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  RedMachine72

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Joined: 5/18/10
Posts: 82

8/14/13 12:04:32 AM#21

  Wow was a fluke. Released at just the right time on the heels of Warcraft III and was swept up in a rush of people wanting to play in the Warcraft III world openly. It was a great game to begin with, then the expansions started. BC was good, gave the game a little bit more. Then Lich King hit and it started downhill with Activision buying up Blizzard about 6 months before. Things started to be rushed out the door then. LK was going to be delayed before Activision stepped in and said it was going to release, with or without everything that was supposed to be in it. I still play it and I do enjoy it somewhat. I just wish they had not made it "faceroll for the win" to attract new players, it was already casual enough.

  Not sure if I would play Titan, even without any info on it. Every FTP game I have been in holds my interest for about 2-3 months, just until it gets frustrating because you have to be nickled and dimed to death to play like it should with a sub.

 

  Mathadar

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Joined: 12/10/05
Posts: 24

8/14/13 12:13:56 AM#22
The article also states that Blizzard is pulling people off the Titan project to work on other titles that will release shortly.
  Ridelynn

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Joined: 12/19/10
Posts: 3949

8/14/13 2:40:53 AM#23
Originally posted by Anubisan

At this point I wonder if the game actually even exists...

It has been years now and Blizzard has not released ANY concrete information at all. By the time they actually finish this game, no one may even care.

This is Blizzard you are talking about. Since when are they ever in a hurry to release ~anything~.

How long did it take for SC2? D3?

I wouldn't hold my breath on Titan, and I think a "2-3 year" release date as estimated by anyone, including an internal Blizzard source, is smoking something good. I would say we'd be lucky to see released in 5 years, and would not be shocked if it's not until 2020 or later, and be totally serious about that.

  Incomparable

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Joined: 3/11/11
Posts: 859

8/14/13 2:48:30 AM#24

Maybe Titan was a fake project by blizzard devs to steal WoW money. To put more in thier pocket becuase they 'deserve' it.

Strange that they would scrap something that so far does not exist... and all of a sudden with certain eyes watchings... its a smaller project that is f2p.

Assuming its smaller since f2p means it will take longer to pay back the original investment. So why call it Titan?

“Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble”

  daltanious

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Joined: 4/19/08
Posts: 2056

8/14/13 4:32:39 AM#25
Snif, somehow at start when first time heard I was hoping Titan will be kind of Wow 2. I'm not interested in anything else. Just hope they will continue to develop and support Wow. They  have dumbed down to much for my taste, but on the other hand have implemented many improvements that I'm stil happy. Other problem is ... when you play for so long ANY game I wonder how this influenced wish to continue to play. As known :-) my new best game ever is for some time SWTOR, but Wow is still close. Other factor to consider is now (compared even to maybe 3 years back) there are many choices, some at least acceptable.
  Ozmodan

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Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 7066

8/14/13 10:04:49 AM#26

I suggest you wait for an actual game announcement before speculating on how the game will be funded.  My bet will be there will be a sub option.   The big AAA titles have been successful with their f2p implementations having that sub option around because a lot of players use it.

 

  Dexter2010

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Joined: 7/15/12
Posts: 242

8/14/13 12:44:13 PM#27
Originally posted by LordSneerg
Titan will flop. Blizzard was lucky to launch wow when it did. Wow was good during the start but became gradually worse as time went on. I don't have faith in blizzard... I truly believe they have no clue on what the gamer community wants. 

I have been alienated by Blizzard and have also lost faith in them. Between D3's RMAH and WoW's sub + cs, I'm staying far away from further projects.

Why get excited about something non-existent? For years, Bliz released minimal about Titan and in actuality, we knew nothing about it except there may not be a sub for this piece of vaporware. Titan having fallen so far from grace, Bliz had to scrap everything; but what was there to actually scrap? It won't be completed for ages since devs are funneled off to other projects. Titan is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword with unwarranted mystique tossed around to maintain Bliz's popularity. With their philosophy, I wonder if they are indeed crafting a profitable game, or a money making scheme with graphics getting in the way.

  bbbb42

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Joined: 10/16/12
Posts: 307

8/14/13 1:19:27 PM#28
f2p blizz game  = not possible, blizz loves to nickle and dime everything it possibly can

  GrayKodiak

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Joined: 11/15/12
Posts: 576

8/14/13 1:27:49 PM#29

I think blizzard is in the same boat Cannon is, anything great they put out will cannabilize the strong market dominance they hold already.

