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  inerv01

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Joined: 9/12/09
Posts: 7

8/12/13 3:57:31 PM#41
been following this a while. Still waiting for them to announce AO for the Surface RT. i need something to do on that paperweight.
  Malacth

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Joined: 8/21/08
Posts: 115

8/12/13 4:18:11 PM#42

Why do people who make Sandboxes believe full loot is a requirement?

 

Not interested anymore, sounded great as well.

  Ozmodan

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8/12/13 5:14:34 PM#43

Unless he intends to restrict combat to 4 on 4, he is wasting his time on mobile devices, there is no way you can pvp with a mobile device beyond very small fights.  Secondly, the computers will dominate any pvp on a mobile device, then adding in full loot, ridiculous.

Sounds pretty clueless to me.  A developer that ignores limits to technology should not be a developer.

  GeezerGamer

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8/12/13 5:24:59 PM#44
Wait! Wait!...Imma go back and re read this again!

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Ayulin

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8/12/13 5:28:48 PM#45
Originally posted by grimfall
Originally posted by Bunnyking

Full loot pvp? Top view?

 

Moving on... nothing to see here.

I just love these "I'm not gonna play ur game" posts.  So interesting and informative.  What do they call it, special snowflake syndrome?

It seems interesting.  I like the art style from the couple screenies posted.  The 5 x 5 guild fights seem rather restrictive though.  That's not even the size of EQ1 groups.

I love those kinds of posts as well. Reminds me of some old real-life friends of mine; they were a married couple. They disagreed with who won a season of Hell's Kitchen. In indignant protest - as though they were personally insulted - they assured each other of how they "refused to eat in that person's restaurant". I chuckled and said "you make it sound as though they'll be beating your door down, begging you to validate their victory by showing up".

 

They didn't appreciate that. Didn't talk to me for a little while after that. -shrug- Truth hurts, I guess, even when delivered facetiously.

 

In any case, the game sounds very interesting! Color me intrigued. I may just request an Alpha invite for myself.

 
  Comaf

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I want an mmorpg where pvp matters, my enemies are not my race or class, and community matters.

8/12/13 6:20:33 PM#46
Originally posted by Bercilak

We will do our best ;)

Call me crazy, but how about one server dedicated to a few different realms?  I played Dark Age of Camelot for years, and I've read a few history books and seen a few fantasy movies and I'm getting the feeling that sometimes it's cool to have entire cultures vs each other instead of me logging in and killing the same players and races that are on my team.

 

Spike tv had an offering called Deadliest warrior.  They pitted people of races and cultures that were different from each other.  The combatants had different martial styles, followed different beliefs and so forth. 

 

Pvp today is nothing more than gang banging.  You have turf, you get a group of fellows together and take some turf for a short period of time. 

 

Might as well call modern pvp just a sim of Chicago street gangs.  Same underprivileged kids from the same communities gunning each other down.  No unity among a people that an entire civil rights movement organized to protect and honor. 

 

So in a nutshell, your product to me at least, is far from epic or grand in scale.  It isn't any different than any other offering.  "Now a days" if you want to be different and stand out above the mediocrity of pvp experiences you should really consider a realm vs realm vs realm (hey why not 4?) mmo where the enemy is for once (drum roll) different.  DIfferences lend to real loyalty and give a new player a sense of immersion and intrigue...

 

 

  SirBalin

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8/12/13 6:23:24 PM#47
Originally posted by elocke
Full loot yet again.  /sigh  I can already play Mortal Online and Darkfall as well as Eve, why would I choose to play this one?  So tired of the Full Loot mechanic ruining so many potential sandboxes.  SWG didn't have full loot and I had a blast PVPing in that sandbox.

Lmao, wait...you are acting like full loot is the norm and there are tons of full loot games...

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  mysticalspam

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Joined: 8/20/10
Posts: 68

8/12/13 6:34:19 PM#48
luv the words FULL LOOT... it just screams we don't care, we only want 10 to 15% of the player base we could have had..... :D

  General-Zod

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 550

Kneel.

8/12/13 6:36:45 PM#49
Originally posted by Ayulin
Originally posted by grimfall
Originally posted by Bunnyking

Full loot pvp? Top view?

 

Moving on... nothing to see here.

I just love these "I'm not gonna play ur game" posts.  So interesting and informative.  What do they call it, special snowflake syndrome?

It seems interesting.  I like the art style from the couple screenies posted.  The 5 x 5 guild fights seem rather restrictive though.  That's not even the size of EQ1 groups.

I love those kinds of posts as well. Reminds me of some old real-life friends of mine; they were a married couple. They disagreed with who won a season of Hell's Kitchen. In indignant protest - as though they were personally insulted - they assured each other of how they "refused to eat in that person's restaurant". I chuckled and said "you make it sound as though they'll be beating your door down, begging you to validate their victory by showing up".

 

They didn't appreciate that. Didn't talk to me for a little while after that. -shrug- Truth hurts, I guess, even when delivered facetiously.

 

In any case, the game sounds very interesting! Color me intrigued. I may just request an Alpha invite for myself.

