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  GameByNight

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Joined: 9/08/09
Posts: 80

8/17/13 11:16:46 AM#21
Originally posted by Phry
Originally posted by rodingo
Originally posted by NodboN
i would of gave it an honest try if it had been on pc, and might have liked it, hell i play combat arms and any shooter is a step up from that. 

I gave it an honest run on the PS3 and it's really waste of HD space.  PC players who want to play Dust 514 really have a superior choice already with Planetside 2.

Planetside 2 is going to be on the PS4, which means that Dust will probably be officially dead at that point.

the only thing that MIGHT save Dust now is a PC port, but honestly, its probably already far too late for that anyway.  Its dead jim, no need to take it out back and shoot it, just dig a hole and drop it in.

 

My guess is that the exclusivity deal is timed. I don't see any other reason why CCP would agree to it knowing that the PS4 was coming. When it's done, we'll see a PC port. The game may actually have a shot when it can get where it belonged in the first place.

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  Phry

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8/17/13 11:23:46 AM#22
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Phry
Originally posted by rodingo
Originally posted by NodboN
i would of gave it an honest try if it had been on pc, and might have liked it, hell i play combat arms and any shooter is a step up from that. 

I gave it an honest run on the PS3 and it's really waste of HD space.  PC players who want to play Dust 514 really have a superior choice already with Planetside 2.

Planetside 2 is going to be on the PS4, which means that Dust will probably be officially dead at that point.

the only thing that MIGHT save Dust now is a PC port, but honestly, its probably already far too late for that anyway.  Its dead jim, no need to take it out back and shoot it, just dig a hole and drop it in.

 

My guess is that the exclusivity deal is timed. I don't see any other reason why CCP would agree to it knowing that the PS4 was coming. When it's done, we'll see a PC port. The game may actually have a shot when it can get where it belonged in the first place.

There is such a low uptake even on the PS3 for this title, there was only a few thousand players, not even tens of thousands, whether the deal is timed now or not, it probably doesnt matter, Sony have probably moved on, and with focus now on the upcoming PS4, i doubt whether they'll be too bothered about continuing support for a PS3 game with such a small playerbase. Which means either CCP focuses on creating a PS4 client, and/or they create a PC client for the game, but at this point, what most PC players are interested in, future wise, from CCP is World of Darkness, and possibly extending WiS to a more 'meaningful' experience. But Dust... im expecting them to walk away from this one.

  Loktofeit

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Joined: 1/13/10
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Currently playing EVE, SMITE, Wildstar, and Combat Arms

8/17/13 12:20:27 PM#23
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Ozmodan

" It's a PS3 exclusive. In fairness, they probably got a boatload of money to make it that way. "

That quote immediately told me that this guy rarely uses the internet search feature to research his articles so you can read what he writes with a skeptical eye.  Just for you edification Mr. Coke, the game was initially going to be on the xbox, but due to restrictions that CCP could not live with from Microsoft, was switched to the PS3.  They intentionally did not do a PC version because they did not want it conflicting with Eve.

Anyone who follows Eve would know this, hence I really have to question your ability to be qualified to write this article at all.

What the author did do, was point out the major problems with this game.  From a console player's perspective this is a poorly written FPS.  It is pay-to-win.  I am not sure why CCP decided they should get into the console business, but they should have hired some designers with console FPS experience.  They really need to change how they fund this game, as it stands I would never recommend it to anyone.

So, let me get this straight, you're discrediting my article because of one tiny, almost indisputable line and using the other 90% to support your own argument? And you believe that because CCP didn't hop on a forum and spell out that Sony paid them that it didn't happen? Pull that blanket a little tighter over your head.

I guarantee you Sony paid them for an exclusivity contract. It's how console exclusives work: Sony pays developers to make console exclusives because it helps them sell consoles.  The funding is why developer's agree to it because by tying themselves to a single platform, they limit their sales. Why would studios like Naughty Dog ever agree to console exclusivity otherwise? If you only pay attention to the MMO space, you may not know that, but if you seriously believe CCP is keeping DUST on PS3 to "not compete with EVE" -- a game so incredibly different that they are literally in two different genres --  you're naive. Nevermind that Sony also dumped loads of money into trade show time for CCP. It wasn't out of the goodness of their hearts, it was because they were invested and were trying to earn their return.

