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  jesusjuice69

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Posts: 293

8/16/13 8:06:51 AM#141
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by Maquiame

This game looks like absolute crap. I don't care if you don't like cartoons. GW2 looks better than this game NOW. FFXIV:ARR looks better than this game (well hell everything really) NOW

 

And this game is supposed to launch next summer

 

I have no faith in this game at all, it animates like a stop motion clay movie with the hiccups. Hell AOC animates better than this game and how many years ago did that come out?

This seems to contradict those who sat in front of the PC and played it. Have you?

You could maybe defend the graphics, but the animations are indeed horrid.  Maybe they will be updated over time though.

Originally posted by NagilumSadow

Well I know they're not going to have player housing at launch, which tells me a little about what they consider important and not important. Apparently the player isn't going to rank very high in their thought process. The old level system grind is in place, which is an especially weak ground for innovation.

Removing leveling isn't innovation, its just dumb!

EQnext might pull it off, and I doubt it, but its a different type of game.

  Brabbit1987

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Joined: 10/02/11
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8/16/13 9:09:33 AM#142
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by Maquiame

This game looks like absolute crap. I don't care if you don't like cartoons. GW2 looks better than this game NOW. FFXIV:ARR looks better than this game (well hell everything really) NOW

 

And this game is supposed to launch next summer

 

I have no faith in this game at all, it animates like a stop motion clay movie with the hiccups. Hell AOC animates better than this game and how many years ago did that come out?

This seems to contradict those who sat in front of the PC and played it. Have you?

You could maybe defend the graphics, but the animations are indeed horrid.  Maybe they will be updated over time though.

Originally posted by NagilumSadow

Well I know they're not going to have player housing at launch, which tells me a little about what they consider important and not important. Apparently the player isn't going to rank very high in their thought process. The old level system grind is in place, which is an especially weak ground for innovation.

Removing leveling isn't innovation, its just dumb!

EQnext might pull it off, and I doubt it, but its a different type of game.

I agree on both things you said here. However, they did mention they are looking to improve the animations and they are well aware of this already. So we can most certainly expect that to be improved as they said it will be. They really havn't lied to us yet so far, so I don't see a reason why they would start, so I trust them.

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OP  8/16/13 12:24:37 PM#143

I'm shocked my post is still going, I posted this thing like last week.  I read all the posts,  I looked at black desert, and it does look amazing, unfortuantly looks like its never going to be released in the states or atleast no plans yet for it. 

 

As far as the its not an mmo game, I think the dev means this, and when you read the reply given to one of the posters by a dev was actually saying this in a coy way, "its going to be a solo type game like wow, or lotro and you wont be limited by forced group play, but on the other hand we don't want it to be looked at like a wow clone because it isn't because you can do anything as a group".  He couldn't say those words unless he wanted to piss off millions of wow players, so I'll say that for him. 

 

     I also wanted to address, the "stylized art" of eq next.  I wanted to say stylized is just another way to label something that we all know what it is in a more enlightened possistion, and for me to make this example I have to turn to my old comedian friend the one and only, George Carlie (R.I.P. my friend) who put honesty to fantasy in his piece on Soft Language, you can look it up on youtube if you want a good laugh about it  but bottom line....  Cartoons became Stylized Art, because the fear of it being called a cartoon is so great.  Maybe like Carlin, I wont ever have to die, I can just.... pass away!

 

  NagilumSadow

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Joined: 1/26/12
Posts: 246

8/16/13 2:03:41 PM#144
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by Maquiame

This game looks like absolute crap. I don't care if you don't like cartoons. GW2 looks better than this game NOW. FFXIV:ARR looks better than this game (well hell everything really) NOW

 

And this game is supposed to launch next summer

 

I have no faith in this game at all, it animates like a stop motion clay movie with the hiccups. Hell AOC animates better than this game and how many years ago did that come out?

This seems to contradict those who sat in front of the PC and played it. Have you?

You could maybe defend the graphics, but the animations are indeed horrid.  Maybe they will be updated over time though.

Originally posted by NagilumSadow

Well I know they're not going to have player housing at launch, which tells me a little about what they consider important and not important. Apparently the player isn't going to rank very high in their thought process. The old level system grind is in place, which is an especially weak ground for innovation.

