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  Gorwe

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OP  8/21/13 12:07:13 PM#1

Are you right wing(nationalistic, conservative, religious, Republican) or left wing(cosmopolite, progressive, people focused, Democrats) oriented in politics?

Am just curious...

  Grixxitt

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8/21/13 12:20:30 PM#2

Let's bring politics into the Free Vs Pay to play argument.

 

On A completely related unrelated note,

The above is my personal opinion. Anyone displaying a view contrary to my opinion is obviously WRONG and should STHU. (neener neener)

-The MMO Forum Community

  User Deleted
8/21/13 12:22:24 PM#3


Originally posted by Gorwe
Are you right wing(nationalistic, conservative, religious, Republican) or left wing(cosmopolite, progressive, people focused, Democrats) oriented in politics?

Am just curious...


agnostic,feminist,socialist

monkey meet wrench

  Aori

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8/21/13 12:22:47 PM#4
Peer to peer elitists? Pay to play elitists? ***** to ***** elitists? What was the point of the topic again?
  nottuned

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8/21/13 12:23:06 PM#5
F2P games cost more money to play.. they make a lot of money on them. not understating your pedantry.......
  Orenshii

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Joined: 9/14/12
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8/21/13 12:25:11 PM#6
Originally posted by Gorwe

Are you right wing(nationalistic, conservative, religious, Republican) or left wing(cosmopolite, progressive, people focused, Democrats) oriented in politics?

Am just curious...

 

Not here, i dont lable myself or seperate myself from other groups only to be hated on.

 

Amazing how star wars impacted my life, cause everytime i see one of these post i think.....

 

"Fear leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, and suffering leads to the darkside."

 

When will ppl realize, seperation leads to segregation, and segregation leads to racism/prejudice?

 

O

Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton

Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her

  Avarix

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8/21/13 12:26:32 PM#7

Yes, this topic isn't heated enough. Let's add politics, shake, and see what comes out...

 

People are people. There will never be 100% when people are involved, including this topic. 

  maplestone

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Joined: 12/10/08
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8/21/13 12:29:55 PM#8

I'm not a huge fan of reducing complex topics to one-dimensional tug-of-wars.

  Zydari

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Joined: 12/15/08
Posts: 84

Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil.
Plato

8/21/13 12:30:19 PM#9
You do realize it's the game developers and distributors that created the pay models not gamers. They found they could nickel and dime more money each month out of some players using a F2P model that made them more revenue than the subs. Now the fact that some people take advantage of the F2P model over P2P is more a reflection on the quality of the games out there now than the gamers. Taking a gaming pay model and sterotyping people based on it is shallow and sad.

Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.

Thomas Jefferson

  Yukmarc

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8/21/13 12:31:15 PM#10
It's Bushes fault that the gaming companies went F2P in the first place! Dang Republican corporate greed!
  Zydari

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Joined: 12/15/08
Posts: 84

Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil.
Plato

8/21/13 12:33:27 PM#11
Originally posted by Yukmarc
It's Bushes fault that the gaming companies went F2P in the first place! Dang Republican corporate greed!

Don't know about who's fault it is but it is all about greed. 

Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.

Thomas Jefferson

  Orenshii

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Joined: 9/14/12
Posts: 64

8/21/13 12:35:07 PM#12
Originally posted by Zydari
Originally posted by Yukmarc
It's Bushes fault that the gaming companies went F2P in the first place! Dang Republican corporate greed!

Don't know about who's fault it is but it is all about greed. 

just dont try to look for a way to escape it. you will find yourself very very demoralized...

 

*looks at a battery and sighs*

 

O

Destiny has cheated me
By forcing me to decide upon
The woman that I idolise
Or the hands of an automaton

Without these hands I can't complete
The opera that was captivating her
But if I keep them, and she marries him
Then he probably won't want me dating her

  SnarlingWolf

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Joined: 6/23/09
Posts: 2728

8/21/13 12:35:14 PM#13

I would make a new thread with a poll of if we need more threads on P2P vs F2P (since clearly the F2P players are severely emotionally hurt that 2 different upcoming games shunned their model), but last time I did that with EQNext as a satirical point of there being 13 different EQNext poll threads going on at the same time some over zealous moderator got all angry.

 

So instead I will just flat out say this is ridiculous and flat our amusing to watch this many different threads on the exact same topic be made just because the real elitists, F2P players who demand that everything they want be free of charge, are angry that not everyone in the industry agrees with them.

  Rusque

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Joined: 6/08/10
Posts: 1713

8/21/13 12:36:20 PM#14

What does P2P have to do with politics . . .