I do my research. Do you?

 

Then during your research you found that CCP wanted to do both XBox and PS3, but the XBox side didn't pan out, right?

 

"And wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica. Wikipedia is very reliable. You would be hard pressed to find a more reliable source for these kinds of things." -fovoroth

  GameByNight

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Joined: 9/08/09
Posts: 80

8/17/13 2:22:42 PM#24
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Ozmodan

" It's a PS3 exclusive. In fairness, they probably got a boatload of money to make it that way. "

That quote immediately told me that this guy rarely uses the internet search feature to research his articles so you can read what he writes with a skeptical eye.  Just for you edification Mr. Coke, the game was initially going to be on the xbox, but due to restrictions that CCP could not live with from Microsoft, was switched to the PS3.  They intentionally did not do a PC version because they did not want it conflicting with Eve.

Anyone who follows Eve would know this, hence I really have to question your ability to be qualified to write this article at all.

What the author did do, was point out the major problems with this game.  From a console player's perspective this is a poorly written FPS.  It is pay-to-win.  I am not sure why CCP decided they should get into the console business, but they should have hired some designers with console FPS experience.  They really need to change how they fund this game, as it stands I would never recommend it to anyone.

So, let me get this straight, you're discrediting my article because of one tiny, almost indisputable line and using the other 90% to support your own argument? And you believe that because CCP didn't hop on a forum and spell out that Sony paid them that it didn't happen? Pull that blanket a little tighter over your head.

I guarantee you Sony paid them for an exclusivity contract. It's how console exclusives work: Sony pays developers to make console exclusives because it helps them sell consoles.  The funding is why developer's agree to it because by tying themselves to a single platform, they limit their sales. Why would studios like Naughty Dog ever agree to console exclusivity otherwise? If you only pay attention to the MMO space, you may not know that, but if you seriously believe CCP is keeping DUST on PS3 to "not compete with EVE" -- a game so incredibly different that they are literally in two different genres --  you're naive. Nevermind that Sony also dumped loads of money into trade show time for CCP. It wasn't out of the goodness of their hearts, it was because they were invested and were trying to earn their return.

I do my research. Do you?

 

Then during your research you found that CCP wanted to do both XBox and PS3, but the XBox side didn't pan out, right?

 

Yes. Just like other MMOs in the past. I didn't consider it relevant because the end result is still the same: PS3 exclusive.

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  xaritscin

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Joined: 9/25/11
Posts: 303

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8/17/13 2:30:53 PM#25

as i said in a thread at the EVE official forums, "DUST514 should've been part of EVE instead of a standalone."

and by that extension, a part of WiS, which in that case should be improved and made more deep in terms of gameplay, the excuse that it would enter in conflict with spaceship gameplay is bullshit TBH.

  Rodentofdoom

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Joined: 3/02/08
Posts: 273

8/17/13 4:59:12 PM#26

If you are going to review a game product, do it properly.

re: Fundamental Problem #3 -- I could equally be reading a review for Planetside 2 or Battle Field with this, PS2 uses certificates for upgrades, BF uses specific weapon kills, D514 uses SP. It's the same mechanism for all three games.

re: Gear loss on death .. your a clone. when your killed, a new clone is activated. it's not you ..... it's "you 2.0" . theres a book called Templar One it's explained there.

re: Fundamental Problem #4 -- Dust & Eve are tied via the Planetary Interaction system. ATM only Temperate planets in Faction Warfare enabled lo-sec space are activated for dust battlegrounds ... its less than 5% of the planets in eve, afaik there are plans for D514 conflicts to be enabled in other areas of New Eden over time

 

re: Fundamental Problem #5 -- Battle Field and Planetside 2 are equally full of Pay to Win weapons, boosters and other useful equipment.

to be brutally honest, getting a positive k/d ratio with 'militia' grade equipment isn't hard and if your focusing on your k/d ratio your playing dust wrong. win/loss ratio is far more important.

