Trending Games | ArcheAge | World of Warcraft | Elder Scrolls Online | Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,923,545 Users Online:0
Games:760  Posts:6,316,820
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Elder Scrolls Online

Elder Scrolls Online 

General Discussion  » Confirmed: No chat bubbles

3 Pages « 1 2 3 » Search
42 posts found
  dauntSilver

Novice Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 148

7/31/13 6:31:49 PM#21
"Staring at the corner of the screen"... I have never had that bother me tbh. In fact, I never find myself "staring".. I know how to read like the vast majority of MMO players..
  lugal

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/13/08
Posts: 602

7/31/13 7:24:23 PM#22
I have no plans on playing this game, even with or without chat bubbles.
Chat bubbles make sense though. They can be activated by a diffent chat command, like /say or similar. Without polluting regular chat.
Maybe they plan something different. Would be nice to see more games have DayZ's chat system. All chat is range dependant. No need to type, voice is integrated. Just have to wait and see, but I think it would work well for RP.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
The reviewer has a mishapen head
Which means his opinion is skewed
...Aldous.MF'n.Huxley

  Iselin

The Listener

Joined: 3/04/08
Posts: 4176

7/31/13 7:25:01 PM#23
Originally posted by Torvaldr

What I would really like to see is voice translation that made the voice fit the race of the character.  So an orc would sound like an orc, troll, ogre, barbarian, fae, froglock, etc.  Technology is getting to the place that could happen.   Another advantage of a system like that would that it filters out background noise.  The character only says words.  No more listening to the dogs bark, the kids scream, or the drunken uncle telling stories in the background.

That would be awesome. Love the idea.

It's like a voice version of the new tech some have been working on that recognizes facial expressions and duplicates them on your character.

  NagelRitter

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/18/13
Posts: 613

7/31/13 7:27:16 PM#24
Tbh, I really do think integrated Voice Chat aka DayZ is the future.

Favorite MMO: Vanilla WoW
Currently playing: GW2, EVE
Excited for: Wildstar, maybe?

  Zzad

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/14/11
Posts: 1329

7/31/13 7:27:37 PM#25
Originally posted by Toxia

Chat bubbles was the deal breaker for you? Incredible xD

You would be surprised to know how may people find that a "deal breaker".

GW2 launched without chat bubbles and had to add it afterwards for the big cry.

When you are standing to another character and you want to talk and you don´t see a chat bubble.... u really miss it.

Not that the game is not going to be a good game because it lacks it....but it will not feel as natural for me.

Oh well.....i guess they will end up implementing it anyway.

  Karteli

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

7/31/13 8:01:40 PM#26

I guess Zenimax is going for the anti-roleplaying, anti-social crowd in their game.  "It's an MMORPG!, but you won't actually interact much, for your safety!"

 

SWTOR had some huge roleplay mechanisms in place, but chat-bubbles hurt that game immensely (along with a horrid graphics engine).

 

I would have thought that devs know by now people like to live inside the game, not outside it.

 

Single player games can be fun, but without sufficient interaction, this game will die like SWTOR did .. or GW2 for that matter, though to a lesser extent.

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  Brabbit1987

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 718

7/31/13 9:51:12 PM#27

Chat bubbles? It's fine with or without.

Honestly though, I imagine the decision was made because it just wouldn't fit well with The Elder Scrolls.

Just as others have said, I can't see why that would be such a big deal to not have them. I realize chat bubbles are an mmo thing, but can you imagine chat bubbles in an Elder scrolls game? They like to keep UI minimal, so it's really no surprise.

