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  Senden

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Joined: 6/16/05
Posts: 574

 
OP  8/16/13 2:20:23 AM#1
Took a little while off SWTOR and started getting back into it about a month ago to hold me over until FF14.  It's still as frustrating as ever with loading times that feel even longer than usual and patches to fix patches. For the last two-three weeks now they've had the servers down twice a week right slap bang in my playing times. The bounty contracts sounds like a fantastic addition but really, doesn't seem that all that much has changed in terms of what bugged be about the game before. 
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  BadOrb

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8/16/13 3:54:48 PM#2

You didn't like Makeb ? Did you like the new non-trinity flashpoints ? I don't really like the bounty hunter reputation rewards but i am doing them for the money and for fun. The new Cz-198 daily / weekly area are pretty cool and the reputation rewards seem very good.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing.
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  Heretique

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Most of my posts get deleted.

8/16/13 4:12:37 PM#3
Personally (IMO), the game is on auto pilot.

Originally posted by salsa41
are you have problem ?

  keithian

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8/17/13 2:43:55 AM#4
I'm not playing this game but I always find it odd all these issues people have with bugs and loading and such. I felt this game was one of the most polished at launch than almost all games before it. I must have some sort of magical computer, or some of you need to upgrade your stinky computers to something within the last 4-5 years.....or have one with a video card that is actually made for gaming. Get a Solid State Drive and stop being cheap if loading screens bother you.

There Is Always Hope!

  simplius

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8/17/13 5:37:01 AM#5

if it was our computers, then all games would run poorly, and they dont

its the swtor client,,if you have a computer, that fits,,you have a smooth ride

if you dont, then its game over

  TeknoBug

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8/17/13 8:15:11 AM#6


Originally posted by keithian
I'm not playing this game but I always find it odd all these issues people have with bugs and loading and such. I felt this game was one of the most polished at launch than almost all games before it. I must have some sort of magical computer, or some of you need to upgrade your stinky computers to something within the last 4-5 years.....or have one with a video card that is actually made for gaming. Get a Solid State Drive and stop being cheap if loading screens bother you.

It ran like SHIT at launch, had to turn down some graphics settings to not get constant stuttering but a couple months later they improved performance that you could crank up the graphics settings. However they couldn't fix Ilum which was a constant lagfest and arena pvp matches were often very laggy, and you couldn't be around anymore than 25 people if you were doing Belsavis dailies or on Tattooine fighting a world boss.

  Zinzan

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8/17/13 8:22:39 AM#7
Originally posted by TeknoBug

 


Originally posted by keithian
I'm not playing this game but I always find it odd all these issues people have with bugs and loading and such. I felt this game was one of the most polished at launch than almost all games before it. I must have some sort of magical computer, or some of you need to upgrade your stinky computers to something within the last 4-5 years.....or have one with a video card that is actually made for gaming. Get a Solid State Drive and stop being cheap if loading screens bother you.


It ran like SHIT at launch, had to turn down some graphics settings to not get constant stuttering but a couple months later they improved performance that you could crank up the graphics settings. However they couldn't fix Ilum which was a constant lagfest and arena pvp matches were often very laggy, and you couldn't be around anymore than 25 people if you were doing Belsavis dailies or on Tattooine fighting a world boss.

 

Ran fine for me on high settings (never experienced stuttering, not once) 60+ FPS most of the time if i switched to best performance and i only have an average spec, but then I don't use AMD and i always run tested drivers.

Some people claimed poor performance, but then there is always someone playing on a ZX81who wants 1000 FPS ;)

Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy :)

  Myria

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Joined: 5/07/09
Posts: 484

8/17/13 8:34:09 AM#8
Originally posted by Zinzan

Ran fine for me on high settings (never experienced stuttering, not once) 60+ FPS most of the time if i switched to best performance and i only have an average spec, but then I don't use AMD and i always run tested drivers.

Same, albeit I do run AMD -- vid cards, anyway, it's sadly been a long time since there was an AMD APU worth having.

 

Anyway, didn't matter if I was in fleet, a flashpoint, raid, whatever, never saw any hitching or other issues. Load times were annoying, to be sure, but otherwise from a technical standpoint the game, for me and those in my guild, was as solid as they come.