Squad play is more important. want to Rambo it up .. CoD is that way ---->

 

  Ozmodan

Elite Member

Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 6633

8/17/13 5:10:28 PM#27
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Ozmodan

" It's a PS3 exclusive. In fairness, they probably got a boatload of money to make it that way. "

That quote immediately told me that this guy rarely uses the internet search feature to research his articles so you can read what he writes with a skeptical eye.  Just for you edification Mr. Coke, the game was initially going to be on the xbox, but due to restrictions that CCP could not live with from Microsoft, was switched to the PS3.  They intentionally did not do a PC version because they did not want it conflicting with Eve.

Anyone who follows Eve would know this, hence I really have to question your ability to be qualified to write this article at all.

What the author did do, was point out the major problems with this game.  From a console player's perspective this is a poorly written FPS.  It is pay-to-win.  I am not sure why CCP decided they should get into the console business, but they should have hired some designers with console FPS experience.  They really need to change how they fund this game, as it stands I would never recommend it to anyone.

So, let me get this straight, you're discrediting my article because of one tiny, almost indisputable line and using the other 90% to support your own argument? And you believe that because CCP didn't hop on a forum and spell out that Sony paid them that it didn't happen? Pull that blanket a little tighter over your head.

I guarantee you Sony paid them for an exclusivity contract. It's how console exclusives work: Sony pays developers to make console exclusives because it helps them sell consoles.  The funding is why developer's agree to it because by tying themselves to a single platform, they limit their sales. Why would studios like Naughty Dog ever agree to console exclusivity otherwise? If you only pay attention to the MMO space, you may not know that, but if you seriously believe CCP is keeping DUST on PS3 to "not compete with EVE" -- a game so incredibly different that they are literally in two different genres --  you're naive. Nevermind that Sony also dumped loads of money into trade show time for CCP. It wasn't out of the goodness of their hearts, it was because they were invested and were trying to earn their return.

I do my research. Do you?

 

Then during your research you found that CCP wanted to do both XBox and PS3, but the XBox side didn't pan out, right?

 

Yes. Just like other MMOs in the past. I didn't consider it relevant because the end result is still the same: PS3 exclusive.

There was a lot of consternation with the Eve community over the PS3 choice.   CCP was very vocal about their problems with Microsoft, it was no secret to anyone.   I doubt Sony paid for any exclusivity, CCP was left with no choice which console it did the game for when Microsoft became reluctant to waive their restrictions.  You just assumed your facts when it is rather obvious to many of us that it was just not the case.  

 

 

  Illyssia

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Joined: 8/10/09
Posts: 1523

8/17/13 5:44:38 PM#28
Originally posted by uidCaustic
When they break down and realize console games have no lasting player base per game and bring it to PC, I'll worry about it then.

 

CCP could patch it into the EVE client. That would require a little skill and work on their part, so likely beyond them for several years at least. But, ultimately this is what they really want with EVE. Point-and-click screensaver style space battles and a FPS on the planets. It's really logical guys, but, you just have to realise that CCP lack the skill to actually write that game now, so you have half of it on PC and the other half on console today. But, EVE players like being kicked in the face and robbed from their wallets, so they will play all of this now. Now, I am not writing that EVE/Dust players are just mindless gaming hipsters now am I? 

  nathanknaack

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Joined: 2/02/06
Posts: 27

8/17/13 6:51:24 PM#29
Originally posted by Illyssia
Originally posted by uidCaustic
When they break down and realize console games have no lasting player base per game and bring it to PC, I'll worry about it then.

 

CCP could patch it into the EVE client. That would require a little skill and work on their part, so likely beyond them for several years at least. But, ultimately this is what they really want with EVE. Point-and-click screensaver style space battles and a FPS on the planets. It's really logical guys, but, you just have to realise that CCP lack the skill to actually write that game now, so you have half of it on PC and the other half on console today. But, EVE players like being kicked in the face and robbed from their wallets, so they will play all of this now. Now, I am not writing that EVE/Dust players are just mindless gaming hipsters now am I? 

EVE and Dust use different game engines. To say that integrating them would only require a "little" skill and work is inaccurate to the point of almost being insulting. Are you insinuating that the reason they weren't provided in one package is due to lack of competence or diligence?

The tone of your post seems to suggest that several other game studios have already created hybrid, cross-platform, multi-engine, multi-operating system, critically acclaimed MMOs. I think your information might be a "little" inaccurate. I wonder if you often criticize NASA for not doing the "little" extra work required to create faster-than-light spaceships by now.