Removing leveling isn't innovation, its just dumb!

EQnext might pull it off, and I doubt it, but its a different type of game.

 

If you think more dynamically, you'd realize the level system is arbitrary. Replacing it would mean putting structure in its place and sublimating exploration.

 


http://wyrdgaming.blogspot.com/

  Elikal

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Joined: 2/09/06
Posts: 8067

“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

8/16/13 5:14:12 PM#145

I am SOOOO not sure about the look now.

I watched this Quake-Con video again. And some... *other* sources. And boy... sorry but the screenshots look great. But ALL the videos I have ever seen of TESO look barren and bleak. Sorry, but that is my impression. Brown, Grey and oh look more brown and grey. NO I do NOT want Disney colourful fancypants either. But, sheesh, the videos show a world so damn barren. I can't say it otherwise, but nothing I saw in terms of visual world was aweing me. And everyone was wearing like brown sackcloth. All the same. All the time. Again all brown and grey.

And then combat, maybe people were dumb, but it looked like HACK HACK HACK.

 

Seeing those vids really disheartened me. I also read a preview on the German gamer mag 4Players who had a 2 hour session, and they too were not too thrilled and siad quests were just the boring same old we have seen 100 times. Like nothing to write home about.

Sort of dampened my enthusiasm right now. :(

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  IridescentOrk

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Joined: 5/27/13
Posts: 160

8/16/13 5:23:16 PM#146
not everybody will be playing in PC, many will play it in console, so does worried about hardware, there are options

gameplay > graphics

  RelGn

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Joined: 3/30/05
Posts: 515

8/16/13 5:26:00 PM#147
Originally posted by diabel

Also ESO isn't a seamless world, that's like comparing a pool to an ocean.

+2

  GrayImpact

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Joined: 11/03/08
Posts: 865

8/16/13 5:28:56 PM#148

Am i the only one who dislikes "Realistic" art styles?

 

They age really poorly, will look like crap within a few years compared to other games, and even when freshly released these games usually just don't look appealing to me, i absolutely love my stylized graphics and am glad EQN is going with them.

 

I'll still try ESO, but so far It looks quite poor to me visually.

  Iselin

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Joined: 3/04/08
Posts: 3808

8/16/13 5:46:50 PM#149
Originally posted by Agoden

Am i the only one who dislikes "Realistic" art styles?

 

They age really poorly, will look like crap within a few years compared to other games, and even when freshly released these games usually just don't look appealing to me, i absolutely love my stylized graphics and am glad EQN is going with them.

 

I'll still try ESO, but so far It looks quite poor to me visually.

Seen Age of Conan lately? 5-years-old and still looks better than most MMOs.

This "ages badly" thing is a left-over from the late 90's and early 2000's when both, CPUs and GPUs were changing drastically very quickly.

Last 5 years? Not so much...changes have been gradual and incremental. Check-out any of the top games from 2008 (Dead Space, Crysis Warhead, GT IV, etc.) they all still look great even compared to the latest single player PC games.

I wish people would just stop repeating this tired old marketing hype excuse for cartoony styles which are just a choice, nothing else.

 

  Elikal

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Joined: 2/09/06
Posts: 8067

“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

8/16/13 7:33:44 PM#150

The problem in the entire debate is, that everyone thinks of something slightly different in the terms cartoony and realism.

Personally, when I look at TESO videos and Everquest Next videos, I see two extremes which are both too.. extreme for my sake. While EQN looks too cartoony to me, TESO videos I have seen look almost like devoid of colours! Like the famous Zero Punctuation quote: "What isn't brown is grey and what isn't grey is too dark to make out."

I always favoured a balance between these two. Alas, realism too often in games means "dark and washed out". I do not want photorealism, or it would be nice, but I dont really need photorealism. I want acceptable realism. If you take GW2 and AoC you see not cartoony approaches, and both are colourful and vibrant worlds. Alas *so far* most vids from TESO do look waaaay too grey and brown like. That's not even realistic, because REAL landscapes rarely are like that everywhere.

 

So as so often I'd prefer a balance: lush and colourful like a cartoon, but realistic and not over the top colours; realistic but not dull.

 

So far, alas both EQN and TESO look too much like extremes at both ends to me.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  jesusjuice69

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Joined: 8/07/13
Posts: 293

8/16/13 10:34:25 PM#151
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Agoden

Am i the only one who dislikes "Realistic" art styles?

