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  jesusjuice69

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/07/13
Posts: 293

8/17/13 10:50:30 AM#41
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
who told you you this was a pve game? everone knows pvp makes more money than pve i find it hard think a game will just go full pve or people wont play it and i do not think you pve players can pay the wages

 PvP makes More Money than PvP???????

PvE makes more money. That's why the Market is flooded with it. Like it or Hate it, Look at WoW. the Biggest MMO to date. PvP is a niche crowd. A big Niche, but still a Niche Crowd.  They have games that are successful, But not the Top Money makers.

your point is not valid just an observation

 Not Valid?

Name one MMO that has made MORE than Wow.

You can't. That's why it is where it is.

counter-strike because in real day mmo gear is not special

 

That is an FPS game...

12 years old and still got servers booming why? pvp... rather eqn take pvp on ship or titan wll and tbh i cba c  blizzard takeing all the money again.

People still play CS, but that doesn't mean the servers are 'booming'.

They are still people who play EQ1, and lots of other really outdated MMOs.

  Giddian

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/03/06
Posts: 430

8/17/13 10:52:52 AM#42
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
who told you you this was a pve game? everone knows pvp makes more money than pve i find it hard think a game will just go full pve or people wont play it and i do not think you pve players can pay the wages

 PvP makes More Money than PvP???????

PvE makes more money. That's why the Market is flooded with it. Like it or Hate it, Look at WoW. the Biggest MMO to date. PvP is a niche crowd. A big Niche, but still a Niche Crowd.  They have games that are successful, But not the Top Money makers.

your point is not valid just an observation

 Not Valid?

Name one MMO that has made MORE than Wow.

You can't. That's why it is where it is.

counter-strike because in real day mmo gear is not special

 

That is an FPS game...

12 years old and still got servers booming why? pvp... rather eqn take pvp on ship or titan wll and tbh i cba c  blizzard takeing all the money again.

 

It isn't the same genre.

There will be PvP in EQnext it is confirmed but I would not count on it being open world pvp except on PvP servers. There is no way they are going to let 10 year olds grief everyone who has no interest in PvP.  As others have said, Everquest has always been primarily a PvE game.

 

As for titan, that game was pushed back with no plans for release and its devs were moved off the project. I wouldn't count on that game anytime soon, if ever.

without pvp it will die so id choose your words wisely

 THAT, is opinionated. Once again you think you speak for the Majority, But if it were fact, you would see a TON more PvP MMO's and Less PvE. But you don't.

  techninez

Novice Member

Joined: 8/01/13
Posts: 81

a society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.

 
OP  8/17/13 10:52:54 AM#43
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
who told you you this was a pve game? everone knows pvp makes more money than pve i find it hard think a game will just go full pve or people wont play it and i do not think you pve players can pay the wages

 PvP makes More Money than PvP???????

PvE makes more money. That's why the Market is flooded with it. Like it or Hate it, Look at WoW. the Biggest MMO to date. PvP is a niche crowd. A big Niche, but still a Niche Crowd.  They have games that are successful, But not the Top Money makers.

your point is not valid just an observation

 Not Valid?

Name one MMO that has made MORE than Wow.

You can't. That's why it is where it is.

counter-strike because in real day mmo gear is not special

 

That is an FPS game...

12 years old and still got servers booming why? pvp... rather eqn take pvp on ship or titan wll and tbh i cba c  blizzard takeing all the money again.

People still play CS, but that doesn't mean the servers are 'booming'.

They are still people who play EQ1, and lots of other really outdated MMOs.

are you taking into consideration of anyrthing? like maybe 90% LoL players love cs and come from that back ground or are you justa dooch who want a houseboat?

  Giddian

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/03/06
Posts: 430

8/17/13 11:00:37 AM#44
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
who told you you this was a pve game? everone knows pvp makes more money than pve i find it hard think a game will just go full pve or people wont play it and i do not think you pve players can pay the wages

 PvP makes More Money than PvP???????