Even with its subscription numbers falling it still has more subscriber than the next few mmo's combined, and they are subscribers paying money not just "players" but actual dollars flowing into the company. The same can not be said for the 3 million GW2 or other B2P and F2P numbers we see, they may or may not be putting money in.

Cannon, can't put out an amazing mirrorless camera without hurting its amazing already existing market, and whenever Titan rolls out that will be the day Blizzard is competing with itself.

  doodphace

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Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 1859

8/14/13 1:34:32 PM#30
Originally posted by Dexter2010
Originally posted by LordSneerg
Titan will flop. Blizzard was lucky to launch wow when it did. Wow was good during the start but became gradually worse as time went on. I don't have faith in blizzard... I truly believe they have no clue on what the gamer community wants. 

I have been alienated by Blizzard and have also lost faith in them. Between D3's RMAH and WoW's sub + cs, I'm staying far away from further projects.

Why get excited about something non-existent? For years, Bliz released minimal about Titan and in actuality, we knew nothing about it except there may not be a sub for this piece of vaporware. Titan having fallen so far from grace, Bliz had to scrap everything; but what was there to actually scrap? It won't be completed for ages since devs are funneled off to other projects. Titan is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword with unwarranted mystique tossed around to maintain Bliz's popularity. With their philosophy, I wonder if they are indeed crafting a profitable game, or a money making scheme with graphics getting in the way.

I didn't realise you were in Asia...seeing as the "CS" items are only available to Asian players, who dont pay traditional subs anyway, so please help me understand your concern....you know, with you being from the US and all..

I love the mmorpg.com forums ;)

  Dexter2010

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Joined: 7/15/12
Posts: 242

8/14/13 2:00:12 PM#31
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Dexter2010
Originally posted by LordSneerg
Titan will flop. Blizzard was lucky to launch wow when it did. Wow was good during the start but became gradually worse as time went on. I don't have faith in blizzard... I truly believe they have no clue on what the gamer community wants. 

I have been alienated by Blizzard and have also lost faith in them. Between D3's RMAH and WoW's sub + cs, I'm staying far away from further projects.

Why get excited about something non-existent? For years, Bliz released minimal about Titan and in actuality, we knew nothing about it except there may not be a sub for this piece of vaporware. Titan having fallen so far from grace, Bliz had to scrap everything; but what was there to actually scrap? It won't be completed for ages since devs are funneled off to other projects. Titan is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword with unwarranted mystique tossed around to maintain Bliz's popularity. With their philosophy, I wonder if they are indeed crafting a profitable game, or a money making scheme with graphics getting in the way.

I didn't realise you were in Asia...seeing as the "CS" items are only available to Asian players, who dont pay traditional subs anyway, so please help me understand your concern....you know, with you being from the US and all..

I love the mmorpg.com forums ;)

I'm not in Asia. I'm not talking about xp pots, I'm referring to mounts and super powerful CS companions (ie. p2w pokemon). At one point in time, the sub fee granted full access to the game; rather than some mounts, some pets, some costumes..........

Bliz had also planned at one point, to charge a separate sub for playing with your friends cross realms. Box/xpak prices, CS, sub, realm xfer (and misc) fees invite costomers to become resentful.

  doodphace

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Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 1859

8/14/13 2:27:06 PM#32
Originally posted by Dexter2010
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Dexter2010
Originally posted by LordSneerg
Titan will flop. Blizzard was lucky to launch wow when it did. Wow was good during the start but became gradually worse as time went on. I don't have faith in blizzard... I truly believe they have no clue on what the gamer community wants. 

I have been alienated by Blizzard and have also lost faith in them. Between D3's RMAH and WoW's sub + cs, I'm staying far away from further projects.

Why get excited about something non-existent? For years, Bliz released minimal about Titan and in actuality, we knew nothing about it except there may not be a sub for this piece of vaporware. Titan having fallen so far from grace, Bliz had to scrap everything; but what was there to actually scrap? It won't be completed for ages since devs are funneled off to other projects. Titan is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword with unwarranted mystique tossed around to maintain Bliz's popularity. With their philosophy, I wonder if they are indeed crafting a profitable game, or a money making scheme with graphics getting in the way.

