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  crusher143

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8/27/13 12:21:34 AM#61

I dont get the point in buying a console. You can do everything on PC too, you want to play with a contoller ? Just buy one, you want to play on your big TV ? Get a HDMI cable, there really is no point in consoles. Oh and also games are even cheaper on PC.

And for upgrading, if you upgrade a PC at the time a console comes out it will last as long as the console since you have anyways graphic options in games unlike on consoles.

So tell me whats the point in consoles ? There are just only a few titles that are exclusiv for consoles but thats it. With a PC you can do even MUCH more, consoles are so limited. And If you build a PC on your own or just upgrade to new stuff its not that expensive.

I can understand maybe someone buying a console if he doesnt have a PC or doesnt want one. But having a PC and then getting a console,  nonsense really.

  Jockan

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8/27/13 6:35:54 AM#62
Originally posted by crusher143

I dont get the point in buying a console. You can do everything on PC too, you want to play with a contoller ? Just buy one, you want to play on your big TV ? Get a HDMI cable, there really is no point in consoles. Oh and also games are even cheaper on PC.

And for upgrading, if you upgrade a PC at the time a console comes out it will last as long as the console since you have anyways graphic options in games unlike on consoles.

So tell me whats the point in consoles ? There are just only a few titles that are exclusiv for consoles but thats it. With a PC you can do even MUCH more, consoles are so limited. And If you build a PC on your own or just upgrade to new stuff its not that expensive.

I can understand maybe someone buying a console if he doesnt have a PC or doesnt want one. But having a PC and then getting a console,  nonsense really.

 

 

Why do we keep getting post like this? How can you do everything on PC too? So you telling me you can play God Of War, Halo, Forza Motorsport, Uncharted, Grand Turismo, Infamous, Heavy Rain, Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Knack and Killzone on PC? Console gameers can do that and all for the price of $100-$500. That's why people buy consoles.

  lizardbones

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8/27/13 7:59:43 AM#63


Originally posted by rojo6934
im getting a PS4, hands down.

Now that Xbox reverted all the crap i could see my self buying one when the console is a bit older and cheaper but will definitelly consider getting one just for exclusives.. But soon after launch im sticking to PS4 for a while.

 

It would be stupid to reject the Xbox One now that the mistakes have been addressed. But its a biggest stupidity to open a petition at change.org asking Microsoft to bring back all the anti consumers restrictions..... people really are out of their minds.... MS would bury themselves if this becomes a thing.

https://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2

/sigh




You still need an XBox Live Gold account to do things like watch Netflix or Youtube on the XB1. Ditto for recording your game sessions. PS4 offers more, for less money.

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  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

8/27/13 8:58:53 AM#64

Sony got hacked a few years ago and they let themselves get hacked again now:

http://www.shopto.net/news/43850/GTA-V-PSN-Pre-Order-hacked--Soundtrack-leaked-Sony-apologises

You pay for what you get, and obviously Sonys security is lacking still

If you want the most out of the consoles then you will want either of the subscription services. No one will buy a Xbox ONE just to watch Netflix. The MAIN attraction is the games, and the online services, which both console have subscriptions for.

The best thing to do is wait a yaer or so and see which console does do the best overall. For me the Xbox ONE has more games I like, and if I were to get a PS4 because it is cheaper and more powerful then I will end up getting 2nd best, and not able to play the 10 exclusives I like the look of (there are more than 10 exclusives but I like 10 of them) whereas PS4 only has 1 I like.

 

 

  Tygranir

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8/27/13 9:03:08 AM#65

Sorry, the PS4 is just a better product, in terms for available titles and price vs. power comparisons.

 

Haters gonna hate, and you are more than welcome to do so. The numbers don't lie.

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  mrputts

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8/27/13 9:17:51 AM#66

I will be getting neither in November.

If the history of Consoles is to be repeated. Than both the Xbox and the ps4 are going to have console breaking, Red Ring of Death-ing issues of some sort with their first gen of new systems. I will be waiting till November of next year.

 

By then enough time will have pasted  to see how many new consoles break, and if they truly got fixed yet, if M$ reneges on their DRM. (Not that they will but I don't put it past anyone to try to weasel their control ideas into a world some how.) I will see if that PS4 streaming ps3 games thing looks and works out.  I will have a larger catalog of games, and lastly Holiday bundles.

