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General Discussion  » Your test... Go slay squirrels!

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  Agnostic42

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OP  8/16/13 1:49:04 PM#1

I'm in the open beta, make my character and hit the opening town. My first mission, discover several places around town. Ok, after several scenes that seem to tug at my FFVII strings like the stained glass combined with music, I move my merry behind toward the archers guild. Is this seriously what the quests are like in this game? Does it get better?

 

Dialogue of missions? Summarized....

"Do you wish to become a member of the archers guild." Yes...

"You are not yet a member of the archers guild." Continue...

"You may become a member of the archers guild." Cool, continue... complete quest.

Oh, she starts another quest....

"You may become a member of the archers guild." Cool, continue...

"Do you wish to become a member of the archers guild?" Yes, click accept...

Yay, a member.. complete quest. Oh, the lady behind her has a quest...

"You are not yet a member of the archers guild!" Huh? but but, she just...

"Do you wish to become a member of the archers guild?" sigh, OK, yes.

"You must follow the way of the archer." OK, I already told the other lady I did.

"Do you wish to follow the way of the archer?" Click yes, cool I'm a member...

"You are not yet a member of the archers guild!" WTF!

"You must pass a test that will challenge you and make you a member, are you ready to prove yourself?"

Cool, finally some action. YES!

"Good, go slay squirrels!"

  GeezerGamer

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8/16/13 2:06:14 PM#2
Originally posted by agnostic4eve

I'm in the open beta, make my character and hit the opening town. My first mission, discover several places around town. Ok, after several scenes that seem to tug at my FFVII strings like the stained glass combined with music, I move my merry behind toward the archers guild. Is this seriously what the quests are like in this game? Does it get better?

 

Dialogue of missions? Summarized....

"Do you wish to become a member of the archers guild." Yes...

"You are not yet a member of the archers guild." Continue...

"You may become a member of the archers guild." Cool, continue... complete quest.

Oh, she starts another quest....

"You may become a member of the archers guild." Cool, continue...

"Do you wish to become a member of the archers guild?" Yes, click accept...

Yay, a member.. complete quest. Oh, the lady behind her has a quest...

"You are not yet a member of the archers guild!" Huh? but but, she just...

"Do you wish to become a member of the archers guild?" sigh, OK, yes.

"You must follow the way of the archer." OK, I already told the other lady I did.

"Do you wish to follow the way of the archer?" Click yes, cool I'm a member...

"You are not yet a member of the archers guild!" WTF!

"You must pass a test that will challenge you and make you a member, are you ready to prove yourself?"

Cool, finally some action. YES!

"Good, go slay squirrels!"

Why does this surprise you?

All MMOs I have ever played have their version of the anti-epic quests. Especially in the starter areas.

 

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Starskins

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8/16/13 2:06:24 PM#3
No, at the beginning of level 20, it's spiders.
  arunasme

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8/16/13 2:09:39 PM#4
Same old mmo, new skin pack. Hype train will go down very soon.
  Agnostic42

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OP  8/16/13 2:10:47 PM#5
Don't get me wrong, I'm honestly giving this game a try and approaching it with a very open mind. It however is hard to maintain that perspective when Boiselont of the Lancer's guild is also having a squirrel problem.
  Purutzil

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8/16/13 2:11:55 PM#6

Eh its pretty much that, though if you can find a game not like that, feel free to give a shout. All games involve it in some way, hell, GW2 which preached it being different is EXACTLY that, just changed slightly in how its 'shown/done'. 

 

I will say though they should of made the 'start' quests with the classes different rather then the same thing, after that though they change up and vary a lot more. It does push story in a bit more as well, which in case of the game it does a good job.

  Kyleran

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8/16/13 2:13:54 PM#7
Originally posted by Starskins
No, at the beginning of level 20, it's spiders.

+ 1, answer is pure win

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  Tygranir

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8/16/13 2:16:30 PM#8

It's the same MMO again. Seriously.

Just like WoW:

Look! I'm in Elwynn forest... killing boars

 

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  Roguewiz

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8/16/13 2:16:45 PM#9
The only thing(s) FFXIV has going for it is the Job System and the Crafting.  Everything else is a rehash of what has been done before.  Its a good distraction until the next "WoW killer" comes out.