 

They age really poorly, will look like crap within a few years compared to other games, and even when freshly released these games usually just don't look appealing to me, i absolutely love my stylized graphics and am glad EQN is going with them.

 

I'll still try ESO, but so far It looks quite poor to me visually.

Seen Age of Conan lately? 5-years-old and still looks better than most MMOs.

This "ages badly" thing is a left-over from the late 90's and early 2000's when both, CPUs and GPUs were changing drastically very quickly.

Last 5 years? Not so much...changes have been gradual and incremental. Check-out any of the top games from 2008 (Dead Space, Crysis Warhead, GT IV, etc.) they all still look great even compared to the latest single player PC games.

I wish people would just stop repeating this tired old marketing hype excuse for cartoony styles which are just a choice, nothing else.

 

AoC had higher than average spec requirements when it launched.

However, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FipOSKZI45A, is hardly the best looking MMO on the market atm. 

The graphics are so meh, that it is only an iota above unplayable.

 

Why are you listing single player games?   They are designed to be run on high end hardware.  That proves nothing in regards to MMOs!  Cartoon art styles stand the test of time.  Sorry, but that is just a cold hard fact!  Maybe some time in the future there won't be any noticeable difference between high end realistic graphics from one year to the next, but it won't be anytime soon.

  keithian

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Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 2977

8/17/13 2:48:48 AM#152
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Agoden

Am i the only one who dislikes "Realistic" art styles?

 

They age really poorly, will look like crap within a few years compared to other games, and even when freshly released these games usually just don't look appealing to me, i absolutely love my stylized graphics and am glad EQN is going with them.

 

I'll still try ESO, but so far It looks quite poor to me visually.

Seen Age of Conan lately? 5-years-old and still looks better than most MMOs.

This "ages badly" thing is a left-over from the late 90's and early 2000's when both, CPUs and GPUs were changing drastically very quickly.

Last 5 years? Not so much...changes have been gradual and incremental. Check-out any of the top games from 2008 (Dead Space, Crysis Warhead, GT IV, etc.) they all still look great even compared to the latest single player PC games.

I wish people would just stop repeating this tired old marketing hype excuse for cartoony styles which are just a choice, nothing else.

 

AoC had higher than average spec requirements when it launched.

However, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FipOSKZI45A, is hardly the best looking MMO on the market atm. 

The graphics are so meh, that it is only an iota above unplayable.

 

Why are you listing single player games?   They are designed to be run on high end hardware.  That proves nothing in regards to MMOs!  Cartoon art styles stand the test of time.  Sorry, but that is just a cold hard fact!  Maybe some time in the future there won't be any noticeable difference between high end realistic graphics from one year to the next, but it won't be anytime soon.

Wrong! Cartoon games are just an excuse for lazy ass coding and are dated just by the nature of being a cartoon. Oh wait, this site likes to use the word stylized for lazy graphics,[mod edit]

By the way, next time work your fingers a little better and find a video of the game at max settings with someone recording it that doesn't hate the game. To me for a game this old the graphics look pretty damn good, especially when compared to your Wildstar game which looks 10x worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-avplhIg18

 

There Is Always Hope!

  Brabbit1987

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 683

8/17/13 3:45:15 AM#153
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Agoden

Am i the only one who dislikes "Realistic" art styles?

 

They age really poorly, will look like crap within a few years compared to other games, and even when freshly released these games usually just don't look appealing to me, i absolutely love my stylized graphics and am glad EQN is going with them.

 

I'll still try ESO, but so far It looks quite poor to me visually.

Seen Age of Conan lately? 5-years-old and still looks better than most MMOs.

This "ages badly" thing is a left-over from the late 90's and early 2000's when both, CPUs and GPUs were changing drastically very quickly.

Last 5 years? Not so much...changes have been gradual and incremental. Check-out any of the top games from 2008 (Dead Space, Crysis Warhead, GT IV, etc.) they all still look great even compared to the latest single player PC games.

I wish people would just stop repeating this tired old marketing hype excuse for cartoony styles which are just a choice, nothing else.

 

AoC had higher than average spec requirements when it launched.

However, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FipOSKZI45A, is hardly the best looking MMO on the market atm. 

