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  GeezerGamer

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8/06/13 11:31:31 AM#21


Originally posted by Sephastus Does GW2 have any of the following:   Fully Destroyable envioroment?   No Levels?   Unlockable Classes through quests that each have skills attached to them?   3 dimentional layered gameworld generated on the fly (ability to break the floor and drop into a randomly generated dungeon, which can be nested)   Randomly generated quests with no quest markers or help screen... just NPC chat.   Constantly evolving world based on player Action (s) or inaction.   Real world player/guild housing.   If the only thing that you can think of that looks SIMILAR to GW2 is weapon swapping, then you are trying way too hard to make these completely different games, similar. Many action games before GW2 had "red circle" dodging mechanics as well, does that make GW2 a close of those games? Other games had active dodging, like Tera, does that make GW2 a Tera clone?   Some people are trying really hard to make these 2 really dis-similar games match, when obviously they are exaggeratedly different.
A "hand picked" list of features the do not exist in GW2 does nothing to address the similarities and doesn't do a thing for the argument against being a clone.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Kuppa

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8/06/13 11:32:34 AM#22
Originally posted by Sephastus

Does GW2 have any of the following:

 

Fully Destroyable envioroment?

 

No Levels?

 

Unlockable Classes through quests that each have skills attached to them?

 

3 dimentional layered gameworld generated on the fly (ability to break the floor and drop into a randomly generated dungeon, which can be nested)

 

Randomly generated quests with no quest markers or help screen... just NPC chat.

 

Constantly evolving world based on player Action (s) or inaction.

 

Real world player/guild housing.

 

If the only thing that you can think of that looks SIMILAR to GW2 is weapon swapping, then you are trying way too hard to make these completely different games, similar. Many action games before GW2 had "red circle" dodging mechanics as well, does that make GW2 a close of those games? Other games had active dodging, like Tera, does that make GW2 a Tera clone?

 

Some people are trying really hard to make these 2 really dis-similar games match, when obviously they are exaggeratedly different.

hehehe I love it when people start to add PR bullet points to their list of "new" features.

Constantly evolving world based on player actions??? cmon, can't get more PR bs than that. Probably every mmo out there has that in their list of "features". Doesn't really mean anything when it comes down to it.

 


  Cothor

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8/06/13 11:34:29 AM#23
While I am impressed with the graphics and the world building, I am very disappointed with my understanding of the skill system. I was hoping they were going the route of Ultima Online with skill training and development. It is still a bit early to jump to conclusions, but much more often than not, when something looks bad, it turns out to be bad in the mmorpg world. Even if it is pre beta, I've learned my lesson from many long past and failed games.
  Tierless

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8/06/13 11:34:35 AM#24

Yes

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  Naqaj

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8/06/13 11:34:39 AM#25
They seem to share a lot of design goals as a result of identifying and trying to solve the same problems with the traditional MMO design. The solutions they come up with are quite different though, in many cases where Arenanet eventually didn't dare to really break with some traditions, SOE actually does. 
  Markusrind

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8/06/13 11:35:56 AM#26
Originally posted by Arkain
Originally posted by elocke

Seems that way to me.  8 skills, 4 of them based on your weapon of choice.  Action Combat and dodging.  Dynamic content.  No real progression other than unlocking skills.  No sub fee.  Sure, it's taking the living world to the next step, with destructible terrain which can be good or bad. 

 

To me, that system seems closer to The Secret World.

Yeah that was my thinking too. Lots of skills but the art is in matching and synergising skills with your own skills and other characters skills. 

  arieste

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8/06/13 11:40:21 AM#27
Originally posted by RizelStar
 I have no clue if its many or not who love the trinity 

Well, all you need to do is talk with people and listen to their opinions and you'll know.  It's not that hard.   

 

Also, i never quoted any numbers or used the word "majority".   

 

Although - if you were to compile all the concerns that people have about EQN - i would guess that "Disney Graphics" and "GW2 / Trinity-less combat" would be the top two concerns.

 

For example, here is a fairly well-phrased poll of 140 totally random MMORPG members:   http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5885463#5885463        Almost 70% would prefer to have defined roles.  Is that "many"?  Well, it's more than not.   

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  Vorch

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8/06/13 11:44:34 AM#28

It seems to expand on GW2, which should make it a true competitor to GW2, forcing both EQN and GW2 to innovate to out-do one another.