Until f2p became popular, people of all stripes were subbing to games. There's arguments to be made for both payment models, but F2P may have lost some luster as time passed for developers who knows?

Though I'm sure if FFARR, TESO, WS can't hold subs, they'll go F2P. But it would be smart to go with sub at first because if the game succeeds then you have better player retention and a stable source of revenue.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19773

8/21/13 12:46:54 PM#15
Originally posted by nottuned
F2P games cost more money to play.. they make a lot of money on them. not understating your pedantry.......

F2P games cost more money, to the whales, to play. No doubt about that.

It just does not cost me anything.

 

  Gorwe

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Joined: 9/16/11
Posts: 1803

 
OP  8/21/13 1:31:35 PM#16

What does this topic have to do with politics you say.

Well a LOT of you who got what you wanted are acting wrong. Saying things like "I hate poor, unemployed freeloaders"/"Get a job and join the world"/"Down with cash shops and free trolls" makes me think that over 80% people speaking that are Right wing oriented. How can someone even look himself in the mirror after saying example #1 is beyond me.

Plus, DO NOT lump us B2Ps with F2Ps! We HATE it as much as you do, if not more(seeing how we are 90% of time judged to be f2ps-which we ARE NOT!)...

  Xthos

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Posts: 2648

8/21/13 1:35:47 PM#17
Originally posted by Gorwe

Are you right wing(nationalistic, conservative, religious, Republican) or left wing(cosmopolite, progressive, people focused, Democrats) oriented in politics?

Am just curious...

 Since I prefer p2p, but do not consider myself elitist, just prefer a fair payment model, can I ask you if you are:

 

1) Living in your parents basement.

2) Living in a card board box under a bridge.

3) Living in a alley, with a fire barrel for warmth

 

Want a answer?  Try making a thread that isn't biased from the jump in the title.

 

  SnarlingWolf

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Joined: 6/23/09
Posts: 2728

8/21/13 1:37:08 PM#18
Originally posted by Gorwe

What does this topic have to do with politics you say.

Well a LOT of you who got what you wanted are acting wrong. Saying things like "I hate poor, unemployed freeloaders"/"Get a job and join the world"/"Down with cash shops and free trolls" makes me think that over 80% people speaking that are Right wing oriented. How can someone even look himself in the mirror after saying example #1 is beyond me.

Plus, DO NOT lump us B2Ps with F2Ps! We HATE it as much as you do, if not more(seeing how we are 90% of time judged to be f2ps-which we ARE NOT!)...

So you made a post about how bad barrens chat was as a defense of how P2P can have the same problems that P2P players complain about in F2P games.

 

Then you go on to say that the majority of P2P people must be right wing oriented because of their (insinuated through context) negative comments towards F2P people which in turn is a way for you to insinuate that being right wing is also a bad thing. You further go on to ask how can someone say such things and still look at themselves in the mirror right before....

 

You continue on to then say please don't group us B2P with the F2P because we B2P players also look down upon those lowly F2P freeloaders.

 

 

Solid approach of jumping all over the map (insulting as many different groups as possible) where nothing connects back to earlier points all in an effort to get across your thought that B2P is the best model and that you are a GW2 fan.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19773

8/21/13 1:41:53 PM#19
Originally posted by Gorwe

What does this topic have to do with politics you say.

Well a LOT of you who got what you wanted are acting wrong. Saying things like "I hate poor, unemployed freeloaders"/"Get a job and join the world"/"Down with cash shops and free trolls" makes me think that over 80% people speaking that are Right wing oriented. How can someone even look himself in the mirror after saying example #1 is beyond me.

Plus, DO NOT lump us B2Ps with F2Ps! We HATE it as much as you do, if not more(seeing how we are 90% of time judged to be f2ps-which we ARE NOT!)...

How about well-to-do freeloaders with successful careers?

  Gorwe

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Joined: 9/16/11
Posts: 1803

 
OP  8/21/13 1:57:24 PM#20
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Gorwe

What does this topic have to do with politics you say.

Well a LOT of you who got what you wanted are acting wrong. Saying things like "I hate poor, unemployed freeloaders"/"Get a job and join the world"/"Down with cash shops and free trolls" makes me think that over 80% people speaking that are Right wing oriented. How can someone even look himself in the mirror after saying example #1 is beyond me.

Plus, DO NOT lump us B2Ps with F2Ps! We HATE it as much as you do, if not more(seeing how we are 90% of time judged to be f2ps-which we ARE NOT!)...

How about well-to-do freeloaders with successful careers?

Well that's another. I hate those too. It's like asking for super expensive wine when offered an expensive one. Just...disrespectful.