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  QuickShatter

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Joined: 7/21/13
Posts: 13

8/03/13 10:14:26 AM#301
Originally posted by Laughing-man

Oh and The Kerra look exactly like Char.

(From GW2)

Oh yeah? where are the horns? I played both generations of guildwars and Charr had horn EVEN if they had really little horns.

  IridescentOrk

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Joined: 5/27/13
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8/03/13 10:18:21 AM#302
total lie about destroying everything

gameplay > graphics

  QuickShatter

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8/03/13 10:23:03 AM#303

Graphics? you guys are whining about Graphics? when did, how SUPER life like a game looks take priority over how good a gameplays?

Also you guys have to realise that, the art style they chose maybe easyer for lower end computers to play. They aren't just making the game for you guys who have invested a shit ton of money into gaming rig.

Gameplay > Graphics : Seriously graphics? go back to the console games then, they are always pretty.

  butchogrande

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8/03/13 10:24:13 AM#304

I'm i the only one that is not Impressed ?

 

I would have waitet 1-2 Year for this presentation. It's was clearly only a pre pre pre pre alpha show of the game, and it had cleary some downsides (like monsters not responding, Effect sounds, e.g.....) 

 

To be honest - i don't like the PS2 Engine that much- i Just installed PS2 to take a look, but was kind of disappointed - if this is the new Plattform for EQN, mm. Since it will be out in about 2-3 Year maybe, this will be pretty much out-of-date.

 

but those are only my 2 cents

 
  QuickShatter

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8/03/13 10:31:23 AM#305
Originally posted by Dren_Utogi

The future of mmorpgs... with those graphics... no, no and nope.

Pathfinder, looks to be the future, Archage the future, Black Desert is the future... nothing SOE can create can be the future because the investors would never roll the dice on something "new".

 

Good article Bill, just a waste  of time in my opinion.

 

Compare SOE Future, with http://youtu.be/TNtB5DoJ6OI

 

Your also wasting you time putting forth a negative post, "In my opinion".

One of the features they wanted for EQ-Next was THE BIGGEST WORLD THEY"VE MADE YET. Throw in destructable enviorments, and hidden undiscovered dungeons coupled with the "World changes are permanent" Thing, Oh yeah life like graphic sure that'll run perfectly on EVERYONE's computer no sweat.

Graphics lol.

  Scot

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Joined: 10/10/03
Posts: 5249

8/03/13 10:34:37 AM#306
Originally posted by QuickShatter

Graphics? you guys are whining about Graphics? when did, how SUPER life like a game looks take priority over how good a gameplays?

Also you guys have to realise that, the art style they chose maybe easyer for lower end computers to play. They aren't just making the game for you guys who have invested a shit ton of money into gaming rig.

Gameplay > Graphics : Seriously graphics? go back to the console games then, they are always pretty.

Have you been living on an alternate Earth since the millennium? Graphics has become king, gameplay is secondary and has been for years. It is a sad fact but if your game does not get at least 7.5 for graphics it is likely doomed. I am not saying there are not exceptions, Minecraft springs to mind. But they are exceptions for a reason.

  Darth-Batman

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8/03/13 10:44:10 AM#307
That looks a lot better than I thought it would.
  zethcarn

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Joined: 7/18/04
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8/03/13 10:44:38 AM#308
Originally posted by Scot
Originally posted by QuickShatter

Graphics? you guys are whining about Graphics? when did, how SUPER life like a game looks take priority over how good a gameplays?

Also you guys have to realise that, the art style they chose maybe easyer for lower end computers to play. They aren't just making the game for you guys who have invested a shit ton of money into gaming rig.

Gameplay > Graphics : Seriously graphics? go back to the console games then, they are always pretty.

Have you been living on an alternate Earth since the millennium? Graphics has become king, gameplay is secondary and has been for years. It is a sad fact but if your game does not get at least 7.5 for graphics it is likely doomed. I am not saying there are not exceptions, Minecraft springs to mind. But they are exceptions for a reason.

Real gamers don't be graphics as the #1 priority, IMO.

  Dragim

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Joined: 1/30/04
Posts: 848

8/03/13 10:50:17 AM#309

Expect to see many penises crop up throughout the world of Azeroth...er wait, I am sorry, getting games mixed up here, I meant to say Norrath.

And with the graphics geared toward younger kids, I expect this phallus tendency to grow.

