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  Darwa

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OP  8/03/13 2:55:25 AM#21

I've now spoken with someone from SOE unofficially that tells me if you're in the EU and your account was created before SOE linked with PS1, then you'll be able to choose which region you play in. If not, then you're stuck 

Assuming this proves to be correct, then I'll be ok (as will many others), but I think it's still a very poor show to force anyone to use PS1.

  GrayImpact

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8/03/13 2:58:43 AM#22

I really loved the way EQnext looked, but I'll ditch it instantly if i have to play with ProSieben, especially since i have a bunch of station cash.

Hope I'll get the same chances as I got with planetside 2.

  Darwa

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OP  8/03/13 3:11:50 AM#23
Originally posted by Agoden

I'll ditch it instantly if i have to play with ProSieben

You're certainly not alone in that statement. I'm hoping that the FAQ sentence isn't as definite as it reads, and they will give us the option.

  Reizla

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MMORPGs are no longer about the mass multi-user anymore *sadly*

8/03/13 3:16:06 AM#24
Originally posted by keenber
Originally posted by Darwa
Originally posted by keenber
They are not blocking us as they gave me a chose as to do I want USA or Europe when I signed to EQN beta they just say that it isn't optermised for Europe to play on USA .

I had the choice too (from the website link) and kept getting looped back to the region choice after logging in. This is why I asked if it was region locked.

I got around this by using the direct link supplied in another thread, and received the confirmation email moments later.

Besides, you're talking about beta, and we're talking about the game when it goes live.

Strange I had no problem signing up through soe site.

I have no faith in EQN as 'the saviour of MMORPGs', but I want to give it a try. But signing up I was in that loop as well and no signup was sone after logging on half a dozen times with 2 different browsers. Looks like I either have to signup with EU publisher or just skip the whole thing *picks latter option*

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  Nasa

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8/03/13 3:18:31 AM#25

I think the main reason SOE lets PS1 handle the games in EU is that PS1 do the translation to German and French, so SOE can focus on just making games, not translate them.
This is also the reason why I think the EU version often will be older than NA version because PS1 have to translate to all the supported language before they release new version.
This is the case for Aion in EU.

  Darwa

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OP  8/03/13 3:21:19 AM#26
Originally posted by Reizla
Looks like I either have to signup with EU publisher or just skip the whole thing *picks latter option*

Try this link (I've updated the original post to include it as well).

https://account.station.sony.com/authenticated/beta/betaRegistrationLandingPage!input.action

  Darwa

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OP  8/03/13 3:25:22 AM#27
Originally posted by Nasa

I think the main reason SOE lets PS1 handle the games in EU is that PS1 do the translation to German and French, so SOE can focus on just making games, not translate them.
This is also the reason why I think the EU version often will be older than NA version because PS1 have to translate to all the supported language before they release new version.
This is the case for Aion in EU.

Good thinking, but why would the non-French/German speaking countries have to use PS1? I'm in the UK, and NA English is just fine for me, even if they do spell a bunch of words incorrectly ;)

I was told that they use PS1 for tax reasons, which would make sense even though I don't like it.

  Po_gg

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8/03/13 3:53:58 AM#28
Originally posted by Darwa

I've now spoken with someone from SOE unofficially that tells me if you're in the EU and your account was created before SOE linked with PS1, then you'll be able to choose which region you play in. If not, then you're stuck 

Thx the info, it explains a lot.

I can switch regions in DCUO for example, but a late started buddy of mine can't and I never understood why. (and my account too is sorta "splitted" as if I log in to Vanguard I still got to SOE's page since P7S1 is not handling Vanguard). So there's no IP block if you have an older account, but you can only create a new one at P7S1 from the Eu - at least without using an US proxy :)

 

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
I've dealed with crappy third party European publishers in a few other games like LOTRO, and I really hope they won't block IPs. I'll play through a VPN otherwise, no big deal.