I know it looks easy from the outside, but remember that there are hundreds of talented people working on this stuff. To sit on your sofa and complain that it's not perfect, free, or built exactly to your personal taste is a bit juvenile, isn't it?

  Yamota

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Joined: 10/05/03
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"I fight so you don't have to."

8/17/13 8:32:12 PM#30
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Ozmodan

" It's a PS3 exclusive. In fairness, they probably got a boatload of money to make it that way. "

That quote immediately told me that this guy rarely uses the internet search feature to research his articles so you can read what he writes with a skeptical eye.  Just for you edification Mr. Coke, the game was initially going to be on the xbox, but due to restrictions that CCP could not live with from Microsoft, was switched to the PS3.  They intentionally did not do a PC version because they did not want it conflicting with Eve.

Anyone who follows Eve would know this, hence I really have to question your ability to be qualified to write this article at all.

What the author did do, was point out the major problems with this game.  From a console player's perspective this is a poorly written FPS.  It is pay-to-win.  I am not sure why CCP decided they should get into the console business, but they should have hired some designers with console FPS experience.  They really need to change how they fund this game, as it stands I would never recommend it to anyone.

So, let me get this straight, you're discrediting my article because of one tiny, almost indisputable line and using the other 90% to support your own argument? And you believe that because CCP didn't hop on a forum and spell out that Sony paid them that it didn't happen? Pull that blanket a little tighter over your head.

 

I guarantee you Sony paid them for an exclusivity contract. It's how console exclusives work: Sony pays developers to make console exclusives because it helps them sell consoles.  The funding is why developer's agree to it because by tying themselves to a single platform, they limit their sales. Why would studios like Naughty Dog ever agree to console exclusivity otherwise? If you only pay attention to the MMO space, you may not know that, but if you seriously believe CCP is keeping DUST on PS3 to "not compete with EVE" -- a game so incredibly different that they are literally in two different genres --  you're naive. Nevermind that Sony also dumped loads of money into trade show time for CCP. It wasn't out of the goodness of their hearts, it was because they were invested and were trying to earn their return.

 

I do my research. Do you?

 
 

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  Yamota

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"I fight so you don't have to."

8/17/13 8:35:23 PM#31
Originally posted by Ozmodan
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Ozmodan

" It's a PS3 exclusive. In fairness, they probably got a boatload of money to make it that way. "

That quote immediately told me that this guy rarely uses the internet search feature to research his articles so you can read what he writes with a skeptical eye.  Just for you edification Mr. Coke, the game was initially going to be on the xbox, but due to restrictions that CCP could not live with from Microsoft, was switched to the PS3.  They intentionally did not do a PC version because they did not want it conflicting with Eve.

Anyone who follows Eve would know this, hence I really have to question your ability to be qualified to write this article at all.

What the author did do, was point out the major problems with this game.  From a console player's perspective this is a poorly written FPS.  It is pay-to-win.  I am not sure why CCP decided they should get into the console business, but they should have hired some designers with console FPS experience.  They really need to change how they fund this game, as it stands I would never recommend it to anyone.

So, let me get this straight, you're discrediting my article because of one tiny, almost indisputable line and using the other 90% to support your own argument? And you believe that because CCP didn't hop on a forum and spell out that Sony paid them that it didn't happen? Pull that blanket a little tighter over your head.

I guarantee you Sony paid them for an exclusivity contract. It's how console exclusives work: Sony pays developers to make console exclusives because it helps them sell consoles.  The funding is why developer's agree to it because by tying themselves to a single platform, they limit their sales. Why would studios like Naughty Dog ever agree to console exclusivity otherwise? If you only pay attention to the MMO space, you may not know that, but if you seriously believe CCP is keeping DUST on PS3 to "not compete with EVE" -- a game so incredibly different that they are literally in two different genres --  you're naive. Nevermind that Sony also dumped loads of money into trade show time for CCP. It wasn't out of the goodness of their hearts, it was because they were invested and were trying to earn their return.

I do my research. Do you?

 

Then during your research you found that CCP wanted to do both XBox and PS3, but the XBox side didn't pan out, right?

 

Yes. Just like other MMOs in the past. I didn't consider it relevant because the end result is still the same: PS3 exclusive.