Most players who play Elder Scrolls like the minimal UI. How do I know? The modding community. I always see mods being made to make the UI less intrusive. It's rare you see anyone add to it.

  baphamet

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 2668

110100100

8/01/13 10:54:20 AM#28


Originally posted by Iselin

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by DeniZg

Originally posted by Toxia Chat bubbles was the deal breaker for you? Incredible xD I understand your point, though it could be irritating trying to read a long post in a chat bubble only to have it fade away, leaving you looking at the chatbox anyways. Most chatboxes have different channels you can set to it, i dont see this as a real issue honestly.  
I know that my opening post was a bit over dramatic, but I'd rather not play a game where I have to stare at the corner of the screen instead of really playing and communicating with other players. There will be other new and interesting MMO's available on the market at that time, so no big deal actually. Also, if a developer can not implement chat bubbles, you have to ask yourself, are they capable of creating a decent MMORPG? (see Bioware example).
The highlighted is where i get abit confused. For any modern mmo these days, your are moving and pumping buttons so much its quite a task just to stop and chat atall. GW2 being my experience. When i was learning things we just stopped before a boss room or pile of trash mobs and talked about how we'd wanna handle it, then go at it. I rarely had time to stop mid fight and chat. And then there's the whole thing of what if people are behind you and such, out of field of view, etc. Still back to looking at the darn chatbox. But yeah, i do agree, it doesnt seem to be something that would be hard to implement for those that want it. little toggle switch and we're off! Maybe they dont want to put resources towards it. who the fuck knows right?  
It's definitely different in MMOs these days. There is very noticeable lack of chatting--unless you count the annoying "general" channel where people discuss everything but the game. Typed chat of all sorts--bubbles or not--is dying.

Kudos to any MMO developers who recognize that talking is best and they integrate a robust voice chat system into the game. I'm particularly impressed with what SOE (of all people!) have done with Planetside 2. It has multiple chat channels built in: private, squad, platoon, proximity, etc. 

I know some people are still voice shy in MMOs but that's where the technology is heading. I'd be very surprised if this feature is not also built-in EQ Next.


no, i absolutely hate voip in mmo's. its not that i am "voice shy" its the fact that i don't want to hear annoying people i don't know annoying me in my game.

especially annoying little kids. on top of that i listen to music and do other things while playing mmo's, i don't want my experience to be tarnished by a bunch of annoying people running their annoying mouths over my music or the sounds of the game, its for sure an immersion breaker for me, no freaking thanks!

  baphamet

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 2668

110100100

8/01/13 11:02:34 AM#29


Originally posted by Karteli
I guess Zenimax is going for the anti-roleplaying, anti-social crowd in their game.  "It's an MMORPG!, but you won't actually interact much, for your safety!"

 

SWTOR had some huge roleplay mechanisms in place, but chat-bubbles hurt that game immensely (along with a horrid graphics engine).

 

I would have thought that devs know by now people like to live inside the game, not outside it.

 

Single player games can be fun, but without sufficient interaction, this game will die like SWTOR did .. or GW2 for that matter, though to a lesser extent.


i wasn't aware that GW2 and swtor "died"? or do you mean dead to you? lol chat bubbles and a laggy engine is not what drove the masses away from swtor, if you believe that then you are pretty disconnected with what most mmo gamers want.

people were loving that game for the first month or two, some how the "horrible" engine and chat bubbles didn't seem to bother them then, how come?

  keithian

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 3041

8/01/13 2:22:50 PM#30
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by Iselin

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by DeniZg

Originally posted by Toxia Chat bubbles was the deal breaker for you? Incredible xD I understand your point, though it could be irritating trying to read a long post in a chat bubble only to have it fade away, leaving you looking at the chatbox anyways. Most chatboxes have different channels you can set to it, i dont see this as a real issue honestly.  
I know that my opening post was a bit over dramatic, but I'd rather not play a game where I have to stare at the corner of the screen instead of really playing and communicating with other players. There will be other new and interesting MMO's available on the market at that time, so no big deal actually. Also, if a developer can not implement chat bubbles, you have to ask yourself, are they capable of creating a decent MMORPG? (see Bioware example).
The highlighted is where i get abit confused. For any modern mmo these days, your are moving and pumping buttons so much its quite a task just to stop and chat atall. GW2 being my experience. When i was learning things we just stopped before a boss room or pile of trash mobs and talked about how we'd wanna handle it, then go at it. I rarely had time to stop mid fight and chat. And then there's the whole thing of what if people are behind you and such, out of field of view, etc. Still back to looking at the darn chatbox. But yeah, i do agree, it doesnt seem to be something that would be hard to implement for those that want it. little toggle switch and we're off! Maybe they dont want to put resources towards it. who the fuck knows right?  
It's definitely different in MMOs these days. There is very noticeable lack of chatting--unless you count the annoying "general" channel where people discuss everything but the game. Typed chat of all sorts--bubbles or not--is dying.