The graphics are so meh, that it is only an iota above unplayable.

 

Why are you listing single player games?   They are designed to be run on high end hardware.  That proves nothing in regards to MMOs!  Cartoon art styles stand the test of time.  Sorry, but that is just a cold hard fact!  Maybe some time in the future there won't be any noticeable difference between high end realistic graphics from one year to the next, but it won't be anytime soon.

Wrong! Cartoon games are just an excuse for lazy ass coding and are dated just by the nature of being a cartoon. Oh wait, this site likes to use the word stylized for lazy graphics, sort of like overweight people who call themselves bears to make it sound more healthy.

By the way, next time work your fingers a little better and find a video of the game at max settings with someone recording it that doesn't hate the game. To me for a game this old the graphics look pretty damn good, especially when compared to your Wildstar game which looks 10x worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-avplhIg18

 

Cartoon graphics really have nothing to do with coding, so no idea what the heck you are talking about. It's very obvious you have no idea what your talking about. As a game developer, I can tell you cartoon graphics can be just as complicated as trying to make something look realistic depending on how much detail you want to add to it. It has nothing to do with being lazy at all.

Also your overweight analogy makes no sense -.-.

As for the video, the graphics are indeed nice, however, they are outdated. Graphics are not just judged by polygon count, it also has a lot to do with features and how things are achieved. A game that looks cartoonish can be more hardware intensive then this game if it's using pretty advanced features that are taxing on the GPU or CPU. Also textures play a very important part as well. You can turn any cartoonish looking game into a realistic game simply by changing the textures with out altering the graphics themselves.

Just to give you an example, here is minecraft with a realistic texture pack. http://minecraftworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/photo-realism.png

I suggest you learn a little bit more about graphics before you start claiming things that are far from true.

  User Deleted
8/17/13 4:45:28 AM#154
Originally posted by fistorm

Its 2013, and unbeleivable graphics have came out.  Bethesda and Zenimax have taken hold of these amazing capablities and made us an online game with them.  Elder Scrolls Online.  After seeing what EQ Next will look like, and its gameworld looking like last years Guildwars 2 gameworld in graphics,  there will be no one in the way to make this the most realistic MMORPG of the year, and in fact, all time.   I hope and have no doubt we will see more MMORPG's start to follow this amazing graphic outlook to push these games to look even more real and enjoyable.   Just wanted to say Thankyou ESO!

ESO Screenshot

Eq Next Screenshot

ugly piece of Sh*t looks outdated already while Eqn does not, that alone is a reason enough to stay away from games that try to replicate reality. if you turn to games in your search for realism how about you go out of your house for a change?

YES I DARE SAY THAT MAKING GAMES IS AN ART FORM,

more like... why do i even bother commenting on these stupid threads?

its not like my opinion has any effect on these boneheads

 

  Brabbit1987

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8/17/13 5:04:19 AM#155
Originally posted by OfficialFlow
Originally posted by fistorm

Its 2013, and unbeleivable graphics have came out.  Bethesda and Zenimax have taken hold of these amazing capablities and made us an online game with them.  Elder Scrolls Online.  After seeing what EQ Next will look like, and its gameworld looking like last years Guildwars 2 gameworld in graphics,  there will be no one in the way to make this the most realistic MMORPG of the year, and in fact, all time.   I hope and have no doubt we will see more MMORPG's start to follow this amazing graphic outlook to push these games to look even more real and enjoyable.   Just wanted to say Thankyou ESO!

ESO Screenshot

Eq Next Screenshot

ugly piece of Sh*t looks outdated already while Eqn does not, that alone is a reason enough to stay away from games that try to replicate reality. if you turn to games in your search for realism how about you go out of your house for a change?

YES I DARE SAY THAT MAKING GAMES IS AN ART FORM,

more like... why do i even bother commenting on these stupid threads?

its not like my opinion has any effect on these boneheads

 

o.o ugly? ...

 

X3 It looks perfectly fine to me. Both games look good. I think the ones who argue which is better are the boneheads. It's a stupid argument.

  BMBender

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8/17/13 5:18:41 AM#156
Originally posted by Graey
Originally posted by MindTrigger

You sound like a used car salesmen in a $50 suit.

