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8/25/13 12:26:53 PM#101
Originally posted by MyownGod
Originally posted by Syno23
MMOs just do not launch correctly. I mean yeah, SW:TOR had the perfect launch, with sacrifices that pissed people off called waves. Guild Wars 2's launch was pretty much flawless. But that's because those people knew what they were doing.

GW2 had a flawless launch? Jesus where were you man, during launch you might even call it Bugs Wars 2, cause honestly the bugs there was ridiculous, never seen any like it in any game except Vanguard.

LOL GW2 didn't even have a forum where you could discuss issues you were having and find solutions

  StormXXX

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Joined: 4/14/06
Posts: 49

 
OP  8/25/13 12:29:23 PM#102
Originally posted by MyownGod
Originally posted by Elegance92

I wouldn't go that far, but it's definitely my worst experience with a launch yet.

And yes, this is effectively launch.

Oh man, you haven't seen Vanguard launch and DarkFall, I'm telling you man, FFXIV compared to them, is pretty smooth.

Oh yea Vanguard... I was there, but i remember WoW being worse than Vanguard though...  Not Anarchy Online worse, but still. This business with FFXIV is just reviving those bitter memories.

  Mattatron

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Joined: 8/12/13
Posts: 237

8/25/13 12:31:41 PM#103
Originally posted by wirawan1234

the problem is, japanese servers are allright, and they have the most servers

so i in eu server feel a little bit unfair, when the game undergo maintenance twice in two days

Well, to be honest, there have been 4 maintenances. 2 yesterday, 1 early this morning, 1 now.

 

I know I'm giving bored people ammunition, but at least they could get facts right when they lambast with their opinions.

  nationalcity

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Joined: 10/31/04
Posts: 343

8/25/13 12:37:01 PM#104
Originally posted by Pandrax
Originally posted by StormXXX

Well seems to me like another failed mmo release.

Servers are down half the time either for maintenance or just not letting people in with multitude of error messages.

 

I've been trying to play since yesterday, but there is constant stream of problems preventing me from even creating a character. At the moment it's all European servers being "full" and not letting me make any new character there. I had to go and create one on NA server just to post on the official forum as the site tells me to pick a main character before being able to post. And even that probably at some poor bloke's expense since he will have to go to different server due to this one being 1 less character away from being full.

 

Last major BS release, that i remember, was WoW with servers being down half the time. I didn't have such problems even with Diablo 3.

I won't say i expected there won't be any problems. I mean last flawless release i remember in the mmorpg scene was Lineage 2 and that was ages ago...  But on this scale?

I know a lot of people specifically made some room in their schedule just to play the damn thing and not look at error 9000 or 10120 or whatever number pops up next to error message.  And then there is/was the problem with ps3 CE keys on PSN.

You would think that big companies would learn something from each other... And with so much riding on this game for SE (at least from the words of developers) man i don't know...

I hate to tell you this, but you are in the minority, along with all the people crying on forums about some maintence. I've had no issues with any part of the release.  No errors, no black screens, no creation issues, nothing. The majority are in the same boat as me. The only difference is the majority plans on playing the game, and not sitting on a forum bashing a game after one day of early access. If you cannot handle server maintence on a brand new release, then you should wait it out until a week or so after launch. You'll find you wont be as stressed over such a small thing. :)

I'm sorry to tell you this but your wrong.....

The majority are having errors as evidenced by the 150 page posts on the official forums or reddit.

 

There just having maintenance over and over because it's fun?

I mean I don't understand why you think the majority are not having these errors if that was the case why do they continue to keep taking the servers down every couple hours?

 

Now while I agree with you about the bashing cause that doesn't help anything the other part your wrong about......

  Lerchplus

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Joined: 11/07/09
Posts: 6

8/25/13 12:40:50 PM#105

A few emergency maintenance issues and the world we know it has ended?

Every MMO I've played had launch issues.

SE has done a good job communicating to people about this and I trust they're working hard to resolve it.

Until then, i'll go do something else for a couple of hours.

  StormXXX

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Joined: 4/14/06
Posts: 49

 
OP  8/25/13 12:45:06 PM#106

 but i am in and can finally start playing...

1.5 Days later than promised i am in with my level 1 conjurer :)

Hopefully us guinea pigs were useful enough and guys and gals on 27th won't have to foam about any major problems.

Now to wash down this long dormant aftertaste that resurfaced again with recent events... 

At least i have couple of hours left of my free time :) 

  Lerchplus

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Joined: 11/07/09
Posts: 6

8/25/13 12:54:31 PM#107
Originally posted by nationalcity
Originally posted by Pandrax
Originally posted by StormXXX

Well seems to me like another failed mmo release.