I didn't realise you were in Asia...seeing as the "CS" items are only available to Asian players, who dont pay traditional subs anyway, so please help me understand your concern....you know, with you being from the US and all..

I love the mmorpg.com forums ;)

I'm not in Asia. I'm not talking about xp pots, I'm referring to mounts and super powerful CS companions (ie. p2w pokemon). At one point in time, the sub fee granted full access to the game; rather than some mounts, some pets, some costumes..........

Bliz had also planned at one point, to charge a separate sub for playing with your friends cross realms. Box/xpak prices, CS, sub, realm xfer (and misc) fees invite costomers to become resentful.

There is no pet on their battle.net store that is stronger than other in game pets...

And why are u bringing up stuff that was never implemented?

  Dexter2010

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Joined: 7/15/12
Posts: 242

8/14/13 2:59:18 PM#33
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Dexter2010
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Dexter2010
Originally posted by LordSneerg
Titan will flop. Blizzard was lucky to launch wow when it did. Wow was good during the start but became gradually worse as time went on. I don't have faith in blizzard... I truly believe they have no clue on what the gamer community wants. 

I have been alienated by Blizzard and have also lost faith in them. Between D3's RMAH and WoW's sub + cs, I'm staying far away from further projects.

Why get excited about something non-existent? For years, Bliz released minimal about Titan and in actuality, we knew nothing about it except there may not be a sub for this piece of vaporware. Titan having fallen so far from grace, Bliz had to scrap everything; but what was there to actually scrap? It won't be completed for ages since devs are funneled off to other projects. Titan is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword with unwarranted mystique tossed around to maintain Bliz's popularity. With their philosophy, I wonder if they are indeed crafting a profitable game, or a money making scheme with graphics getting in the way.

I didn't realise you were in Asia...seeing as the "CS" items are only available to Asian players, who dont pay traditional subs anyway, so please help me understand your concern....you know, with you being from the US and all..

I love the mmorpg.com forums ;)

I'm not in Asia. I'm not talking about xp pots, I'm referring to mounts and super powerful CS companions (ie. p2w pokemon). At one point in time, the sub fee granted full access to the game; rather than some mounts, some pets, some costumes..........

Bliz had also planned at one point, to charge a separate sub for playing with your friends cross realms. Box/xpak prices, CS, sub, realm xfer (and misc) fees invite costomers to become resentful.

There is no pet on their battle.net store that is stronger than other in game pets...

Yes, there are, go resub WoW.

And why are u bringing up stuff that was never implemented?

I was discussing being nickled and dimed; this is one example and I suspect Titan will be no different. Don't bother responding to this; you appear to be a Bliz fanboi or dev who is not interested in conversing with reason, and I will no further entertain a discussion with someone who is disgruntled and on the offensive from the get go.

 

 

  doodphace

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Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 1859

8/14/13 3:13:35 PM#34
Originally posted by Dexter2010
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Dexter2010
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Dexter2010
Originally posted by LordSneerg
Titan will flop. Blizzard was lucky to launch wow when it did. Wow was good during the start but became gradually worse as time went on. I don't have faith in blizzard... I truly believe they have no clue on what the gamer community wants. 

I have been alienated by Blizzard and have also lost faith in them. Between D3's RMAH and WoW's sub + cs, I'm staying far away from further projects.

Why get excited about something non-existent? For years, Bliz released minimal about Titan and in actuality, we knew nothing about it except there may not be a sub for this piece of vaporware. Titan having fallen so far from grace, Bliz had to scrap everything; but what was there to actually scrap? It won't be completed for ages since devs are funneled off to other projects. Titan is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword with unwarranted mystique tossed around to maintain Bliz's popularity. With their philosophy, I wonder if they are indeed crafting a profitable game, or a money making scheme with graphics getting in the way.

I didn't realise you were in Asia...seeing as the "CS" items are only available to Asian players, who dont pay traditional subs anyway, so please help me understand your concern....you know, with you being from the US and all..

I love the mmorpg.com forums ;)

I'm not in Asia. I'm not talking about xp pots, I'm referring to mounts and super powerful CS companions (ie. p2w pokemon). At one point in time, the sub fee granted full access to the game; rather than some mounts, some pets, some costumes..........