 

Kudos to any MMO developers who recognize that talking is best and they integrate a robust voice chat system into the game. I'm particularly impressed with what SOE (of all people!) have done with Planetside 2. It has multiple chat channels built in: private, squad, platoon, proximity, etc. 

I know some people are still voice shy in MMOs but that's where the technology is heading. I'd be very surprised if this feature is not also built-in EQ Next.


 

no, i absolutely hate voip in mmo's. its not that i am "voice shy" its the fact that i don't want to hear annoying people i don't know annoying me in my game.

especially annoying little kids. on top of that i listen to music and do other things while playing mmo's, i don't want my experience to be tarnished by a bunch of annoying people running their annoying mouths over my music or the sounds of the game, its for sure an immersion breaker for me, no freaking thanks!

I kind of agree with you. When I was playing GW2, I was enjoying the chat, but at the same time sometimes I had to disconnect my voice because I was missing the music and sound effects which I like to blast and it does break the immersion for me as well a bit. Especially when on one persons mic, they sound soft and then another persons is super loud. Its hard to find a good volume balance with their voices while balancing the sound effects of the game lol.

There Is Always Hope!

  baphamet

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 2668

110100100

8/01/13 3:58:22 PM#31


Originally posted by keithian

Originally posted by baphamet  

Originally posted by Iselin

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by DeniZg

Originally posted by Toxia Chat bubbles was the deal breaker for you? Incredible xD I understand your point, though it could be irritating trying to read a long post in a chat bubble only to have it fade away, leaving you looking at the chatbox anyways. Most chatboxes have different channels you can set to it, i dont see this as a real issue honestly.  
I know that my opening post was a bit over dramatic, but I'd rather not play a game where I have to stare at the corner of the screen instead of really playing and communicating with other players. There will be other new and interesting MMO's available on the market at that time, so no big deal actually. Also, if a developer can not implement chat bubbles, you have to ask yourself, are they capable of creating a decent MMORPG? (see Bioware example).
The highlighted is where i get abit confused. For any modern mmo these days, your are moving and pumping buttons so much its quite a task just to stop and chat atall. GW2 being my experience. When i was learning things we just stopped before a boss room or pile of trash mobs and talked about how we'd wanna handle it, then go at it. I rarely had time to stop mid fight and chat. And then there's the whole thing of what if people are behind you and such, out of field of view, etc. Still back to looking at the darn chatbox. But yeah, i do agree, it doesnt seem to be something that would be hard to implement for those that want it. little toggle switch and we're off! Maybe they dont want to put resources towards it. who the fuck knows right?  
It's definitely different in MMOs these days. There is very noticeable lack of chatting--unless you count the annoying "general" channel where people discuss everything but the game. Typed chat of all sorts--bubbles or not--is dying.   Kudos to any MMO developers who recognize that talking is best and they integrate a robust voice chat system into the game. I'm particularly impressed with what SOE (of all people!) have done with Planetside 2. It has multiple chat channels built in: private, squad, platoon, proximity, etc.  I know some people are still voice shy in MMOs but that's where the technology is heading. I'd be very surprised if this feature is not also built-in EQ Next.
  no, i absolutely hate voip in mmo's. its not that i am "voice shy" its the fact that i don't want to hear annoying people i don't know annoying me in my game. especially annoying little kids. on top of that i listen to music and do other things while playing mmo's, i don't want my experience to be tarnished by a bunch of annoying people running their annoying mouths over my music or the sounds of the game, its for sure an immersion breaker for me, no freaking thanks!
I kind of agree with you. When I was playing GW2, I was enjoying the chat, but at the same time sometimes I had to disconnect my voice because I was missing the music and sound effects which I like to blast and it does break the immersion for me as well a bit. Especially when on one persons mic, they sound soft and then another persons is super loud. Its hard to find a good volume balance with their voices while balancing the sound effects of the game lol.