The stylized graphics in EQNext allow for the constructable / destructable world, among other things.  I'll take those new features over the same ancient themepark crap from the likes of ESO any day.

I applaud you man, but you are talking to a brick wall. Not sure what is up with people but this whole EQ thing is being blown out of proportion. The OP is not listening to you, instead like a lot of people they are flaming the game and hyping another game which both are wrong btw since neither are out at the moment. I never see anyone whose views change actually come to this damn forum and type that they were wrong. This site isn't even used for discussion anymore but just gossip, and cantankerous moods over the tiniest of things.

 

How can you seriously be angry that they chose that graphics style OP, when you see all the other things that are being implemented as well...I mean seriously. If EQ did not change anything and just used say the graphics of Elder scrolls I wonder how many people would be okay with that. I just don't get it any more, its no longer about the wonder and amazement of gaming its just how much you can berate the next game and hype the next one after ad infinum.

 

Man sometimes I really hate this hobby.

Let me see if I can make how I feel about graphics/mechanics balance on an unreleased/un-played game a little more clear.

 

You know already about what the graphics in eather game looks like more or less; love, hate, indifferent easy to assign a value for either game.

all the great better than sliced bread save the world mechanics are great, however we don't know if they work well in synergy with game/players yet.  Little bit of guesswork on that one. 

I've heard a lot of dev/pub houses with help from marketing depts talk up a great game about mechanics only to get in game and see little more than epic fail.  Graphics are somewhat harder to mask, much easier to to at least make a basic valuation.

 

And why someone might go with a better looking game(to them) than one with somewhat better mechanics?  You gotta see  graphics all the time and if they bug you enough personally; best mechanics in the world won't help.  most mechanics are not in your face from the second you start the client till the moment you log off.  A mechanic that bugs you is somewhat easier to ignore.

EDIT: For me personally the mechanics would have to be the 2nd coming of gaming to keep me playing in a game with graphics I absolutely detest

   cartoons...bleh.

  AwDiddums

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8/17/13 5:29:30 AM#157

Realistic graphics have a time and place where they truly suit a particular gaming spectrum, such as CoD, WoT, Tomb Raider series, Zombie horror genre, Historically accurate games, the list is long.

When I enter a Fantasy based MMO I'm not looking or even asking to see realistic graphics, I want vibrant colours, I want outlandish enviroment, I want to see ornate and over the top armour and weapons, and I want my character reace to look both beautiful and visually stunning in all ways possible, not some guy with a short back and sides who looks like my neighbour with the beer belly.

Fantasy games demand a fantasy approach, not something that you would find in a quick game of Modern Warfare.

 

  Brabbit1987

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8/17/13 5:33:53 AM#158
Originally posted by BMBender
Originally posted by Graey
Originally posted by MindTrigger

You sound like a used car salesmen in a $50 suit.

The stylized graphics in EQNext allow for the constructable / destructable world, among other things.  I'll take those new features over the same ancient themepark crap from the likes of ESO any day.

I applaud you man, but you are talking to a brick wall. Not sure what is up with people but this whole EQ thing is being blown out of proportion. The OP is not listening to you, instead like a lot of people they are flaming the game and hyping another game which both are wrong btw since neither are out at the moment. I never see anyone whose views change actually come to this damn forum and type that they were wrong. This site isn't even used for discussion anymore but just gossip, and cantankerous moods over the tiniest of things.

 

How can you seriously be angry that they chose that graphics style OP, when you see all the other things that are being implemented as well...I mean seriously. If EQ did not change anything and just used say the graphics of Elder scrolls I wonder how many people would be okay with that. I just don't get it any more, its no longer about the wonder and amazement of gaming its just how much you can berate the next game and hype the next one after ad infinum.

 

Man sometimes I really hate this hobby.

Let me see if I can make how I feel about graphics/mechanics balance on an unreleased/un-played game a little more clear.

 

You know already about what the graphics in eather game looks like more or less; love, hate, indifferent easy to assign a value for either game.

all the great better than sliced bread save the world mechanics are great, however we don't know if they work well in synergy with game/players yet.  Little bit of guesswork on that one. 

I've heard a lot of dev/pub houses with help from marketing depts talk up a great game about mechanics only to get in game and see little more than epic fail.  Graphics are somewhat harder to mask, much easier to to at least make a basic valuation.