 

Not trying to piss on anyone getting a new system. That is just my way of approaching new consoles.

 

 

Edit: Their not there.

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  Tygranir

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8/27/13 9:22:05 AM#67
Originally posted by mrputts

I will be getting neither in November.

If the history of Consoles is to be repeated. Than both the Xbox and the ps4 are going to have console breaking, Red Ring of Death-ing issues of some sort with their first gen of new systems. I will be waiting till November of next year.

 

By then enough time will have pasted  to see how many new consoles break, and if they truly got fixed yet, if M$ reneges on their DRM. (Not that they will but I don't put it past anyone to try to weasel their control ideas into a world some how.) I will see if that PS4 streaming ps3 games thing looks and works out.  I will have a larger catalog of games, and lastly Holiday bundles.

 

Not trying to piss on anyone getting a new system. That is just my way of approaching new consoles.

 

 

Edit: Their not there.

Agreed, although I'll probably only hold out until I see preorders for a EQN or Destiny special edition

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  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

8/27/13 9:49:35 AM#68
Originally posted by Tygranir

Sorry, the PS4 is just a better product, in terms for available titles and price vs. power comparisons.

 

Haters gonna hate, and you are more than welcome to do so. The numbers don't lie.

The PS4 is a better product, but not if the developers do not get the most out of it.

The PS3 was better than the Xbox 360 too, but there were very few games that made the most out of the PS3, as the devs developed for Xbox 360 and did not bother enhancing for the PS3 version.

They both look to have about the same amount of exclusives but Xbox ONE has more that I like the look of )Xbox ONE=10, PS4 =1) and Xbox ONE has more titles that exclsuive to the Xbox ONE that are not on other platforms

Looking at this list they both have 21 exclusives but Xbox ONE has 6 exclsuives that are on other platforms whereas PS4 has 12 titles that are on other platforms. eg DCUO, FF XIV,Planetside 2 are also on PC

The facts do not lie, but people seem to be ignoring what Xbox ONE has, and follow the sheep, I mean numbers!, and so do you if you think the PS4 has more available titles. I am looking at the games not the tech. The PS4 looks like it will turn out like SWTOR - people get hyped by it and then realise it is not performing as expected and then bail and go back to PC / last gen or choose Xbox ONE.

The only way to tell which one wiill be better is to wait a year after release.

  Betaguy

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8/27/13 9:53:23 AM#69
Xbox One all the way for me, no switch needed.  I am a computer guy and like Microsoft.

  drgran

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8/27/13 9:53:53 AM#70

Does anyone know why Microsoft lied to us in E3?

They said they will have November release in 21 markets now only 13 markets.

Before knowing this i went to pre order Xbone. Eb games told me that they arent doing pre-orders cause Microsoft said to stop pre-orders. 

So i pre-ordered PS4 instead. 

If we are talking about exclusives for a system. How many Exclusives did Microsoft release this year for the xbox 360? 

So i was really thinking of this . If Exclusives for a system are so important isn't it good to have a running new exclusives running after release not just line up release dates? 

Sony got new exclusives this year for the ps3 systems.

I bought the camera with the PS4 as well so i can do all that voice activation and stuff. (of course not sure if it will have it either)

but the option will be there.

It still cost me less money for the PS4 and camera then the xbone + kinetic (which you have to have it plugged in to run xbone)

Exclusives aren't really important.

Price for the same thing is alittle cheaper.

Oh and with Gaikai you can play some PS3 games. Good luck on continuing your nice large library of game for the 360 . 

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  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

8/27/13 9:56:08 AM#71
Originally posted by mrputts
if M$ reneges on their DRM. (Not that they will but I don't put it past anyone to try to weasel their control ideas into a world some how.)

or SONY

They were going to do DRM too, but after the roasting of MS with it, they backtracked before announcing it.

Also another thing to wait and see is if Sony pause your game to show adverts

 

  Tygranir

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8/27/13 9:59:58 AM#72
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by Tygranir

Sorry, the PS4 is just a better product, in terms for available titles and price vs. power comparisons.

