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  Torvaldr

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Posts: 5680

8/18/13 12:18:26 PM#121
Is this where P2P is higher quality?  The community doesn't look nicer that's for sure.  SE shouldn't get a pass.  They're taking money for the game.  The F2P games don't get a pass when they start taking money, so this game shouldn't either.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Ehllfhire

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Joined: 8/11/10
Posts: 590

Playing the FFXIV 2.0 Demo

8/18/13 12:20:20 PM#122
Still have 3102 along with most of the community, I see character wipes incoming :(

Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
PS3

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5021

8/18/13 12:20:59 PM#123
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Is this where P2P is higher quality?  The community doesn't look nicer that's for sure.  SE shouldn't get a pass.  They're taking money for the game.  The F2P games don't get a pass when they start taking money, so this game shouldn't either.

They are not taking any money until next week when early access / launch begins.

This weekend is the last beta weekend aka BETA PHASE 4!

You didn´t even have to pre-order to participate in this weekend, as it´s an Open Beta that was accessible since yesterday for everyone.

  NagelRitter

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Joined: 7/18/13
Posts: 613

8/18/13 12:21:01 PM#124
Originally posted by JeroKane

Nowhere is the word DEMO mentioned! Only BETA PHASE 4, as what it is and the email you got with the testing schedule clearly said FINAL BETA and started with the words: "Dear Beta Tester, ..... "

Like I said, I do not speak Japanese, which is why the whole thing is unprofessional. I have no idea what they said in Japanese. It's not my problem what they said in Japanese. My problem is the information the West had access to.

Which is this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QhmTw_8SRpJt99Vngqhsq5xjm5vuajyFhuuEXJYxmOo/edit?pli=1

"

f; in phase 4 please let us now the level cap and other that will be restricted

y; level cap is lower than phase 3, the cap is at level 20 for phase 4

y; the reason why is that this is more of a demo version where anyone in the world can play

y; so we don’t want to show too much at this point

"

If you have a different translation I'd like to see what it says.

Favorite MMO: Vanilla WoW
Currently playing: GW2, EVE
Excited for: Wildstar, maybe?

  Laughing-man

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Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3378

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

8/18/13 12:21:32 PM#125
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Is this where P2P is higher quality?  The community doesn't look nicer that's for sure.  SE shouldn't get a pass.  They're taking money for the game.  The F2P games don't get a pass when they start taking money, so this game shouldn't either.

They took money?

When?

Its not the 27th yet, so it's not launch.

I'm confused as to why people are treating this game like this is the first time any of this happened.

Remember SWTOR?  SWG? TERA?

Those were all worse, and on their actual launches.

This is a stress test.

Also, generalizing the community based off what?  I've seen the best community since FFXI here, people helping each other out and being friendly and stopping to explain things to new players...

 

SE doesn't get a "free pass" this just isn't a big issue, and molehills aren't mountains.

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5021

8/18/13 12:22:28 PM#126
Originally posted by NagelRitter
Originally posted by JeroKane

Nowhere is the word DEMO mentioned! Only BETA PHASE 4, as what it is and the email you got with the testing schedule clearly said FINAL BETA and started with the words: "Dear Beta Tester, ..... "

Like I said, I do not speak Japanese, which is why the whole thing is unprofessional. I have no idea what they said in Japanese. It's not my problem what they said in Japanese. My problem is the information the West had access to.

Which is this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QhmTw_8SRpJt99Vngqhsq5xjm5vuajyFhuuEXJYxmOo/edit?pli=1

"

f; in phase 4 please let us now the level cap and other that will be restricted

y; level cap is lower than phase 3, the cap is at level 20 for phase 4

y; the reason why is that this is more of a demo version where anyone in the world can play

y; so we don’t want to show too much at this point

"

If you have a different translation I'd like to see what it says.

You don´t have to use any translation. There is a whole ENGLISH section in the Beta forums where everything is posted in ENGLISH.

  Laughing-man

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3378

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

8/18/13 12:22:35 PM#127
Originally posted by NagelRitter

y; the reason why is that this is more of a demo version where anyone in the world can play

"More of a"

Doesn't mean

"not something else"

It means part of something, but mostly something else.