There was a lot of consternation with the Eve community over the PS3 choice.   CCP was very vocal about their problems with Microsoft, it was no secret to anyone.   I doubt Sony paid for any exclusivity, CCP was left with no choice which console it did the game for when Microsoft became reluctant to waive their restrictions.  You just assumed your facts when it is rather obvious to many of us that it was just not the case.  

No, he is dead on. You are the one crawled up so far into your CCP fantasy world who believe everything CCP says as facts. They are not facts, it is just what CCP wants you to believe is facts.

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8/17/13 9:03:58 PM#32
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Ozmodan

" It's a PS3 exclusive. In fairness, they probably got a boatload of money to make it that way. "

That quote immediately told me that this guy rarely uses the internet search feature to research his articles so you can read what he writes with a skeptical eye.  Just for you edification Mr. Coke, the game was initially going to be on the xbox, but due to restrictions that CCP could not live with from Microsoft, was switched to the PS3.  They intentionally did not do a PC version because they did not want it conflicting with Eve.

Anyone who follows Eve would know this, hence I really have to question your ability to be qualified to write this article at all.

What the author did do, was point out the major problems with this game.  From a console player's perspective this is a poorly written FPS.  It is pay-to-win.  I am not sure why CCP decided they should get into the console business, but they should have hired some designers with console FPS experience.  They really need to change how they fund this game, as it stands I would never recommend it to anyone.

So, let me get this straight, you're discrediting my article because of one tiny, almost indisputable line and using the other 90% to support your own argument? And you believe that because CCP didn't hop on a forum and spell out that Sony paid them that it didn't happen? Pull that blanket a little tighter over your head.

 

I guarantee you Sony paid them for an exclusivity contract. It's how console exclusives work: Sony pays developers to make console exclusives because it helps them sell consoles.  The funding is why developer's agree to it because by tying themselves to a single platform, they limit their sales. Why would studios like Naughty Dog ever agree to console exclusivity otherwise? If you only pay attention to the MMO space, you may not know that, but if you seriously believe CCP is keeping DUST on PS3 to "not compete with EVE" -- a game so incredibly different that they are literally in two different genres --  you're naive. Nevermind that Sony also dumped loads of money into trade show time for CCP. It wasn't out of the goodness of their hearts, it was because they were invested and were trying to earn their return.

 

I do my research. Do you?

 
 

Sony should have played DUST before wasting money on its exclusivity.

  Loktofeit

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8/17/13 9:12:19 PM#33
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by Ozmodan

There was a lot of consternation with the Eve community over the PS3 choice.   CCP was very vocal about their problems with Microsoft, it was no secret to anyone.   I doubt Sony paid for any exclusivity, CCP was left with no choice which console it did the game for when Microsoft became reluctant to waive their restrictions.  You just assumed your facts when it is rather obvious to many of us that it was just not the case.  

No, he is dead on. You are the one crawled up so far into your CCP fantasy world who believe everything CCP says as facts. They are not facts, it is just what CCP wants you to believe is facts.

 

Oz, dude... bet you never thought you'd get accused of being a CCP fanboi, eh? :)

 

Well, I guess there's a first time for everything!

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8/18/13 12:52:31 AM#34
Originally posted by Ozmodan
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by GameByNight
Originally posted by Ozmodan

" It's a PS3 exclusive. In fairness, they probably got a boatload of money to make it that way. "

That quote immediately told me that this guy rarely uses the internet search feature to research his articles so you can read what he writes with a skeptical eye.  Just for you edification Mr. Coke, the game was initially going to be on the xbox, but due to restrictions that CCP could not live with from Microsoft, was switched to the PS3.  They intentionally did not do a PC version because they did not want it conflicting with Eve.

Anyone who follows Eve would know this, hence I really have to question your ability to be qualified to write this article at all.

What the author did do, was point out the major problems with this game.  From a console player's perspective this is a poorly written FPS.  It is pay-to-win.  I am not sure why CCP decided they should get into the console business, but they should have hired some designers with console FPS experience.  They really need to change how they fund this game, as it stands I would never recommend it to anyone.