Servers are down half the time either for maintenance or just not letting people in with multitude of error messages.

 

I've been trying to play since yesterday, but there is constant stream of problems preventing me from even creating a character. At the moment it's all European servers being "full" and not letting me make any new character there. I had to go and create one on NA server just to post on the official forum as the site tells me to pick a main character before being able to post. And even that probably at some poor bloke's expense since he will have to go to different server due to this one being 1 less character away from being full.

 

Last major BS release, that i remember, was WoW with servers being down half the time. I didn't have such problems even with Diablo 3.

I won't say i expected there won't be any problems. I mean last flawless release i remember in the mmorpg scene was Lineage 2 and that was ages ago...  But on this scale?

I know a lot of people specifically made some room in their schedule just to play the damn thing and not look at error 9000 or 10120 or whatever number pops up next to error message.  And then there is/was the problem with ps3 CE keys on PSN.

You would think that big companies would learn something from each other... And with so much riding on this game for SE (at least from the words of developers) man i don't know...

I hate to tell you this, but you are in the minority, along with all the people crying on forums about some maintence. I've had no issues with any part of the release.  No errors, no black screens, no creation issues, nothing. The majority are in the same boat as me. The only difference is the majority plans on playing the game, and not sitting on a forum bashing a game after one day of early access. If you cannot handle server maintence on a brand new release, then you should wait it out until a week or so after launch. You'll find you wont be as stressed over such a small thing. :)

I'm sorry to tell you this but your wrong.....

The majority are having errors as evidenced by the 150 page posts on the official forums or reddit.

 

There just having maintenance over and over because it's fun?

I mean I don't understand why you think the majority are not having these errors if that was the case why do they continue to keep taking the servers down every couple hours?

 

Now while I agree with you about the bashing cause that doesn't help anything the other part your wrong about......

I know my point will probably be lost in all of the background noise of complaining about server down time....but i'll try anyway.

If you add up all of the posts on this forum and over at SE's forums they don't surpass the number of total FFXIV players.

So all you are left with is conjecture.

You might argue that this is a "representative sample" of dissatisfaction but even that it conjecture.

Please don't attempt to represent the majority unless you have the facts about who the majority really is otherwise you're just attempting to hijack the argument in your favor.

I had no trouble playing the game and understand and expected a rocky launch.

So did my roommate who is playing right now.

I apologize for my fiery rhetoric in advance.

  morbitangel

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Joined: 3/16/07
Posts: 52

8/25/13 12:58:30 PM#108
Originally posted by StormXXX

Well seems to me like another failed mmo release.

Servers are down half the time either for maintenance or just not letting people in with multitude of error messages.

 

I've been trying to play since yesterday, but there is constant stream of problems preventing me from even creating a character. At the moment it's all European servers being "full" and not letting me make any new character there. I had to go and create one on NA server just to post on the official forum as the site tells me to pick a main character before being able to post. And even that probably at some poor bloke's expense since he will have to go to different server due to this one being 1 less character away from being full.

 

Last major BS release, that i remember, was WoW with servers being down half the time. I didn't have such problems even with Diablo 3.

I won't say i expected there won't be any problems. I mean last flawless release i remember in the mmorpg scene was Lineage 2 and that was ages ago...  But on this scale?

I know a lot of people specifically made some room in their schedule just to play the damn thing and not look at error 9000 or 10120 or whatever number pops up next to error message.  And then there is/was the problem with ps3 CE keys on PSN.

You would think that big companies would learn something from each other... And with so much riding on this game for SE (at least from the words of developers) man i don't know...

hate to tell you but i was there at launch of lineage 2 and it was anything but flawless lol most ppl couldnt even login cos the loginserver was being flooded.

  Bloodaxes

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Joined: 3/03/09
Posts: 2664

8/25/13 1:00:02 PM#109

Wouldn't consider it a failure but not a good launch either.

I mean anyone who manages to enter the game (I seem to be able to join after a couple minutes even when it tells me full some say it takes them hours, I don't know.) has been able to play for hours before the game had to go on maintenance over and over.

At the moment my biggest gripe is not the maintenance or servers full BUT there's no countdown message that the server is going down just poof lost connection!

I mean what the hell? warn me a minute earlier or 5 just say something so I'm prepared....

  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 6126

8/25/13 1:00:07 PM#110
This is that high quality P2P you all spouted about in action.  I'm sure there will be more high quality P2P goodness in the months to come as they make the same "old school" mistakes and blunders every other dinosaur publisher has before them.  This is just kickin' it old school.

