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  jskeets916

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8/26/13 1:25:04 AM#41
Originally posted by Zhenocnra

L O L THIS IS HILARIOUS LOL! Square Enix is SO funny, LOL! I can't even believe I held out hope they'd recognize if beta was as crowded as it was, official release is going to be a FUNNY FEST LOLOLOL! And if the servers keep saying "the world is full, please try again later", I'm sure Square Enix believes this will be an acceptable and sufficient answer to their customers

 

AHAHAHAHA Square Enix you're just digging your own grave now, LOL! Keep going!

 

You realize when they planned for a set number of players and that is overwhelmingly exceeded to the point that server stability is shot, new character creation is suspended, that's not a failure...

 

It means more and more of you haters, like I predicted would happen, are jumping on the bandwagon and causing them to restructure to support an immensely larger sub base than anticipated?

 

All this qq yet the servers are STILL being pounded minute by minute...

 

But have fun with your server mergers on whatever MMO your playing these days... These issues may take a few weeks to hammer out but SE is by no means complaining Mr. Wise Guy.

 

Despite all this constant qq about refunds quitting and usual modern day entitlement issues, the people aren't quitting and giving up they are still sitting in their chairs spamming the log in button...

 

SE Winning, they have no problem with this unprecedented ridiculous demand... 1.0 didn't have close to these numbers of servers and still had took less of a beating. This is a firms dream for their industry.

  Demrocks

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Joined: 8/25/13
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8/26/13 1:27:18 AM#42

Some mmo's have a good launch and some mmo's have a bad launch.

Nothing we can do about it.

 

Just give it time :P

  Dreamo84

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I actually still like MMORPGs

8/26/13 1:30:23 AM#43
Early access should actually be easier than launch.

  Gravarg

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8/26/13 1:33:03 AM#44
Originally posted by jskeets916
Originally posted by Zhenocnra

L O L THIS IS HILARIOUS LOL! Square Enix is SO funny, LOL! I can't even believe I held out hope they'd recognize if beta was as crowded as it was, official release is going to be a FUNNY FEST LOLOLOL! And if the servers keep saying "the world is full, please try again later", I'm sure Square Enix believes this will be an acceptable and sufficient answer to their customers

 

AHAHAHAHA Square Enix you're just digging your own grave now, LOL! Keep going!

 

You realize when they planned for a set number of players and that is overwhelmingly exceeded to the point that server stability is shot, new character creation is suspended, that's not a failure...

 

It means more and more of you haters, like I predicted would happen, are jumping on the bandwagon and causing them to restructure to support an immensely larger sub base than anticipated?

 

All this qq yet the servers are STILL being pounded minute by minute...

 

But have fun with your server mergers on whatever MMO your playing these days... These issues may take a few weeks to hammer out but SE is by no means complaining Mr. Wise Guy.

 

Despite all this constant qq about refunds quitting and usual modern day entitlement issues, the people aren't quitting and giving up they are still sitting in their chairs spamming the log in button...

 

SE Winning, they have no problem with ridiculous demand... That's what firms look dream for in their industry...

+1

I don't think they thought that there were going to be so many preorders in NA-EU.  Let's face it people from NA-EU are spoiled, and want everything done now and done right the first time.  After 1.0, they figured that NA-EU were like, "They aren't getting another dime from me!"

 

They were wrong in that guess, but I still don't mind.  Even with the issues, it's still a great game.  After trying to log in for awhile.  I've gotten on, and stayed on pretty much until they do a maintenance then I'm like "omg what time is it, I'm hungry!" lol

  sudo

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Joined: 8/23/05
Posts: 698

8/26/13 1:38:33 AM#45
I can't think of a single feature of FFXIV that is next gen, but yes, such server capacity problems in 2013 are not acceptable.

"Only in quiet waters do things mirror themselves undistorted.
Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."
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  jskeets916

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Joined: 1/08/13
Posts: 160

8/26/13 1:45:25 AM#46
Originally posted by sudo
I can't think of a single feature of FFXIV that is next gen, but yes, such server capacity problems in 2013 are not acceptable.

Says who? The young boys entitlement club of America?

 

Or is this coming from your experience of at-home developing and launching of MMO's?

 

 

Sorry to burst your bubble but their hasn't been this level of initial hype/popularity/demand at the launch of an MMO since SWTOR, and before that WoW.