What was the part of that other thing?

A STRESS TEST!

La sigh...

 

Edit:  Just because you don't speak Japanese doesn't mean it's unprofessional of them to not cater specifically to you...

I'm so confused by all the entitlement.

  Gatorez1913

Novice Member

Joined: 6/09/06
Posts: 15

8/18/13 12:25:40 PM#128
I came in to this beta with very low expectations due to the disaster that 1.0 was.  I was really enjoying myself and planned on pre-ordering today until after 12 hours now that I can't log in to my character.  I understand that this is "beta" and issues can come up but the fact that there has been no information that I can find by Square Enix and the website is shut down does not give me high hopes on game stability.  I am not saying that I am not going to maybe order the game eventually but I'm definitely on hold for now. 
  Laughing-man

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3378

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

8/18/13 12:28:14 PM#129
Originally posted by Gatorez1913
I came in to this beta with very low expectations due to the disaster that 1.0 was.  I was really enjoying myself and planned on pre-ordering today until after 12 hours now that I can't log in to my character.  I understand that this is "beta" and issues can come up but the fact that there has been no information that I can find by Square Enix and the website is shut down does not give me high hopes on game stability.  I am not saying that I am not going to maybe order the game eventually but I'm definitely on hold for now. 

The website isn't shut down, it's stressed to the point of breaking, so they took it down to devote more resources to the server infrastructure. They added 5 servers last night, and expanded the capacity of all the existing ones.

This is pretty standard for an Open beta, the number of people flooding the game right now trying to test it is causing critical errors, which is why this is at least in part, a stress test.

 

 

  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5680

8/18/13 12:29:36 PM#130
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Is this where P2P is higher quality?  The community doesn't look nicer that's for sure.  SE shouldn't get a pass.  They're taking money for the game.  The F2P games don't get a pass when they start taking money, so this game shouldn't either.

They are not taking any money until next week when early access / launch begins.

This weekend is the last beta weekend aka BETA PHASE 4!

You didn´t even have to pre-order to participate in this weekend, as it´s an Open Beta that was accessible since yesterday for everyone.

They're taking pre-orders and money.  It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay.  You don't have to pay in F2P games either, but they still get taken to task once they accept money.  Is SE accepting money for the game? Yes.  Now take them to task.  Either they don't take money for the game and get to hide behind beta, or they take money for the game and don't get to use that as an excuse.

There is a double-standard, let's be done with that.  Not only have they already taken a lot of money for this game through v1.0, but they're still taking pre-orders and resumed the subscription prior to release while they worked on the game.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Laughing-man

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3378

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

8/18/13 12:32:12 PM#131
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Is this where P2P is higher quality?  The community doesn't look nicer that's for sure.  SE shouldn't get a pass.  They're taking money for the game.  The F2P games don't get a pass when they start taking money, so this game shouldn't either.

They are not taking any money until next week when early access / launch begins.

This weekend is the last beta weekend aka BETA PHASE 4!

You didn´t even have to pre-order to participate in this weekend, as it´s an Open Beta that was accessible since yesterday for everyone.

They're taking pre-orders and money.  It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay.  You don't have to pay in F2P games either, but they still get taken to task once they accept money.  Is SE accepting money for the game? Yes.  Now take them to task.  Either they don't take money for the game and get to hide behind beta, or they take money for the game and don't get to use that as an excuse.

There is a double-standard, let's be done with that.  Not only have they already taken a lot of money for this game through v1.0, but they're still taking pre-orders and resumed the subscription prior to release while they worked on the game.

It's not.

Maybe you hold free to play to a lower standard and for some reason think that SE is getting a "free pass" but I don't.

I played Neverwinter recently, people ripped it a new one with all it's bugs and crap, I enjoyed myself and defended it and thought it was a pretty fun action game.

Same thing happens now, the  over reaction community comes out en mass and screams FOWL!

Now you are adding to it by seeing lines in the sand that aren't there.