as long as its optional i don't have a problem with it. once a game makes it mandatory then that is a game i will pass on.

which i don't think will ever happen anyways.

  remyburke

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/03/04
Posts: 3054

I liked MMOs better when gamers didn't play them, and just geeks did.

8/01/13 4:00:25 PM#32
Zenimax says the word "no" more than any other developer I've ever seen in my 15 years of following this genre. It's impressive.

MMORPG.com member: 10th Year Anniversary. Where has the time gone...?


Played: AA, AC1, AC2, Aion, AO, AoC, CO, CoX, DAoC, DCUO, DN, EVE, EQ1, EQ2,
ESO, FE, FFXI, FFXIV, FF, GW1, GW2, Istaria, L2, LoTRO, MO, MxO, NW, Rift, RoE,
Ryzom, SB, SWG, SWTOR, TERA, TSW, WAR, WoW, WURM...

  Icewhite

Made History

Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

8/01/13 4:06:28 PM#33
Originally posted by DeniZg

I know that my opening post was a bit over dramatic.

It's ok, all "immersion" threads are. Nature of the hyperbolic beast.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Iselin

The Listener

Joined: 3/04/08
Posts: 4176

8/01/13 5:18:36 PM#34
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by keithian

Originally posted by baphamet  

Originally posted by Iselin

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by DeniZg

Originally posted by Toxia Chat bubbles was the deal breaker for you? Incredible xD I understand your point, though it could be irritating trying to read a long post in a chat bubble only to have it fade away, leaving you looking at the chatbox anyways. Most chatboxes have different channels you can set to it, i dont see this as a real issue honestly.  
I know that my opening post was a bit over dramatic, but I'd rather not play a game where I have to stare at the corner of the screen instead of really playing and communicating with other players. There will be other new and interesting MMO's available on the market at that time, so no big deal actually. Also, if a developer can not implement chat bubbles, you have to ask yourself, are they capable of creating a decent MMORPG? (see Bioware example).
The highlighted is where i get abit confused. For any modern mmo these days, your are moving and pumping buttons so much its quite a task just to stop and chat atall. GW2 being my experience. When i was learning things we just stopped before a boss room or pile of trash mobs and talked about how we'd wanna handle it, then go at it. I rarely had time to stop mid fight and chat. And then there's the whole thing of what if people are behind you and such, out of field of view, etc. Still back to looking at the darn chatbox. But yeah, i do agree, it doesnt seem to be something that would be hard to implement for those that want it. little toggle switch and we're off! Maybe they dont want to put resources towards it. who the fuck knows right?  
It's definitely different in MMOs these days. There is very noticeable lack of chatting--unless you count the annoying "general" channel where people discuss everything but the game. Typed chat of all sorts--bubbles or not--is dying.   Kudos to any MMO developers who recognize that talking is best and they integrate a robust voice chat system into the game. I'm particularly impressed with what SOE (of all people!) have done with Planetside 2. It has multiple chat channels built in: private, squad, platoon, proximity, etc.  I know some people are still voice shy in MMOs but that's where the technology is heading. I'd be very surprised if this feature is not also built-in EQ Next.
  no, i absolutely hate voip in mmo's. its not that i am "voice shy" its the fact that i don't want to hear annoying people i don't know annoying me in my game. especially annoying little kids. on top of that i listen to music and do other things while playing mmo's, i don't want my experience to be tarnished by a bunch of annoying people running their annoying mouths over my music or the sounds of the game, its for sure an immersion breaker for me, no freaking thanks!
I kind of agree with you. When I was playing GW2, I was enjoying the chat, but at the same time sometimes I had to disconnect my voice because I was missing the music and sound effects which I like to blast and it does break the immersion for me as well a bit. Especially when on one persons mic, they sound soft and then another persons is super loud. Its hard to find a good volume balance with their voices while balancing the sound effects of the game lol.