 

Haters gonna hate, and you are more than welcome to do so. The numbers don't lie.

The PS4 is a better product, but not if the developers do not get the most out of it.

The PS3 was better than the Xbox 360 too, but there were very few games that made the most out of the PS3, as the devs developed for Xbox 360 and did not bother enhancing for the PS3 version.

They both look to have about the same amount of exclusives but Xbox ONE has more that I like the look of )Xbox ONE=10, PS4 =1) and Xbox ONE has more titles that exclsuive to the Xbox ONE that are not on other platforms

Looking at this list they both have 21 exclusives but Xbox ONE has 6 exclsuives that are on other platforms whereas PS4 has 12 titles that are on other platforms. eg DCUO, FF XIV,Planetside 2 are also on PC

The facts do not lie, but people seem to be ignoring what Xbox ONE has, and follow the sheep, I mean numbers!, and so do you if you think the PS4 has more available titles. I am looking at the games not the tech. The PS4 looks like it will turn out like SWTOR - people get hyped by it and then realise it is not performing as expected and then bail and go back to PC / last gen or choose Xbox ONE.

The only way to tell which one wiill be better is to wait a year after release.

Destiny and (Probably) EQN are the only exclusive titles I really need. Not to mention the possibility for a new Uncharted game. The Blu Ray player is a nice perk as well.

 

XB One does not really have many titles that interest me, but that is a matter of preference and has no bearing on which system is better.

PS4 is a better machine with higher potential for a smaller price tag.

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  drgran

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8/27/13 10:04:53 AM#73
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by mrputts
if M$ reneges on their DRM. (Not that they will but I don't put it past anyone to try to weasel their control ideas into a world some how.)

or SONY

They were going to do DRM too, but after the roasting of MS with it, they backtracked before announcing it.

Also another thing to wait and see is if Sony pause your game to show adverts

 

Yah as i posted before that i pre-ordered PS4. 

The DRM thing i have to agree with superniceguy.

If one starts up the DRM The other might as well. Then everyone will be stuck with the DRM .

That is something to consider too.

PC can gets steam DRM

PS4 and XB One can use their own DRM.

 

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  IceAge

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8/27/13 10:07:21 AM#74
Originally posted by superniceguy

The PS4 is a better product, but not if the developers do not get the most out of it.

The PS3 was better than the Xbox 360 too, but there were very few games that made the most out of the PS3, as the devs developed for Xbox 360 and did not bother enhancing for the PS3 version.

The only way to tell which one wiill be better is to wait a year after release.

Not going to comment on everything you've said, just the above only.

Is exactly what happened to PS3. They released a console far better then Xbox 360 , but the technology for creating games on PS3, gave developers headache. They needed to change all their equipment in order to "get out the best" of PS3, but most didn't do that because of  poor release sales of PS3 and they were not sure that they will get back the investment. 

But this time, it seems they did it right. They (almost) did what they did with PS2, but time will tell, as you said.

Yes, I am a fan of SONY and I hope they will be number 1 again with PS4. They deserve it. As I previously said, they are for gamers, while Microsoft are more for multimedia, sport and shooter games. This is not for me however.

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  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

8/27/13 10:07:47 AM#75
Originally posted by drgran

Does anyone know why Microsoft lied to us in E3?

They said they will have November release in 21 markets now only 13 markets.

Before knowing this i went to pre order Xbone. Eb games told me that they arent doing pre-orders cause Microsoft said to stop pre-orders. 

So i pre-ordered PS4 instead. 

If we are talking about exclusives for a system. How many Exclusives did Microsoft release this year for the xbox 360? 

So i was really thinking of this . If Exclusives for a system are so important isn't it good to have a running new exclusives running after release not just line up release dates? 

Sony got new exclusives this year for the ps3 systems.

I bought the camera with the PS4 as well so i can do all that voice activation and stuff. (of course not sure if it will have it either)

but the option will be there.

It still cost me less money for the PS4 and camera then the xbone + kinetic (which you have to have it plugged in to run xbone)

Exclusives aren't really important.

Price for the same thing is alittle cheaper.

