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General Discussion  » Cover art: Sexist and lack of talent?

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  Lidane

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8/13/13 11:35:59 AM#21
Originally posted by Karble

It looks like the point of this art was to show off changes in the game from EQ to EQ next. You can see the armors, multi-classing, seemingly different player avatar choices, art style changes. All of this is subtly telegraphed in the drawing.

That seems to be the case, yeah. It looks like an homage to the original Keith Parkinson art, but meant to show that this EQ is different from the ones that have come before it. 

I don't mind it too much. The only thing that's jarring to me is the placement of Firiona's bow. How the hell is she supposed to fire that?

  aesperus

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8/13/13 11:38:27 AM#22

Bad art? Yes. It looks dated as hell.

Sexism has nothing to do with it. If you are drawing sexist undertones from that image OP, it might be time to relax (maybe smoke a bowl or grab a glass of whine) and stop looking for things to get mad about. It's a beautiful day in most parts of the world, I'm sure there's a lot better things to do today than get mad at a crappy picture.

  rojoArcueid

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8/13/13 11:39:20 AM#23

The EQN cover art is CLEARLY a tribute image to the origianl art from EQ1.

A tribute, not a copy. Of course its going to look different, but similar enough to notice its a tribute. Jeez OP......Jeez.

  Shubawkss

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8/13/13 11:40:17 AM#24
Male sexism because he's behind ladies? Oh please. I'm a Male myself, but that is the dumbest argument I've ever heard regarding sexism. 
  Tibbz

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"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a group"

8/13/13 11:46:10 AM#25
Not a single "F" was given in this thread 

  User Deleted
8/13/13 11:46:11 AM#26
I don't agree with something so subjective like art being torn apart. If I could do better, I'd show it. 
  Amylion

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OP  8/13/13 11:52:53 AM#27
Originally posted by Ryowulf

This thread was made as a joke right?

It was pretty funny to claim sexism against males when the female in red has almost nothing on.

The art work is fine.  What would be the point of it being super realistic when the game is cartoony?

No, it's not a joke. In my eyes this painting is made by an artist focusing on women and neglecting the male aspect of reality.

You are right that showing off female skin is another sexism in this picture.

But that doesn't negate the lack of a positive depiction of maleness. Well, the whole thing is made out of stereotypes, probably not much to expect there, but to me it gives the impression of a world where males don't matter, and I wouldn't be surprised if the artist actually would think this way...

Others just shoot the zombies which are chasing us. Whereas I try to talk to them.

If the brainless realized that it is dead, maybe, just maybe, it would lay itself down to rest...

  Telondariel

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8/13/13 11:55:26 AM#28
Originally posted by Amylion
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I think you are really stretching here.

  Amylion

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OP  8/13/13 11:57:16 AM#29
Originally posted by Normike
Well it's a video game and they are catering to their audience (mostly male).
Rosie Rappaport ‏<span js-action-profile-name"="">@Rosierap

"Nearly half of all video-gamers are women"

https://twitter.com/Rosierap/status/366043735596867585

Links to: http://us.cnn.com/2013/08/08/tech/gaming-gadgets/female-gamers/index.html?sr=sharebar_twitter

Others just shoot the zombies which are chasing us. Whereas I try to talk to them.

If the brainless realized that it is dead, maybe, just maybe, it would lay itself down to rest...

  Effin_Rabbit

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This Rabbit stinks!

8/13/13 12:00:54 PM#30
If you dont like it, ignore it. Thats what grown folks do.
  Loktofeit

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8/13/13 12:01:15 PM#31
Originally posted by thinlizzy

Its bad in many ways

Bad comp, no emotion and BORING AS %$#@

however I do wish people would get over issues of sexism ffs

ooo 1 of them but 3 of those OMG stop the presses... damn PC rubish

+1

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  Amylion

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OP  8/13/13 12:01:26 PM#32
Originally posted by donpopuki
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

There's no Devinci code deeper meaning here. Maybe some of the artist's subconscious leanings and cultural filter but no secret motive.

Oh, you are right, I think it's a subconscious tendency of the artist!

Others just shoot the zombies which are chasing us. Whereas I try to talk to them.

If the brainless realized that it is dead, maybe, just maybe, it would lay itself down to rest...

  Elikal

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8/13/13 12:04:37 PM#33

I just thought, those poor women will die horribly with their exposed kidney areas of pneumonia or what. It is more hilarious how female characters are posing like with broken spines and hips.

If men would pose like female heroes, it would look like this:

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Amylion

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OP  8/13/13 12:06:45 PM#34
Originally posted by Shubawkss
Male sexism because he's behind ladies? Oh please. I'm a Male myself, but that is the dumbest argument I've ever heard regarding sexism. 

Yeah, that would be dumb. The problem is that he is the only male. In the original art by Keith Parkinson he was an Erudite with an obvious big brain, looking into a far distance because he is too intelligent for this world. That's something different than hiding the only generic-looking male behind a woman with a big hammer.

Others just shoot the zombies which are chasing us. Whereas I try to talk to them.

If the brainless realized that it is dead, maybe, just maybe, it would lay itself down to rest...

  rodingo

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8/13/13 12:07:54 PM#35
From a technical art perspective the image is well balanced with both positive and negative space.   However it looks like it was done by someone who doesn't do many character illustrations.  Hardly any of the characters are drawn with the "line of action" in mind and like someone else said, the characters lack any emotion.  Makes the characters look really stiff.  About the sexism, I have no opinion becuase that's subjective anyways.

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  Blazefire

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8/13/13 12:11:52 PM#36

My god you people will complain about ANYTHING!!

Lol...

  Elikal

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8/13/13 12:13:08 PM#37
And as usual Jim Sterling made the best comment about the topic.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Iselin

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8/13/13 12:14:34 PM#38
The shadows didn't bother me until I looked at them... now they do. That alone shows the hurried, cobbled-together sloppiness to me... damn you OP!
 
But sexist? Lol give me a break...precisely because of the target audience there is a preponderance of fantasy females in heroic poses.
  User Deleted
8/13/13 12:17:54 PM#39
Thank you for this thread, /Rockniss deletes mmorpg.com account
  Gravarg

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8/13/13 12:18:30 PM#40

I don't think it's sexist.  I always make it a point to stand behind scantily clad women that wield a huge 2 hand hammer :)

 

Edit: Or any weapon(s) for that matter :P

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