There are a few crappy ones indeed, but Codies was great actually... Customer service was helpful, gm events were nice, and we were spared from the failed patches of Turbine, only the fixed ones got implemented :) not to mention we had 50-100ms less ping.

  JeroKane

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8/03/13 3:59:13 AM#29
Originally posted by Darwa
Originally posted by Reizla
Looks like I either have to signup with EU publisher or just skip the whole thing *picks latter option*

Try this link (I've updated the original post to include it as well).

https://account.station.sony.com/authenticated/beta/betaRegistrationLandingPage!input.action

Link doesn´t work. Get an error message on the SOE account page.

  Reizla

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MMORPGs are no longer about the mass multi-user anymore *sadly*

8/03/13 3:59:18 AM#30
Originally posted by Darwa
Originally posted by Reizla
Looks like I either have to signup with EU publisher or just skip the whole thing *picks latter option*

Try this link (I've updated the original post to include it as well).

https://account.station.sony.com/authenticated/beta/betaRegistrationLandingPage!input.action

Sadly not working... I get a  'we've encountered an error' message and I can contact support for it.

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  daemon

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8/03/13 4:22:43 AM#31
LOL that EU site is such a mess. Where do they find this in crap?!
  Lord.Bachus

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8/03/13 4:30:38 AM#32

Eq2 does not have an IP block... I dont know if tyats the standard, or if thats there to allow EU enlish people to keep playing with their friends..

 

DCuO does also not have an IP block

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  Lorgarn

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8/03/13 4:38:17 AM#33
I remember they talked abot this ProSieben thing during Planetside2 development/beta. What happened with that?

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  Bladebur

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8/03/13 4:43:14 AM#34

SOE marks some player accounts as 'Europe only' and those are only allowed to play on ProSieben servers. This process is usually done when the user starts some kind of migration to Europe in one of their games. If you try to access the registration beta link with your account and you get an error page, you are probably in this group, and you will only be able to play (using that account) in ProSieben servers.

That being mentioned, the registration process suggests there will be IP blocks in place, since it is trying to guess your location and forces you to the (broken) ProSieben pages if you are in Europe.

For the people outside EU who wonder what is all this fuss about, ProSieben is notorious as being the worst hosting service in the planet. They offer meaningless customer support, they frequently lose and are unable to restore player data and even entire accounts, they are incredibly incompetent at the technical front, they frequently ban people for no reason and with no explanation while hackers and bots run rampant in their games, etc. Not to mention many instances of ProSieben staff responding to customers with insults and a complete lack of education (and that is the lucky ones who get an answer for a problem).

Like most other players, I was interested in the game until the ProSieben fiasco was revealed. I have zero interest now as I'm not happy to jump trough hoops and hacks just to be able to play the game as it was meant to be played (I'm in the 'EU only mark' camp too).

  cheyane

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8/03/13 4:49:06 AM#35
I have two very old EQ accounts that I never migrated in spite of receiving ominous emails to the effect of losing the right to play DCU which I bought if I do not switch to Europe. I stuck to it and hopefully it paid off and I can still play on the US server despite living in the EU. Here's to you ProS 

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  JeroKane

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8/03/13 4:49:41 AM#36
Originally posted by Bladebur

SOE marks some player accounts as 'Europe only' and those are only allowed to play on ProSieben servers. This process is usually done when the user starts some kind of migration to Europe in one of their games. If you try to access the registration beta link with your account and you get an error page, you are probably in this group, and you will only be able to play (using that account) in ProSieben servers.

That being mentioned, the registration process suggests there will be IP blocks in place, since it is trying to guess your location and forces you to the (broken) ProSieben pages if you are in Europe.

For the people outside EU who wonder what is all this fuss about, ProSieben is notorious as being the worst hosting service in the planet. They offer meaningless customer support, they frequently lose and are unable to restore player data and even entire accounts, they are incredibly incompetent at the technical front, they frequently ban people for no reason and with no explanation while hackers and bots run rampant in their games, etc. Not to mention many instances of ProSieben staff responding to customers with insults and a complete lack of education (and that is the lucky ones who get an answer for a problem).