So, let me get this straight, you're discrediting my article because of one tiny, almost indisputable line and using the other 90% to support your own argument? And you believe that because CCP didn't hop on a forum and spell out that Sony paid them that it didn't happen? Pull that blanket a little tighter over your head.

I guarantee you Sony paid them for an exclusivity contract. It's how console exclusives work: Sony pays developers to make console exclusives because it helps them sell consoles.  The funding is why developer's agree to it because by tying themselves to a single platform, they limit their sales. Why would studios like Naughty Dog ever agree to console exclusivity otherwise? If you only pay attention to the MMO space, you may not know that, but if you seriously believe CCP is keeping DUST on PS3 to "not compete with EVE" -- a game so incredibly different that they are literally in two different genres --  you're naive. Nevermind that Sony also dumped loads of money into trade show time for CCP. It wasn't out of the goodness of their hearts, it was because they were invested and were trying to earn their return.

I do my research. Do you?

 

Then during your research you found that CCP wanted to do both XBox and PS3, but the XBox side didn't pan out, right?

 

Yes. Just like other MMOs in the past. I didn't consider it relevant because the end result is still the same: PS3 exclusive.

There was a lot of consternation with the Eve community over the PS3 choice.   CCP was very vocal about their problems with Microsoft, it was no secret to anyone.   I doubt Sony paid for any exclusivity, CCP was left with no choice which console it did the game for when Microsoft became reluctant to waive their restrictions.  You just assumed your facts when it is rather obvious to many of us that it was just not the case.  

 

 

I have already explained the massive, common sense-breaking flaw of your argument above. Just because CCP didn't say something doesn't mean that it didn't happen. We can talk about the route they took to land on the PS3 but it doesn't change the fact that it is officially a PS3 exclusive. Whether of not you choose to see that because "Something, Something, Xbox" doesn't change the fact that a "PS3 exclusive" is different than a game which simply releases on PS3. 

 

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  Loktofeit

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8/18/13 6:32:46 AM#35

edit: nm. I'd rather not get Amana'd today. 

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8/18/13 10:51:37 AM#36
Originally posted by uidCaustic
When they break down and realize console games have no lasting player base per game and bring it to PC, I'll worry about it then.

^ enough said

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8/18/13 3:19:04 PM#37
Thanks for the writeup.

  Mors.Magne

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8/19/13 3:50:35 AM#38

I've played Eve Online since 2006.

 

When DUST was announced several years ago, I realised they had made a massive mistake of epic proportions. Up until that point, CCP was doing superbly well - they were 2nd place to WoW in terms of popularity. If CCP had used all their profits to make Eve Online the best MMORPG in the world they could have done it without breaking into a sweat.

 

Instead, they blew their profits to make 2 additional games (DUST and World of Darkness).

 

It's clear that future 'expansions' to Eve will be nothing more than up-dates and tweaks - nothing will be groundbreaking.

 

As a consequence, I think a new space game will soon be developed that will make Eve Online obsolite. CCP no longer have the resources or will to evolve.

 

Eve Online and CCP are heading for extinction, the only question is will it be next year or in a few years time?

 

 

  Phry

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8/19/13 3:59:04 AM#39
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

I've played Eve Online since 2006.

 

When DUST was announced several years ago, I realised they had made a massive mistake of epic proportions. Up until that point, CCP was doing superbly well - they were 2nd place to WoW in terms of popularity. If CCP had used all their profits to make Eve Online the best MMORPG in the world they could have done it without breaking into a sweat.

 

Instead, they blew their profits to make 2 additional games (DUST and World of Darkness).

 

It's clear that future 'expansions' to Eve will be nothing more than up-dates and tweaks - nothing will be groundbreaking.

 

As a consequence, I think a new space game will soon be developed that will make Eve Online obsolite. CCP no longer have the resources or will to evolve.

 

Eve Online and CCP are heading for extinction, the only question is will it be next year or in a few years time?

 

 

i would have to imagine its more than just a few years, as i have yet to hear about any space game in development that is likely to be even a slight threat to Eve. Not that it couldnt happen, just that for the moment at least, there isnt anything on the horizon.

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8/19/13 5:13:14 AM#40
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

It's clear that future 'expansions' to Eve will be nothing more than up-dates and tweaks - nothing will be groundbreaking.

 

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe ;)

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