 

Wish the gameplay had been better, but from a technical point-of-view I think the issue is far more a few people having problems -- as happens with pretty much every game -- being amplified to "EVERYONE HAS PROBLEMS!!!1!!!" as a matter of faith with the gaming herd.

  Frostvein

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8/17/13 11:47:26 AM#9
Originally posted by keithian
I'm not playing this game but I always find it odd all these issues people have with bugs and loading and such. I felt this game was one of the most polished at launch than almost all games before it. I must have some sort of magical computer, or some of you need to upgrade your stinky computers to something within the last 4-5 years.....or have one with a video card that is actually made for gaming. Get a Solid State Drive and stop being cheap if loading screens bother you.

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I7 16 GB RAM (2 8 gig Sticks) on an SSD with a 780, and I was getting 20 FPS on fleet, 20-30 in WZs. only ever hit 60 if I was alone on a planet.  I get 70+ in every new gen MMO on the market, 100+ in Skyrim, BF, etc.

 

But yea, its my PC.

 

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  simplius

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Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 978

8/18/13 12:59:50 AM#10
Originally posted by TeknoBug

 


Originally posted by keithian
I'm not playing this game but I always find it odd all these issues people have with bugs and loading and such. I felt this game was one of the most polished at launch than almost all games before it. I must have some sort of magical computer, or some of you need to upgrade your stinky computers to something within the last 4-5 years.....or have one with a video card that is actually made for gaming. Get a Solid State Drive and stop being cheap if loading screens bother you.


It ran like SHIT at launch, had to turn down some graphics settings to not get constant stuttering but a couple months later they improved performance that you could crank up the graphics settings. However they couldn't fix Ilum which was a constant lagfest and arena pvp matches were often very laggy, and you couldn't be around anymore than 25 people if you were doing Belsavis dailies or on Tattooine fighting a world boss.

 

weird,,my experience is the opposite

launch was okay

1.3 made it almost unplayable

1.4 made it into a slide show

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

8/19/13 12:12:02 AM#11

I wish this game was doing better.   Not significant discussion on the official forum either .. crickets, outside of the usual "What armor color do you like best" type trashy posts.

 

I guess to your answer, What Changed?  Oh in 2 years, SWTOR added many new items in the cashshop, top level Space Combat gear ... pretty much everything pay-to-skip-content, without being called pay-to-win.... oh and did I mention the cashshop, where you can buy one-of-a-kind emotes and instruments / pets and cool mounts?  SWTOR also added a new warzone, but first lets talk about the cash-shop. .. there was some new flashpoints too.

 

But mentioning the cash-shop is more important.  Why worry about playing the game to excess?  Just unlock those legacies with some real money.  Unlocking for 10 bucks here and 10 bucks there is so much more fun than actually playing.

 

So, OP I guess that is the changes for you .. you used to see an active forum . .. then again I also used to be a proud owner of a collectors box, before they were liquidated at WalMart / Target  / KMart (now they became worthless on EBay.)

 

My fault, sorry for the negativity.  SWTOR still has the SSSP Coming Soon (tm). !! And Pazaak / Sabaac!

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  simplius

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Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 978

8/19/13 7:24:40 AM#12

yea, their forums have become very quiet..did they tighten moderation?

or is andryah flogging the rest of their customers to the gate right now?

the plot is thickening, dont miss next episode in this exciting saga of love and betrayal

they should make a sitcom about this

  Drelkag

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Joined: 7/12/13
Posts: 54

8/19/13 9:11:31 PM#13
Originally posted by Frostvein
Originally posted by keithian
I'm not playing this game but I always find it odd all these issues people have with bugs and loading and such. I felt this game was one of the most polished at launch than almost all games before it. I must have some sort of magical computer, or some of you need to upgrade your stinky computers to something within the last 4-5 years.....or have one with a video card that is actually made for gaming. Get a Solid State Drive and stop being cheap if loading screens bother you.