 

 

Edit:  Yes, they took money for a product, it isn't released yet, you are upset that during a period of EXTREME stress on the servers you cannot play, this is just silly and unrealistic.

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5021

8/18/13 12:35:04 PM#132
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Is this where P2P is higher quality?  The community doesn't look nicer that's for sure.  SE shouldn't get a pass.  They're taking money for the game.  The F2P games don't get a pass when they start taking money, so this game shouldn't either.

They are not taking any money until next week when early access / launch begins.

This weekend is the last beta weekend aka BETA PHASE 4!

You didn´t even have to pre-order to participate in this weekend, as it´s an Open Beta that was accessible since yesterday for everyone.

They're taking pre-orders and money.  It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay.  You don't have to pay in F2P games either, but they still get taken to task once they accept money.  Is SE accepting money for the game? Yes.  Now take them to task.  Either they don't take money for the game and get to hide behind beta, or they take money for the game and don't get to use that as an excuse.

There is a double-standard, let's be done with that.  Not only have they already taken a lot of money for this game through v1.0, but they're still taking pre-orders and resumed the subscription prior to release while they worked on the game.

HA HA HA HA!  Seriously!

Have you looked at the gaming industry in general lately?

The big boys like EA, Ubisoft, ActiVision are taking Your Money for Pre-orders 6 months in advance these days!

Unless you live under a rock and never visited any Gamestop or other game store, but they already started taking pre-order Money for the New Battlefield and Call of Duty back in May/June, while it isn´t even launching until end this year!

And you start complaining SE is taking Your Money 2-3 weeks in advance? lol. /shrug

FACT is! Launch isn´t until end Next week!  It is CLEARLY advertised that way! Nowhere did it state that you are forced to participate in this weekends BETA PHASE 4!

Cheers

  Allacore69

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Joined: 10/25/12
Posts: 878

8/18/13 12:36:57 PM#133


Originally posted by Laughing-man

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by Torvaldr Is this where P2P is higher quality?  The community doesn't look nicer that's for sure.  SE shouldn't get a pass.  They're taking money for the game.  The F2P games don't get a pass when they start taking money, so this game shouldn't either.
They are not taking any money until next week when early access / launch begins. This weekend is the last beta weekend aka BETA PHASE 4! You didn´t even have to pre-order to participate in this weekend, as it´s an Open Beta that was accessible since yesterday for everyone.
They're taking pre-orders and money.  It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay.  You don't have to pay in F2P games either, but they still get taken to task once they accept money.  Is SE accepting money for the game? Yes.  Now take them to task.  Either they don't take money for the game and get to hide behind beta, or they take money for the game and don't get to use that as an excuse. There is a double-standard, let's be done with that.  Not only have they already taken a lot of money for this game through v1.0, but they're still taking pre-orders and resumed the subscription prior to release while they worked on the game.
It's not.

Maybe you hold free to play to a lower standard and for some reason think that SE is getting a "free pass" but I don't.

I played Neverwinter recently, people ripped it a new one with all it's bugs and crap, I enjoyed myself and defended it and thought it was a pretty fun action game.

Same thing happens now, the  over reaction community comes out en mass and screams FOWL!

Now you are adding to it by seeing lines in the sand that aren't there.

 

 

Edit:  Yes, they took money for a product, it isn't released yet, you are upset that during a period of EXTREME stress on the servers you cannot play, this is just silly and unrealistic.



My reciept says purchased. Says balance owed 0.00$ Says balance paid 39.99$ So yeah what about us who the have taken money from.

  Ehllfhire

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Joined: 8/11/10
Posts: 590

Playing the FFXIV 2.0 Demo

8/18/13 12:38:45 PM#134
Originally posted by Allacore69

 


Originally posted by Laughing-man

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by Torvaldr Is this where P2P is higher quality?  The community doesn't look nicer that's for sure.  SE shouldn't get a pass.  They're taking money for the game.  The F2P games don't get a pass when they start taking money, so this game shouldn't either.
They are not taking any money until next week when early access / launch begins. This weekend is the last beta weekend aka BETA PHASE 4! You didn´t even have to pre-order to participate in this weekend, as it´s an Open Beta that was accessible since yesterday for everyone.
They're taking pre-orders and money.  It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay.  You don't have to pay in F2P games either, but they still get taken to task once they accept money.  Is SE accepting money for the game? Yes.  Now take them to task.  Either they don't take money for the game and get to hide behind beta, or they take money for the game and don't get to use that as an excuse. There is a double-standard, let's be done with that.  Not only have they already taken a lot of money for this game through v1.0, but they're still taking pre-orders and resumed the subscription prior to release while they worked on the game.
It's not.