Curse you AquaScum!

  Arakazi

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Joined: 5/23/09
Posts: 864

8/25/13 1:11:01 PM#111
To be honest, I expected a better launch. It's not just the10102 and 90000 errors and the instance servers going down along with the shut downs, but the issues in getting EA keys and the NA players with the issues with the ps3 earlier in the week. The launch feels kinda rushed and clumsy. Although I understand that my bad experiences in the last day or so isn't the same as everyone elses, this has been the worse launch I have personally experienced since Vanguard. Rift, GW2, SWTOR, SW etc. have been much kinder to me.

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  stevebombsquad

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8/25/13 1:17:21 PM#112
Originally posted by flclimax
Originally posted by stevebombsquad
Originally posted by Syno23
MMOs just do not launch correctly. I mean yeah, SW:TOR had the perfect launch, with sacrifices that pissed people off called waves. Guild Wars 2's launch was pretty much flawless. But that's because those people knew what they were doing.

GW2 launch was flawless? Did you forget about the connectivity issues where thousands of people couldn't connect to the servers. Then there were all of the issues with  the Trading Post, guild services and the mail system. There wasn't a working trading post for weeks. 

 

Maybe this will help remove the rosy tint from those glasses.. http://games.on.net/2012/08/guild-wars-2-launch-plagued-by-connectivity-issues-fixes-incoming/

problems with the trade post queues and server hopping guilds pale in comparison to not being able to log in and the game itself literally not working, plus there were literally(not a guess) millions of people unaffected by most of those issues issues. and all besides the trade post were remedied in days.

GW2 stayed live and almost 100% functional. RIFT and a few others have had actually smooth launches. FFXIV is normal for most MMO's, which is in practice terrible. It's on par with WoW's launch for crappiness with nowhere near the player traffic.

GW2 launch was far from perfect. Just like I stated. I was replying to the other person's post where they stated it was perfect....which it wasn't. Not even close. And there were a large number of people that could not connect to the servers. It wasn't just a few..... 

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  StormXXX

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Joined: 4/14/06
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OP  8/25/13 1:18:13 PM#113
Originally posted by morbitangel
Originally posted by StormXXX

Well seems to me like another failed mmo release.

Servers are down half the time either for maintenance or just not letting people in with multitude of error messages.

 

I've been trying to play since yesterday, but there is constant stream of problems preventing me from even creating a character. At the moment it's all European servers being "full" and not letting me make any new character there. I had to go and create one on NA server just to post on the official forum as the site tells me to pick a main character before being able to post. And even that probably at some poor bloke's expense since he will have to go to different server due to this one being 1 less character away from being full.

 

Last major BS release, that i remember, was WoW with servers being down half the time. I didn't have such problems even with Diablo 3.

I won't say i expected there won't be any problems. I mean last flawless release i remember in the mmorpg scene was Lineage 2 and that was ages ago...  But on this scale?

I know a lot of people specifically made some room in their schedule just to play the damn thing and not look at error 9000 or 10120 or whatever number pops up next to error message.  And then there is/was the problem with ps3 CE keys on PSN.

You would think that big companies would learn something from each other... And with so much riding on this game for SE (at least from the words of developers) man i don't know...

hate to tell you but i was there at launch of lineage 2 and it was anything but flawless lol most ppl couldnt even login cos the loginserver was being flooded.

I remember that, but if you spammed that button hard enough you would eventually get in and play without any problems. They had some patches, but i don't remember anything that drastic.

  morbitangel

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8/25/13 1:34:00 PM#114

fact still is it was anything but flawless lol having to spam the login with a script isnt my idea of flawless.

not to mention the dupes that was around in interlude and for a bigtime in expansions most ppl dont even know bout

  Voqar

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8/25/13 1:36:48 PM#115
Originally posted by Rzep
Sorry to hear you are having so many problems. For me this has been the smoothest launch ever. I've had no problems from purchasing, registering, character creation, playing. It's been pretty much perfect. Hell, I haven't even experianced that much lag in the main city.

Welcome to MMORPGs.

 

I wouldn't say this is a complete disaster but it's pretty bad.  The duty finder issues mean any player who wasn't in OB and that got to 10 have very little game to play since the first 10 levels are all but given to you and you can't do much of anything else without clearing 10.  The servers have been down or inaccessible almost as much as they've been up which is pretty sad.