 

Were you there for either of those games launches? Because I can testify to similar if not worse conditions when the flood gates finally did open.

 

Edit: 2013 has nothing to do with, advances in technical aspects such as graphics or required hardware to run a game does not mean the servers can't stressed or overloaded, maybe if this game had the technical aspects identical to WoW and SWTOR you may have an argument, but this a new game, totally different situation.

  Rewhymo

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Joined: 10/24/12
Posts: 53

8/26/13 2:04:05 AM#47
Originally posted by nomatics856
I think so.

I played up until the maintenance issues. Drank lots of red bull and i had zero issues. 

 

SE did a fine job creating a game and its IMPOSSIBLE to have a perfect launch which FF14 has not officially launched yet. they've only opened the game up to pre-orders. Which is actually another stress test. All games to my knowledge have had issues during launch or early access. 

Hell take the MMO juggernaut for example WoW had in my MMO experience the worse launch ever. These minor issues SE are having are just that minor. And they are sorting them out rather fast if you ask me. 

  Riposte.This

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Killing dragons is my shit

8/26/13 2:04:57 AM#48
Originally posted by nomatics856
Originally posted by Pandrax
Originally posted by nomatics856
I think so.

Nope. Far from the worst. Far from the best. Take this time to appreciate the finer things in life, go have some social time, relax. Life is not about obsessions.

First off I pre ordered for early access I did not pre order just so I can go out side. Thats not an excuse. Matter fact you have the worst excuse ever.

I bet you would have pre-ordered regardless of the early access. You didn't pay anything extra for early access, so relax and do something constructive.

Killing dragons is my shit

  Laughing-man

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Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3390

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

8/26/13 2:12:03 AM#49

The amount of entitlement I've been witnessing on the forums, both here, and on nearly every other place, is obscene.

OP you should be ashamed of your behavior.

:-(

  Rewhymo

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Joined: 10/24/12
Posts: 53

8/26/13 2:16:40 AM#50
Originally posted by Laughing-man

The amount of entitlement I've been witnessing on the forums, both here, and on nearly every other place, is obscene.

OP you should be ashamed of your behavior.

:-(

+1

Because of my experience with mmos ive come to expect issues like the ones happening. So what they happen. Are your lifes so fucking lame and pathetic that ones games woes are your boring ass lifes crysis? 

Christ people. If theres an issue dont complain if your willing to complain that get off your ass and go apply at square enix and use your infinite wisdom and knowledge to help them better their game. but if you cant do that then shut up and go play another game while you wait. It wont kill you to do other things. 

This is why my steam library has 75 installed games. I always have some thing to do.

Issues happen get over yourself. 

  General-Zod

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 560

Kneel.

8/26/13 2:27:21 AM#51
Originally posted by Rewhymo
Originally posted by Laughing-man

The amount of entitlement I've been witnessing on the forums, both here, and on nearly every other place, is obscene.

OP you should be ashamed of your behavior.

:-(

+1

Because of my experience with mmos ive come to expect issues like the ones happening. So what they happen. Are your lifes so fucking lame and pathetic that ones games woes are your boring ass lifes crysis? 

Christ people. If theres an issue dont complain if your willing to complain that get off your ass and go apply at square enix and use your infinite wisdom and knowledge to help them better their game. but if you cant do that then shut up and go play another game while you wait. It wont kill you to do other things. 

This is why my steam library has 75 installed games. I always have some thing to do.

Issues happen get over yourself. 

When I see threads like this on Mmorpg.com it reminds me of this Louis c.k clip...

http://www.you.tube.com/watch?v=6uyKNYzpwZI

  Tinybina

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8/26/13 2:34:31 AM#52
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Early access should actually be easier than launch.

 

^ This

 

LOL THIS THIS THIS AND THIS^ 

 

I don't think many of you are getting it, if they are having these issues now, just wait until the main group of people that want to play this log in....

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  jskeets916

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Joined: 1/08/13
Posts: 160

8/26/13 2:44:11 AM#53
Originally posted by Tinybina
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Early access should actually be easier than launch.

 

^ This

 

LOL THIS THIS THIS AND THIS^ 

 

I don't think many of you are getting it, if they are having these issues now, just wait until the main group of people that want to play this log in....