 

as long as its optional i don't have a problem with it. once a game makes it mandatory then that is a game i will pass on.

which i don't think will ever happen anyways.

Luddites! 

J/K... I do know what you mean about the annoyance factor. But I've also had great experiences with it besides the obvious advantage of easier coordination.

I used to be in a good RP/PVP guild in WOW and we had a couple of people that excelled at voice RP...one, who had a great voice, even composed a couple of game-appropriate songs that he sang every now and then.

It's like everything else, it can be done well or it can suck.

  Valgar1

Novice Member

Joined: 8/25/07
Posts: 333

8/01/13 5:28:26 PM#35

I mean am i taking crazy pills!!??  We are really talking no chat bubbles!!! Guy wont play because a game dont have chat bubbles!!  I thought this was a joke until it got 4 pages of posts. 

I for one can not stand chat bubbles,its the first thing i turn off. Its like reading a comic book.

Next up lets have somone not play because apples in an apple tree only come in red .......

  ElRenmazuo

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/28/06
Posts: 4321

8/01/13 5:33:05 PM#36
I hate chat bubbles, they are really annoying in crowded areas.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/262c40940b3181ade1001120dd379aaa/tumblr_nfrzn853rR1rz64nto6_r1_400.gif

  observer

Elite Member

Joined: 2/17/05
Posts: 2366

First came pride, then envy.

8/01/13 6:52:15 PM#37

This says a lot about Zenimax.

Did they not learn from other MMOs (most notably from Swtor)?  Is it amateur hour over there?

There's a reason people love chat bubbles.  It's because it makes it easier for communication.

Why not just give players the option?  As from this thread, it seems like people would use them, and people would not use them. 

  keithian

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 3041

8/01/13 7:21:11 PM#38
Originally posted by observer

This says a lot about Zenimax.

Did they not learn from other MMOs (most notably from Swtor)?  Is it amateur hour over there?

There's a reason people love chat bubbles.  It's because it makes it easier for communication.

Why not just give players the option?  As from this thread, it seems like people would use them, and people would not use them. 

Could you be any more dramatic with regard to associating a single feature with a company? Why is it that in my 11 years of MMO playing, not ONCE did a group member every say, I'm having trouble communcating because there are no chat bubbles. Some of you really need to grow some perspective. Do I think they should have it as an option, yes. Do I feel this somehow makes them into an evil company that doesn't listen or learn, no. If they were they wouldn't have learned from the more important features like first person view which they implemented when they originally weren't. Thats a lot more important to the average Elder Scrolls fan than a chat bubble lol.

There Is Always Hope!

  observer

Elite Member

Joined: 2/17/05
Posts: 2366

First came pride, then envy.

8/01/13 11:50:48 PM#39
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by observer

This says a lot about Zenimax.

Did they not learn from other MMOs (most notably from Swtor)?  Is it amateur hour over there?

There's a reason people love chat bubbles.  It's because it makes it easier for communication.

Why not just give players the option?  As from this thread, it seems like people would use them, and people would not use them. 

Could you be any more dramatic with regard to associating a single feature with a company? Why is it that in my 11 years of MMO playing, not ONCE did a group member every say, I'm having trouble communcating because there are no chat bubbles. Some of you really need to grow some perspective. Do I think they should have it as an option, yes. Do I feel this somehow makes them into an evil company that doesn't listen or learn, no. If they were they wouldn't have learned from the more important features like first person view which they implemented when they originally weren't. Thats a lot more important to the average Elder Scrolls fan than a chat bubble lol.