 

I would rate it as a crappy launch but I don't know about a failure, and it's definitely not a normal thing.  The game is pretty solid outside of the fact that duty finder, which is critical to the game, has been hosed, and that we often can't get IN to the game because they simply can't handle the load.

 

SQEN made about zero effort to get ready for launch.  They didn't have a real open beta - they limited then shut down access to it so it didn't really stress their systems, and having it so close to launch meant they couldn't really fix anything they found or retest it with more OB for significant problems.

 

They didn't let people register for the game until within a week of launch and that was a fiasco.  If you had no problems with that, you were lucky or had perfect timing for the brief window where it wasn't completely hosed.

 

I'm glad I noticed the 3rd scheduled 3 hour "maintenance" of the day yesterday ended up only lasting an hour.  I got on and cleared 2 duty find roadblocks for my character.  It was pretty glorious, there was about 1/10th of the players online and you could actually enjoy the landscape instead of seeing a player every 10 feet.  The noob zones were almost empty.

 

It made me wish this game had some kind of channel thing like other games to keep zones less over cluttered during times of high pop.

 

Premium MMORPGs do not feature built-in cheating via cash for gold pay 2 win. PLAY to win or don't play.

  Drithe

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Joined: 12/24/05
Posts: 53

8/25/13 1:42:43 PM#116

 Let's see. Where to start?

 

Many people are without keys who preordered FFF 14, either from EB games or SE. Error 3201. Dear god that error. Then there were at least 3 more numbered errors I cant even remember. Questionable login issues having us to wait in Que. Now we have just plain old login issues where no one can get in. We have spent as much time with SquareEnix's repairs as we have actually playing it!

 

  The game itself has quite a few bugs. Some quests have not worked. The instances to main quests do not work. I waited hours and hours to even get into just one. I was level 21 before I could get into Satasha or whatever the name of the level 15 instance was.

 

 I just don't know what to think. Diablo 3 is coming out in 2 weeks. I think that SE has really dropped the ball on this mmo and I just don't see me paying 45 bucks plus 13 bucks a month to tweak and help make this game what it should be. Hell, they should be paying US to test for them!!!

 

End of line.

  robert4818

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Joined: 4/14/03
Posts: 661

"Everyone is born with just a spark of madness. You mustn't lose it."

--Robin Williams

8/25/13 1:45:33 PM#117
Originally posted by StormXXX

Well seems to me like another failed mmo release.

Servers are down half the time either for maintenance or just not letting people in with multitude of error messages.

 

I've been trying to play since yesterday, but there is constant stream of problems preventing me from even creating a character. At the moment it's all European servers being "full" and not letting me make any new character there. I had to go and create one on NA server just to post on the official forum as the site tells me to pick a main character before being able to post. And even that probably at some poor bloke's expense since he will have to go to different server due to this one being 1 less character away from being full.

 

Last major BS release, that i remember, was WoW with servers being down half the time. I didn't have such problems even with Diablo 3.

I won't say i expected there won't be any problems. I mean last flawless release i remember in the mmorpg scene was Lineage 2 and that was ages ago...  But on this scale?

I know a lot of people specifically made some room in their schedule just to play the damn thing and not look at error 9000 or 10120 or whatever number pops up next to error message.  And then there is/was the problem with ps3 CE keys on PSN.

You would think that big companies would learn something from each other... And with so much riding on this game for SE (at least from the words of developers) man i don't know...

I think the biggest issue is that Square's Open Beta lasted 2-3 days.  These are issues that SHOULD have been sorted out during normal Open Beta Stress testing.  

That being said, this isn't uncommon for an MMO launch failure.  

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  Kabaal

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Joined: 8/02/05
Posts: 2969

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8/25/13 1:46:07 PM#118
Originally posted by Drithe

 I think that SE has really dropped the ball on this mmo and I just don't see me paying 45 bucks plus 13 bucks a month to tweak and help make this game what it should be. Hell, they should be paying US to test for them!!!

 

Not goig to comment on the rest as the bugs are annoying the heck out of me but you shouldn't be paying that much for the game in the first place, it only costs something like £14 for the box from Amazon.

  Arakazi

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Joined: 5/23/09
Posts: 864

8/25/13 2:11:04 PM#119
Looks like the EU/NA servers are down again. The servers are are going of and on faster than New York traffic lights.

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  jarby

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Joined: 6/22/11
Posts: 75

8/25/13 2:17:55 PM#120
This launch is not NORMAL!  dont tell me its fine , they shoud test EU / NA servers  more before start.  Another bad thing  is that we cant do anything about it so people try to calm down  its normal reaction ) 
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