 

Maybe you hold free to play to a lower standard and for some reason think that SE is getting a "free pass" but I don't.

I played Neverwinter recently, people ripped it a new one with all it's bugs and crap, I enjoyed myself and defended it and thought it was a pretty fun action game.

Same thing happens now, the  over reaction community comes out en mass and screams FOWL!

Now you are adding to it by seeing lines in the sand that aren't there.

 

 

Edit:  Yes, they took money for a product, it isn't released yet, you are upset that during a period of EXTREME stress on the servers you cannot play, this is just silly and unrealistic.


 


My reciept says purchased. Says balance owed 0.00$ Says balance paid 39.99$ So yeah what about us who the have taken money from.

I paid for 1.0 ce which means IVE ALREADY PAID TOO. SE FIX THIS NAO

Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
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  Drithe

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OP  8/18/13 12:41:39 PM#135

This is the worst open beta I have ever been a part of.  One whole day without playing in a 2 day ONLY open beta event? Im telling you I bet SE did this on purpose to not have to open up too many other servers, knowing that there will not be any where as many people once the pay to play starts up.

 

 

  Pluppets

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8/18/13 12:46:03 PM#136
Originally posted by Ehllfhire
Originally posted by Allacore69

 


Originally posted by Laughing-man

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by Torvaldr Is this where P2P is higher quality?  The community doesn't look nicer that's for sure.  SE shouldn't get a pass.  They're taking money for the game.  The F2P games don't get a pass when they start taking money, so this game shouldn't either.
They are not taking any money until next week when early access / launch begins. This weekend is the last beta weekend aka BETA PHASE 4! You didn´t even have to pre-order to participate in this weekend, as it´s an Open Beta that was accessible since yesterday for everyone.
They're taking pre-orders and money.  It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay.  You don't have to pay in F2P games either, but they still get taken to task once they accept money.  Is SE accepting money for the game? Yes.  Now take them to task.  Either they don't take money for the game and get to hide behind beta, or they take money for the game and don't get to use that as an excuse. There is a double-standard, let's be done with that.  Not only have they already taken a lot of money for this game through v1.0, but they're still taking pre-orders and resumed the subscription prior to release while they worked on the game.
It's not.

 

Maybe you hold free to play to a lower standard and for some reason think that SE is getting a "free pass" but I don't.

I played Neverwinter recently, people ripped it a new one with all it's bugs and crap, I enjoyed myself and defended it and thought it was a pretty fun action game.

Same thing happens now, the  over reaction community comes out en mass and screams FOWL!

Now you are adding to it by seeing lines in the sand that aren't there.

 

 

Edit:  Yes, they took money for a product, it isn't released yet, you are upset that during a period of EXTREME stress on the servers you cannot play, this is just silly and unrealistic.


 


My reciept says purchased. Says balance owed 0.00$ Says balance paid 39.99$ So yeah what about us who the have taken money from.

I paid for 1.0 ce which means IVE ALREADY PAID TOO. SE FIX THIS NAO

This is a beta stress test.  There hasn't been a stress test yet.  To 'fix it nao' they would have to reboot and/or kick all players, and they would lose the opportunity to fix it in real time, assuring that it won't happen during launch.  The fact that they're hitting these issues is a good thing-- the whole point of this phase is to find bugs like this!

All you (or I) deserve for having purchased is being able to play during early access and launch.

Ehrmagerd is ok is "beta stress test"

 

PS) I bought 1.0, too.