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Everquest Next: The future of Azeroth evolved into Norrath.

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Like most MMOs...good ideas, poor execution.

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Que an item shop full of fuzzly cuddly pets, sparkling mounts and candy gum drop costumes.

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Looks like someone ate "WoW" 9 years ago and finally threw up Everquest Next.

 

I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.

  Ozmodan

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Posts: 6671

8/03/13 10:51:46 AM#310
Originally posted by Scot
Originally posted by QuickShatter

Graphics? you guys are whining about Graphics? when did, how SUPER life like a game looks take priority over how good a gameplays?

Also you guys have to realise that, the art style they chose maybe easyer for lower end computers to play. They aren't just making the game for you guys who have invested a shit ton of money into gaming rig.

Gameplay > Graphics : Seriously graphics? go back to the console games then, they are always pretty.

Have you been living on an alternate Earth since the millennium? Graphics has become king, gameplay is secondary and has been for years. It is a sad fact but if your game does not get at least 7.5 for graphics it is likely doomed. I am not saying there are not exceptions, Minecraft springs to mind. But they are exceptions for a reason.

Have to disagree with you here the graphics are perfectly fine.  Who wants a game that lags at every other step because it is loading those beautiful graphics off of storage?????  Few have 16gb with a large solid state disk.  SOE is making this game so that the vast majority of people can play it.  No developer in their right mind makes a game for high level gaming rigs.

Graphics are not high on anyone's priority list except for a few whiners as long as they are decent and these are decent. 

  jojotheduck

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Joined: 3/28/08
Posts: 16

8/03/13 11:11:03 AM#311
Combat seems pretty standard and seems like it will be the usual boring mmo tab style. Everything else looks great though, esp. when it comes to exploring and building/destroying the world.
  kingotnw

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Joined: 2/13/04
Posts: 103

8/03/13 11:11:03 AM#312

[mod edit] almost none of you are mentioning or responding to comments about the roundtable, and the Dev/Player co-development. Quite honestly, it's awesome. How great is it that a large company cares so much about the lasting opinions of the players that want to play the game that they areliterally going to invlove them in a large chunk of the important play-style questions and mechanics of the game. THis is such a great idea, and it takes having a beta to an entirely new level. Not only will we be testing the developer's ideas, but our own ideas as well. That, in and of itself, is innovative.

 

Secondly, the AI in this game is going to blow everything out of the water. You literally will not be able to have the same experience when you roll an alt because the entire world will have changed top to bottom. Again, innovative far past what anyone has ever attempted to do before. Every server is going to develop entirely different, and each one will be like playing a different game .This fact alone makes me want to play the game right now. When I heard it I fell in love.

 

Thirdly, the FTP model. [mod edit]  In all of them, you can choose to pay a monthly sub and get all the features of the game for $15 a month, just like in the past. You won't have to worry about unlocking anything, all you will have to do, like in their other games, is buy the ex-pacs. There is nothing wrong with this model at all. It keeps people in the game at slow points in the life cycle, whether they are on a daily basis, such as evening time in the US per say, or on a longer level, such as downtimes because of holidays, or even struggling months if people are lean on cash. This is just more of people complaining because it is foreign to them. People are saying they jumped into the other FTP SOE games and uninstalled right away. Not one of you, evidently, actually subbed to one of the games, because every single person complaining about it seems to have no idea that you can pay a monthly sub and have everything unlocked, plus station cash bonuses every month.

 

Fourth, Dave Geogeson. This guy LOVES this game. I have had issues with him in the past. I really loved EQ2 when it was P2P and I played it for years and years. When it first went FTP, I got upset, like everyone in this thread seemed to. But when I gave it a chance and really thought about it, the F2P model was only hurting the game for people if they allowed it to, meaning if their perception of it made them leave the game, or refuse to pay the sub for full unlock. But at this point, I really do trust him and have faith in him. I have seen a lot of dev speeches and reveals for MMORPGs, but this guy clearly is in love with his game. It makes me comfortable that he is putting max effort into it, and it helps me to trust him.