Bliz had also planned at one point, to charge a separate sub for playing with your friends cross realms. Box/xpak prices, CS, sub, realm xfer (and misc) fees invite costomers to become resentful.

There is no pet on their battle.net store that is stronger than other in game pets...

Yes, there are, go resub WoW.

And why are u bringing up stuff that was never implemented?

I was discussing being nickled and dimed; this is one example and I suspect Titan will be no different. Don't bother responding to this; you appear to be a Bliz fanboi or dev who is not interested in conversing with reason, and I will no further entertain a discussion with someone who is disgruntled and on the offensive from the get go.

 

 

If you are sitting here being firm in your belief of there being stronger pets on the battle.net store than what you can get in game, we have nothing more to discuss...[mod edit]

http://www.warcraftpets.com/wow-pets/best/

Out of the top 20 for health, none are pet store pets

Out of the top 20 for power, only 1 is a pet store pet, and though that 1 is high in power, its vastly lower in heal and speed.

Out of the top 20 for speed, non are pet store pets.

So out of the 60 top rated battle pets in wow, only 1 can be purchased from the pet store....

[mod edit]
  Blitzwolfe

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8/14/13 8:03:42 PM#35

Blizzard in my opinion screwed up tuning WoW for the Generation Me crowd.  In my opinion WoW has been on the downslide since the Pre-Cataclysm patch, and I haven't looked back since.

 

Diablo 3 was what I expected and was a fair successor to the franchise.  But the associated real-money auction house tanked the game.  It trivialized what Diablo should be.  Why go quest for phat lewtz and levels (the only other point of the game beyond the story) when you can just buy them.  Blizzard kicked themselves in the nuts with that move, and whomever supported the D3 auction house should be fired.

 

Now "TITAN" (formerly the suspected Starcraft MMO) has, as far as the public is concerned, sat in a closet and done nothing since it was first hinted at or leaked.  Either Blizzard has it's security issues in check or Titan is sitting in a closet while the company floats on it's sea of money.

 

I don't think it's fair to say Blizzard is waiting to see what EverQuest Next will be so they can copy it.  Even after the big reveal, I'm not sold on EQN though I am curious.  I think a lot of what EQN is trying to do is at the forefront of MMO development, but if they fall on their face in the process EQN won't be worth copying.

 

I think Blizzard is smart enough not to need a game to copy.

 
  aRtFuLThinG

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Joined: 4/30/09
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8/14/13 11:01:19 PM#36
Originally posted by spawn12345
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Affordable
Blizzard is not the same company it was 10 years ago. SC2 and D3 are dreadful, and wow...is a joke.

 

Completely disagree. D3, in it's current state, is awesome. But if you like skipping awesome games...carry on.

there is no sane person that thinks d3 is an awesome game.... maybe if you like stock market trading and find it fun then yeah d3 is for you

Stock market trading is fun because making money is fun for a lot of people, because, ya know, money can be used to exchange for goods and services?

 

I guess making money isn't fun for some who aren't making money, lol.

 
  TheCrow2k

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Posts: 957

8/15/13 1:41:03 AM#37
I suspect this will be the star raft universe online with a buy to play + cash shop model.

Considering how little Activision has on the books now I don't think they can afford a 100% F2P title.
  mizrolist

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8/15/13 2:28:18 AM#38
Originally posted by bbbb42
f2p blizz game  = not possible, blizz loves to nickle and dime everything it possibly can

Have you ever heard about Hearthstone?

Signatures are boring things.

  User Deleted
8/15/13 7:27:52 AM#39
Originally posted by bbbb42
f2p blizz game  = not possible, blizz loves to nickle and dime everything it possibly can

Isn't that what F2P games do?

  User Deleted
8/15/13 7:31:59 AM#40
Originally posted by doodphace

If you are sitting here being firm in your belief of there being stronger pets on the battle.net store than what you can get in game, we have nothing more to discuss...[mod edit]

http://www.warcraftpets.com/wow-pets/best/

Out of the top 20 for health, none are pet store pets

Out of the top 20 for power, only 1 is a pet store pet, and though that 1 is high in power, its vastly lower in heal and speed.

Out of the top 20 for speed, non are pet store pets.

So out of the 60 top rated battle pets in wow, only 1 can be purchased from the pet store....

[mod edit]
 

Ok, now you're just spitting out facts and as we all know, facts have no place in MMORPG.com forum threads.

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