 

  NagelRitter

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8/18/13 12:48:12 PM#137
Originally posted by Laughing-man

"More of a"

Doesn't mean

"not something else"

Edit:  Just because you don't speak Japanese doesn't mean it's unprofessional of them to not cater specifically to you...

I'm so confused by all the entitlement.

The poster I was responding to said the word "demo" was never mentioned.

It's not entitlement to expect the company you intend to give money to to communicate to you properly. That's actually fairly normal customer expectations. It's not specifically "me". It's most of the world since most people speak English and it is recognized as the global language. I am not even English originally, I'm Russian, but I still recognize that and if the developers of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would only communicate with their playerbase in Russian, I'd consider them unprofessional, too.

Originally posted by JeroKane

You don´t have to use any translation. There is a whole ENGLISH section in the Beta forums where everything is posted in ENGLISH.

The beta forums that are down right now. Also not available to non-beta-testers, btw.

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  tovonto

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8/18/13 12:48:49 PM#138
Originally posted by Drithe

This is the worst open beta I have ever been a part of.  One whole day without playing in a 2 day ONLY open beta event? Im telling you I bet SE did this on purpose to not have to open up too many other servers, knowing that there will not be any where as many people once the pay to play starts up.

 

 

Of course they weren't expecting so many players, FFXIV closed with about 2000 players and now they just announced they having 150k concurrent players in Open beta.

  NagelRitter

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8/18/13 12:55:41 PM#139
Originally posted by Gatorez1913
I was really enjoying myself and planned on pre-ordering today until after 12 hours now that I can't log in to my character.  I understand that this is "beta" and issues can come up but the fact that there has been no information that I can find by Square Enix and the website is shut down does not give me high hopes on game stability.  I am not saying that I am not going to maybe order the game eventually but I'm definitely on hold for now. 

I can definitely relate to this.

Do I love the game itself? Sure. But, you know, I want to be able to access it.

First, poor redownloading software. In this day and age, you can write a proper downloader.

Then, checksum errors, some of which date down to v 1.0.

I had to download the client through a torrent because I couldn't do it through their launcher. I've heard people relying on torrents in v 1.0 to get patches. I don't know if that's something I want to sign up for.

Account management problems. Now log in problems. I already had them block my account for a bit. Low communication with the West.

Hopefully, it will all tide over. But I'd hate to buy a game a not be able to play it, or run into issues every patch. These shouldn't even be a problem. Stress from too many people I understand. But checksum errors on download? What is this? These problems are not related to the game itself, and they're fixable, but they're kind of a big deal for a P2P game especially.

It's not better for any of us to pat SE on the back for this poor management.

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  Pluppets

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8/18/13 1:02:28 PM#140
Originally posted by NagelRitter
Originally posted by Gatorez1913
I was really enjoying myself and planned on pre-ordering today until after 12 hours now that I can't log in to my character.  I understand that this is "beta" and issues can come up but the fact that there has been no information that I can find by Square Enix and the website is shut down does not give me high hopes on game stability.  I am not saying that I am not going to maybe order the game eventually but I'm definitely on hold for now. 

I can definitely relate to this.

Do I love the game itself? Sure. But, you know, I want to be able to access it.

First, poor redownloading software. In this day and age, you can write a proper downloader.

Then, checksum errors, some of which date down to v 1.0.

I had to download the client through a torrent because I couldn't do it through their launcher. I've heard people relying on torrents in v 1.0 to get patches. I don't know if that's something I want to sign up for.

Account management problems. Now log in problems. I already had them block my account for a bit. Low communication with the West.

Hopefully, it will all tide over. But I'd hate to buy a game a not be able to play it, or run into issues every patch. These shouldn't even be a problem. Stress from too many people I understand. But checksum errors on download? What is this? These problems are not related to the game itself, and they're fixable, but they're kind of a big deal for a P2P game especially.

It's not better for any of us to pat SE on the back for this poor management.

From 1,000+ posts, I've never heard of anyone having download issues.

And as for account management and login?  Yeah, haven't heard of anyone having those either.

 

I don't want to sound like a douche, but it sounds like the problem(s) are on your end.

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