 

PS4/PC - Why in the world is this a source of pain for people? What do you care? Seriously, sit at your computer desk and play it like you always have. Why should a PS4 version have any impact on you what-so-ever? It shouldn't. I just hope that they are running the both versions on the same servers. I have been a gamer my entire life, both PC and console. Right now, until I see what it is like (if there is in fact a PS4 version) my plan is to get it on the PC like always. However, if the PS4 version is good, then I will without a doubt be getting that version. I'll sit on my couch, in front of my 80" screen, with a keyboard and mouse in front of me, and I'll play... For hour, and hours. .  [mod edit]  My hope is that the release a PS4 version of it, because I really don't want to have to keep a million consoles hooked up in one room, but I will if need be.

 

[mod edit] 

  Iceman8235

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Joined: 5/28/04
Posts: 181

8/03/13 11:17:18 AM#313
They didn't seem to talk about anything that made EQ popular other than exploration.  Camping for hours waiting for a named to pop.  Forming a group and fighting deep into a dungeon for a prime grind spot.  How can you do a LFM for orc highway if the orcs are constantly moving?  It's going to be hard to create memories when the world and things in it change all the time.  Imagine if every time you went to the supermarket for groceries all the aisles were different and everything was changed around, does that sound enjoyable?
  kingotnw

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Joined: 2/13/04
Posts: 103

8/03/13 11:28:12 AM#314
Originally posted by Iceman8235
They didn't seem to talk about anything that made EQ popular other than exploration.  Camping for hours waiting for a named to pop.  Forming a group and fighting deep into a dungeon for a prime grind spot.  How can you do a LFM for orc highway if the orcs are constantly moving?  It's going to be hard to create memories when the world and things in it change all the time.  Imagine if every time you went to the supermarket for groceries all the aisles were different and everything was changed around, does that sound enjoyable?

You realize that in real life the world changes all the time, right? To use your example of a grocery store moving their stock... I'm sure the shops in the game will not move things around daily... That is a crazy example. I get what you're saying, but your example is silly. What made EQ1 popular was the fact that the world was immersive, This will only strengthen  that. Why would you want to do the exact same thing over and over with no variation if it can be helped? I'm sure you'll be able to LFM to kill orcs fairly easily, you may just have to scout their location before hand.

 
 
  Illyssia

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8/03/13 11:59:34 AM#315
Originally posted by Jackdog

An earlier poster nailed it with GW2 evolved. I think that about sums it up.

Well, we have to wait and see, but I for one would call SOE bull on this and say it is EQ guild wars. Now, that might be alright to play or it might not be, we will have to wait and see, as at this stage who knows.  For myself FF XIV ARR seems to be a real mmorpg that is worth putting time and effort into this year, if SOE can release GW Next in 2014 they will have been fast, but I am betting it slips into 2015. Dudes, that is still two years away!

  Talemire

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Jesus is Lord.

8/03/13 1:01:51 PM#316
Sure, the graphics do look cartoony, but oh man... a living and breathing world with full and completely customer characterization. They might as well hold the door for Blizzard's exit from the industry.

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  fierce750

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8/03/13 1:14:01 PM#317
WTB SSOY
  simmihi

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8/03/13 1:47:54 PM#318

Well, saw the SOE presentation live, can't say I was "that" impressed.

Nothing much for my kind of gamer. All about "look, nice emotes", "look, they jump in a spectacular way", "look, spell effects, whirlwind" Whirlwind, really?

If it's all about how characters look and what they smash and how they destroy what they smash... there's not much in it for me. Sure, some ideas were interesting, permanent changes to the world etc but i'd like to know what's the thinking, the reasons for all that to happen. This "GW2-esque" approach is telling me that maybe i am unable to "adapt" and maybe these "next gen MMO's" are not for me anymore. Well, it's probably too soon, maybe there's more in the next presentation.

  Neutor

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8/03/13 2:02:08 PM#319
I just don't get all the hype for this game.  I mean it looks like it will be an ok game but I don't the hype.  Combat is exactly like Wildstar / GW2, questing sounds like Rift / GW2, crafting who knows...is see some people raving about this game and hating on others with the save art style and graphics and the same systems in place...I don't get it, must be the name

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  Laserwolf

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8/03/13 2:11:05 PM#320

For the first time in 14 years I'm feeling like maybe....EQ>UO?

UO will always be my favorite MMO, but while Ultima is going in completely the wrong direction Everquest seems to be going in the right one by leaps and bounds.

That being said, I just really hope this turns out to be even half of what they promise. Right now I'm holding on to the idea of claiming a plot of land and being able to build on it brick by brick. If they give me that in a non-instanced part of the game world and allow me to incorporate pvp into it in some way I'm good to go.

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