Oh and with Gaikai you can play some PS3 games. Good luck on continuing your nice large library of game for the 360 . 

It was the intention for MS to release in more countries, but there was more preorders than expected.

Sony is in similar predicament too, but instead of not launching in EU as they did with the PS3 for a few months later, they have put a preorder by date of Aug 6th. If you preorder after Aug 6th there is no guarantee to get the console on launch. If you preorder after Aug, you may not get one until 2014.

Microsfts way ensure everyone gets a console on launch day.

Neither lie, it is how they are managing the HUGE preorders.

Kinect is not required to be plugged in now

You will not be able to play PS3 games from the get go, it is a service coming in later. If it comes later, Sony are rather prone for not coming through with the goods. eg PS2 did not get HDD in Europe.  The HDD would have advanced the PS2 considerably if they launched it, but trying to get old games to play on a new console is not high priority. Xbox 360 started to get Xbox games to play, but then got shelved as there was not enough demand.

  JasonJ

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Posts: 414

8/27/13 10:07:57 AM#76

No way in hell I will give Microsoft another dime until they remove their CEO and get their crap together.

They are focusing on Mobile, we will never see another Windows OS that is not a hybrid and they are planning on ending Windows for the PC in the future. while I don't use windows on my PC, it is royally going to FUBAR the market and may very well kill the PC if they abandon it. This also means they will stop making DirectX BTW my fellow gamers.

As for the Xbone One. No way. They "Say" they removed the authentication once a day option but its MEANINGLESS. Xbox One games are going to be CLOUD BASED.

Oh, you can "have the disc" so what, it needs to be installed on the system and parts of the game are on the cloud.

Oh, they "say" they are allowing you to "own" the game so you can "sell" it...but they are keeping the individual agreements meaning one company can have an agreement stating that you are LEASING the game and cannot sell it unless authorized. Not to mention the fact that the system is a complete power hog AND on top of it, sure you can have the Kinect turned off...but Microsoft got patents for DRM datacollection to monitor your viewing habits, how many people are viewing and even set up a "reward" system if you watch specific programs. Eff this big brother crap, I want a VIDEO GAME SYSTEM that plays VIDEO GAMES and any company that messes with that, to bring an "ENTERTAINMENT" system filled with useless crap that takes privacy and ownership rights away shouldn't be supported by anyone.

  MindTrigger

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Posts: 2628

8/27/13 10:14:01 AM#77
I have no interested in the PS4.  I like the direction Microsoft is taking the One as far as features go, so I'll be getting one of those. 

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  drgran

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Posts: 190

8/27/13 10:37:23 AM#78
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by drgran

Does anyone know why Microsoft lied to us in E3?

They said they will have November release in 21 markets now only 13 markets.

Before knowing this i went to pre order Xbone. Eb games told me that they arent doing pre-orders cause Microsoft said to stop pre-orders. 

So i pre-ordered PS4 instead. 

If we are talking about exclusives for a system. How many Exclusives did Microsoft release this year for the xbox 360? 

So i was really thinking of this . If Exclusives for a system are so important isn't it good to have a running new exclusives running after release not just line up release dates? 

Sony got new exclusives this year for the ps3 systems.

I bought the camera with the PS4 as well so i can do all that voice activation and stuff. (of course not sure if it will have it either)

but the option will be there.

It still cost me less money for the PS4 and camera then the xbone + kinetic (which you have to have it plugged in to run xbone)

Exclusives aren't really important.

Price for the same thing is alittle cheaper.

Oh and with Gaikai you can play some PS3 games. Good luck on continuing your nice large library of game for the 360 . 

It was the intention for MS to release in more countries, but there was more preorders than expected.

Sony is in similar predicament too, but instead of not launching in EU as they did with the PS3 for a few months later, they have put a preorder by date of Aug 6th. If you preorder after Aug 6th there is no guarantee to get the console on launch. If you preorder after Aug, you may not get one until 2014.

Microsfts way ensure everyone gets a console on launch day.

Neither lie, it is how they are managing the HUGE preorders.