PvE makes more money. That's why the Market is flooded with it. Like it or Hate it, Look at WoW. the Biggest MMO to date. PvP is a niche crowd. A big Niche, but still a Niche Crowd.  They have games that are successful, But not the Top Money makers.

your point is not valid just an observation

 Not Valid?

Name one MMO that has made MORE than Wow.

You can't. That's why it is where it is.

counter-strike because in real day mmo gear is not special

 

That is an FPS game...

12 years old and still got servers booming why? pvp... rather eqn take pvp on ship or titan wll and tbh i cba c  blizzard takeing all the money again.

People still play CS, but that doesn't mean the servers are 'booming'.

They are still people who play EQ1, and lots of other really outdated MMOs.

are you taking into consideration of anyrthing? like maybe 90% LoL players love cs and come from that back ground or are you justa dooch who want a houseboat?

 I think he just called you a Douche.

LOL.

Techninez is obviously a big PvP fan. Good for Him. Everyone want's to see their type of Game move forward. You have your CS fans and CoD Fans but the Bottom line is they are NOT MMO's and don't belong in a Comparison to one,

  Vutar

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/10/09
Posts: 751

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. -George Santayana

8/17/13 11:07:40 AM#45
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
who told you you this was a pve game? everone knows pvp makes more money than pve i find it hard think a game will just go full pve or people wont play it and i do not think you pve players can pay the wages

 PvP makes More Money than PvP???????

PvE makes more money. That's why the Market is flooded with it. Like it or Hate it, Look at WoW. the Biggest MMO to date. PvP is a niche crowd. A big Niche, but still a Niche Crowd.  They have games that are successful, But not the Top Money makers.

your point is not valid just an observation

 Not Valid?

Name one MMO that has made MORE than Wow.

You can't. That's why it is where it is.

counter-strike because in real day mmo gear is not special

 

That is an FPS game...

12 years old and still got servers booming why? pvp... rather eqn take pvp on ship or titan wll and tbh i cba c  blizzard takeing all the money again.

 

It isn't the same genre.

There will be PvP in EQnext it is confirmed but I would not count on it being open world pvp except on PvP servers. There is no way they are going to let 10 year olds grief everyone who has no interest in PvP.  As others have said, Everquest has always been primarily a PvE game.

 

As for titan, that game was pushed back with no plans for release and its devs were moved off the project. I wouldn't count on that game anytime soon, if ever.

without pvp it will die so id choose your words wisely

 

Neither Everquest nor Everquest 2 focused on pvp and they are still going. In EQ1 it was mostly on PvP servers, which are virtually dead now. Ya, the pvp server is dead, while some PvE serves are still active. EQ2 added PvP later in the form of BG's but they have never been all that popular.

Even in a game like WoW, PvP is only a niche.

You need to get this idea out of your head that FPS games are the same as MMORPG. They aren't.

  jesusjuice69

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/07/13
Posts: 293

8/17/13 11:18:39 AM#46
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
who told you you this was a pve game? everone knows pvp makes more money than pve i find it hard think a game will just go full pve or people wont play it and i do not think you pve players can pay the wages

 PvP makes More Money than PvP???????

PvE makes more money. That's why the Market is flooded with it. Like it or Hate it, Look at WoW. the Biggest MMO to date. PvP is a niche crowd. A big Niche, but still a Niche Crowd.  They have games that are successful, But not the Top Money makers.

your point is not valid just an observation

 Not Valid?

Name one MMO that has made MORE than Wow.

You can't. That's why it is where it is.

counter-strike because in real day mmo gear is not special

 

That is an FPS game...

12 years old and still got servers booming why? pvp... rather eqn take pvp on ship or titan wll and tbh i cba c  blizzard takeing all the money again.

People still play CS, but that doesn't mean the servers are 'booming'.

They are still people who play EQ1, and lots of other really outdated MMOs.

are you taking into consideration of anyrthing? like maybe 90% LoL players love cs and come from that back ground or are you justa dooch who want a houseboat?

Yah I want a houseboat.  You giving them away?  I will take 2!

  techninez

Novice Member

Joined: 8/01/13
Posts: 81

a society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.

