populated.

the assets for these buildings come from the pool of approved creations in Landmark.

So when they say, "yes you will be able to bring your creations from Landmark to EQN, if they match the style", to me at least it meant that EQN may use them.

Without further details, it is really open to speculation.

The other possibility is that, they are simply segregating Crafting/Housing/Gathering and Adventuring/House placing between the two games to avoid any possible player vs player antagonism.

Such as PKs Hunting Crafters. They will not be able to do so since the Crafters do their work in landmark. And how they log on to EQN they have a combat Class and only there to "place" the house they import from Landmark. Which implies that there will be Housing and Player Run Villages Cities etc...

But it is also speculation at this point.

No confirmations either case.

ArchAge on the other hand is confirmed, we know what features it has and what gameplay it is about and the experience it offers. Nothing mysterious there, they came out and laid the aim from the get go, the details revealed over time were specific mechanics, and that is the game they built and launched.

EQN at this point is 2 clients, 4 Features and lots of Hype...nothing is clear as to what type of gameplay it is going for...therefore it is impossible to say with accuracy if it will be fun, for anyone or ourselves.

Wait and see more I say..and decide as more is revealed...for sure..I personally am not looking for a PVE experience of an MMO..crafting or not, Destructible environment or not...Goblin King having a personal Grudge against me or not...

If I want to play vs NPC's I prefer the hassle-less Solo game.

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  Metrobius

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8/30/13 2:58:07 PM#18
@ Suraknar: The devs have said that players will be able to claim land in EQN and build on it. You can even port build templates from landmark to the main game after it launches
  BadSpock

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8/30/13 3:00:42 PM#19

Bored of playing video games. Will EQ Next make me happy?

Probably not. Maybe for a little while it will, but in the end... probably not.

*Note - not a slam against EQN, just a general observation of the MMO community at large.

Now Playing: D3:RoS, Watch Dogs
Looking Towards: Destiny

  Suraknar

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8/30/13 3:18:39 PM#20
Originally posted by Metrobius
@ Suraknar: The devs have said that players will be able to claim land in EQN and build on it. You can even port build templates from landmark to the main game after it launches

Thank you, Metrobius.

Is there a written reference to this, or was this said in one of the QnA panels or Grail Presentations? I watched them all with great interests.

Claiming land and building on it was mentioned but not in detail. It seems like players can Claim land as part of a "Quest", like for instance the example with the Village growing in to a Keep and repelling the Siege Armies of the Goblin King.

Players built that keep...but it is not theirs. It belongs to the NPC inhabitants there... it really is not clear at this point.

It might be simply safer to wait and see what comes out in the near future... personally I got excited when I first saw all this, plus I did like the artistic style very much...

But then, I wondered will it all be PVE again? Will it all be about Progressing a Character within a new environment that has Emergent AI NPCs and Destructible environment?

Or will it truly be a world that the players make a live (Living world) whose dynamics rest upon the players and it is not all NPC make belief engineered...

I am not against having PVE of course, don;t take me wrong, but a PVE Core gameplay with everything else on the side, is not fun for me, and not what I seek.

Having said this, I do not want to invent answers to these questions nor form definite conclusions at this time...wait and see.. for now.

But my hopes are not up either, because if they were going to make a game where players really have a role in the world then why not announce it from the get go that there will be Housing and Player Run Villages and Cities in the main game?

- Duke Suraknar -
Order of the Silver Star, OSS


ESKA, Playing MMORPG's since Ultima Online 1997 - Order of the Silver Serpent, Atlantic Shard

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