Kinect is not required to be plugged in now

You will not be able to play PS3 games from the get go, it is a service coming in later. If it comes later, Sony are rather prone for not coming through with the goods. eg PS2 did not get HDD in Europe.  The HDD would have advanced the PS2 considerably if they launched it, but trying to get old games to play on a new console is not high priority. Xbox 360 started to get Xbox games to play, but then got shelved as there was not enough demand.

Well i pre-ordered after aug 6th EB games stopped pre-orders after aug 6th then got word from Sony to continue pre-orders cause they can get them for launch day. Well lets say if i walk in on launch day and they dont have it ill take my money back. easy as that. 

good to know about the kinect. 

And i know about the PS3 games not playing right away the service still has to be ironed out. And with this service it is possibility to play PC games . Which is a high possibility. Considering the service was made for playing games on tablets and all. 

The difference between Xbox and Xbox 360 is that people bought alot more games on 360 then original xbox. Cause of Xbox live. It was greatly improved then on the original and people loved the online features it had. 

Hell i didnt get xbox live but i when i had the free month on 360 i did enjoy it when i was on it. 

The ps2 HHD was originally for the final fantasy XI game that came out. 

and for its time it had lots of support for it. NA not so much but Japan there was alot of games that used it. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_Expansion_Bay

They followed through cause PS3 had the Hard drive from the get go, and they didn't need anything special to connect the harddrive to it.

PS4 even has a upgradable hard in it. Think the 500GBs is to small put in 1tbs hdd.

Xbox has a cloud service that you have to pay xbox live for its service. and who knows might be like dropbox and have to pay for GBs storage as well. I can see that happening. 

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  mrputts

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Joined: 2/23/05
Posts: 175

8/27/13 11:03:58 AM#79
Originally posted by drgran
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by mrputts
if M$ reneges on their DRM. (Not that they will but I don't put it past anyone to try to weasel their control ideas into a world some how.)

or SONY

They were going to do DRM too, but after the roasting of MS with it, they backtracked before announcing it.

Also another thing to wait and see is if Sony pause your game to show adverts

 

Yah as i posted before that i pre-ordered PS4. 

The DRM thing i have to agree with superniceguy.

If one starts up the DRM The other might as well. Then everyone will be stuck with the DRM .

That is something to consider too.

PC can gets steam DRM

PS4 and XB One can use their own DRM.

 

Agree with both of you.  We will have to wait and see.

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  Shodanas

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Joined: 1/05/10
Posts: 756

8/27/13 1:16:41 PM#80
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by crusher143

I dont get the point in buying a console. You can do everything on PC too, you want to play with a contoller ? Just buy one, you want to play on your big TV ? Get a HDMI cable, there really is no point in consoles. Oh and also games are even cheaper on PC.

And for upgrading, if you upgrade a PC at the time a console comes out it will last as long as the console since you have anyways graphic options in games unlike on consoles.

So tell me whats the point in consoles ? There are just only a few titles that are exclusiv for consoles but thats it. With a PC you can do even MUCH more, consoles are so limited. And If you build a PC on your own or just upgrade to new stuff its not that expensive.

I can understand maybe someone buying a console if he doesnt have a PC or doesnt want one. But having a PC and then getting a console,  nonsense really.

 

 

Why do we keep getting post like this? How can you do everything on PC too? So you telling me you can play God Of War, Halo, Forza Motorsport, Uncharted, Grand Turismo, Infamous, Heavy Rain, Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Knack and Killzone on PC? Console gameers can do that and all for the price of $100-$500. That's why people buy consoles.

You keep getting these posts because they are valid ones. How many first class MMO's, Simulators or RTS games can you play on a console? And let's not talk about game pricing on consoles. Why should one sacrifice far superior utility and versatility for a handful of exclusive titles? Do i wan't more or faster RAM? I go to the nearest shop, by the modules, open the case and install them in less than 1 minute. Do i wan't a faster GFX card or a new CPU? Or maybe replace a faulty part? Same procedure. Do i wan't to upgrade drivers? One click at DriverMax and the new drivers are downloaded and installed. 

PC's drive the technology forward for over two decades with consoles trying to catch up. Do you know that when Xbox One and PS4 hit the shelves they will already be a step behind regarding their GFX systems? Less than two years later this step will have evolved into a chasm. 

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