It's not being dramatic at all.  It's common sense.  Having chat bubbles is a standard feature in just about every MMO on the market.  Before swtor released, many people brought up this issue, and here we are over a year now, and swtor still doesn't have them.  I'm starting to believe their devs/programmers aren't competent enough to implement them in that MMO.  Another example is GW2.  The devs over there decided to leave out first-person view, because of some silly reason about how they wanted players to view art in their game.  I mean seriously?  This is why i question developers on their moronic decisions such as this one, hence the amateur remark.  It's well justified.

Granted, i'll give Zenimax some slack, since this is their first MMO (i think), but it's obvious that this is a design decision from the top, and i'm pretty sure that they want the Elder Scrolls franchise to feel like elder scrolls, hence the reason for leaving out chat bubbles; however, this is an MMO we are talking about, and not a single-player RPG.  Communication is key in MMOs, especially for pvp.  I, and others, believe this is a wrong decision, because we know from past experience that simple things such as chat bubbles, actually enhances the MMO.  The only option for Zenimax is to give the players an option to toggle it on or off.

It's not a deal-breaker for me, but i'm not going to shrug it off like some zealous fanboy, who think every decision Zenimax makes, is perfectly fine.

  Brabbit1987

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 718

8/02/13 12:01:38 AM#40
Originally posted by observer
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by observer

This says a lot about Zenimax.

Did they not learn from other MMOs (most notably from Swtor)?  Is it amateur hour over there?

There's a reason people love chat bubbles.  It's because it makes it easier for communication.

Why not just give players the option?  As from this thread, it seems like people would use them, and people would not use them. 

Could you be any more dramatic with regard to associating a single feature with a company? Why is it that in my 11 years of MMO playing, not ONCE did a group member every say, I'm having trouble communcating because there are no chat bubbles. Some of you really need to grow some perspective. Do I think they should have it as an option, yes. Do I feel this somehow makes them into an evil company that doesn't listen or learn, no. If they were they wouldn't have learned from the more important features like first person view which they implemented when they originally weren't. Thats a lot more important to the average Elder Scrolls fan than a chat bubble lol.

It's not being dramatic at all.  It's common sense.  Having chat bubbles is a standard feature in just about every MMO on the market.  Before swtor released, many people brought up this issue, and here we are over a year now, and swtor still doesn't have them.  I'm starting to believe their devs/programmers aren't competent enough to implement them in that MMO.  Another example is GW2.  The devs over there decided to leave out first-person view, because of some silly reason about how they wanted players to view art in their game.  I mean seriously?  This is why i question developers on their moronic decisions such as this one, hence the amateur remark.  It's well justified.

Granted, i'll give Zenimax some slack, since this is their first MMO (i think), but it's obvious that this is a design decision from the top, and i'm pretty sure that they want the Elder Scrolls franchise to feel like elder scrolls, hence the reason for leaving out chat bubbles; however, this is an MMO we are talking about, and not a single-player RPG.  Communication is key in MMOs, especially for pvp.  I, and others, believe this is a wrong decision, because we know from past experience that simple things such as chat bubbles, actually enhances the MMO.  The only option for Zenimax is to give the players an option to toggle it on or off.

It's not a deal-breaker for me, but i'm not going to shrug it off like some zealous fanboy, who think every decision Zenimax makes, is perfectly fine.

In all honesty, I think you are over reacting to this feature. If you really have an issue with devs with their game and their decision, go play a different game or go make your own.

I mean, the way you are acting is as if you can't live with out such a simple feature.

Also, keep in mind, this isn't just an MMO, this is an Elder Scrolls game and they have said it 100s of times before. Communication is key? What the heck does chat bubbles have anything to do with that? What? You have issues with slightly glancing at a box? Really!? It's that much of an issue?

Also, did you forget about UI mods? It might not be chat bubbles, but you might be able to come up with something to make it more comfortable for yourself.

3 Pages « 1 2 3 » Search