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News & Features Discussion  » Project Titan: Morhaime: "...unlikely to be a subscription based MMORPG."

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  MikeB Community Manager

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OP  8/01/13 4:24:37 PM#1

Blizzard's Mike Morhaime described the super-secret Project Titan as "unlikely to be a subscription based MMORPG" during today's Activision-Blizzard investor call.

"We're in the process of selecting a new direction for the project and re-envisioning what we want the game to be," Morhaime said. "While we can't talk about the details yet, it is unlikely to be a subscription based MMORPG."

"I also want to reiterate that there has not been an official announced or projected release date."

via Polygon.

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8/01/13 4:26:43 PM#2



Probably won't play.


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8/01/13 4:27:41 PM#3

" be honest, Its unlikely to even happen."

I can count the number of actual gamers here on one hand.


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8/01/13 4:28:53 PM#4
Final Fantasy XIV is prolly the last subscription based mmo to be released

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I want an mmorpg where pvp matters, my enemies are not my race or class, and community matters.

8/01/13 4:29:05 PM#5
Originally posted by Shadowguy64



Probably won't play.

I agree, considering how terrible Blizzard's reputation has been with being unable to make profits off of groundbreaking mmorpg concepts - OH WAIT. 


Seriously - folks want cash shops over a sub model that has a cosmetic shop at best?  Somehow, I'll bet the millions that play this next title won't be concerned with a F2P concept.  They will be too busy having fun.


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8/01/13 4:33:00 PM#6
If it's not sub-based then I wont be playing.  Looks like my mmo days are numbered now.   Time to dust off my single player games.

I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.


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8/01/13 4:35:19 PM#7

Absolutely free without cash shop ?


So, did ESO have a successful launch? Yes, yes it did.
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8/01/13 4:36:04 PM#8
Originally posted by Comaf
Originally posted by Shadowguy64



Probably won't play.

I agree, considering how terrible Blizzard's reputation has been with being unable to make profits off of groundbreaking mmorpg concepts - OH WAIT. 


Seriously - folks want cash shops over a sub model that has a cosmetic shop at best?  Somehow, I'll bet the millions that play this next title won't be concerned with a F2P concept.  They will be too busy having fun.

Don't mind him.  He's just trying to make a statement.


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8/01/13 4:36:12 PM#9
Funny how people can know in advance if they will play something or not based only on the payment model. Thats only one factor in fifty for me to consider if a game interests me or not

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8/01/13 4:37:02 PM#10

I think project "Titan" is a hoax. I think they just keep bringing it up occasionally to keep the rabid fanbase interested.



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8/01/13 4:41:47 PM#11
Originally posted by jpaprocki
If it's not sub-based then I wont be playing.  Looks like my mmo days are numbered now.   Time to dust off my single player games.

Not to sound condescending but do you even listen to what you type?  Your going to quit a genre because it no longer offers a paid subscription service for a genre which is chalk full of non-subscription services?

Random Forum Poster: I want an MMO that is different, original and fun.

Me: So you want something like EQN

Them: Nah dude, I want a Holy Trinity, Tab Target combat, Instanced Raiding, and Rigid classes.

Me: Double Facepalm.


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8/01/13 4:46:52 PM#12
This game is dead before it even launches. Lol

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8/01/13 4:48:09 PM#13
Add me to the list of people with Zero interest in cash shop f2p MMO #38327304.  Even if its by Blizzard not interested. 

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8/01/13 4:51:16 PM#14

The reason most F2P MMO's are declared 'fail' by the playerbase is because the hardcore - who always lead the way and set the standard in the games, whether they're making youtube vids, running blogs with concrete number-crunching, or running uberguilds - do the math, realize that the company puts out a game where you end up paying more than you would've if it were just $15/month IF you want to play on the high level, and that puts people off when they realize that in order to be a badass and stand out (which lets not kid ourselves, it's what people want to do in these games), they have to open their wallets.

The old-school MMO player wants an MMO where your chance to stand out is a combination of enduring effort in-game AND a roll of the dice, not just "oh, that guy opened his wallet, that's why he has attention". 

It's fine if you are just a casual/social player though and want that kind of gameplay.

The hardcore player of the organized guilds who triumph through their organization in games are done. The money is in catering to casuals, public pickup groups for 8-man dungeons, braindead mechanics that everyone can do (I mean you might as well make it braindead because even if it's complex, it just means the group has to watch the youtube video longer nowadays, right?), on and on.

TL;DR, stop hoping for old-school MMO's where you feel you achieve something and/or lucked out on a drop. Those days are gone. If you want to be badass in the future MMO, you should get a higher paying job.


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8/01/13 4:58:08 PM#15

Did not care then and do not care now.


Blizzard is just a different company now. Before they hit the top, they cared for both quality and profit. Today, they care only about profit - offering zero innovation.


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I actually still like MMORPGs

8/01/13 5:21:48 PM#16
Yeah... Titan is a hoax. Why would they actually bother developing a new game. Do you hear yourself?


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8/01/13 5:25:05 PM#17
Originally posted by PAL-18

Absolutely free without cash shop ?


that's how i'll play it.


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8/01/13 5:26:42 PM#18
Meh......not surprising and I think its pretty obvious we won't be seeing anything on this for many years to come. Even Blizzard has no idea how to top WOW.

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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8/01/13 5:43:08 PM#19

Does not surprise me. At least they got that out of the way early on to avoid any arguments/discussions on what business model they will use near release. You never know, they might still go B2P.


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8/01/13 5:50:01 PM#20
Originally posted by Daaken
Originally posted by jpaprocki
If it's not sub-based then I wont be playing.  Looks like my mmo days are numbered now.   Time to dust off my single player games.

Not to sound condescending but do you even listen to what you type?  Your going to quit a genre because it no longer offers a paid subscription service for a genre which is chalk full of non-subscription services?

I don't see what your objection is, like him I have no desire to play an MMO that isn't sub based or at the very least B2P in the style of GW2. That's my opinion and preference, and you nor anyone else can say I'm in the wrong for having it.

Some of us don't like to engage in psychological warfare with the games we should be playing for entertainment.

Also: obvious, I guess I'm "...unlikely" to play the game then, response.

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