I think we get it actually quite well.

 

You said it yourself this doesn't include "the main group of people" (although i'd wager you underestimate the amount of eager folks this generation who wanted in asap) so what does that tell you about the sheer number of participants if servers are already being pounded and are consistently full?

 

We understand more customers lined up than SE bargained for, not a bad thing whatsoever.  Does this mean the first week or two may be rocky? Yes

 

Does this change what the game has to offer or the experience most of us FF vets have signed up for? (See FFXI 10+ years of content)

 

No.  Exercise patience.  Perhaps some inner breathing, yoga, gym, socializing with friends or whatever is your thing to pass the time I mean really it has been 2 years of redeveloping why throw a fit that the servers are overloaded when this is inevitable with the launch of a popular AAA MMO (SWTOR, WoW).

 

2013 doesn't mean excess demand no longer will bottleneck even the most prepared development teams launch week.

 

 

  Margulis

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8/26/13 2:46:41 AM#54
Originally posted by Torcip
Originally posted by nomatics856
Originally posted by Maelzrael
Yea I wouldn't call this next gen, it brings almost nothing new to the table that I experienced. Also it's been said that the game hasn't officially launched yet.. if that matters.

This isnt a beta.

And neither has it launched. When it launches then you can come back and say it's the worst launch and no one is going to debate whether it's launched or not.

This is in essence the same as the "it's just in beta argument".  Early access - it has launched, I don't care what it technically is being called.

  Smoey

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8/26/13 2:58:24 AM#55
I've played quite a lot it's far from being the worst. WoW had teething issues too same with every game. You're using software which is something that will never be fully bug free.

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  Ineveraskforthis

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Posts: 379

8/26/13 3:40:36 AM#56

The amount of apologist who willingly accept and justify the incapability of SE blow my mind.

The problematic launch is inevitable with the minimum amount of stress testing and open beta testing they did, can you imagine what would happen if they do not have the "early access or nearly access" .

Once again, they should had either extended the phase four beta into a real meaningful beta or delay the launch date.

  sumdumguy1

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8/26/13 5:27:36 AM#57
IMO this isn't the worst launch I have ever been a part of, however I may rank it in my top 5.  I love this game but some of these issues should have been addressed.  I expect some issues, but it seems like they had some warning on some of them and they still happened.   That being said, what can we do really?  Right now it is what it is.
  lathaan

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Posts: 482

8/26/13 5:34:27 AM#58

what about that crap would you consider next-gen? ^^

Its made for 100 year old roleplayers, and they love it!

  taus01

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8/26/13 5:46:59 AM#59
Originally posted by Zhenocnra

L O L THIS IS HILARIOUS LOL! Square Enix is SO funny, LOL! I can't even believe I held out hope they'd recognize if beta was as crowded as it was, official release is going to be a FUNNY FEST LOLOLOL! And if the servers keep saying "the world is full, please try again later", I'm sure Square Enix believes this will be an acceptable and sufficient answer to their customers

 

AHAHAHAHA Square Enix you're just digging your own grave now, LOL! Keep going!

Whatever you are taking, you should go easy on it, old sport.

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  Knightblast

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8/26/13 6:02:16 AM#60

My bet is that the bulk of people who want to play at this point (not the "I'll wait and see" folks, but the folks who want to play at "release") did early access.  It's like that in pretty much every MMO that has an early access, because there is no real upside to skipping the weekend before release date for no additional cost if you are just going to buy the game 2 days later anyway.  There are exceptions, of course (e.g., people who were booked this weekend), but by and large this is the way MMO releases that have early access go -- there are more people coming in on release day, but the big wad of people comes on early release, which is really more of a soft launch or a "pre-opening" phase than anything else.  As a result I expect more people on Tuesday, and that will add to the stress on the servers, but I also expect that the bulk who want to play on "release" did early access.

 

The launch is kind of "meh".  Neither the best nor the worst.  The main issues seem to be (1) too few servers for the world outside Japan (a curious choice given the amount of $$$ SE has burned remaking the game) and (2) the network architecture on the back-end of the game that appears to have bottlenecks around the instance server/finder that are specific to the back-end design of this game.  Point (2) is more troubling than point (1), because point (1), while irritating, is also relatively easy to resolve.  I'm not so sure about point (2).

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