 
OP  8/17/13 11:51:44 AM#47
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
who told you you this was a pve game? everone knows pvp makes more money than pve i find it hard think a game will just go full pve or people wont play it and i do not think you pve players can pay the wages

 PvP makes More Money than PvP???????

PvE makes more money. That's why the Market is flooded with it. Like it or Hate it, Look at WoW. the Biggest MMO to date. PvP is a niche crowd. A big Niche, but still a Niche Crowd.  They have games that are successful, But not the Top Money makers.

your point is not valid just an observation

 Not Valid?

Name one MMO that has made MORE than Wow.

You can't. That's why it is where it is.

counter-strike because in real day mmo gear is not special

 

That is an FPS game...

12 years old and still got servers booming why? pvp... rather eqn take pvp on ship or titan wll and tbh i cba c  blizzard takeing all the money again.

People still play CS, but that doesn't mean the servers are 'booming'.

They are still people who play EQ1, and lots of other really outdated MMOs.

are you taking into consideration of anyrthing? like maybe 90% LoL players love cs and come from that back ground or are you justa dooch who want a houseboat?

Yah I want a houseboat.  You giving them away?  I will take 2!

you have made a serious mistake do no follow any leage but im in love withbat so istay make shure he ok .. if ill do that for a movie image what ill do for a friends.

  jesusjuice69

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/07/13
Posts: 293

8/17/13 11:58:26 AM#48
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
who told you you this was a pve game? everone knows pvp makes more money than pve i find it hard think a game will just go full pve or people wont play it and i do not think you pve players can pay the wages

 PvP makes More Money than PvP???????

PvE makes more money. That's why the Market is flooded with it. Like it or Hate it, Look at WoW. the Biggest MMO to date. PvP is a niche crowd. A big Niche, but still a Niche Crowd.  They have games that are successful, But not the Top Money makers.

your point is not valid just an observation

 Not Valid?

Name one MMO that has made MORE than Wow.

You can't. That's why it is where it is.

counter-strike because in real day mmo gear is not special

 

That is an FPS game...

12 years old and still got servers booming why? pvp... rather eqn take pvp on ship or titan wll and tbh i cba c  blizzard takeing all the money again.

People still play CS, but that doesn't mean the servers are 'booming'.

They are still people who play EQ1, and lots of other really outdated MMOs.

are you taking into consideration of anyrthing? like maybe 90% LoL players love cs and come from that back ground or are you justa dooch who want a houseboat?

Yah I want a houseboat.  You giving them away?  I will take 2!

you have made a serious mistake do no follow any leage but im in love withbat so istay make shure he ok .. if ill do that for a movie image what ill do for a friends.

So when will you be delivering my houseboat?

  Allein

Elite Member

Joined: 6/11/13
Posts: 879

8/17/13 12:01:29 PM#49
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
Originally posted by Giddian
Originally posted by techninez
who told you you this was a pve game? everone knows pvp makes more money than pve i find it hard think a game will just go full pve or people wont play it and i do not think you pve players can pay the wages

 PvP makes More Money than PvP???????

PvE makes more money. That's why the Market is flooded with it. Like it or Hate it, Look at WoW. the Biggest MMO to date. PvP is a niche crowd. A big Niche, but still a Niche Crowd.  They have games that are successful, But not the Top Money makers.

your point is not valid just an observation

 Not Valid?

Name one MMO that has made MORE than Wow.

You can't. That's why it is where it is.

counter-strike because in real day mmo gear is not special

 

That is an FPS game...

12 years old and still got servers booming why? pvp... rather eqn take pvp on ship or titan wll and tbh i cba c  blizzard takeing all the money again.

People still play CS, but that doesn't mean the servers are 'booming'.

They are still people who play EQ1, and lots of other really outdated MMOs.

are you taking into consideration of anyrthing? like maybe 90% LoL players love cs and come from that back ground or are you justa dooch who want a houseboat?

Yah I want a houseboat.  You giving them away?  I will take 2!

you have made a serious mistake do no follow any leage but im in love withbat so istay make shure he ok .. if ill do that for a movie image what ill do for a friends.

I almost understood, then I lost it. I gotta find the translate button.