My only issue is F2P atm, but besides that, I plan on making EQN and GW2 my games based on what I've seen thus far.

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  Mightyking

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8/06/13 11:45:59 AM#29
Originally posted by Telondariel
Originally posted by elocke

Seems that way to me.  8 skills, 4 of them based on your weapon of choice.  Action Combat and dodging.  Dynamic content.  No real progression other than unlocking skills.  No sub fee.  Sure, it's taking the living world to the next step, with destructible terrain which can be good or bad. 

 

A response is being prepared to address this.

 

From Dave Georgeson's Twitter

 

 

Cool, keep us informed on this important stuff, since I don't do twitter and facebook and g+ and whatever else there is.

  MMOGamer71

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8/06/13 11:48:37 AM#30
This thread is a clone of other clone threads.
  elocke

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OP  8/06/13 11:50:04 AM#31
Originally posted by Telondariel
Originally posted by elocke

Seems that way to me.  8 skills, 4 of them based on your weapon of choice.  Action Combat and dodging.  Dynamic content.  No real progression other than unlocking skills.  No sub fee.  Sure, it's taking the living world to the next step, with destructible terrain which can be good or bad. 

 

A response is being prepared to address this.

 

From Dave Georgeson's Twitter

 

 

Fair enough, but if you notice, he says "surface similarity" and to be honest, all we've seen IS the surface.  So my conjecture at this point is founded, at least on the surface ;P, by current evidence.

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  Sephastus

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8/06/13 11:52:25 AM#32
Originally posted by Kuppa

hehehe I love it when people start to add PR bullet points to their list of "new" features.

Constantly evolving world based on player actions??? cmon, can't get more PR bs than that. Probably every mmo out there has that in their list of "features". Doesn't really mean anything when it comes down to it.

I have played EQ2, and I know exactly what they mean when they said this bullet point, and I have participated in them. In EQ2, there would be certain events that required the entire server participation to advance... even in EQ1 they had this, which was Waking up Kerafyrm. Once it was done, the event was over, and the world was changed forever... if it wasn't done, as what happened with some servers with Kerafyrm, the world never advanced to that stage.

 

Players DID have the ability to change the world, and I suspect they are doing the same thing in EQN, only at a much bigger scale, and with these "events" hidden inside the game. The first of these events, however, that has already been announced, and is expected to last a few months from launch, is the building of the initial player cities.

 

That is right... instead of them MAKING the starting city for you, you get to go out and make it. How this all plays out is yet to be seen, but since no 2 servers will be alike, or progress the same way, you better believe this is different than GW2, where you could change servers, and everything was exactly the same, but with different player names.

 

Just because you do not like a particular game doesn't mean you have to be on a crusade to make it seem more like a game that you do like, just to justify why so many people see it better than the game you do enjoy.

 

You got one thing right though: I do not like GW2. Never did like it, because it was too PvP focused, without any real progression once you reached max level. It was a game with a disguised lifetime membership, that they played off as a "buy once, play forever" farce. Had the box been physically sold, and been at the same prices as other MMOs, then I might have swallowed it, but since their vast mayority of sales were digital, where they had no out of pocket expenses, and people payed close to $70.00 or more, I still see it as a cheap lifetime membership, with a cash shop tacked on.

 

I admit my leanings... now will you fess up to yours? Why are you really hating on this game?

  elocke

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OP  8/06/13 11:52:38 AM#33
Originally posted by Arkain
Originally posted by elocke

Seems that way to me.  8 skills, 4 of them based on your weapon of choice.  Action Combat and dodging.  Dynamic content.  No real progression other than unlocking skills.  No sub fee.  Sure, it's taking the living world to the next step, with destructible terrain which can be good or bad. 

 

To me, that system seems closer to The Secret World.

Ah, good point.  Yeah it does seem like TSW.  TSW is fairly close to being like GW2 though, so maybe it too is a GW2 clone or is GW2 a TSW clone? Lol.  All part and parcel of the same game type, basically.  It's definitely not "traditional".

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  aspekx

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8/06/13 11:57:26 AM#34
Originally posted by Sephastus

Does GW2 have any of the following:

 

Fully Destroyable envioroment?

 

No Levels?