 

And why someone might go with a better looking game(to them) than one with somewhat better mechanics?  You gotta see  graphics all the time if they bug you enough personally best mechanics in the world won't help.  most mechanics are not in your face from the second you start the client till the moment you log off.  A mechanic that bug you is somewhat easier to ignore.

I personally never have experienced this. Graphics has always only played a role on if I try the game, not if I stick with it or not. If I am not fond of the graphics I can easily get passed it if the game is good. The issue is, if I am not fond of the graphics, I may never pick up the game in the first place if it doesn't show anything else i'm interested in.

I never understood why anyone would just judge a game at face value with out considering other factors.

  BMBender

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8/17/13 5:36:50 AM#159
Originally posted by Brabbit1987
Originally posted by BMBender
Originally posted by Graey
Originally posted by MindTrigger

You sound like a used car salesmen in a $50 suit.

The stylized graphics in EQNext allow for the constructable / destructable world, among other things.  I'll take those new features over the same ancient themepark crap from the likes of ESO any day.

I applaud you man, but you are talking to a brick wall. Not sure what is up with people but this whole EQ thing is being blown out of proportion. The OP is not listening to you, instead like a lot of people they are flaming the game and hyping another game which both are wrong btw since neither are out at the moment. I never see anyone whose views change actually come to this damn forum and type that they were wrong. This site isn't even used for discussion anymore but just gossip, and cantankerous moods over the tiniest of things.

 

How can you seriously be angry that they chose that graphics style OP, when you see all the other things that are being implemented as well...I mean seriously. If EQ did not change anything and just used say the graphics of Elder scrolls I wonder how many people would be okay with that. I just don't get it any more, its no longer about the wonder and amazement of gaming its just how much you can berate the next game and hype the next one after ad infinum.

 

Man sometimes I really hate this hobby.

Let me see if I can make how I feel about graphics/mechanics balance on an unreleased/un-played game a little more clear.

 

You know already about what the graphics in eather game looks like more or less; love, hate, indifferent easy to assign a value for either game.

all the great better than sliced bread save the world mechanics are great, however we don't know if they work well in synergy with game/players yet.  Little bit of guesswork on that one. 

I've heard a lot of dev/pub houses with help from marketing depts talk up a great game about mechanics only to get in game and see little more than epic fail.  Graphics are somewhat harder to mask, much easier to to at least make a basic valuation.

 

And why someone might go with a better looking game(to them) than one with somewhat better mechanics?  You gotta see  graphics all the time if they bug you enough personally best mechanics in the world won't help.  most mechanics are not in your face from the second you start the client till the moment you log off.  A mechanic that bug you is somewhat easier to ignore.

I personally never have experienced this. Graphics has always only played a role on if I try the game, not if I stick with it or not. If I am not fond of the graphics I can easily get passed it if the game is good. The issue is, if I am not fond of the graphics, I may never pick up the game in the first place if it doesn't show anything else i'm interested in.

I never understood why anyone would just judge a game at face value with out considering other factors.

I'm the exact opposite; ascetics are a make or break for me period.  I Never played more than 2 mo. WoW never touched SWTOR and won't be looking at EQN.   If I want to watch cartoons I'll get up early Saturday.  /shrugs different strokes.

  Brabbit1987

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8/17/13 5:38:22 AM#160
Originally posted by AwDiddums

Realistic graphics have a time and place where they truly suit a particular gaming spectrum, such as CoD, WoT, Tomb Raider series, Zombie horror genre, Historically accurate games, the list is long.

When I enter a Fantasy based MMO I'm not looking or even asking to see realistic graphics, I want vibrant colours, I want outlandish enviroment, I want to see ornate and over the top armour and weapons, and I want my character reace to look both beautiful and visually stunning in all ways possible, not some guy with a short back and sides who looks like my neighbour with the beer belly.

Fantasy games demand a fantasy approach, not something that you would find in a quick game of Modern Warfare.

 

Fantasy games are not required to be as such.

The fact is fantasy doesn't need to be colorful or visually stunning. If that is what you expect from ALL your fantasy games, then you are just being silly. 

I really do not think graphics ever played a major role on the fantasy genre, it had more to do with the setting. Don't forget, fantasy existed well before the wizard of oz just as an example.

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