  Aelious

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Joined: 9/27/11
Posts: 2367

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8/17/13 12:44:18 PM#50
Its true that people love to play LoL, CS, CoD, etc. It's because the whole point of playing is PvP. It's not exploration, crafting, running dungeons, etc. that are highly popular in MMOs. Yes, there are people who also like to PvP along with the activities mentioned above but that group is much smaller.

You cannot apply the popularity of PvP games with MMOs.
  techninez

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OP  8/17/13 2:24:06 PM#51
i do not have  good english but from what a can gather your rpers would rather spend your time talking about my bad english than the the point i expressed so im from now on not takeing any of your rps serious
  Aelious

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8/17/13 2:43:59 PM#52
My reply had nothing to do with your language and I think answered your question. Also, it's not just RPers that don't prefer PvP. In fact there are RPPvP servers in some games.
  Victor_Kruger

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8/17/13 2:44:52 PM#53

My guess is that it will be set up like SWG which had the best system in my opinion for keeping pvp'ers and pve'ers on the same server or set up like EVE with different areas for pvp and pve. 

The best sandboxes that I played in benefits from having both kinds of players in it. Order and Chaos are needed for a good player driven economy and it makes the sandbox dynamic and ever changing. The devs said crafting will be the backbone of the game we'll see what they do with it. I think item loss will come from a system of degradation that will keep crafting players busy, maybe some item loss when deaths happen, don't think full loot pvp is happening unless there are different servers.

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OP  8/17/13 2:55:46 PM#54
now is not the time for fear that comes later...............  we can come to the full anser of pve and pvp do not work in the same team we want diffrent things and through roots we want very diffrent things so why can we not have  pvp server pve server?
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8/17/13 3:03:04 PM#55
Originally posted by techninez
now is not the time for fear that comes later...............  we can come to the full anser of pve and pvp do not work in the same team we want diffrent things and through roots we want very diffrent things so why can we not have  pvp server pve server?

Starwars Galaxies is the best example of not needing different servers for pve and pvp and the sandbox works better with both kinds of players on the same server in my opinion. Back when I played SWG I was pve only player and still remember my first day just logging in and walking into the middle of a gunfight between warring guilds, it felt like starwars too me.

  techninez

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OP  8/17/13 3:45:47 PM#56
Originally posted by Victor_Kruger
Originally posted by techninez
now is not the time for fear that comes later...............  we can come to the full anser of pve and pvp do not work in the same team we want diffrent things and through roots we want very diffrent things so why can we not have  pvp server pve server?

Starwars Galaxies is the best example of not needing different servers for pve and pvp and the sandbox works better with both kinds of players on the same server in my opinion. Back when I played SWG I was pve only player and still remember my first day just logging in and walking into the middle of a gunfight between warring guilds, it felt like starwars too me.

a true sandbox needs complete disaster all out warfare with forums saying who is x he is a troll this x these themparks mmo treying to make feel ok with ther life just because they they adopted our dark side why should we  bring them justice we give them sand box they say it stoo reall ? we give them role play ythey complain about therre love life?

 

 wow works because we are all delt the same hand if you start takeing away our fingers im unshure what will happen

  Aelious

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8/17/13 3:55:44 PM#57
A real sandbox needs forum PvP associated with it? There should be a line between the game and real life and if there are people that bent on always having conflict with others a medium for fun may not be the best one.

Some people like drama and some people simply like to battle real players instead of a computer. One get my respect and the other doesn't. There is plenty of drama and "PvP" in real life, take it there.
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OP  8/17/13 4:02:11 PM#58
im angery ork iv got my own ship because kool like that im togeather what  is it i can do or are you just fucking slagging me offnot leeting me doing anyyhing and juimpingh on my head telling  its themepartk themepark as i want be a sandbox player and try summbet back
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8/17/13 4:17:33 PM#59
There are areas between sandbox and themepark. If you're referring to people being able to annoy you without being able to kill them it's simple. Report them for harrasment. I've played a lot of MMOs and the only time I've had people actively troll me was in PlanetSide 2.
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8/17/13 4:22:31 PM#60

 

 

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