 

  bubbabill

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Posts: 82

8/12/13 6:48:52 PM#50
Pve crowd just give them this game.  let them have the full loot ow pvp.  the 10k players will have a ball and hopefully leave the others games alone
  observer

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Posts: 2117

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8/12/13 6:59:46 PM#51

Some of you need better reading comprehension and understanding.  It's in the title!  Cross-Platform, and it's not just for mobile.

I was interested until i saw that it will be fixed in isometric view.

  azmundai

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Posts: 1424

8/12/13 7:08:42 PM#52
pretty hard to bring back old school with a "BUY MOAR GOLD!!!1!!11111!!!" Button permanently stamped on your ui.

LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already :)

  General-Zod

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Posts: 550

Kneel.

8/12/13 7:09:07 PM#53
Originally posted by bubbabill
Pve crowd just give them this game.  let them have the full loot ow pvp.  the 10k players will have a ball and hopefully leave the others games alone

As if PvP centric players could ruin the fun for PvE'ers in a PvE game ....

  Voqar

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8/12/13 7:18:07 PM#54

Sorry but AO = Anarchy Online.

 

This doesn't sound like my cup since MMORPG PvP is just grief-based garbage but it sounds like something griefers might get into.  Full looting on PvP death probably still appeals to a very small number of people.

 

Add in the fact that they are developing for iOS/mobile and the game will have to be ultra simple to the point of comedy.  Anybody who develops games for Linux is goofy since Linux market share is microscopic and the number of gamers out of that sliver is even smaller.

 

Developing a niche game for platforms unsuited to complex gaming seems brilliant.

 

I'd imagine this game will be F2P as well, compounding the fail.

 

Premium MMORPGs do not feature built-in cheating via cash for gold pay 2 win. PLAY to win or don't play.

  time007

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Joined: 7/09/09
Posts: 334

"Get your FPS out of my MMORPG" - Timetrapper (me)

8/12/13 7:39:13 PM#55

This sounds great.  Though this part I don't agree with "On the other hand, we never liked the fact that nowadays most MMORPGS force you to grind for a very long time before you have a character that can compete in PVP or boosts your stats." 

 

Actually, you can play most MMO's and hit the level cap alone within a week or two hehe.  That's not a long grind in my book. 

  archisis

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8/12/13 7:41:36 PM#56
Originally posted by Voqar

Sorry but AO = Anarchy Online.

 

Absolutely! :)

  time007

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"Get your FPS out of my MMORPG" - Timetrapper (me)

8/12/13 7:51:51 PM#57

Also, to the developers, don't be discouraged by all the people being turned off by the full loot aspect.  Keep the full loot aspect in place!  This is fine.  I think a handful of people posted "oh I stopped reading after full loot pvp" etc etc.  But don't worry about these guys since they didn't bother to read the whole article or read about what other things you put in place to make this game different from other games. 

 

Point number 2.  A lot of people are worried about the pvp.  Did you guys read the part saying that you can craft and stay in your guilds safe zone and still contribute?  And their are bonuses to defense for peaceful guilds.  So it's not like you are going to be getting griefed 24/7 in your guilds territory.  Also he mentioned the guild vs guild wasn't 24/7.  The time slot is designated by the DEFENDING guild.  Please read the article carefully before making quick judgements about what you "feel" is going to happen. 

 

Keep up the good work!  Keep doing what you're doing!  Don't try to cater to the "oh you better not do this or I'm not playing" crowd.  These guys have tons of games to choose from that match the cookie cutter stuff they like.  Keep on making the unique game you have in mind!

 
EDIT:  One note to the developers, please don't water down your game at all to cater to any of the mainstream crowd.  You have good ideas, so please don't dilute them.  If you are going sandbox keep it sandbox and complete your game the cutting edge way you want it.  If you try to cater/adjust your sandbox and dilute/water down the hardcore/tough elements it will turn off both the sandbox fans and themepark fans.

  jbombard

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8/12/13 7:53:35 PM#58

I don't know... this game is probably just not for me but I will list my concerns anyway.  I am sure it does have it's own niche though.

 

Full loot PvP is something I don't particularly care for, but depending on the surrounding systems can be tolerable.  The problem here is that your entire character appears to be based on your gear.  So you don't simply lose your gear, for all intents and purposes it might as well be permadeath, because starting over would probably be just as fast.

 

My other concern is that while I love sandbox aspects that allow you to affect the world around you, I am having trouble understanding what creates the bond between the player and the character in this game.  There doesn't seem to be any progression system other than gear, which can be lost at a moments notice, and personally I like games with complex character building and planning where you must make sacrifices to become the character you envision and not simply swap some gear on a whim.  Once again it's probably just not for me.

  LacedOpium

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8/12/13 8:18:40 PM#59

Nothing spells "niche" better than the words "full loot PvP."  On the other hand, you gotta admire an MMORPG company who doesn't care about maximizing profits.  Do your investor's know though?

 

 

  stevebombsquad

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8/12/13 8:25:19 PM#60
I dig this because the devs seem to be making a game that they want to play. I don't mind the FFA full loot as long as the game is engaging and challenging.  If you are looking for gaming socialism and carebear PVP then go log in to GW2..........

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