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  Alberel

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8/16/13 2:17:14 PM#10

The low level content is mostly aimed at non-MMO gamers. Yes it is easy for experienced MMO players but that's pretty much the norm for the genre. Killing small, weak looking mobs at low-level is normal. If you were killing dragons and stuff at level 1 you would lose the sense of power progression you get through gaining levels as you would always be killing 'tough' mobs.

The 'kill x of y' quests also thin out as you get higher... and eventually you'll run out entirely and have to find alternative methods to level your other classes/jobs.

I really don't see the issue here. Any game that has tried to do this differently has done it worse...

  Distopia

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8/16/13 2:22:21 PM#11
Originally posted by Alberel

The low level content is mostly aimed at non-MMO gamers. Yes it is easy for experienced MMO players but that's pretty much the norm for the genre. Killing small, weak looking mobs at low-level is normal. If you were killing dragons and stuff at level 1 you would lose the sense of power progression you get through gaining levels as you would always be killing 'tough' mobs.

The 'kill x of y' quests also thin out as you get higher... and eventually you'll run out entirely and have to find alternative methods to level your other classes/jobs.

I really don't see the issue here. Any game that has tried to do this differently has done it worse...

Wait, what? you might have to go into a bit of detail there, I've seen plenty of starter areas that had more productive as well as exciting content.

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  saiweed

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8/16/13 2:22:38 PM#12
I DONT SEE THE PROBLEM, if you kill dragons from the start, what will you kill at the end? a DRAAGOOON DRAAAGOOOON , king dragon dragon GOD it makes no sense,  ofcourse you start of hunting bullshit animals , you are  a NOOB you just begun  lol god wtf do you people even know what u want 
  Agnostic42

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OP  8/16/13 2:25:16 PM#13
Originally posted by Strayfe
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That's not really the point. I'm trying to approach the game in it's own merits, not judge it against anything else. And yes, I find GW2's noob areas lame as well.

 

Another question.... When can I stop delivering pies and actually, you know, slay those dreadful squirrels of doom?

  Roguewiz

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8/16/13 2:26:31 PM#14

I'd be more worried about a snake.  They kick. :)

 

Seriously though, who cares what you kill early on.  No matter what game it is, you're killing something that really isn't "heroic" or fulfilling early on.

Get used to it in FFXIV.  I made it to 30 in closed beta.  I didn't really see too much variation.

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  Strayfe

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8/16/13 2:28:17 PM#15
There's absolutely nothing requiring you to level up by questing.  You're free to run outside and start beating on anything you want at anytime.  I actually found grinding to be faster in Beta 3, and besides, when you do a quest once, it's done.  After your first 1-2 times through an area leveling a new job, there won't be any more quests, and you'll need to grind, group, do FATEs, or other stuff to level.
  Distopia

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8/16/13 2:28:44 PM#16
Originally posted by Roguewiz

I'd be more worried about a snake.  They kick. :)

 

Seriously though, who cares what you kill early on.  No matter what game it is, you're killing something that really isn't "heroic" or fulfilling early on.

Get used to it in FFXIV.  I made it to 30 in closed beta.  I didn't really see too much variation.

I don't think the complaint was solely about what he had to kill, but also the way in which it was delivered.

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  GlacianNex

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8/16/13 2:29:26 PM#17

Have you ever actually tried to kill a squirrel? It is a lot harder than it seems especailly if you are trying to get to them with a melee weapon. I mean by the time you will chase one down, and hit the damn thing it is quite a workout. 

Some chop wood, some kill squirrels... you know whatever works!

  Agnostic42

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OP  8/16/13 2:31:00 PM#18
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Roguewiz

I'd be more worried about a snake.  They kick. :)

 

Seriously though, who cares what you kill early on.  No matter what game it is, you're killing something that really isn't "heroic" or fulfilling early on.

Get used to it in FFXIV.  I made it to 30 in closed beta.  I didn't really see too much variation.

I don't think the complaint was solely about what he had to kill, but also the way in which it was delivered.

Yes, it was rather silly. Jumping through a bunch of needless hoops was annoying enough to make even my 7 year old start to laugh.

  Asm0deus

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8/16/13 2:31:33 PM#19
It's a FF game why would you expect NOT to have quests?

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8/16/13 2:31:45 PM#20

This type of quest is very much a jrpg style intro activity.  You start out local and rustic and progress to epic and grand.  It is a design trait of FF designers and you can see it in other FF games and other games those early FF guys designed, like Chrono Cross.  That sort of quest is stylistically consistent.

The game has billed itself as very traditional, so what do you expect? You are getting traditional quests.

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