[mod edit]

 

I7 16 GB RAM (2 8 gig Sticks) on an SSD with a 780, and I was getting 20 FPS on fleet, 20-30 in WZs. only ever hit 60 if I was alone on a planet.  I get 70+ in every new gen MMO on the market, 100+ in Skyrim, BF, etc.

 

But yea, its my PC.

 

[mod edit]

[mod edit]

It runs pretty well for me. ~50 FPS on mostly max settings with my 6870/Phenom II X4 BE/8GB DDR3 RAM.

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  simplius

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Posts: 978

8/20/13 12:19:15 AM#14

you forgot to write your adress

how can we all come, and play on your fine computer , without it?

until then,,they sold a product with poor performance

if you wanna bite the bullets, meant for them, go ahead

  TeknoBug

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Posts: 2164

8/22/13 9:23:20 AM#15


Originally posted by simplius

they should make a sitcom about this



The Big Bang Theory did an episode of everyone playing SWTOR back in winter 2012, a bland episode but it was almost all about that game as if EA paid them to write that particular epsiode.


Here it is:
http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/The_Weekend_Vortex

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

8/22/13 12:42:09 PM#16
Originally posted by TeknoBug

 


Originally posted by simplius

 

they should make a sitcom about this



The Big Bang Theory did an episode of everyone playing SWTOR back in winter 2012, a bland episode but it was almost all about that game as if EA paid them to write that particular epsiode.

 


Here it is:
http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/The_Weekend_Vortex

There is also the SWTOR Big Bang clip(s) on various YouTube places, like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHT51XxPqNQ

 

I couldn't stomach watching the whole episode, as the humor wasn't really my style either.  It seemed EA was going for the Clone Wars crowd, not necessarily the 30-40-50+ something crowd who watched in awe at the original Star Wars trilogy.

 

The Time Square freeze promo was perhaps more interesting, although not a sitcom of course.. That was a paid-for promo on the front page of YouTube on release day, taking up most of the screen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wjf_lWxqyI

 

Advertising was pretty high, since SWTOR was supposed to rival WoW as the next billion-dollar-a-year MMORPG. (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/306437/bioware-old-republic-will-more-than-compete-with-world-of-warcraft/)

(http://www.vg247.com/2008/10/24/wow-is-the-target-with-the-old-republic-says-lucasarts-and-ea/)

 

On-topic, the amazing part was how SWTOR spent most of the next year+ trying to fix the game and make it playable, then firing staff left and right (saving money), ensuring that content would be extremely small and slow, and very little would "change".  Someone on the official forums not too long ago said there was only 1 person working on the SSSP, which may actually be fairly close to reality.

 

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  simplius

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8/23/13 1:09:24 AM#17

thanx, i dropped this show after the first couple of seasons

product placement?...check

did it Work? (sarcasm)

i guess, thats why, they went for their venture with aeria games

 

 

  ZigZags

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8/25/13 3:28:51 AM#18
Im sure it runs great on people's machines now....Why wouldnt it? The game has about 10% of the people playing today that were playing at launch. With such a large population drop, you can expect better performance.

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  TheCrow2k

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8/25/13 3:35:16 AM#19
Originally posted by Heretique
Personally (IMO), the game is on auto pilot.

 

^QFT

That is the main problem with the game & the one thing that will not change.

  Matticus75

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8/25/13 3:59:29 AM#20

The market is putting all its money in mobile and tablet gaming, with micro transactions, thanks Farmville!!

But really the industry has become institutionalized, someone with a lot of money (investors) put money up front, they want guarantees you see, so lets look at the data

And looking at any data is what kills serendipity and originality, its risky, but investors don't like risk. When you look at just the data, then the creativity process is reduced to a mathematical formula that is only capable of churning out predictable products of mediocrity with at best slight variations of the same old thing. (aka WoW clones)

The days of pushing the limits of PC processing to the limit in terms of Graphics, AI improvement, advanced and new game mechanics and seemless integration of multiple genres is going to be out the door for a long time im afraid.

Smaller gaming companies seem to do best, not giant corps like EA. But when we see a successful mid size gaming company do well, it gets gobbled by the big fishes and then gets liquidated, (Bioware :( )

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