Like most other players, I was interested in the game until the ProSieben fiasco was revealed. I have zero interest now as I'm not happy to jump trough hoops and hacks just to be able to play the game as it was meant to be played (I'm in the 'EU only mark' camp too).

QFT!

But they reverted their decision. I can play Everquest2, Vanguard and PS2 on my SOE account and was no longer forced to migrate those.

Unfortunately for my DCUO account it was too late and I am no longer able to play that game via SOE. :-(

I sincerly hope SOE is not going to try again and force EU players to sign up with ProSieben.

If this will be the case, then SOE can just as well not bother with anyone outside Europe anymore and lock themselves up within US borders! /facepalm

As not a single player with a sane mind is gonna sign up with ProSieben! They are an utter disaster! They even make other hosters like France Telecom, Frogster, etc look good. /shrug

  Jeleena

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8/03/13 4:51:22 AM#37
Originally posted by Darwa

I've now spoken with someone from SOE unofficially that tells me if you're in the EU and your account was created before SOE linked with PS1, then you'll be able to choose which region you play in. If not, then you're stuck 

Assuming this proves to be correct, then I'll be ok (as will many others), but I think it's still a very poor show to force anyone to use PS1.

Well if that's the case then I am fine, since I still have my EQ1 Station account, even if it has been sleeping for years. I managed to sign up for beta thru that.

I will not play if I have to go to PS1. The seperate provider in DAoC was awful and I do not hear anything better, even worst, about PS1. I simply don't 'get'  why we need a seperate EU provider in this day and age ....

  SpottyGekko

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8/03/13 5:01:37 AM#38

Looks like we'll have to go through the same struggle as we did with PS2.

 

We EU players will once again have to fight tooth and nail to keep our old SOE accounts active for EQNext. SOE will make it as difficult as possible, including delaying our beta signup opportunities indefinitely.

 

Once you have created a Prosiebensat account for any SOE game, you will not be allowed to play that game via your pre-existing SOE account.

 

If you're in the EU and have no prior SOE account, you HAVE TO register a ProSiebenSat account and play via the EU servers. You also have to use ProSiebenSat's version of Station Cash and the their Cash Shop. 

 

  Reizla

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8/03/13 5:07:03 AM#39
Originally posted by Jeleena
Originally posted by Darwa

I've now spoken with someone from SOE unofficially that tells me if you're in the EU and your account was created before SOE linked with PS1, then you'll be able to choose which region you play in. If not, then you're stuck 

Assuming this proves to be correct, then I'll be ok (as will many others), but I think it's still a very poor show to force anyone to use PS1.

Well if that's the case then I am fine, since I still have my EQ1 Station account, even if it has been sleeping for years. I managed to sign up for beta thru that.

I will not play if I have to go to PS1. The seperate provider in DAoC was awful and I do not hear anything better, even worst, about PS1. I simply don't 'get'  why we need a seperate EU provider in this day and age ....

I'm in a double boat here... My DCOU account was forcebly merged to Pro-Seben, while all my other games are still hosted by SOE. But somehow I'm not allowed to sign up at SOE for the beta. I have already made it a ticket and made it very clear that I either play EQNext through SOE or will not play it at all. If they only look at my DCUO gaming data, they can see that 1 day after the (forced) migration of that account I stopped playing it :p

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  skadad

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8/03/13 5:14:41 AM#40
Originally posted by Darwa
Originally posted by Agoden

I'll ditch it instantly if i have to play with ProSieben

You're certainly not alone in that statement. I'm hoping that the FAQ sentence isn't as definite as it reads, and they will give us the option.

no way im going with pro7.. eqnext is a nogo if im forced to do that.

 

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