 

Unlockable Classes through quests that each have skills attached to them?

 

3 dimentional layered gameworld generated on the fly (ability to break the floor and drop into a randomly generated dungeon, which can be nested)

 

Randomly generated quests with no quest markers or help screen... just NPC chat.

 

Constantly evolving world based on player Action (s) or inaction.

 

Real world player/guild housing.

 

If the only thing that you can think of that looks SIMILAR to GW2 is weapon swapping, then you are trying way too hard to make these completely different games, similar. Many action games before GW2 had "red circle" dodging mechanics as well, does that make GW2 a close of those games? Other games had active dodging, like Tera, does that make GW2 a Tera clone?

 

Some people are trying really hard to make these 2 really dis-similar games match, when obviously they are exaggeratedly different.

^please moar rational thought. it makes the oldtimers nervous and really, really angry.

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  elocke

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OP  8/06/13 12:00:05 PM#35
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
((eye roll)) Just what we need a 8897768796 thread on the same topic thats not based on fact. You know the saying about when you assume? Come on people, we need 87 more thread on this topic by the end of the day, stop slacking!!!!!

It's not like I've read every single post on this or other forums to come to your conclusion.  Personally, I hadn't seen anyone mention it.  I won't lie, I'm not overly fond of EQNext's design because it reminds me of GW2, a game that on paper sounded phenomenal but in practice left me wanting after a solid month of play.  I just don't want EQNext or any game for that matter to make the same mistakes due to design decisions.

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  Shezzi

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Might play EQN + new secret SWG-type game Sony is working on! In the meantime, ESO is looking good!

8/06/13 12:01:51 PM#36

Re GW2 comparisons: The Director of Development for Everquest Next tweeted the following on August 5:

David Georgeson ‏@TaliskerDev We'll prep a response soon. Too detailed for twitter. Try to resist compare to GW2. Surface similarity.

I'm waiting for more information. At least I've heard that rally calls don't repeat, and that they last months.

 

  hikaru77

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8/06/13 12:02:20 PM#37
Originally posted by elocke

Seems that way to me.  8 skills, 4 of them based on your weapon of choice.  Action Combat and dodging.  Dynamic content.  No real progression other than unlocking skills.  No sub fee.  Sure, it's taking the living world to the next step, with destructible terrain which can be good or bad. 

After reading some intriguing responses, I've noticed that EQNext is very similar to TSW as well, perhaps more so than GW2.  Either way, it seems to be a "new" subsect of the MMO genre, moving away from "traditional" gameplay.  Which is fine, as it appears there are tons of gamers who fit into that niche just fine.  Just don't discount us "traditional" MMO gamers as not having opinions that count, as I think we do. 

Is nothing like GW2 or TSW. 

  elocke

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OP  8/06/13 12:04:01 PM#38
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by elocke

Seems that way to me.  8 skills, 4 of them based on your weapon of choice.  Action Combat and dodging.  Dynamic content.  No real progression other than unlocking skills.  No sub fee.  Sure, it's taking the living world to the next step, with destructible terrain which can be good or bad. 

After reading some intriguing responses, I've noticed that EQNext is very similar to TSW as well, perhaps more so than GW2.  Either way, it seems to be a "new" subsect of the MMO genre, moving away from "traditional" gameplay.  Which is fine, as it appears there are tons of gamers who fit into that niche just fine.  Just don't discount us "traditional" MMO gamers as not having opinions that count, as I think we do. 

Is nothing like GW2 or TSW. 

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Wow...that was informative.

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  KamikazeKite

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Joined: 6/11/12
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8/06/13 12:05:58 PM#39
Just shut up about the clone thing already. Some kid fancied using that term once now everyone thinks everything is a god damn clone. 
  matixzun

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Joined: 5/23/10
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8/06/13 12:08:02 PM#40
I think the biggest difference is that EQN is a sandbox, the content and the world is truly dynamic, changing based on players's actions, instead of just a disguised old themepark without quest-givers, I think the only think that is truly similar is certain aspects of combat (A lot of which are exaggerated as copied, when there are key differences. That leads me to think that there are 3 kinds of people that say its a GW2 clone: The first are the GW2 fans, The second are those who haven't been informed properly (those are the only I think are understandable, there are lots of things to know), and the last one are the good ol' SOE haters who are butthurt.
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